Alterslash

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Contents

  1. Justice Department Approves Paramount’s $111 Billion Acquisition of Warner Bros.
  2. ShinyHunters Hacked 100+ Organizations By Exploiting an Oracle PeopleSoft 0-Day
  3. Google Sues Chinese Cybercrime Operation That Used Gemini AI To Send Scam Texts
  4. Touchscreen Macbook ‘100% Confirmed,’ Says Reputable Leaker
  5. Microsoft Surface Flaw Allowed Unprotected Devices To Be Bricked By a Single Packet
  6. Sam Bankman-Fried Loses Bid To Overturn Crypto Fraud Conviction
  7. Infineon to Open German Chip Fab as Part of EU Sovereignty Push
  8. SpaceX IPO Makes Elon Musk World’s First Trillionaire
  9. Pokemon Go Data Was Used To Help Train AI Systems Being Developed For Military Drones
  10. An Algorithm Determines How Fast You Should Drive On California’s I-15 Freeway
  11. China Lures Foreign Patients With Cutting-Edge, Cheap Medical Care
  12. Study Links Smartphones With Declining Fertility Rates
  13. Poland To Jail Online Streamers of Violent Crime For Up To 5 Years
  14. Coinbase Launches Tool To Let AI Agents Manage Trading and Payments
  15. Euro-Office 1.0 Arrives To Open-Source Infighting: ‘Compatibility Is Not Sovereignty’

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Justice Department Approves Paramount’s $111 Billion Acquisition of Warner Bros.

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The Justice Department has approved Paramount Skydance’s $111 billion acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery without requiring divestitures or other concessions. The deal still faces scrutiny from state attorneys general. Politico reports:
The decision, expected to be announced Friday, paves the way for Paramount to combine with the entertainment and media company behind a vast film and television studio, CNN, and the HBO Max streaming service, which would be combined with Paramount+ to create a new offering boasting about 200 million subscribers. The deal, which would upend the Hollywood ecosystem by combining two historic rival studios, is opposed by many in the entertainment industry who fear it could lead to mass layoffs, among other concerns.

After an extensive review, DOJ officials determined the transaction did not pose a threat to competition and declined to challenge it, said the people, who were granted anonymity to discuss sensitive matters. The department approved the merger without requiring any divestitures, behavioral remedies or concessions, according to one of the people. […] The DOJ’s approval does not end the merger’s legal scrutiny. California Attorney General Rob Bonta has been reviewing the transaction and could still sue to block the deal despite federal regulators signing off. A spokesperson for Bonta’s office told POLITICO earlier this week “the Paramount acquisition of Warner Brothers remains an active investigation.”

[…] Throughout those discussions, Paramount maintained that the merger would strengthen competition rather than diminish it, creating a media company better positioned to compete with streaming leaders and deep-pocketed technology rivals, according to people familiar with the matter. Hollywood workers fear the merger could trigger another wave of layoffs in an industry already reeling from years of consolidation. Critics argue that billions in promised cost savings will come at the expense of jobs, fewer opportunities for creators and greater concentration of power across film, television and streaming.

ShinyHunters Hacked 100+ Organizations By Exploiting an Oracle PeopleSoft 0-Day

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ShinyHunters claims it exploited a critical Oracle PeopleSoft zero-day to compromise more than 100 organizations, including the University of Nottingham, where it says it stole 40GB of student and billing data. “ShinyHunters posted the UK university on its data leak site on Tuesday before publishing the stolen files later that same day, presumably because the school refused to pay the extortion demand,” reports The Register. From the report:
“University of Nottingham on our leak site is one of the first publicly confirmed incidents,” a ShinyHunters spokesperson told us. “We have only just started outreach to affected orgs and are actively looking to reach an agreement with affected orgs.” They didn’t say when they planned to post the other 100 or so claimed victims.

A Google threat intelligence report published Thursday afternoon corroborated ShinyHunters’ claims to have compromised more than 100 organizations. Google said it spotted malicious activity, “consistent with the exploitation of CVE-2026-35273,” between May 27 and June 9, and notified more than 100 global orgs “whose IP addresses correlated with potentially vulnerable endpoints.” Most of these, we’re told, are based in the US and 68 percent are in the higher-education sector.
Oracle has released a “patch availability document,” but it’s unclear whether a patch is currently available.

Google Sues Chinese Cybercrime Operation That Used Gemini AI To Send Scam Texts

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch:
Google is suing to dismantle the infrastructure behind an alleged massive AI-powered cybercrime operation. On Friday, the tech giant announced a lawsuit against an alleged Chinese cybercrime network called Outsider Enterprise, which Google says uses AI in its campaigns to send scam text messages impersonating Google and other brands to steal passwords and credit card numbers.

Outsider Enterprise has financially scammed “hundreds of thousands of victims” with losses “estimated in the millions.” The group deployed 9,000 fake websites, 1 million fraudulent web domains, and 2.5 million texts sent to Android users in a two-week period, according to Google. “55,000 spam texts were flagged by Android users in just two weeks this past May — that’s more than two text spam complaints a minute,” Google said.

Google said it uses “AI-powered tools to fight AI-powered scams”, which enable the company to detect scams and alert users of suspicious calls and text messages, leading to the interception of more than 10 billion scam messages a month. The company said it has been collaborating with AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon to block the scam text messages and said it is coordinating with the FBI, which is taking unspecified law enforcement actions.

Touchscreen Macbook ‘100% Confirmed,’ Says Reputable Leaker

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A leaker with a strong Apple rumor track record says a touchscreen MacBook is “100% confirmed. If true, it would mark a major reversal for Apple, which has long argued that the Mac is built for indirect input rather than reaching up to touch a vertical screen. MacRumors reports:
Instant Digital has a good track record for Apple rumors and has provided some strikingly accurate information in the past, so it’s always worth noting what they have to say about Apple’s plans. The claim is also backed by several recent reports. […] Touchscreen support is expected to be one of several major upgrades coming to Apple’s next-generation high-end MacBook Pro models. Other rumored features include M6 Pro and M6 Max chips, an OLED display, a Dynamic Island (i.e., no notch), and a thinner design. The new laptops could also adopt MacBook Ultra branding.

Notably, macOS 27 Golden Gate also introduces a more touch-friendly interface, since Apple’s Sidecar feature now allows users to tap and interact with macOS interface elements using a finger on their iPad. Apple apparently is not going to advertise the new MacBook Pro/Ultra as a touch-first device like the iPad — it will be “touch-friendly, not touch-first,” according to [Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman]. In that sense, Apple will let customers use touch and mouse gestures interchangeably for all functions.
Further reading: Steve Jobs Was Wrong About Touchscreen Laptops (2012)

Re:Question ?

By dargaud • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Because it makes your screen all dirty and gives you gorilla arms. Any other stupid questions ? PS: I’ve been known to punch colleagues who touch my screen after I told them not to.

Re:Question ?

By dfghjk • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Because it makes the device both worse and more expensive?

Re:Question ?

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Because it makes your screen all dirty and gives you gorilla arms. Any other stupid questions ? PS: I’ve been known to punch colleagues who touch my screen after I told them not to.

Those punches would be more effective if you had gorilla arms. Just sayin’. :-)

Microsoft Surface Flaw Allowed Unprotected Devices To Be Bricked By a Single Packet

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Longtime Slashdot reader Dotnaught shares a report from The Register:
For the past 90 days, Microsoft has been quietly patching a firmware flaw in Surface devices that allowed the hardware to be bricked with a single packet, though only for those who have disabled Secure Core and Secure Boot. And the company’s Copilot AI software inadvertently helped identify the faulty firmware.

According to Jack Darcy, a security researcher based in Australia, his instance of Microsoft Copilot stumbled across the bug after being asked to adjust the screen backlighting on a Surface device. The Copilot-conjured Python script ended up rendering the researcher’s laptop inoperable by overwriting the embedded controller firmware. “Copilot autonomously created and executed four progressively aggressive Python scripts during a probe for backlight control values that sent raw SSAM ioctl commands (SSAM_CDEV_REQUEST = 0xC028A501) directly to the SAM microcontroller through the SAM software path,” Darcy explained to The Register.

[…] “We appreciate the work of Jack Darcy and The Register for reporting this issue under a coordinated vulnerability disclosure,” a Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement. “Our investigation found that a deprecated UEFI interface could trigger a boot loop on some devices. To trigger this loop, the user must have administrator privileges and have already disabled the Secure Boot security feature. We have released updates to address the issue for most impacted devices.”

That means managed devices are not at risk. But those using Linux, or Windows users who have disabled Secure Core and Secure Boot for gaming, or who use custom Windows drivers, or who have USB boot enabled, may still be vulnerable if their systems haven’t received the update. We’re uncertain about the range of Surface devices affected. Our source said it appears to be all of them (Surface Laptops 3-6, Surface Book 1-3) except for Surface Go models. ARM variants, however, have not been tested.
The report notes that Microsoft is planning to move the Surface stack to a more secure architecture based on Rust code.
“Our most recent Surface for Business hardware features a major architectural shift in terms of improved reliability and security that spans our embedded controller, UEFI, but also some of our drivers,” said David Abzarian, chief architect for Microsoft Surface. “We’re investing in the most secure foundation for a PC by building our embedded controller firmware from the ground up in Rust (as part of leveraging and contributing to the Open Device Partnership (ODP)) in addition to a rewrite of the UEFI DXE Core in Rust; these projects are known as Secure EC and Project Patina respectively.”

“We’re also not only shipping some of our drivers written in Rust, but also helping co-develop the framework Windows Drivers in Rust (WDR) to help enable a broad set of partners in the Windows ecosystem to capitalize on these benefits. I will also note that all of these efforts are open-source promoting one of our key security principles around transparency.”

Amazing…

By Junta • Score: 3 Thread

In a sane world, you might expect the Windows ‘integrated’ AI to be wired up to just… adjust the brightness..

But *fine*, you don’t wire it up, you might then at least hope the AI to say “That capability is not enabled, but here is some help text telling you to do it”.

But nope, “That sounds like something an ioctl would do, and I don’t know the ioctl per se, but let’s just submit random bullshit ioctls and *maybe* it will happen to do as user requested?”

Killer Poke

By jpatters • Score: 5, Funny Thread

POKE 59458,62

Re:Amazing…

By omnichad • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Just for fun, I asked Gemini and it says:

To adjust the screen brightness on a Microsoft Surface (or any Windows laptop), you can use the WMI API (Windows Management Instrumentation) with WmiMonitorBrightnessMethods or the UWP BrightnessOverride class.

So yeah, it’s wild how these LLMs lose the plot and just start bashing square pegs into round holes.

Sam Bankman-Fried Loses Bid To Overturn Crypto Fraud Conviction

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Sam Bankman-Fried lost his appeal to overturn his FTX fraud conviction and 25-year sentence. Reuters reports:
In a unanimous decision, a three-judge panel of the Manhattan-based 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said prosecutors’ evidence against Bankman-Fried “was, conservatively stated, robust.” “While he was publicly reassuring customers, investors and regulators that FTX customer funds were safe, he was simultaneously using FTX as his own personal piggy bank, spending customer funds on real estate, political contributions, and investments,” Circuit Judge Barrington Parker wrote on behalf of the panel.

Bankman-Fried’s lawyers did not immediately respond to a request for comment. They may next ask all the active judges on the 2nd Circuit to hear the case, or ask the U.S. Supreme Court to take up the case. Bankman-Fried is also seeking a pardon from President Donald Trump, according to the Justice Department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney.
Bankman-Fried was sentenced to 25 years in prison in 2024 for “masterminding one of the largest financial frauds in American history,” wrote US District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He was convicted on all charges, including wire fraud, conspiracy to commit securities fraud, commodities fraud, and money laundering.

It’s All Over Except for the Crying

By dbialac • Score: 3 Thread
Well, he’s likely at this point out of options. If you get a unanimous ruling at the first appeals level, the higher appeals court generally won’t take the case.

Bribes

By angryman77 • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Just bribe Trump. It’s been shown to work many times already.

effective altruism

By awwshit • Score: 3 Thread

Guess it was not so effective.

If he can scrape up enough for a bribe…

By haruchai • Score: 3 Thread

then Trump will pardon him on the way out. Might do for Ghislaine too

Re:Bribes

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Pardons are set at $1 million. https://www.congress.gov/119/m…

Infineon to Open German Chip Fab as Part of EU Sovereignty Push

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Infineon is set to open a $5.8 billion power-chip fab in Dresden on July 2, backed by about $1.1 billion in EU Chips Act subsidies. The plant will make power semiconductors for AI data centers and could eventually add up to $5.8 billion in annual revenue as demand for AI infrastructure strains global electricity systems. Bloomberg reports:
Infineon, traditionally a chipmaker for the automotive industry, has increasingly benefited from soaring demand for power chips used in AI data centers, which will be produced at the new facility. “The AI data centers currently being built and planned around the world will consume twice as much electricity in 2030 as they do today,” [said Chief Operating Officer Alexander Gorski]. “That’s as much as the entire Federal Republic of Germany.”

Chip production at the Dresden fab will be scaled over time depending on demand, potentially adding as much as 5 billion euros in revenue per year, Gorski said, declining to comment on when full capacity will be reached. The company has invested around 2 billion euros on construction and the remaining amount will be spent over time to add more machines to the fab, he added.

The new facility is “a key catalyst,” Bank of America analysts including Didier Scemama wrote in a note last week. Demand from Al customers is materially above Infineon’s current capacity, they said, adding the imbalance could improve in the 2027 and 2028 financial years. The analysts raised their Al power revenue forecast for the company by 500 million euros to 4.5 billion euros for 2028.

Infineon expects data center-related revenue to rise from around 1.5 billion euros in fiscal 2026 — roughly 10% of sales — to 2.5 billion euros in 2027, it said last month. The hundreds of billions of dollars being invested in AI are driving the rapid expansion of data center capabilities around the world. Infineon doesn’t produce advanced AI chips, like those designed by Nvidia. But the power semiconductors it plans to produce in Dresden are still needed for AI infrastructure.

SpaceX IPO Makes Elon Musk World’s First Trillionaire

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters:
Few business leaders have been as deeply embedded in popular culture as Elon Musk, the ambitious entrepreneur who has become a central figure in internet culture and amassed a fortune that has made him the world’s first trillionaire. At a time when concerns about inequality are high and public attitudes toward the ultra-wealthy have soured, Musk has managed to retain a loyal following despite his stratospheric net worth and without the folksy persona that endeared other tycoons such as Warren Buffett to the masses.

While admirers view Musk’s no-filter style as part of his appeal, critics have accused him of wielding oligarch-like power, raised concerns about governance at his companies and objected to his increasingly partisan political interventions. Still, SpaceX, the sprawling rocket, satellite and AI company that together with electric-car maker Tesla form the center of Musk’s empire, raised a record $75 billion in its initial public offering on Thursday, highlighting investor enthusiasm for his business ventures. Prior to the share sale, Forbes pegged his net worth at roughly $780 billion, far ahead of the man next in line, Alphabet co-founder Larry Page.

“The second richest person has been hovering around $300 billion, so about less than one-third of what Musk can potentially be worth tomorrow,” said Matt Durot, deputy editor at Forbes Wealth. “And only one other person, (Oracle founder) Larry Ellison, has ever been worth $400 billion.” Most of Musk’s wealth now rests with SpaceX, where he holds a stake worth roughly $866 billion. Along with Tesla and the rest of his properties, his net worth will exceed $1.1 trillion when the stock begins trading Friday, according to Forbes and Reuters calculations based on company filings.

Re:Congrats to Mr. Musk

By Whateverthisis • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Actually, he can’t.

The mystique of his companies is that Elon Musk alone is capable of driving the value. People used to think he could walk on water, and despite his own self-inflicted harm to his personal brand with his ill advised foray into politics, they still think he can drive success. The entire value of his shares is based heavily on him being CEO. If he were to walk away, they would tank.

On top of that, as major insider, the SEC would not allow him to sell his shares without notifying the markets of his intention to do so weeks in advance. That gives the markets time to react not just to his departure, but him dumping his shares would dramatically increase the supply of those shares at the same time as lowering the perceived value of those companies with his intended departure. The stock price would crater before he could liquidate them, so he wouldn’t end up with nearly the amount of cash with this.

On top of all of that, and this is in the filings, roughly 90% of his stock which is tied up in this trillion dollar valuation is restricted or unvested, based on hitting certain performance objectives. If he walked away tomorrow, roughly 90% of his stock, which is illiquid, he’d forfeit back to the company as they haven’t vested yet. For example, much of his SpaceX stock is tied to:

1) Mars colonization - the establishment of a permanent human settlement on Mars with 1 million inhabitants

2) Space compute - the operation of non-Earth based data centeres providing at least 100 terawatts of annual compute capacity

3) Market Capitalization - that SpaceX reaches a series of corporate value milestones (there are 15 total, some vest at each tranche). the first corporate valuation goal is $7.5 trillion, and they all go up from there.

So it’s also a bit of a misnomer for him to be “worth $1 trillion” when 90% of it is tied to goals that are unachievable like a 1 million-inhabitant colony on Mars or building 100 terawatts of computing power in space when it’s not clear if the AI market even needs that and that Grok’s services are lagging behind Anthropic and OpenAI (hence why he is leasing his data center capacity to Anthropic, Grok’s usage is too low and he needs to pay for that infrastructure). What is notable though is that while they have not vested, Musk does have voting rights for those shares.

Now do you see the game he’s playing? He can vote on the company objectives with his Class B shares, which similar to Zuckerberg’s shares have 10 votes for every 1 of normal shares. So despite not directly owning those shares and they may not vest at all, it gives Musk 82-85% of the shares’ voting power to nominate Board members and control the company. Even if he fails to achieve those, he effectively controls it no matter what, which is what this is all about. The broader question though is will the public markets take him at his word. The public markets are much more brutal about what CEOs say, and he runs his mouth in ways that already got him in trouble once with the SEC. Given the size of SpaceX now, he’s a significant part of the major indices; the SEC will crack on him even harder if his drug fueled X-posting moves the stock in the wrong way and affects the broader market indices.

Re:It’s not really greed at that point

By dskoll • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

This is why there needs to be a 98% wealth tax on assets over $100M and 99.9% on assets over $250M. No individual human needs more than $100M in wealth.

Of course, to be fair to the poor oligarchs, we can index the thresholds to inflation.

Re:What will he do with that money?

By cpurdy • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Purchase the government of the United States

He already did that, in 2024, for only $277 million. As a reward, he was given control over what parts of the government to kill, and he killed off all the parts that were investigating the crimes committed by his businesses.

Re: Congrats to Mr. Musk

By ceoyoyo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The problem is not paper wealth. It’s connecting wealth to power. Elon Musk donated more than a quarter of a billion dollars to support Trump’s campaign and is spending a bunch on the US midterms too.

Modern democracies have strict political donation limits because they recognize this problem. In the US the limit is $3300 per candidate per election, with total annual caps, and a ban on corporate donations. BUT, there are lots of clever workarounds that nobody involved cares about closing.

Re:Congrats to Mr. Musk

By WolfgangVL • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

LOL

It’s crazy how the righties are still on with their shit while we watch their leaders completely abandon everything they’re supposed to stand for and literally turn the peoples house into a gd circus.

In backwards upside down world we all love inflation, Clean coal, and $100 tanks of gas.

At what point do you guys realize you’ve been fooled? Minting a trillionaire while you pay $500 for groceries and subsidize your local datacenter with your energy bill still aint enough?

Maybe the next dumbass foreign war of choice will finally push them over the edge?

Pokemon Go Data Was Used To Help Train AI Systems Being Developed For Military Drones

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Pokemon Go players’ optional location scans reportedly helped train Niantic Spatial’s visual positioning system, which uses camera imagery and 3D maps to navigate when GPS is unavailable or jammed. According to DroneXL, that technology is now being paired with Vantor’s drone navigation software for military and intelligence use, raising questions about whether gamers understood that footage collected for in-game rewards could eventually support defense systems. From the report:
The pipeline runs from a mobile game to the battlefield in three steps. Players scanned the physical world. Niantic Spatial turned those scans into a 3D map that lets a machine locate itself by sight when satellite signals fail. And in December 2025, Niantic Spatial announced a partnership with Vantor, the defense and intelligence firm formerly known as Maxar Intelligence, to fuse that ground-level system with Vantor’s aerial navigation software for use in GPS-denied operations.

I have spent years covering how drones lose their way the moment an electronic warfare unit switches on a jammer, a problem that has spread from the battlefield into civilian airspace, from Ukrainian workshops cycling through navigation generations to American programs scrambling for alternatives. The unsettling part of this story is not the technology. It is where the training data came from, and whether the people who supplied it would have agreed had anyone explained the destination.
“Now as part of Scopely (the Saudi-owned company that acquired Niantic last year for $3.5 billion), Pokemon GO data is not shared with Niantic Spatial,” a company spokesperson said in a statement to Kotaku. “AR Scans collected through Pokemon GO were submitted voluntarily by players who opted into the feature and were subject to the applicable Terms of Service and Privacy Policy at the time. The discontinuation of AR scanning and the end of data sharing with Niantic Spatial were part of the transition planning associated with Pokemon GO’s move to Scopely.”

Terrain following navigation tech predates GPS

By drnb • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Using the Pokemon data is a pretty interesting repurposing of the data. However terrain following navigation technology has been around longer than GPS, Developed in the 1950s/60s, operational in the 1970s. The uniqueness here is a new way to generate a 3D terrain map.

Quite clever, really.

By devslash0 • Score: 5, Funny Thread

- “I’m sorry, general, we have no visibility into this particular area.”
- “Just put a rare Pokémon in there and let the public do the rest.”

Mandatory Post

By Cpt_Kirks • Score: 3 Thread

Gotta Kill ‘em All!

Back in the global Pokemon Go craze …

By Qbertino • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

… Moscow was clogged with Pokemon Go players, just like any other big city on the planet back in the summer of 2016. It was insane. Gorky Park, Victory Park, Arbat clogged with young people running around with their phones, collecting their Pokemons. I was surprised seeing the same crazy stuff going on just like in my homestates capital of Duesseldorf.

That such data is enough to program homing drones with ultra high precision is of no surprise. The sheer amount of data is enough to get all the accuracy you need.

Re:Terrain following navigation tech predates GPS

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Using the Pokemon data is a pretty interesting repurposing of the data.

It’s literally not repurposing. They always intended the game to deliver high resolution imagery coupled with positioning information that could be used for non-game purposes.

An Algorithm Determines How Fast You Should Drive On California’s I-15 Freeway

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Riverside County has launched an 8-mile “smart freeway” pilot on northbound I-15 near Temecula, using roadway sensors and an algorithm to coordinate ramp meters and suggest speeds rather than widening the freeway. Officials say the $33 million project could reduce stop-and-go traffic and travel times. According to SFGATE, similar systems in Australia and Denver reportedly cutting delays by 20% to 65%. From the report:
Unlike typical on-ramp stoplights that run on a timer lasting a few seconds, Interstate 15 drivers could find themselves waiting up to four minutes or even longer while the system determines the necessary speed for traffic entering the freeway. By spacing out the cars, transportation officials hope to improve traffic flow, reduce stop-and-go traffic and decrease the amount of time that travelers have to spend on the freeway.

The transportation commission spent $33 million to build the project, which will run for two years. Riverside County Transportation Commission spokesperson David Knudsen told SFGATE that if the program is successful, the agency will work with Caltrans to deploy it elsewhere in the county and then potentially to other traffic choke points in California. “This system is a lot less expensive than trying to build new lanes, and so the idea here is let’s make the system that we have work better,” he said.

Knudsen said the program is not managed by artificial intelligence but instead uses advanced sensors in the roadway to monitor real-time traffic conditions and make adjustments. The stretch of freeway that connects Temecula at the Riverside/San Diego County line to the Interstate 215 interchange in Murrieta can be notoriously clogged. What can be less than a 10-minute drive with no traffic can take between 25 and 45 minutes during the afternoon peak period, according to the transportation commission. “The intent is to create a consistent flow of traffic on the freeway system, and the coordinated ramp metering among the three on-ramps … will help do that,” Knudsen said. “If we can manage that, then we can help prevent that stop-and-go traffic frustration that so many people feel … on the freeway.”

Probably not as useful.

By getuid() • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Some states in Europe, e.g. Germany, have been doing similar things for decades.

It does improve flow, ultimately difficult to say by how much. But it’s not magic. Probably coupled with a ruthless and stupidly expensive camera based speeding system (i.e. $100 for every 1 mph above the designated flow speed) might work, but otherwise the bottleneck will be slight speeding. It will return laminar flow to oscillatory flow (break & accelerate), then to stop & go pretty soon.

A full highway is a full highway, there’s little in the way of magic or capacity to remedy that.

Re:Probably not as useful.

By Zocalo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
This. The problem isn’t the technology; that can demonstrably be shown to work in models and simulations because of things like - as you say - needing less space between vehicles, and also more complex things like reducing capillary action in the overall traffic flow (the stop-start effect you often get in heavy traffic). The reason why you don’t see those benefits is the growing number of entitled drivers who ignore the signage in the hope of gaming the system for personal gain (e.g. shorter travel time), so you do need robust enforcement with stricter tolerances and more punitive fines to try and deter that.

It’s the classic Prisoner’s Dilemma. The best solution for the greater good is to obey the signage, but the best solution for the individual is almost always to look out for Number One. Smart traffic flow systems do still seem to improve things, despite entitled drivers, although that’s probably more down to the enforcement measures keeping those bending the rules from bending them as far as they’d like to.

Re:Congesting pricing

By jonwil • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Congestion pricing is only an option in places that have good alternatives to driving, something that a freeway in California does not have.

The problem is arseholes.

By mjwx • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

This. The problem isn’t the technology; that can demonstrably be shown to work in models and simulations because of things like - as you say - needing less space between vehicles, and also more complex things like reducing capillary action in the overall traffic flow (the stop-start effect you often get in heavy traffic). The reason why you don’t see those benefits is the growing number of entitled drivers who ignore the signage in the hope of gaming the system for personal gain (e.g. shorter travel time), so you do need robust enforcement with stricter tolerances and more punitive fines to try and deter that.

It’s the classic Prisoner’s Dilemma. The best solution for the greater good is to obey the signage, but the best solution for the individual is almost always to look out for Number One. Smart traffic flow systems do still seem to improve things, despite entitled drivers, although that’s probably more down to the enforcement measures keeping those bending the rules from bending them as far as they’d like to.

Algorithms also assume that people know what they’re doing and will act rationally. If anyone thinks people drive this way they are clearly not paying attention to the roads.

Every traffic jam starts with just one arsehole, just one who thinks they’re different, special, above it all. One arsehole who decides that 30 is fast enough for everyone. One arsehole who sits on the phone, One arsehole who cuts people up, straddles two lanes, doesn’t proceed at a green light. One arsehole who thinks the rules don’t apply to him (and only him) and refuses to fit into traffic.

The kicker is, there are a lot more than just one arsehole on the roads.

And don’t think that autonomous cars will save us, first off, they’ll never work in our lifetimes but ignoring that they will be programmed to follow the rules to the letter (not the least important reason is to ensure the manufacture is as indemnified as possible from any blame), they will wait for a large enough gap, they will ignore faster moving lanes, they will wait for intersections to be clear, they won’t speed… So the arsehole will decide that they know how to drive better because they will force their way into traffic, tailgate, so on and so forth.

Re:The problem is arseholes.

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Algorithms also assume that people know what they’re doing and will act rationally.

No they don’t. Algorithms are trained using a certain amount of “assholishness”. Realistic human behaviour is built into the algorithm and design of roads.

Every traffic jam starts with just one arsehole

No they don’t. Traffic jams are an inevitability which result from people having different destinations. In fact research by TU Delft showed traffic jams are *worse* when everyone is perfectly polite and the most efficient use of roads for moving the most people per unit of time come from when around 1/10th to 1/8th of people do drive like arseholes. This is especially true for subtle rule breaking. E.g. if a roundabout is backed up, but someone wants to go right decides to cut across the shoulder to do so, that’s one less car backing up at the end of traffic jam.

The converse is unfortunately also true, not all arseholes are good. Those people who queue across intersections are objectively a net negative impact on traffic. That said those who change lanes in an intersection during heavy traffic can be a net positive even though it is often illegal to do so.

And the same is true for the overly polite: It’s like lane end merging problem. Some people think they are being polite by merging early, and some people think those who then pass them to overtake at the end are the arseholes, but the reality is the length and location of merging lanes are optimised in relation to other lanes and those polite people who don’t merge in the last minute are actually the ones that cause a braking wave which may lead to an upstream traffic jam.

But ultimately this isn’t something that just a few Slashdotters know about, this is well researched and also underpins road design.

China Lures Foreign Patients With Cutting-Edge, Cheap Medical Care

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg:
While traditional hotspots in the region such as Thailand, South Korea and Malaysia focus on services such as cosmetic surgery, IVF or physicals, China is trying to differentiate itself by providing some of the world’s most advanced procedures. “There are two reasons why a patient travels for medical treatments: availability of advanced treatments and price,” said Victor Cao, operations director of Joyful Medical, an agency in Shanghai that connects international patients to advanced cancer therapies in China. “Chinese people used to travel overseas for treatments that were not available at home, but now tables have turned.”

As expanding visa-free policies eased travel in the past year or so, videos are proliferating on social media of foreigners recounting their positive experiences of treatment in China, usually for consumer procedures like acupuncture and tooth scaling. But one treatment that’s more quietly gaining traction is CAR-T, among the most promising breakthroughs in oncology but unavailable in most countries, or extremely costly. The process sees doctors collect T cells from the patient’s blood then modify them in a lab to produce a special receptor, CAR, that can bind to a specific protein on cancer cells. These engineered cells are then multiplied into large numbers and infused back into the patient. The CAR-T cells seek out cancer cells carrying the target antigen and kill them. In the US, one single infusion can cost between $300,000 to $475,000, according to the American Cancer Society. In China, the equivalent costs about $150,000 to $180,000, and it could get even cheaper — its drug regulator recently accepted a marketing application for a therapy aimed to be priced below 300,000 yuan ($44,000).

China’s medical tourism market remains in its infancy. Lecheng International Medical Tourism Pilot Zone in Hainan, which was designated as the country’s only special medical zone in 2013, treated just a few thousand foreign medical tourists last year, compared to hundreds of thousands of domestic patients who visited. There, patients can access advanced drugs, devices, and therapies approved in other countries but not elsewhere in mainland China. But China is pushing to upgrade its economy and reshape its global image from just a manufacturing hub into a provider of high-value services, and demand for medical tourism is surging. Globally, the market is estimated at around $34 billion and expected to reach $126 billion by 2035, according to San Francisco-based Grand View Research. Meanwhile, China’s sector is projected to grow from $1.3 billion in 2025 to $3.4 billion by 2035, according to New York-based firm Market Research Future.
“The patients chose China for something they can’t get at home,” said Shi Haoying, the group’s founder and chief executive officer. “I think the growing attention to medical tourism to China is the inevitable result of long-term accumulation and development in many areas, such as growing medical technologies, quality of service and cost-effectiveness.”
Jeroen Groenewegen-Lau, an analyst at the Mercator Institute for China Studies, added: “Many new treatments, including in very advanced areas, are made in China but too advanced for the state of its healthcare system and the ability of its patients to pay for these things. It’s in China’s interest to integrate into the international system.”

Those dirty bastards!

By T34L • Score: 5, Funny Thread

I can’t believe they’re just “luring people” into their country with such dastardly underhanded tactics such as *checks notes* rapidly improving standard of living and societal progress! This isn’t a fair fight! I was told we are to exclusively compete via cultish nationalism and information manipulation!

AI, Automation, and the future

By kalieaire • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
The reason this treatment development is so cheap is that in China, the biotech firm mentioned in this article, they’re able to automate most of the process of the CAR-T therapy manufacturing to as little as one day.  The big cost though is the in-patient part of the treatment.

The process, assuming CAR-T is possible as a treatment, the patient gets their blood collected and the CAR-T cell therapy is manufactured, then they undergo Lymphodepletion Chemo, basically working to destroy your immune system for 3-4 days, then the CAR-T cell infusion happens followed by observation for 3-4 weeks.

During that time, the patient will experience really bad fevers and susceptible to infection and other complications that really really really suck, you have no energy and you feel like you’re dying.  You can’t even see your friends and family, everything has to be wiped down, and trained medical staff can only be around you.  Anyone that’s done a bone marrow transplant for Leukemia, or similar, will know how this treatment works.  My friend had to go through it twice because his first transplant ended in rejection.  Fortunately the second one worked and he’s been cancer free for almost 10 years now.

Then you’re there for another 2-4 weeks locally just in case any complications occur like rejection, delayed hyper inflammatory reactions, neurotoxicity syndrome.

With highly targeted cell therapies, AI and manual automation save a lot of time and labor for that specific process, but there’s no decoupling the true pain someone will experience going through this therapy.  Though the cool thing is that bone marrow treatments are also getting an upgrade, they’re moving towards “Universal Donor Cells” or “Allogenic CAR-T” and Autologous Stem Cell Gene Editing.  Instead of trying in futility to find the “Perfect Match” 8 out 8 HLA markers, in the future tha’tll be a thing of the past.  In fact, you might even develop a bone marrow transplant that’s even the same blood type that you had before radiation and chemo to zap your immune system.

The future is bright, but the path is still gonna hurt.

What does that infusion cost in europe?

By Dirk Becher • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Using the U.S. as reference for med prices is rather suboptimal.

Re:China respects veterans too

By Gilmoure • Score: 4, Informative Thread

When I was in training to be a medic (late 1980s) at a USAF hospital that also treated veterans, I asked a doc what he thought of socialized medicine.

“Look around you. That’s what this is.”

Re:Hilarious

By Phact • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Hi Doctor Nick!

Study Links Smartphones With Declining Fertility Rates

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Two recent studies argue that smartphones may have contributed to falling birthrates by reducing in-person social interaction, sexual frequency, and other conditions tied to unintended pregnancies. “One of the studies published in May is called 'The Collapse of Teen Fertility in the Digital Era' and the other, published just Monday, is titled 'Is the iPhone Birth Control? Causal Evidence from AT&T’s 2007-2011 Carrier Monopoly,’" reports KTLA. “Both were chronicled in a New York Times piece by political writer Sabrina Tavernise on Monday.” Slashdot reader sabbede submitted the story. From the report:
The one from May, authored by two University of Cincinnati professors, posits that teen fertility “collapsed globally” starting around 2007 — the same year the first iPhone was released. “Smart phones changed how teens spend time with each other … this change in turn drove the collapse in teen fertility,” the study’s abstract reads. “Once enough teens are on the phone, being on the phone is where the peer network is; in-person time falls sharply, and with it the unstructured contact in which most unintended teen conceptions occur.” The study claimed that countries “across the income and policy spectrum” were affected by the teen fertility drop, and that researchers used data from multiple countries, including the U.S., England and Wales, to rule out “country-specific contraceptive access and welfare reform stories.” “This model predicts that the shift towards the phone-mediated equilibrium affects multiple aspects of teen behavior,” the abstract continues, concluding that “the same instrument that produces a collapse in teen fertility produces a surge in teen suicides.”

The study published on Monday looks more closely at the United States, explaining that nationwide general fertility rates have fallen 22% since 2007. "[This is] a sustained decline not readily explained by economic conditions, contraceptive use, housing or childcare costs, or other commonly cited factors,” the National Bureau of Economic Researchers study states. “We assess the potential role of a different shock: the diffusion of the smartphone.” As mentioned before, the first iPhone was rolled out in 2007, and this study makes use of that timeframe as “a natural experiment” by using data from 2007 through 2011, when iPhones were only sold on AT&T. “From June 2007 through February 2011, the device was sold only on AT&T, allowing us to identify its effect from variation in AT&T’s mobile broadband coverage,” the study says. “Entropy-balanced Poisson and synthetic difference-in-differences event studies imply that access to the iPhone reduced births by 4.5-8.0% at ages 15-19 and 3.2-6.6% at ages 20-24, with statistically significant but smaller declines among older cohorts. Placebo analyses applied to Verizon and Sprint’s pre-2011 coverage footprint are null.

Taken together, these cohort effects imply that the diffusion of the iPhone deepened the decline in births among women under 30 while suppressing the rise in births among older women.” “Overall, the diffusion of the iPhone explains 33-52% of the decline in the general fertility rate among women aged 15-44,” researchers continued. “National-survey evidence on time use and sexual behavior is consistent with the iPhone reducing in-person interactions, increasing pornography use and reducing sexual frequency.”

Ban smartphones in school…

By Local ID10T • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Bring back unwanted teen pregnancies!

Why is slashdot posting these garbage articles?

By jgainey • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
This is a garbage framing of the issue. The article takes a real demographic fact — birth rates have been falling — and gives the most headline-friendly tech explanation: smartphones. But that is a weak causal story compared with the much more direct variables everyone is living through: housing costs, wage stagnation, student debt, childcare costs, healthcare costs, delayed household formation, and wealth being increasingly captured by the top of the economy. Yes, smartphones may be associated with reduced in-person socializing or changed dating behavior. But that does not make them the root cause. They could just as easily be a proxy for urbanization, class, education, income, broadband access, cultural change, or other regional differences. AT&T iPhone coverage from 2007–2011 is clever as a study design, but it is still not magic. Coverage maps are not randomly assigned social experiments. The more plausible causal chain is simpler: wealth concentrates -> assets inflate -> housing and adulthood become unaffordable -> people delay marriage/children -> fertility falls Blaming the phone is convenient because it turns a structural economic problem into a consumer-behavior story. It lets everyone avoid the harder conclusion: people are not having fewer kids because Steve Jobs invented the iPhone. They are having fewer kids because stable adult life has become too expensive and too insecure.

Re:Ban smartphones in school…

By Tony Isaac • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Every technology has a dark side, to be sure. Reducing teen pregnancy is not one of them.

Re: Ban smartphones in school…

By OrangeTide • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Our economic system does not cope with population decline. So something has to give, and I don’t think given how we treat women or screw over the younger generation that they’re going to start raising extra children.

Re: Ban smartphones in school…

By cayenne8 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Declining population is solved rather easy. You just open a border here and there.

And then, you lose your country....the culture is lost, what makes your country YOUR country....disappears.

And if that’s the fate.....I’d rather have it die slowly of population decline than see it evaporate and become unrecognizable in my lifetime .

Poland To Jail Online Streamers of Violent Crime For Up To 5 Years

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Polish lawmakers have voted to criminalize “trash streaming,” with up to five years in prison for online broadcasts of serious crimes such as rape or murder, animal cruelty, humiliating violence, gambling promotion, or even simulated depictions of those acts. Reuters reports:
The move is part of a broader push by Poland to tighten regulation of online content. Recent measures include banning the use of mobile phones by children under 16 in schools and introducing stricter age verification rules to access pornography. Under the new provisions, broadcasting crimes punishable by more than five years in prison, including murder or rape, will itself be classed as a separate offence punishable by up to five years behind bars.

The law also covers content showing cruelty to animals, violence aimed at humiliating others, and the promotion of gambling. The same penalties will apply to individuals who simulate or falsely portray the commission of such crimes while streaming, lawmakers said.

Highly abusable

By rsilvergun • Score: 3, Insightful Thread
So a police officer beats the shit out of somebody right? You put that on the internet and now you’ve got 5 years in prison for it.

Seriously is anyone dumb enough that they don’t see right through shit like this? There is already bound to be existing obscenity law that can be used against this kind of content. But those laws usually have a much higher bar to prove.

It’s amazing how easy it was to get everybody to give up their rights and privacy and freedom. It took a while but the problem is the people working on this, the fascists, are always backed by huge amounts of cash. Most of their backers are going to end up dead in purges but when you’ve got that much money it gives you a big head and you think you’re one of the movers and shakers right up until somebody like Putin stabs you with a umbrella or put something in your tea…

As for the rest of us anyone reading this is smart enough to know this is bad news but there’s plenty of people who think they are in the in group and that they’re going to get to be the ones wearing the boots when it comes time to stomp necks. They’re not but if you’re dumb enough to think it’s fun to stop people’s necks you’re dumb enough to think you’re going to be the one doing The stomping

Re:Highly abusable

By machineghost • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

TFA says nothing whatsoever about that. What it says is:

Under the new provisions, broadcasting crimes punishable by more than five years in prison, including murder or rape, will itself be classed as a separate offence punishable by up to five years behind bars.

The law also covers content showing cruelty to animals, violence aimed at humiliating others, and the promotion of gambling.

The same penalties will apply to individuals who simulate or falsely portray the commission of such crimes while streaming, lawmakers said.

So again, nothing about not posting cop abuse videos. If you have some other information beyond the article, share it … but otherwise, why are you wasting your life spreading FUD, over something you clearly know nothing about?

Clarity is Needed

By SmaryJerry • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Based on the article its impossible to discern whether the outlawed broadcasts are only those where you are involved in the situation, such as creating or enabling it, or whether this would also outlaw things like live news coverage or live streaming of events people stumble upon while walking down the road.

Re:Highly abusable

By jenningsthecat • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

TFA says nothing whatsoever about that. What it says is:

Under the new provisions, broadcasting crimes punishable by more than five years in prison, including murder or rape, will itself be classed as a separate offence punishable by up to five years behind bars.

So again, nothing about not posting cop abuse videos.

If what the cop is doing is a crime “punishable by more than five years in prison”, then posting a video of the cop committing said crime is also a crime under the new legislation - at least according to TFS: “Under the new provisions, broadcasting crimes punishable by more than five years in prison, including murder or rape, will itself be classed as a separate offence punishable by up to five years behind bars”.

NO, you are wrong

By A nonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

It’s a crime in the US to “shout fire in a movie theater”. Guess Americans live in Soviet times too.

NO. It is a crime to FALSELY shout fire in a theater. Huge difference.

Coinbase Launches Tool To Let AI Agents Manage Trading and Payments

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Coinbase has launched Coinbase for Agents, a tool that lets AI agents like ChatGPT or Claude execute crypto trades and manage payments on a user’s behalf. “For example, customers can prompt their agent to rebalance portfolios, identify trading opportunities, execute strategies and manage positions over time,” reports CNBC. “It will eventually expand these capabilities to stocks and predictions.” From the report:
[U]sing Coinbase’s machine-to-machine payments protocol, called x402, agents can pay directly for digital services like paywalled research, data APIs and on-demand compute without a human in the loop — and execute trades based on those insights. The company sees this stage of agentic payments, which lets customers bypass the need to manage traditional logins or subscriptions, as a precursor to agentic shopping, where agents browse, find the best deals, select and make purchases on users’ behalf.

[…] The whole idea is to give agents access to money and, through that financial independence, improve their set of capabilities to pretty much anything on the internet,” Lincoln Murr, Coinbase’s AI product lead, told CNBC. “In the 2010s, every internet company dealt with the transition from desktop and web into a mobile environment. And now in the late 2020s, we’re seeing the exact same thing happen where agents are going to be the new primary economic actors on the internet.”

The x402 protocol was created in May 2025 and has seen more than 100 million transactions since its debut, Murr said. There are about 157,000 agents acting as buyers using the protocol in the past 30 days, according to x402scan.com. “We saw immediate demand and interest in the ability for agents to pay for things autonomously and that was a huge waking up moment for us [on] the ability of agents to become these new primary financial actors across the internet,” he said.

Noice

By Bill, Shooter of Bul • Score: 3 Thread
So, ai agent places “prediction” that public figure A is dead, orders product from grocery store with hidden ingredient they are known to be allergic to and delivers to their house. This isn’t Asimov, we built the bots without the three rules.

terms and conditions?

By kencurry • Score: 3 Thread
Have to say if you are naive enough to do this you are probably not the type who reads the “terms and conditions” page anyways. Why does this bother me? Not my thing so I shouldn’t care at all. But still, I don’t want to see society go to complete shit quite yet.

Euro-Office 1.0 Arrives To Open-Source Infighting: ‘Compatibility Is Not Sovereignty’

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet:
If digital sovereignty is important to you, and it certainly is in the European Union (EU), then you’ll be pleased to know that EuroOffice, a new open-source browser-based office suite alternative to Microsoft 365 and Google Workspace, has officially reached its first stable release. A coalition of EU-based companies, including Nextcloud, Ionos, and other Euro-Stack participants, is positioning Euro-Office as a cornerstone of European digital sovereignty. However, The Document Foundation (TDF), LibreOffice’s steward, accuses the project of reinforcing Microsoft’s document lock-in, which TDF argues isn’t friendly to open standards.

Setting aside the open-source politics for the moment, here’s what Euro-Office brings you. The release went live on June 9. It is, however, not a stand-alone office suite. As the software’s backers explain in a FAQ, “Euro-Office is more of an integration component. It merely handles document editing itself. Storage, as well as navigation, permissions, and sharing logic, have to be offered by a platform it is integrated in, like Proton Docs, Nextcloud Hub, or OpenProject.” So, while you can install Euro-Office on your own Linux server, you’ll need to integrate it yourself. If you’re not a Linux expert, however, don’t give up hope. Some companies have already released packaged, ready-to-install Euro-Office stacks, including Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring, Ionos’ Nextcloud Workspace, and Office.eu. These initial deployments are web-based rather than standalone desktop suites.

The goal, organizers say, is to give European organizations a way to host their office suite on EU infrastructure under EU law, while maintaining an experience familiar to Microsoft Office users. Specifically, Euro-Office is meant to be “a solution for editing documents, spreadsheets, and presentations, developed as a true sovereign community collaboration of over a dozen different organizations.”
TDF’s main objection is that Euro-Office’s decision to default to Microsoft’s OOXML format undercuts its claims of European digital sovereignty, since OOXML remains closely tied to Microsoft Office behavior and control. “Compatibility is not sovereignty,” TDF warned, saying a European-branded suite that saves files in OOXML by default “is de facto an ally of Microsoft in its content lock-in strategy.”

Nope

By Tailhook • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
https://office.eu/

Start in Minutes, Move at Your Pace
Step 1
Link your Microsoft or Google account.

LOL

Microsoft Office Open (OOXML) format

By Mirnotoriety • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
M$ office still doesn’t implement “OOXML” to specification (it’s impossible for anyone else but m$ anyway - for example it has stuff like; autoSpaceLikeWord95 which says to use word 95 spacing, but does not document the spacing rules).

The format m$ office uses is Microsoft Office XML (MOX), which is proprietary and is changed every time libreoffice goes and reverse engineers the latest sabotage (for example, libreoffice supports parsing XML-encoded C struct, which is needed to support the typical m$ development practice of dumping the memory of the data structure that encodes the data into the file).

“OOXML” is the result of m$ grabbing their internal documentation (that they don’t follow anyway), removing the important information and then dumping the remaining over 6000 pages and calling it a “standard” and then got ECMA to rubber stamp it as a “standard” (even though something impossible to implement even after following 6000 pages is not a standard and will never be).

M$ definitely didn’t corrupt the voting process by instructing their serfs to vote yes in exchange for “marketing contribution” and “extra support in the form av Microsoft resources”; reference

Re: Compatibility catch 22

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

OOXML is a fake standard it’s impossible to fully implement.

Re:Nope

By dinfinity • Score: 5, Informative Thread

https://office.eu/ [office.eu]

Not the same thing.

https://github.com/Euro-Office is what this is about.

They are somewhat related, though:
“Euro-Office is open source and developed in public by a community of individuals and organizations. We welcome contributions from anyone, including individuals, companies, public organizations and non-profits. We encourage anyone who cares about free and open source, modern office technology to get involved! Our goal is to have as few barriers as possible to contribution.

Current contributors and supporters include:

        Abilian
        BTactic
        EuroStack
        IONOS
        Nextcloud
        Office.EU
        Open-Xchange
        OpenProject
        Proton
        Soverin
        Tuta
        XWiki”

Re:Compatibility catch 22

By Cley Faye • Score: 5, Informative Thread

There is an ISO standard, yes. Overly complex for the simplest things, but whatever.

Then there’s the actual de-facto reference implementation, which does not adhere strictly to that standard in the first place, meaning any other implementation that claims great compatibility with MS Office files will need to have “ISO standard” mode and “ISO standard but not really” mode.

Then there’s the occasional extension to the standard, using not-yet (sometimes never) standardized additions, developed behind closed doors, whose behavior varies slightly from one version to another. Any other “compliant” implementation will also have to support them, but this time, oops, no documentation, good luck.

And, supposedly, Microsoft tools do support OpenDocument. But, given the limited amount of resource Microsoft have, they can’t implement it very well, despite also being an ISO standard. Weirdly, it’s always open/free/small business that have to put in the work and the money to support the ever changing non-compliant formats pushed by Microsoft. I wonder why.

The point is, no matter how popular alternative gets, there will always be a boss somewhere that goes “I can’t open that document, fix that”, and the only direction this ever move, is toward “we must support Microsoft shenanigans”, never in the opposite direction. Then comes the EU, today, going “yep, let’s do our best to adhere to Microsoft dominance and keep empowering them in it”. I understand why some people are miffed by that.

I hear the “but I have to be able to read a document” argument, because it is true. But it is also true that playing catch-up with an openly hostile actor that have zero incentive to help anyone else in the race can only lead to losing said race.