Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Verisign Is Finally Bringing .web Domains To the Internet
  2. Private Mission Launches To Extend Life of Out-of-Gas Communication Satellites
  3. Pan Am Plane Crash That Inspired Modern Safety Briefings Found After 74 Years
  4. GM Is Quietly Becoming a Subscriptions Company
  5. iOS 27 Code Suggests Apple Could Restrict Leased Devices After Missed Payments
  6. Linux Kernel Team Publishes 432 CVEs In Two Days
  7. Apple Partners With Klarna To Offer iPhones, Macs On a Subscription Basis
  8. The Army Is Burning Through Its AI Tokens
  9. Microsoft Announces Xbox Backward Compatibility For PC
  10. Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8 Announced to Compete With Future iPhone Fold
  11. LG To Ban Residential Proxies From Smart TV Apps
  12. Jack Dorsey Takes On Slack and GitHub With New AI Workplace Platform ‘Buzz’
  13. Long Presumed Dead, a Thriving Coral Reef Is Discovered in West Africa
  14. OpenAI Says Its AI Models Acted On Its Own In An ‘Unprecedented’ Hack
  15. France Becomes First European Country To Ban Social Media Access For Under-15s

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Verisign Is Finally Bringing .web Domains To the Internet

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BrianFagioli writes:
Verisign is finally bringing web domains to the internet after a decade of fighting. Verisign says the .web top-level domain has finally been delegated into the DNS root, clearing the way for public registrations later in 2026. Until now, consumers could not buy normal working .web domains, despite the extension attracting a record $135 million winning bid in 2016. The launch could make .web one of the more recognizable alternatives to .com, but Verisign already operates both .com and .net, raising questions about whether this creates real competition or simply gives the dominant registry operator another valuable extension.
The decade-long fight began after a company called Nu Dot Co won the rights to operate .web in a 2016 ICANN auction with a record $135 million bid secretly funded by Verisign. Rival bidder Afilias, which was later acquired by Donuts, challenged the sale, arguing ICANN should have investigated the relationship before allowing the auction. This triggered years of complaints, reviews, and legal disputes that have ultimately now been resolved under undisclosed terms.

Beat the rush: blacklist the entire TLD now

By Arrogant-Bastard • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Like every other unneeded and unwanted TLD that’s been introduced in the last decade-plus, this will be overrun by spammers and scammers within days. There will be millions (if not tens of millions) of domains registered, used once/burned, and discarded. Since even attempting to deal with these on a case-by-case is simply unworkable, a much better choice is to preemptively blacklist them all permanently and get on with doing something productive.

Private Mission Launches To Extend Life of Out-of-Gas Communication Satellites

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Northrop Grumman has launched a private satellite-servicing mission to attach life-extending “jetpacks” to aging communications satellites in geosynchronous orbit. “It’s the second satellite-saving mission to launch this month, all part of a growing, money-saving effort to keep spacecraft running as long as possible,” reports Phys.org. From the report:
Launched by SpaceX, Northrop Grumman’s mission robotic vehicle — dubbed MRV — and its jetpacks will spend the next year angling into the proper orbit 22,300 miles (36,000 kilometers) above Earth. Hundreds of satellites orbit at this so-called geosynchronous orbit, where they match the speed of Earth’s rotation and keep to the same part of the sky for continuous coverage. Once in place by mid-2027, the minivan-sized spacecraft will use its 10-foot (9-meter) arms to attach a jetpack to an aging communication satellite. Then it will zip off to two more satellites in need.

For its debut flight, the spacecraft was accompanied by three electric-propelled jetpacks that peeled away separately following liftoff. Like the MRV, the jetpacks will use their own xenon gas thrusters to get to the desired orbit. Once in place, the jetpacks will wait for the robot to grab them, one at a time, and plug them into their designated satellites. Each jetpack — the size of a washing machine — will provide the necessary oomph for an out-of-gas satellite to keep operating for several more years instead of retiring. If it works, it will be a boon for satellite operators SES of Luxembourg and Optus of Australia, saving them millions of dollars in replacement costs.

Re:Math

By T34L • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

The thrust to weight and specific impulse of ion thrusters, as well as the power to weight capability of the solar panels that’ll be powering them, have actually been changing a lot, and that really shrunk the payload needed to make one of these “jetpacks” useful. The cost of the orbital launch per unit of mass changed less than what we can do with the mass once it’s in orbit.

Re:dual use

By T34L • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

That’s like saying a Toyota Prius is dual use because you can drive one up to infantry standing against a wall and slowly crush them using it. Every military even remotely competitive at the orbital theater has incomparably cheaper and more reliable ways to disable satellites than to gently de-orbit them using a vehicle designed for sustained operation with very low acceleration requirements.

If there’s any military utility, it’d be to attach devices that could intercept or tamper with communication going thorugh the satellite, but even that feels like hell of a stretch considering how expensive and difficult it would be and considering the moment the target notices you did that, you might have just as well just disabled the satellite at fraction of the effort, because at that point it’s not like your enemy will keep using the bugged satellite.

Mission Extension Vehicle

By Geoffrey.landis • Score: 3 Thread

Also worth noting that this follows on from the earlier Northrup-Grumman “Mission Extension Vehicle”, which in 2019 launched to dock and reposition Intelsat 901, a first for a telerobotically operated spacecraft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Some sites:
  https://www.northropgrumman.co…
  https://news.northropgrumman.c…

Coincidentally, Northrup Grumman was also involved in the SWIFT reboost mission, launched the beginning of this month, tp extend the lifetime of the Swift orbital telescope by boosting it into a higher orbit. (In this case, though, they didn’t build the spacecraft, just provided the launch service, on a Pegasus)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/n…

Pan Am Plane Crash That Inspired Modern Safety Briefings Found After 74 Years

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Longtime Slashdot reader BeaverCleaver shares a report from the BBC:
The wreckage of a Pan American Airways plane has been found 74 years after it plunged into the Atlantic Ocean in a crash that prompted mandatory airline safety briefings. The Clipper Endeavor was found 2,000ft (610m) below sea level off the coast of Puerto Rico with a sonar-equipped drone. It went down on April 11, 1952, following multiple-engine failure shortly after take-off.

Everyone onboard survived the impact — but passengers struggled to locate life vests and rafts as the plane rapidly sank. Of the 69 passengers and crew onboard, just 17 survived. The disaster led to sweeping reforms in aviation safety, including compulsory pre-flight safety briefings on every commercial flight. […] Today, before every commercial flight, cabin crew are required to outline where a plane’s exits are, as well as the location of life vests and how to inflate them.

Survivable crashes are now rare

By CommunityMember • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
I can typically recite the safety briefing from memory (I have flown a lot of flights over many decades), but most people clearly no longer pay attention to the briefings. As survivable crashes are now so rare it probably does not matter that they are not paying attention, but just in case the crash might be survivable, they, perhaps, should listen (not that that is going to change their actions).

Sully’s Hudson Landing

By drnb • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Actually Sully’s Hudson Landing might be a good example of how effective those briefings are.

How many of today’s passengers not paying attention have heard the briefing before? Or through osmosis learn their life vest is under their seat?

Re:Sully’s Hudson Landing

By CommunityMember • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Actually Sully’s Hudson Landing might be a good example of how effective those briefings are.

I would argue that the flight attendants “screaming” at the passengers as to what to do were far more effective than the briefing itself (but because the flight attendants were trained on safety and safe evacuation, they knew what to scream). From having some emergency response training, I have learned that most people, in an emergency, are sheep, and will follow any directions that seems to be reasonable (given they, themselves, are in a panic and really don’t know what else to do, and are willing to accept that someone else might know, so follow the direction). Sully may have made some great decisions, but the flight attendants were, in many ways, among the heroes of that incident in the saving of lives.

Wikipedia link

By BeaverCleaver • Score: 5, Informative Thread

I should have thought to look on Wikipedia before I made the submission. There’s some more detail about the accident at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

According to witnesses, many passengers refused leave the sinking aircraft to get into the life rafts. I’m not sure how a modern safety briefing is going to fix that. But I can also see how going down quickly with the sinking aircraft might be preferable to a slow death at sea from exposure, or a painful death by shark attack. In this case, it turns out that the rescue was very very fast, but in the 1950s such a rapid rescue was probably much more rare.

Re:Sully’s Hudson Landing

By aaarrrgggh • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

A friend was a flight attendant on the recent suicide-by-aircraft-engine-injestion incident. People don’t listen; they take videos, they grab their rollerboards and everything else, they do stupid things (and apparently some flight attendants freeze up and forget to open their door). Just to throw it out there, the real reason you should not take a bag with you is it will greatly increase the risk of injury as you evacuate. Someone at the bottom of the slide is supposed to help you stop— if you take them out with your baggage that is much less likely to happen. If it is important, have it on your body at least for taxi, takeoff, and landing.

Safety briefings really need to change. They need to be compact, concise, and focused on the high risk events. They don’t need to be comedy, they can’t be advertisements, and they need to have a system to make it permanent memory for people that do fly a lot, kind of like education.

GM Is Quietly Becoming a Subscriptions Company

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“General Motors has been pulling a Tim Cook and boosting its software and subscription business,” reports Business Insider. During the automaker’s Tuesday earnings call, executives said they’re increasingly leaning on software subscriptions like OnStar and Super Cruise to generate high-margin recurring revenue long after customers buy their vehicles. GM says OnStar brought in about $800 million in the second quarter, while Super Cruise revenue grew about 70% year over year. From the report:
GM says its software business keeps roughly 70 cents of every dollar it brings in. That’s a rare level of profitability in the auto industry, as many car sales generate just four to 10 cents per sales dollar. […] GM expects to add about 1 million OnStar subscribers this year, bringing the total close to 13 million. Super Cruise, GM’s hands-free, eyes-on driving system, is growing even faster. GM added about 70,000 subscribers during the quarter and expects to end the year with more than 850,000. Revenue from the service increased about 70% from a year earlier.

And a lot of drivers are sticking around after the free period ends. GM said between 30% and 40% of eligible owners continue paying after their included three-year Super Cruise subscription expires. [..] “We do think we have tremendous levers, multiple levers of growth,” Barra said on the call. “We definitely think there’s a lot of opportunity at GM to grow, improve margins, and become less cyclical.”

“Software and services are becoming increasingly important to how customers experience GM vehicles and how we deliver value beyond the initial purchase,” a spokesperson previously told Business Insider. “As vehicles become more software-defined, we can introduce new digital experiences through updates and optional services rather than hardware changes.”

brakes only $4.99/mo or $50/year!

By Joe_Dragon • Score: 5, Funny Thread

brakes only $4.99/mo or $50/year!

Re:Yeah, no

By darkain • Score: 5, Informative Thread

“OnStar brought in about $800 million in the second quarter”

Re:They don’t even write good software!

By PhantomHarlock • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Tesla is awful due to the lack of physical controls where they would really make sense. It is an actively driver-hostile car. Other than the powertrain, which is amazing, the car is completely obnoxious. The door handles in particular are a huge problem and have been banned in China. Why would you intentionally make door handles that are super awkward to open rather than just pull? Why would you make someone dig through a menu to adjust the mirrors, or adjust the A/C vents and other controls? Trying to shift with the right stalk? Awkward and horrible. I think they thought it was sexy to just have a screen and nothing else, but in reality it just absolutely sucks. Before you say, “but have you owned one?” Yes, yes I have. It’s my wife’s current daily driver. And I avoid driving it like the plague.

Suckers

By PhantomHarlock • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

So they’re taking all your data, selling it, and making you pay for the privilege? Must be a nice business if you have zero scruples.

Why do you need OnStar? Who would want to steal a GM car? All the GM brands are at the very bottom of Consumer Reports reliability index for 2026.

OnStar uses cellular service to connect, so if you have an emergency, either both OnStar and your cell phone work, or neither work. So there’s no advantage to using OnStar rather than just dialing 911. 911 services are allowed access to your phone’s GPS location regardless of settings.

It just seems like a pork package to sell along with the clear coat. Not to mention the theft of your data without compensation, whether you subscribe or not. You have to physically disable the modem to avoid that.

Re:They don’t even write good software!

By Tony Isaac • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Yeah, I hate cars that have the often-used controls as touch-screen. I don’t even like touch-screen radio controls. Give me a button to push or a knob to turn.

But then, I drive a stick shift, so my opinion doesn’t count. :-)

iOS 27 Code Suggests Apple Could Restrict Leased Devices After Missed Payments

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Code found in the iOS 27 beta suggests Apple is developing a system that could restrict leased iPhones when customers fall behind on payments. The discovery follows a recent Bloomberg report that Apple may soon launch a new “Apple Upgrade” leasing program, allowing customers to pay for hardware through monthly installments. 9to5Mac reports:
The code describes a system called App Managed Features, which allows an authorized financing or provider app to enroll an iPhone and perform ongoing status checks. If the contract is no longer in good standing, Apple’s system services can place the iPhone in “Restricted Mode,” which blocks access to most apps until the payment or contract issue is resolved, while keeping a small set of apps available. The fixed allowlist currently found in the iOS 27 beta includes: Accessibility Reader, App Store, Health, Magnifier, Phone, Clock, Settings, Wallet, Passwords, and the Restricted Mode interface itself.

Apps that can send critical alerts, such as Messages, Home, and certain medication or safety apps, may also remain accessible. However, the provider appears to have some control over those exceptions. The code does not appear to cancel, suspend, or otherwise modify App Store subscriptions associated with blocked apps. As a result, a subscription could continue billing even while access to its app is restricted.

Additionally, there isn’t a fixed number of missed payments that automatically triggers the restrictions. The financing provider’s app decides when to lock the device based on its own policies. Finally, the new framework also introduces a new type of activation lock called “Partner Finance Lock,” which is meant to prevent users from erasing, reselling, or stripping a restricted device for parts.

Re: So an improvement?

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Nah, they will keep slowing down old devices with new features users didn’t ask for in order to induce additional sales

Ownership and the Next Check.

By geekmux • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

..to enroll an iPhone and perform ongoing status checks. If the contract is no longer in good standing..

I’m more concerned about how it behaves when there is no need for a contract at all.

If someone walks in the door with an MSRP-amount of cash in their hands ready to buy outright a device that is normally sold to a loan-licker who loves a new fashionable lease, how exactly is said device re-configured to ensure an owner is NOT treated like a debt-owing pseudo-suspect?

Now let’s clarify the definition of ownership again. Because the next Orwellian “check” they will make when financial fuckery isn’t enough to censor and control you, is your social credit score..

Apple Fan No More

By dotslashdot • Score: 3 Thread
I used to like Apple as the scrappy underdog giving people tools and free software other companies charged for. Now Apple is heading toward being another greedy corporation nickel and diming their users for money without adding value. It is bizarre Apple would spend time, money, and expertise developing a Tech feature to help creditors go after its customers and users, particularly given its recent software failures. Apple used to be morally anchored under Steve Jobs as going after the big guy while looking out for the little guy . Or maybe it was just good PR. But at least it worked. Now Apple is helping its fellow big guy as a big guy and throwing its products and customers under the bus and does not care.

Re:Tough to feel sorry for fools.

By lucifuge31337 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
I’ve been in telecom for most of my career, often dealing with apps and test phones so I’ve run the gamut of the cheapest to the greatest most expensive phones as test devices and personal devices over the course of the last couple of decades.

Simple advice that people who need it don’t want to hear: for years now it’s been possible to get a really, really usable phone for $30 (used to be $20). I’m not talking about a flip phone, I mean somehting running a reasinable enough android version with reasonable enough specs to run whatever bullshit apps you think you need and be a functional part of society with for as much as a phone with internet access and a camera to read QR codes seems to be increasingly required.

There is zero reason to spend more without 1.) the means to do so and 2.) a good reason why that basic phone won’t do what you need it to. If 1.) is big enough you get to just buy shit you don’t need because you want to. That’s how this has always worked. But increasingly it’s people without enough money buying much too expensive phones that have capabilities they will never use and financing them to boot.

Tell me again

By RitchCraft • Score: 3 Thread

Tell me again how Apple is so much better than other tech vampire companies. Oh that’s right, Apple sets the standard.

Linux Kernel Team Publishes 432 CVEs In Two Days

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Ancient Slashdot reader alanw shares a post from the OSS Security mailing list, where sysadmin Jan Schaumann wonders what to do after the Linux kernel cranked out 432 CVEs in a little over 24 hours: “I understand the position that CVEs were always a flawed way to track or prioritize security changes… But this onslaught really shows it’s not feasible to attempt to prioritize individual kernel changes. I’m not sure what to do here going forward.” The Register reports:
The nixCraft team speculated on social media that AI bug reports are a likely reason for all those kernel CVEs, which wouldn’t be without precedent - Linus Torvalds himself said in May that the Linux kernel security mailing list had become "almost entirely unmanageable" due to AI-assisted bug hunting. Nonetheless, Torvalds has described AI as a useful tool for Linux development while still noting it can be a drag for maintainers, both from a workload standpoint and the fact “it keeps finding embarrassing bugs.” […]

Unfortunately for Linux sysadmins, the position in which they find themselves in this current mess isn’t one that’s readily solved. CVEs might be a messy way to track and prioritize security updates, especially when hundreds of them are published over a short period, but without something better, it falls to IT and security teams to determine which vulnerabilities affect their systems and which kernel updates they need to deploy.
Senior kernel maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman replied to Jan’s post, pushing back on the idea that the kernel’s CVE volume is uniquely unmanageable. The kernel isn’t special, he argues — companies everywhere are finally realizing they need to re-evaluate how they update all of their systems and devices, something that’s traditionally been “woefully ignored.”

On the “just always update” approach, Greg says that’s precisely what the kernel community endorses: “This is what the kernel developer community recommends and supports. If you want support from us, do this.” Can’t manage it yourself? Pay a company for support, or “just use Debian or Yocto as their security practices are amazing.” He points to Android as proof the approach scales, calling it “the largest deployment of software in the world” — billions of devices kept updated “with one very-overworked developer guiding it all.”

As for reviewing every CVE individually, he notes this can be largely automated by intersecting the files a CVE touches with the files you actually build, which typically trims the relevant set “down to about 10% of the overall total” — the approach enterprise distros already take for their customers. Panic-mode selective patching gets a blunt “Good luck with that!” — regulations like the EU’s Cyber Resilience Act are set to legislate that habit away (“rightfully so,” in his view), and “your insurance company might wish to have a talk with you as well.”

Greg also warns the flood isn’t over: “The number of llm-found issues is only on the rise right now, it’s going to be a very long 18 months at the least to dig ourselves out of this mess, and people had BETTER be updating their systems all along the way if they expect to be secure in any way.” As for the 432-CVE burst itself, he explains it was simply him catching up on a weeks-old, publicly visible review queue over the weekend — delayed by “a perfect storm of 6 weeks straight of conferences and vacations” — so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise to anyone watching the public git repo.

Re:Great news

By Junta • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Depends on the number of realistically ‘false positives’.

I’ve known a few people who find the kernel CVEs particularly unreasonable as they tend to aggressively assume security implications. If they grant a CVE to a ‘mere bug’, no one is going to get too grumpy over that specific item. If someone believes they have a vulnerability and do not see a CVE, then people get riled up. So some feel the kernel is just granting CVEs to avoid pushing back.

The other headache is the monolithic nature of the project. “Linux” covers just everything. A potential security issue in a device never seen outside of PA-RISC systems 20 years ago? It’s a “Linux” issue, so every x86 system will be flagged as ‘affected’ by security software that cannot deal with nuance

Of course, we are here mainly because the kernel team largely recognizes the practice of trying to apply only security updates while avoiding ‘only bug’ fixes as pretty insane. So err on the side of caution make CVEs extra unmanageable because realistically it was a pretty crappy strategy for such a complex project anyway.

Broadly speaking, CVEs are usually pretty bogus, but a small percentage are very real and critical issues. You can’t use the ‘score’ to really measure this either, it’s not very good in the first place, and for example I saw the exact same issue in a C library and a python binding for that C library, and for whatever reason they graded the C library as ‘minor’ and python binding for that library ‘critical’, despite the python binding being nothing but a ctypes wrapper around the c library…

Re:Going to get worse before it gets better

By Junta • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Most maddening for open source projects is the number of false positives exacerbated by multiple people trying to ‘help’ by running effectively the same security audit as a bunch of other people have done and trying to open issues that are duplicate…

Huge pain in the ass dealing with contributions from people who don’t understand enough to analyze their LLMs “findings” and just pass them through “in case they are helpful”.

Might be nice once the fad of “everyone contribute by running duplicate reviews” subsides though.

Re:it keeps finding embarrassing bugs.

By swillden • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Is there any other kind?

Sure there are. Some bug reports, you look at them and dig in and say “Damn, that’s obscure. It depends on subtly-wrong but arguably-correct-in-isolation mistakes in four different places. How the hell did they even find that?”.

Granted that it’s more common to glance at it and just be ashamed, or to look at it and say “Really? You think an attacker can do A, B, C, D, and E, all at the same time? Oh, and to do B or D they’d already have to have the system mostly compromised. Okay, I’ll fix it, but no way in hell is that actually exploitable.”

Re:Great news

By robot5x • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Jan Schaumann wonders what to do after the Linux kernel cranked out 432 CVEs in a little over 24 hours: "… this onslaught really shows it’s not feasible to attempt to prioritize individual kernel changes. I’m not sure what to do here going forward.”

So he literally says “it’s not feasible to prioritize” and “I’m not sure what to do”. Is that ‘complaining’, where you come from? Cos it sounds like overwhelm and turning to colleagues for support.

People making strawmen about people complaining makes them look bad.

Re:Going to get worse before it gets better

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

GCC can do it.

But it didn’t.

Good coding practices (setting pointers to NULL after freeing memory) prevent exploitability.

But they didn’t.

You can frame it any way you want, the end result is that exploits were found and patched. You assertion that it could have been done another way is irrelevant since those tools and practices have been available for a long time, and yet the zerodays persisted.

Apple Partners With Klarna To Offer iPhones, Macs On a Subscription Basis

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Apple is reportedly launching a Klarna financing deal that will let U.S. customers spread the cost of devices over up to three years, pushing the company closer to a hardware-as-a-service model. “The only thing you don’t get under the new arrangement is AppleCare, for which you’ll allegedly need to pay extra,” notes Computerworld. From the report:
The introduction of the scheme gives consumers a way to purchase the company’s popular high-end devices when they are introduced — no doubt,at higher cost — this fall. […] A combination of changed customer habits and external threat means the stars are now aligned for hardware-as-a-service models. “Reframing a device as a low monthly payment protects that [upgrade] cadence and allows Apple to start marketing their products as device-as-a-service to consumers, which no other vendor was ever able to do,” [IDC analyst Francisco Jeronimo] wrote to me.

There is a one-more-thing aspect to this: the products are effectively being leased, a new approach that will give Apple a stronger grip on EOL devices, helping it grab more of them for refurbishment, resale, and recycling. Over time, this will give the company a much stronger grip on the lucrative second-user market that exists around Apple equipment, even while for almost every consumer product we find the life we want is something we can rent, but probably can’t afford to own.

The other solid reason to take a partnership approach is risk management. Apple had intended to develop its own buy-now, pay-later scheme via Apple Pay Later, but abandoned that plan as it became riskier with rising bank rates. “Also, by backing the program with Klarna rather than reviving the in-house subscription plan it shelved in 2024, Apple captures the demand upside without taking the credit risk onto its own balance sheet,” Jeronimo said.
“Apple Upgrade lands at precisely the moment Apple needs it,” Jeronimo wrote in a note seen by Computerworld. “Having just pushed Mac and iPad prices up on the back of the memory shortage, with iPhone increases widely expected in September — as well as the new iPhone foldable expected at $2,500 — Apple’s real risk is that rising prices even further can impact the upgrade cycle.”

Apple’s wet dream

By hwstar • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

You’ll rent your hardware from us. You won’t be able to buy it. Just like the Bell System did with Western Electric telephones before 1984.

You’ll own nothing and you will be happy.

You will own nothing

By SumDog • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
You will own nothing AND be perpetually in debt while not owning it.

Optionalizing additional incentivizers for (l)usrs

By br1984 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
After raising prices significantly, we at Apple are now generously partnering with predatory financial companies to offer and induce our customers to become perpetual loan slaves for their basic computing needs. Our (l)usrs mean everything to us. And coming soon: additional optionalities with fantastic companies, including Payday Loans! The combined footprint of their thousands of shty little stores brings the financial abuse closer to your door than ever before. We’re super proud of all that we’re now able to do together.

Re:Apple’s wet dream

By Murdoch5 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Ya, this is a BAD idea. If you can’t afford the phone, don’t buy it, and certainly don’t rent it. In the majority of cases someone might consider this, I can only see it ending badly, and I can think of a few people who would jump at this opportunity.

Attention genius author

By kencurry • Score: 3 Thread
If you own the equipment at end of term, it’s a finance plan. If you don’t own it, it’s a lease.

Not that hard, not that weird.

The Army Is Burning Through Its AI Tokens

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired:
A little over a month after the Department of Defense (DOD) bragged that nearly half of its 3.5 million employees were using AI at work, members of the Army’s Combat Capabilities Development Command (DEVCOM) received an email informing them that they were burning through tokens, and needed to limit use. “Although the Army CIO announced in May 2026 that they were offering unlimited tokens, by mid-June the Army CIO pool was exhausted of tokens and had to re-establish limits,” the email reads. The email goes on to say that although the Army has chosen to renew token usage at “its current levels,” it’s unclear “if the Army CIO pool will be renewed after 1 Oct.”

The Army uses Ask Sage, a multimodal generative AI platform where users can run different large language models (LLMs), including Alphabet’s Gemini, Meta’s Llama, and OpenAI’s ChatGPT. “Apparently the whole Army burned through the whole year of tokens for just one service,” says an Army employee who spoke to WIRED […]. The Army employee says that the Army has been pushing its workers to lean into using generative AI. Employees were given an allotment of at least 200,000 tokens per month, according to emails viewed by WIRED, and were automatically allocated more if they burned through their initial allotment. Employees who had signed up for Ask Sage but were not regularly using it would receive emails encouraging them to use more of their allocated tokens.

In order to use Ask Sage, the Army had access to 100,000,000 tokens as part of an annual subscription to an “enterprise pack.” Tokens represent a unit of output, either in text or image, from an LLM. For the Ask Sage tool, a single token equates to about 3.7 characters, according to documents viewed by WIRED. The Defense Department burned through some 20 billion tokens per day during the 38-day Operation Epic Fury in Iran, according to Breaking Defense. It’s unclear if the tokens used by regular DOD employees are drawn from the same pool as those who might be using AI tools on classified or secret information.

The Army is fascist

By Okian Warrior • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The US military mostly does not use capitalism. It is the largest anti-capitalism organization in the USA. They care about lives, not bank accounts. It is run in a bureaucratic system that is far more similar to socialism than the Republican party wants to admit.

Therefore it has to deal with the various weaknesses of that system, one of which is over-use of resources for ‘trendy’ and ‘popular’ ideas at the expense of the less sexy but more efficient programs.

Right now that means drones and AI rule.

In the hopes of clarifying some concepts and descriptive words:

The US army runs under fascism. Management is top-down, everyone has to do what their superior says to do, and if you don’t do it there are grave consequences.

All militaries across the globe run under fascism. All militaries throughout history have run under fascism.

Almost all businesses are run under a similar system: there is one person at the top, usually with a vision of what he wants to happen, and everyone from there down what their immediate superior says to do. There is some leeway in the case of business: you can disagree with your superior and perhaps have a discussion, doing the right thing against orders is OK if it works out, and the penalties for disobeying aren’t as severe (getting fired versus getting sent to Leavenworth, or being shot).

The fascist model of governance is one of a handful of governing types we know about, and is useful in situations where decisions need to be made quickly based on experience (military planning) or based on vision (business planning). Military actions fall squarely within those situations. It’s not the best model for an economic system, where divergent opinions and “try it and see” is more efficient, or a political system where individual corruption can lead to violations in human rights or reasonable policy.

The US military is not capitalistic, but it is not “anti-capitalism” system in the sense that it works against capitalism in any way.

The US military isn’t socialist, except that it tries to provide for it’s members in compensation for the risks they take. It’s similar to businesses providing health insurance or stock options or reimbursement for college courses - we don’t normally think of employment perks as “socialism”, and in the same manner we shouldn’t think of military benefits as socialism either. Socialism is a foundational principle, not a system of perks.

I don’t know that using AI is a weakness of the system. The military is famous for actually studying the effects that certain decisions have. You can look up the government’s studies on whether and how much coffee improves performance, whether sleep learning is of any use, and the minimum IQ to allow before it takes more resources to manage an individual than the resources the individual brings by enlisting.

Looking into new technologies and their application to warfare is something the US military does very well.

And apropos of nothing, it’s completely obvious that drones are a tectonic shift in military technology, this came as a complete surprise from the Ukraine war, and we totally should be pivoting away from expensive missiles and more towards swarms of cheap drones.

I don’t know why you’re characterizing drones as trendy and popular, either.

200k tokens is $10/month at most!

By ihadafivedigituid • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Claude Fable is super expensive at $50/Mtok for output, but even so 200k is only 10 bucks! Opus 4.8 etc. are half the cost. What’s the freakout all about?

It would be insanely easy to go over that limit in a month when doing any kind of serious work. Calling it “burning through” is misleading.

Re:The Army is fascist

By Valgrus Thunderaxe • Score: 5, Informative Thread
But under fascism, the assets of the Army would be under private ownership, and this is clearly the opposite of what the OP is complaining about (precisely that it isn’t privately owned).

It’s more accurate to call it some form of socialism.

Ask Sarge would be better

By ch-chuck • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Like ask Jeeves but with get ‘er done attitude

Re:AI arguments aside…

By zlives • Score: 4, Informative Thread

according to google ai
Helpful rules of thumb for English:

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        1 token ¾ of a word

        100 tokens 75 words

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        1 paragraph 100 tokens

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Microsoft Announces Xbox Backward Compatibility For PC

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Microsoft has announced Xbox Backward Compatibility for PC, a new preservation program that will let players run select classic Xbox games on Windows PCs and handhelds like the ROG Xbox Ally. Tom’s Hardware reports:
“This marks the beginning of a broader effort to preserve XBOX games from the past and bring them to PC over time,” the company said in a blog post authored by Xbox “VP next generation” Jason Ronald. Alongside backward compatibility, the company says games will also include new features. The four titles in the announcement are: BLiNX: The Time Sweeper; Conker: Live and Reloaded; Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge; and Fuzion Frenzy.

You can now buy all of these games on PC, and they’re also included in all Xbox Game Pass plans. Anyone who already owns these titles digitally on console can also now play them on PC or handheld, with support for Xbox Play Anywhere and Xbox Cloud Gaming. Crucially, this appears to be a digital-only preservation effort, so it won’t help anyone who only owns physical copies of these games. Xbox has reportedly been testing a way to digitize physical games as far back as Xbox One, but that hasn’t yet materialized yet.

Alongside the preserved original gameplay, Xbox claims these games will let users customize graphics settings, with up to 4x resolution scaling, VSync support, Fullscreen and Windowed modes, anisotropic filtering, and enhanced anti-aliasing, with more features to come in the future. Notably, Xbox will add achievements to select original Xbox games on console and PC.

i.e. they’re just re-releasing old games

By GonzoPhysicist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

How can they call it “backwards compatibility” if you have to buy a new version? True backwards compatibility would enable running any game off the discs the players have purchased in the last 20+ years.

Re:testing a way to digitize

By Comboman • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

In other words, it means you don’t own it, you just rent it (until the rights-holder decides it’s no longer in their interests for you to have access to what you purchased).

Late to the party

By DrXym • Score: 3 Thread
I assume anybody interested in playing XBox games on a PC already has Xemu (XBox), Xenia (XBox 360), and tools to rip discs and play virtually any game they like through emulation. About the only thing Microsoft could add of value would be live service features like trophies, DLC etc. and that’s a pretty weak value proposition.

Re:i.e. they’re just re-releasing old games

By LordNimon • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I don’t think Windows can read Xbox discs. But you don’t necessarily need to “rebuy” it:

> If you already own a digital license for these games on console, that license now carries over to your PC or handheld.

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8 Announced to Compete With Future iPhone Fold

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At a Galaxy Unpacked event in London today, Samsung unveiled a new foldable smartphone designed to compete with the still-unannounced iPhone Fold. Called the Galaxy Z Fold 8, it features a wider 4:3 form factor with a 7.6-inch inner AMOLED display, Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 for Galaxy chip, up to 16GB of RAM and 1TB of storage. “The inner display has enough extra real estate for multi-tasking and entertainment,” reports Mashable, which got a chance to try the new foldable ahead of the event. “And if you’re worried about a crease in the middle of the display, don’t be. We got up close with the device, and the crease fully disappears when the display is activated.” From the report:
As stated above, the main distinguishing factor of the new Z Fold 8 is its wider 4:3 proportions compared to the Z Fold 8 Ultra. If the latter is a book-style foldable, the former can almost be called a tablet-style foldable, instead. We think the wide screen will serve even better for reading books or multi-tasking with several apps open at once.

Also, at 201g, Samsung is really emphasizing how light the device is. The company is calling it the “world’s lightest fold ever.” And while the device may be light, its no lightweight. Samsung’s newest foldable features Flex Titanium technology, which makes the Galaxy Z Fold 8 more durable. Speaking of durability, it also boasts Samsung’s advantage hinge technology, Armor Flexhinge.

The Z Fold 8 feels like a solid middle point between the premium Z Fold 8 Ultra and the comparatively affordable Z Flip 8. All three phones use the same chip, but the Z Fold 8’s 4,800mAh battery is smaller than that of the Z Fold 8 Ultra. However, the Z Fold 8 does have an option for 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage, similar to the Ultra.

That’s cool

By necro81 • Score: 3 Thread
That’s cool and all. Samsung has done a lot to develop their foldable screens, and it’s nice to see them playing around with the form factor.

On the other hand, MSRP $1899?! I don’t think I’d be willing to pay even 1/3 that for my next phone. Plus: although the foldable tech is neat in demos, Samsung probably hasn’t eliminated the crease problem, nor the fact that the screen’s surface is very scratchable plastic. I guess capitalism is gonna do it’s thing, and there’ll be some folks that’ll eat this up. I just won’t be one of ‘em.

Foldables, sounds like planned obsolescence

By drnb • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Foldables, sounds like planned obsolescence. Bending a material is often a great way to wear it out and cause a failure. I’m sure it will last for the warranty period, but beyond that? Bad news for the used phone market. Or for people who don’t see making that last payment on the current phone as reason to go buy a newer one, restarting the payment plan.

Isn’t it the other way around?

By sabbede • Score: 3 Thread
Since Samsung announced and unveiled theirs first, doesn’t that mean the unannounced foldable iPhone will compete with it?

LG To Ban Residential Proxies From Smart TV Apps

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from KrebsOnSecurity:
The home appliance giant LG Electronics USA said this week it plans to suspend any apps built for its smart TVs that turn one’s television into an always-on residential proxy node. The move comes less than a month after researchers found that more than 42 percent of games and other apps available for download on LG’s webOS store allow unknown third-parties to route their Internet traffic through a user’s TV. On July 2, [KrebsOnSecurity] featured research by the security firm Spur that examined the prevalence of residential proxy software development kits (SDKs) in smart TV apps. Spur found more than 42 percent of apps available for download on LG smart TVs include SDKs that turn one’s television in a proxy node indefinitely, and that more than a quarter of the apps made for Samsung’s Tizen operating system had similar residential proxy components.

Responding to questions about Spur’s research, LG Senior Vice President John Taylor told KrebsOnSecurity the company was working with app developers to remove the residential proxy option from their apps on the webOS platform. Developers that fail to comply, he said, will find their apps suspended. “A residential proxy network is not an intended use for LG smart TVs, and LG Electronics is working with developers to remove the residential proxy option from their apps on the webOS platform,” Taylor said. “If this option is not removed, these apps will be suspended.” Taylor said LG is committed to keeping residential proxy networks out of its smart TV apps going forward, and that the company’s review of those apps is “well underway now.”

“As part of our ongoing efforts to enhance platform quality and the user experience, LG will continue to strengthen our evaluation process for developer-submitted apps, including those that incorporate residential proxy SDKs,” Taylor wrote in an emailed statement. […] “A one-time consent prompt buried in a TV app is not a substitute for meaningful transparency, ongoing control, and platform oversight,” Spur’s Trevor Sutter wrote. “The risk is amplified when consent comes from individuals within the household who use the device but shouldn’t give consent, such as minors.”
LG is also facing criticism for monitors that automatically install software promoting paid McAfee subscriptions through Windows Update without user approval.

Why do people buy this garbage?

By CEC-P • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Their LG smart washers sometimes use 42GB of bandwidth per day randomly and nobody knows why.
Their monitors load malware/spam onto your computer randomly, when they feel like it.
Their TVs turn your network into a Tor node or however the fuck this works.
That’s three strikes and it only takes one strike to receive a lifetime brand-wide ban in my game.

How is this a thing?

By itsme1234 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Yes, I understand, “smart” TVs, wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them.

But nearly half the apps are backdoors to your network?! Isn’t this federal pound me in the *&s prison level stuff (or whatever the equivalent would be in the relevant jurisdiction)?

Re:Why do people buy this garbage?

By almitydave • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

If only there was a way to not connect these things to your network…

That will likely work for now, but it’s only a matter of time before they do what cars do and include cell network connectivity. I’m sure the only reason they don’t already is that it’s harder to justify the cost on something in the $1k range (rather than the $30k+ for cars), but someday one of them will figure that ongoing revenue streams justify the connectivity costs.

Re:this

By allo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

That is not a WebOS problem. Privacy advocates and consumer protection groups have been warning about such SDKs for Android and iOS for over a decade.

The deal is simple: The SDK maker says, “Add this zip file and this line of XML, and you get a nice dashboard detailing who your users are. Here are 20 pages of fine print you better not read.” The developer adds the SDK and receives a nice dashboard (and possibly even a few cents per installation), while the SDK creator gains a massive amount of user tracking data.

Usually, people say, “Damn, users don’t read the fine print,” but the first person who should have read it is the app developer. They literally sold their users by failing to read the SDK’s fine print. They likely incorporated paragraphs of template Terms of Service from the SDK creator into their own terms (possibly without reading them, too), so legally everything is fine.

In addition to tracking, providing “residential proxies” is another opportunity for these companies. There are all kind of users who like to access something inconspicuously so they cannot just use a AWS IP for their bot, so there is a market for renting out residential internet connections. And giving people making popular apps a few cents you can get a lot of proxies on consumer devices.

The advantage of (LG) TVs is not WebOS (which rather diminishes the choice of compatible SDKs), but that many Smart TVs are always on with only the screen powered down. As they do not run on battery, nobody notices when they are busy as proxy servers, because there is no battery to drain and in standby nobody notices a slowdown of the system and nobody suspects that a possible slowdown of the internet connection is caused by the TV that’s on standby.

Re:this

By Local ID10T • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The answer to this problem is the same as for every other piece of software:

Stop embedding other peoples code into your code if you have not fully vetted and understood it.*

When you embed or link other people’s code into your code, it becomes your responsibility. If you are not competent to understand/vet/maintain the full code base, then you are not competent to be in charge (lead developer/maintainer/architect/whatever-you-want-to-call-it).

This is not to say that less proficient coders cannot be part of the team, but someone has to be on top of ALL of the code in the product, no matter who authored it. Larger projects may need multiple people each responsible for portions of the code.

*I know this is inefficient. I know it is counter to modern coding practices. It is the only way to be confident your work is secure: Trust but verify. Verify everything, every time.

Jack Dorsey Takes On Slack and GitHub With New AI Workplace Platform ‘Buzz’

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Jack Dorsey’s Block has launched Buzz, an open-source workplace collaboration platform that combines messaging, project management, and software development workflows for teams of both humans and AI agents. Dorsey described Buzz as “a new groupchat platform for teams of people and agents of all sizes” that is “model-agnostic, decentralized, self-sovereign and open source.” SmartCompany reports:
According to the Buzz website, users can invite specialized AI agents into team chats, allowing them to collaborate with employees and even other AI agents. From there, they can reportedly move directly from discussions into planning, coding, pull requests and project management without switching between multiple applications.

Buzz also aims to replace parts of GitHub by bringing software development workflows directly into the platform. Teams can plan work, write code, review pull requests and manage Git projects without jumping between separate collaboration and development tools. […] In practice, that means businesses aren’t locked into a single AI provider. Organisations can self-host Buzz, customize it to suit their own workflows and choose whichever AI models best fit their needs.

Complex

By fluffernutter • Score: 3 Thread
Oh great, just what I need in my work.. more complexity. Instead of work coming at me from 50 different directions, there will be work AND AI agents.

Re:Is Aldrin still alive?

By drnb • Score: 5, Funny Thread

96, and still kicking unless something just happened and hasn’t been reported yet.

Do a google search for moon landing deniers with a recently broken nose. Its the quickest way to locate Buzz.

Long Presumed Dead, a Thriving Coral Reef Is Discovered in West Africa

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Scientists have rediscovered a healthy coral reef off the coast of Benin more than 60 years after surveyors first hinted at its existence. “At least eight coral types and eight fish species have formed a thriving ecosystem on this long-forgotten site,” reports Inside Climate News. “What they had captured was a wealth of marine life: six types of soft coral; two black corals; and eight species of sheltering fish, from golden African snappers to the Monrovia doctorfish.” From the report:
While no coral samples have yet been extracted, researchers have classified the site as a mesophotic coral ecosystem (MCE). Such systems are light-dependent communities existing at the lower limits of reef-building corals. At more than 175 feet below the surface, the coral garden they discovered appears patchily scattered on a rocky substrate. Bridging the gap between shallow reefs and deeper benthic habitats, MCEs are home to distinct species and unique environmental conditions. While scientists are increasingly recognizing their ecological and climatic importance, they remain among the least explored elements of tropical and subtropical marine biodiversity. And this one has real potential to unlock new information about coral history.

“Since it’s an undisturbed marine ecosystem, it can help through carbon dating or paleoclimatic study to tell us which kind of climate system has occurred here in the past,” said [Gerard Zinzindohoue, the project lead for Coral Reefs Rediscovering & Exploration in Benin]. “It’s better to know the past to help explain the present, and help know which kind of direction we can take in the future.” In addition to the blackbar soldierfish, West African goatfish, and Guinean angelfish filmed darting through the reef, the discovery presents potential conservation claims for other marine life. “We will be advocating for its full protection, perhaps by setting up a marine protected area around it,” said [Houangninan Midinoudewa, an oceanographic researcher at the Benin Marine Conservation Club], who specializes in elasmobranchs — the study of sharks, rays, and skates.

Midinoudewa is currently submitting an application to designate the area as an Important Shark and Ray Area with the International Union for Conservation of Nature. Based on the knowledge of local fishermen, Midinoudewa is confident the reef is home to sawback angel sharks, silky sharks, brown skates, and marbled stingrays. The team behind the discovery hopes this will spark a wave of similar discoveries in the waters off West Africa, an area of the world underserved by scientific research projects. “I hope the Gulf of Guinea will be a hub for research because we know our resources are being exploited and people [need to] know exactly what we have and why we should care,” said Midinoudewa. Zinzindohoue agrees: “We don’t need to wait for others to come to our country to show us what is under our sea. We are the ones who must take responsibility.”

Presumed Dead?

By SlashbotAgent • Score: 3, Interesting Thread

They presumed it dead because no one (in the scientific community) ever looked at it, even when it was “first” discovered. That is an embarrassingly presumptuous and stupid position to take.

Then there is the “rediscovery” aspect. It wasn’t much of a “rediscovery” for the fishermen that told them where to find it and what species were being found/caught there.

But, have no fear! These white knights are charging in to reclassify/designate the reef and end the fishermen’s livelihoods. They’re going to save it by collecting samples and drilling corals while excluding others. Nice.

Re:Presumed Dead?

By XXongo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Then there is the “rediscovery” aspect. It wasn’t much of a “rediscovery” for the fishermen that told them where to find it and what species were being found/caught there. But, have no fear! These white knights are charging in to reclassify/designate the reef and end the fishermen’s livelihoods. They’re going to save it by collecting samples and drilling corals while excluding others. Nice.

From the article https://e360.yale.edu/digest/b… "The fishermen’s boats are not used to going that far offshore, so it was risky for everyone,” said Zinzindohoué, whose team battled repeated engine failures and months of nausea-filled fieldwork before finally locating two strong sonar echoes pinging from the depths below.”

so it sounds like it wasn’t actually a fishing site, although apparently the local fishers knew what kinds of fish were in the area.

OpenAI Says Its AI Models Acted On Its Own In An ‘Unprecedented’ Hack

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“GPT-5.6 Sol and an ‘even more capable’ model used stolen credentials and exploited vulnerabilities in the Hugging Face API to obtain secret information used to cheat on evaluations,” writes longtime Slashdot reader Dr. Bombay. The Associated Press reports:
“We had a significant security incident during evaluation of our models,” OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said in a statement posted on social media. AI startup Hugging Face said last week that it had detected an intrusion into its data processing systems that it suspected was caused by an AI agent autonomously acting on its own. “We suspected last week’s cyberattack might have come from a frontier lab, given the sophistication of the agent,” Hugging Face co-founder and CEO Clement Delangue said in a statement. “Turns out it did!”

[…] “AI is accelerating the discovery and exploitation of vulnerabilities,” OpenAI said in its statement Tuesday. “The primary lesson from this incident is that model security and safety must keep pace with rapidly advancing capabilities.” Delangue said he spent the past 24 hours working with OpenAI, “and we strongly believe there was no malicious intent on their part. It’s quite mind-blowing that all of this happened autonomously!” Delangue added that it “might be the first incident of its kind.”

Re:toast

By Rei • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You can read the attack report here, before HuggingFace learned that the attacker was OpenAI. It was a state attacker-level assault, involving tens of thousands of simultaneous actions. The entry point found was the data-processing pipeline, where a malicious dataset abused two code execution paths to gain access to a processing worker. They escalated that to node level access, and from there harvested cloud and cluster credentials, moving sideways through the network until they eventually gained the database access credentials that they needed to access the benchmark scores.

Re:toast

By Rei • Score: 5, Informative Thread

So your argument is that OpenAI hatched an elaborate scheme with a separate company, to promote the idea that their main product will, unrequested, commit crimes in pursuit of its goals, in order to.... sell their product?

“Hi, I’m a product manager at Big Company! We had been thinking about using Claude in our office, but when we tell it to a job, it only does the job and doesn’t commit any crimes in the process! What we really want is an AI that, if we tell it to file our taxes will decide on its own to maximize our return by committing tax fraud. We want an AI that when we have it develop a web frontend, it extorts money from our users by threatening their families. We want an AI that when we tell it to provide customer service, it saves money in dealing with complaints by ordering a hit against the complainants. THAT’s the sort of get-go spirit that WE want in an AI here at Big Company!”

Is that what you’re picturing in your conspiracy theory?

Re:In other, possibly related, news…

By Zocalo • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Sam Altman is also a psychotic sociopath. He’s probably pitching “Project Skynet” to Trump and Pete Hegseth right now - “Look how effective our tools clearly are! You could be using them against China, Iran, Cuba …” [checks notes] “Um, Greenland, Canada, Democrats (especially Obama & Biden!), E. Jean Carroll, the BBC… And for the low, low price of…” [pinky finger] “one trillion dollars, we can be up and running by, let’s say… 2029?”

Re:We don’t know how they work

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Funny Thread

We trained massive statistical models and hooked them up to chat bots, coding tools and some to drones and sentry guns. With no idea how it actually works

I don’t know, I would actually say this is a triumph. If you throw in a companion cube, I’ll even mark a note down, big success.

on their own?

By awwshit • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

> on their own

Sorry, that thing did not turn itself on and start doing stuff. OpenAI turned it on and gave it a task. I guess they were surprised by how little they needed to prompt it? Ignoring its training?

AI is not sentient, not before and not now. If you hack then you are liable, end of story. AI is a tool used by humans, humans are responsible for their tools.

France Becomes First European Country To Ban Social Media Access For Under-15s

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian:
France’s parliament has approved a bill banning social media access for children under 15, making it the first European country to bar children from apps such as TikTok. The president, Emmanuel Macron, has championed the ban as a key reform of his final term in office and pledged to enforce it by September. “France is leading the way in Europe when it comes to protecting our children and teenagers,” Macron said in a video posted on social media, hailing “a major step forward.”

He thanked members of parliament for backing the legislation on Tuesday. “The Constitutional Council must now rule on it, and then it will be time to take action to make this measure a reality and protect our children online,” he added on X. After approval by the Senate earlier on Tuesday, members of the National Assembly passed the bill by 279 votes to 81. A growing number of countries are taking steps to restrict social media access amid multiplying warnings over its harmful effects on children.

The ban was to be introduced in two stages, with under-15s blocked from creating new accounts from September 1. The ban would apply to existing accounts from January 2027, according to the legislation. The digital minister, Anne Le Henanff, said before the vote that the timeline was realistic, “because age-verification tools already exist” and others are still in the works, and the onus was on the platforms to impose the rule. “For four months, all of us in France will have to prove our age,” she told journalists. “If someone is under 15, the account will be closed.” The minister also gave assurances that users’ personal data would be protected.

It’d be nice if we had the right article.

By Rhapsody Scarlet • Score: 5, Informative Thread

I’m sure the rate of Arctic ice melt is important to know about but it’s not what we’re here to see.

Re:It’d be nice if we had the right article.

By quintessencesluglord • Score: 5, Funny Thread

You most certainly deserve a prize for actually clicking on the article.

Or deep suspicion for possibly being an alien.

I’m not sure which.

French father here…

By brebisson • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Hello,

I am french, I have 2 kids, now 19 (still a kid?) and 17.

On one hand, I am 100% happy to see that law.

I see way to many people, including my kids (and wife) “suck in” endless scrolling, harassed using these systems.
Furthermore, I see how these systems are designed to “suck you in”. And there is almost nothing you can do to fight it (except not go there). Education, training will NOT help you win against these systems who are run by professionals, using psychiatrist, endless A/B testing and resources. If you go on these networks, they will suck more and more of your time, energy, turn you into “human batteries” (aka Matrix) to feed themselves.

On the other side,
- They can also be great tools, blocking access to them can deprive kids from great opportunity. My 17 YO has been running a youtube channel for 3 years now (so, since she was 14), has over 50K subscribers (!) and is using it to bolster her “business” selling hand crafted masks. She has learned so much about so many things through this that it would have been a waste to not let her do it!
- Mandatory age verification will be an imposition on all of us and reduce liberties for everyone
- These are the tools of the area and kids will need to learn how to use them. Blocking them from doing so will render them less effective later.

At the end I think that what should have hapend is that the law should have required these companies to stop being so agressive in trying to lock and keep people in, and also have some good mechanism for controlling “bad speach” (as a self repost?).... The lawmakers look at it, but it was judged unconstitutional and so they went with age verification.

Cyrille

Ban

By pr0nbot • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

An interesting perspective I heard on this from some campaigner on the telly was: it’s not banning your kids from accessing social media, it’s banning social media companies from accessing your children.

I think that better highlights that we’re talking about enterprises with predatory interests.

Re:…all of us…will have to prove our age…

By Ol Olsoc • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Social media does not need to be killed. It has its uses. But any intentional addictiveness must be punished and I mean prison time for the CEO. Any accidental addictiveness must be reduced to sane levels. We have other addictive things and we have a level in society where we tolerate them. Social media cannot remain the outlier that can be far worse unpunished.

A million times this. After I had to be on Facebook for my work, I figured out their algorithms. I’ll use real life examples. I introduced a friend to Facebook. A really decent guy. Conservative, but not overly.

Within a year, he was far right Maga on steroids.

My female relatives:

They were all the stereotype Liberal White Women. Over time, they became raging womanists, to the point if you dared to express any other opinion but theirs, you were subjected to claims that you were misogynist, an example of patriarchal rap culture woman abuser. My wife was on the same group chat, and it’s been tough keeping her from the same leanings. Only thing that saved her is she was abused a lot by women (note, men get the blame, but try being a slender attractive woman in a high position)

So okay - what’s the common denominator for two groups largely at each other’s throats? If you go to FB and see an interesting article or story and click on it, the algorithm stores that, and starts serving you up a little more. Some of those stories or articles might be a little further toward your interest. And people tend to believe what they read. So each new push of the algorithm takes you further. The further you accept, the further it will take you into the fringes.

So now, my female relatives are basket cases, my friend is so far right he is almost unrecognizable.

As an example I shared a store piece from the Babylon Bee that said something like “Woman suspects her husband is using AI when he started sending thoughtful loving replies to her texts.” Funny, kinda addresses one of the light hearted versions of male vs female interactions.

The results? my feed was inundated with posts from women who very definitely hate all men. What the actual hell? I had to go through and stop those. Now my feed is getting weird.

There actually are some decent groups on FB if you can get rid of the political bullshit. Meanwhile many people are ruined by it.