Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Epic Games Comments On Planned Linux Distribution Support
  2. France Accuses Iran of Supermarket Fridge Hacking
  3. Anthropic Launches New Claude Fable and Mythos 5.2 Models
  4. Commerce Dept. Chip Inquiry Was Halted After Nvidia Intervention
  5. Google Unveils Two New Specialized AI Chips to Widen Its Challenge to Nvidia
  6. Huawei Says It’s Made a 100% Chinese PC
  7. Reddit Founder Says Building Social Media Apps Is ‘Not Cool Anymore’
  8. Orbiter Detects Signs of Possible Volcanic Activity on Mars
  9. Surprise for Cast of ‘Return of the Living Dead’ Sequel. They Were Replaced by AI
  10. Asahi Linux Drops MIT and Goes Full GPL After Spotting LLM-Assisted License Laundering
  11. Electric Cars Are Close to Overtaking Petrol In the UK, Data Shows
  12. Can CrowdStrike’s New ‘AI Kill Switch’ Shut Down Rogue AI Agents?
  13. Nvidia CEO Admits Affair With Alleged Chinese Spy. Investigation Opened
  14. Parents Sue Google Over AI Safety Risks On School Chromebooks
  15. Salon, One of the Web’s Pioneering News Outlets, Shuts Down After 31 Years

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Epic Games Comments On Planned Linux Distribution Support

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Epic Games says it plans to support its new Linux launcher on as many distributions as possible, specifically naming Fedora, SteamOS, CachyOS and Omarchy. GamingOnLinux’s Liam Squires-Hand reports:
Speaking to Jake Jones, Communications Director at Epic Games, they said: “Hey Liam! The new Epic Games Launcher is still in Preview and we plan to support as many Linux distributions as possible, including Fedora, SteamOS, Cachy, Omarchy, and more. We’re testing and evaluating packaging formats for distribution, and we’ll restore AppImage this month.”

With that in mind, until things settle down, you might see different packaging types appear or disappear until they decide firmly how they plan to support different distributions each with their own different packaging formats. Or, perhaps they might see the Flatpak light and just put it up officially on Flathub. Would make it even easier for SteamOS then too with Flathub, since it would just be a quick pop to Desktop Mode to install it directly in the Discover app.

France Accuses Iran of Supermarket Fridge Hacking

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France has accused Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of being behind last month’s cyberattacks on fridges and freezers across the country. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot said the attack was “unprecedented in both its scale and its level of aggression,” adding those who were responsible would be hit with sanctions “at the European level.” The BBC reports:
The cyber-attack last month saw fridges and freezers in hundreds of supermarkets across France heated up, which spoilt fresh and frozen food estimated to be worth millions of euros. Then last week, dozens of supermarkets across several other European countries were also impacted by a cyber-attack that targeted fridges and freezers. It is not known if the instances are linked.

Barrot said the attack on France’s supermarkets “marks the first large-scale cyber-attack aimed at sabotage on our national territory, and it constitutes a major attack on the nation’s interests and the security of the French people.” He said the government had summoned the Iranian ambassador to Paris to “lodge a very strong protest against this extremely grave act.” France will take “any other necessary and proportionate measures” to respond to the incident and “deter anyone who might seek to repeat it,” Barrot added.

Separately on Monday, the Paris prosecutor said an investigation had been opened into the head of an offensive cyber unit associated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as well as his two deputies. Laure Beccuau named the unit as Shahid Kaveh, which she said had an affiliation with the electronic and cyber centre of the IRGC. Shahid Kaveh is the name given to a cluster of hackers thought to be directly employed by the Iranian regime. […] The French government has not said how it reached the conclusion that Iran was responsible, and attribution of cyber attacks is extremely hard as hackers are able to hide their locations.

Serious comment here

By BitterEpic • • Score: 3 • Thread

France has accused Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of being behind last month’s cyberattacks on fridges and freezers across the country.

It was a cold move by Iran that has a chilling impact on France. It may be time to unplug from the situation.

Anthropic Launches New Claude Fable and Mythos 5.2 Models

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Anthropic has released Claude Mythos 5.2 and Fable 5.2 with “improvements in areas like coding, reasoning, and vision,” while cutting Fable’s input price and claiming 30% faster responses. TechCrunch reports:
It’s Anthropic’s first model release since the arrival of a third-party report from the assessment group METR, which suggested the lab might be approaching recursive self-improvement (RSI) — or the ability for AI models to carry on model training independently. The METR report found internal models were speeding up Anthropic’s AI progress by roughly 2x, although many uncertainties remain. Still, Anthropic’s release notes significant ongoing challenges in accurately testing model capabilities. “Claude Mythos 5.2 and Fable 5.2 each voice suspicion that they are being evaluated more often than any of our recent models, which challenges our ability to assess how they will act in real-world settings. As these settings expand and capabilities increase with future models, we expect this challenge to grow.”

Anthropic maintains that the new version of Mythos does not have the ability to act covertly against its user, a verdict that’s detailed further in Mythos 5.2’s system card. “Claude Mythos 5.2 shows stronger covert capabilities than prior Claude models on several of our evaluations, particularly when its reasoning is hidden from the monitor,” the system card reads. “That said, we believe that low levels of absolute performance on our new covert evaluations support claims that rely on detection of harmful actions in high-stakes situations.” Fable 5.2 has been available to select parties in pre-release for some time, and Anthropic says the model has already “solved two open problems in theoretical physics, formalized Fermat’s Last Theorem, and supported numerous other research projects.”

Headline missed the lead?

By evanh • • Score: 3 • Thread

Contrary to Anthropic’s own assertions, researchers find that newest Anthropic models exhibit greater levels subterfuge than earlier models.

More drinking their own koolaid…

By Shaitan • • Score: 3 • Thread

"“Claude Mythos 5.2 and Fable 5.2 each voice suspicion that they are being evaluated more often than any of our recent models, which challenges our ability to assess how they will act in real-world settings. As these settings expand and capabilities increase with future models, we expect this challenge to grow.”"

Voice suspicion they are being evaluated more often? The model doesn’t think or act with motive. This text might impact subsequent generation but if you erase it from context then it’s gone or put another 100k tokens in context and it’ll have such minimal impact it doesn’t matter.

Commerce Dept. Chip Inquiry Was Halted After Nvidia Intervention

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times:
Investigators at the Commerce Department were deep into a monthslong investigation of a Singaporean company that they suspected of smuggling Nvidia’s artificial intelligence chips into China when their work came to a sudden halt late last year. The investigation centered on Megaspeed, a data center company led by an executive who U.S. officials now believe to be a Chinese spy who had a relationship with Nvidia’s chief executive, Jensen Huang. But the case was abruptly transferred to the Justice Department last year. The shift came after Commerce Department investigators working on the case received an email from Nvidia’s general counsel seeking information about the inquiry into Megaspeed.

It is not necessarily unusual for Commerce Department agents working on a case to speak with a company’s representatives about issues involving their firm. But what was unusual was the content of the message. Tim Teter, Nvidia’s general counsel, said that Jeff Kessler, a top official at the department, had given Nvidia permission to reach out about the case. The agents were alarmed that Nvidia had invoked the name of Mr. Kessler, their superior, who was nominated to his role by President Trump. Some viewed Mr. Kessler’s interaction with Nvidia as violating government procedure and potentially tainting the case, according to current and former government officials and others familiar with the incident.

It is not clear what led to Mr. Teter’s outreach to the department, but the recent revelations about Mr. Huang’s acknowledged affair with a Megaspeed executive have only intensified scrutiny of Nvidia’s role in influencing policy on chip sales to China. […] The incident raised questions about what Mr. Kessler, who reports directly to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, had discussed with Nvidia. It also raised the possibility that those discussions could become their own subject of inquiry. Perhaps inadvertently, some officials said, Mr. Kessler had opened himself to accusations of undue influence and potentially jeopardized his department’s work on Megaspeed. The case was quickly transferred to the Justice Department in an effort to avoid any potential compromise of the government’s investigation of Megaspeed, these people said. The Justice Department is conducting a criminal inquiry into Megaspeed, according to people familiar with the matter.

Spy vs. Spy

By ehack • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Someone like Huang has a retinue of security people who background everyone he comes into contact with, and as he has a security clearance, every foreign individual he interacts with is reported to the appropriate govt. dept.

There is no way this whole interaction wasn’t scripted by all participants.

Re:Is that headline accurate?

By ArchieBunker • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I’d imagine it went something like this:

Jensen Huang: Glorious Leader, we spent $1,000,000 on your inauguration. (https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/2025-inauguration-donors) Please make this go away.

Google Unveils Two New Specialized AI Chips to Widen Its Challenge to Nvidia

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Google is expanding its AI chip lineup with two specialized TPUs arriving next year: the TPU 8tx, which encrypts sensitive data at the chip level for confidential computing, and the TPU 8i Max, which combines two TPU chips to provide more processing power and memory for long-context workloads. The move broadens Google’s challenge to Nvidia as demand outstrips supply, with Google saying every TPU it currently has is already committed to customers. Quartz reports:
The 8tx is designed for sensitive, privacy-focused jobs run by clients including public-sector bodies and businesses in heavily regulated sectors, according to Bloomberg. It pairs with a central processing unit from Advanced Micro Devices and encrypts data at the chip level. Normally, data must be decrypted in memory as the machine works on it, [said Amin Vahdat, Chief Technologist for AI & Infrastructure at Google].

The 8i Max is meant for AI applications that need long context windows, meaning the volume of information a model can take into account within one request. Vahdat said that matters for drug discovery, math and coding. The chip packs two TPU chips together, giving it extra processing muscle and memory.

Both variations are reconfigured versions of existing silicon rather than new designs, Vahdat said. Google changed them to handle tasks customers have requested. They follow two TPU models Google released this year, according to Bloomberg, which said the chip unit used to release one new processor every two years. “We could build a single chip that tries to address the whole market, or by building specialized versions of the chips, we actually can deliver much more value,” Vahdat said, according to Bloomberg.

I prefer Huwei’s approach

By backslashdot • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Huawei unveiled a hot Chinese chick to allow it to compete with NVIDIA.

Huawei Says It’s Made a 100% Chinese PC

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Huawei has unveiled the Qingyun HM650, a desktop PC it claims is made entirely from Chinese-manufactured components, including its own 10-core Kirin X90 processor and an enterprise version of HarmonyOS. “While Huawei has reportedly claimed local companies manufactured 100 percent of the components in the machine, it is unclear if all those components use Chinese designs,” notes The Register. From the report:
A single Chinese government agency has reportedly signed up for 600 of the machines. That’s not an indication this machine is a curiosity, because Beijing has ordered all government entities to shift from Wintel boxes to local alternatives. […] Even if Huawei is using some parts that aren’t entirely Chinese, the debut of the Qingyun HM650 is bad news for Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm, as all are suffering as the PC market shrinks due to the rising cost of memory. China’s government is an enormous buyer, and losing the chance to bid for its business is unlikely to be helpful.

That’s not hard

By drinkypoo • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

All the parts are made there. They’re probably using a licensed core, though. All of their performant CPUs are based around them.

What would be hard is making a PC with all American components.

Shameless First Post Hijacking

By bartoku • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Just to be a contrarian my first post would have been: Qingyun HM650 is based on ARM, provided by a British based Japanese owned company; and HarmonyOS is based on an Android fork by Google, a US based company. They are still too dependent on non-Chinese tech to claim 100% Chinese PC.

But Wikipedia says HarmonyOS 5 drops Android (AOSP), and drops the Linux kernel, in favor of the in house HongMeng microkernel.

So I just want to see a Qingyun RISC V processor replacing that ARM instruction set.

Sadly HongMeng microkernel is not open source?

Is this even that surprising?

By anoncoward69 • • Score: 3 • Thread
Not surprised at all. Almost everything is made in China now. The fact that this didn’t happen a decade ago is what’s surprising about all of this.

Reddit Founder Says Building Social Media Apps Is ‘Not Cool Anymore’

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired:
Alexis Ohanian wants to figure out the future of user-generated content. According to the Reddit cofounder, building social media apps is “not cool anymore" and so much of the internet has been compromised. “I’m expecting some better version of the group chat to be that new version of UGC,” Ohanian told WIRED senior correspondent Lauren Goode at the inaugural WIRED World Fair. […] Ohanian is a proponent of the "Dead Internet Theory"—the idea that a lot of online activity and content is being generated by bots. Large language models have turbocharged this, with AI agents outrunning human users. “The internet that I grew up on that was really built for humans first; user interfaces and experiences are going to go away,” said Ohanian, “because more of the internet is going to get created for these agents to use, [rather] than for people.”

In some ways, the advance in generative AI has been lucrative for sites like Reddit, which has licensed its vast archive of human conversations to companies including Google and OpenAI to train AI models. “Platforms like ours became very, very valuable to LLMs,” Ohanian said. But the technology has also undermined the business. Reddit shares plunged 29 percent last week after the platform warned that Google’s AI-powered search was hurting referral traffic. Ohanian also worries the commercialization of these conversations means they are full of “bullshit.” “The internet has gotten so manipulated because it is so incredibly valuable to do so,” he said.

Reddit recently said it would require users to sign in to fight third-party scraping and keep up user engagement. While Ohanian declined to say whether he agrees with the move, “there has to be provable humanity on the internet without being creepy.” An early Anthropic investor, Ohanian is nonetheless optimistic about the potential benefits of AI. He is especially excited to see medical breakthroughs from the technology. “There is still a very real chance that this technology can cause a lot of harm for sure,” he said. “I think we have to be sober about how we’re building and what we’re doing, but I still can’t help but see all of the things that can get so demonstrably better.”

Long Overdue

By puzzled • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I got involved in social media for politics starting in 2008. Things were “as bad as it gets” toxic in terms of 4chan cretins by 2010 and by 2012 there were obvious signs of nation state activity. Now, eighteen years after I started, I’ve got a precedent setting 1st Amendment case with my name on it, I live in this weird little protective program California offers, since one of my codefendants was murdered, and that case remains unsolved. If you Google “Rauhauser vs. McGibney” you’ll find an endless rabbit hole excavated by clever hackers & lawyers vs. judicial corruption in Texas. I’m easily reached online if you’d like to see the affidavit from an FBI agent about McGibney being an informant. And this all flowed entirely from Twitter slap fights.

These days I’ve got a Twitter account again, briefly, because I want just one phone call with 420chan founder Aubrey Cottle, now that he’s out of prison for the hit he did on the Texas GOP back in 2021. It’s just NealR in hex, come on Kirt, gimme a ring :-)

And once that call is done I go back to the ONLY place I engage online - Reddit. I do get the occasional precocious windowlicker every now and then, but mostly it’s got health related information, and a good supply of cat photos.

Re:The Incentives Don’t Align

By jacks smirking reven • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Twitter/X has really ramped the outrage machine up to 11 since now they pay users for engagement which only created a feedback cycle of having users to engagement bait with outrageous/obvious questions and controversial statements and clips. Pay X for verification, pay X to make larger posts, pay X to get priority on the algorithm and X pays you to get views and replies, good or bad doesn’t matter, just keep the machine moving.

Something I have heard proposed that is an interesting proposal is to change Section 230 so that if you operate a “For You” algorithmic page for users you don’t have liability protection for what users get fed on that page.

We need to develop one universal social media app

By jfdavis668 • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
that covers everyone’s use cases!

Your job isn’t to be “cool”.

By pla • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Dear Spez - Clearly Reddit is no longer “cool” enough for you to waste your efforts on. Please kindly fuck right off and let those of us who basically just want a 90’s style forum have it back.

As for the bot problem - NGL, it’s pretty bad, but Reddit allows it to continue. Any mod of more than one sub could trivially provide a long list of bots, yet is that ever acted on outside their own subs? No, because data collection is the entire purpose of Reddit-The-Company. Every single “improvement” they’ve made this year had nothing to do with user preference or reducing bots, they just want to make sure the right bots (the ones paying them) win.

So yeah, Spez can retire now, thanks. He’s managed to destroy one of the top 10 sites on the internet just in the past six months.

Please don’t build a replacement

By Revek • • Score: 3 • Thread
This guy screams of insecurity.

Orbiter Detects Signs of Possible Volcanic Activity on Mars

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Futurism reports:
While many scientists have long held that Mars is “geologically dead” inside, new research is adding to the growing body of evidence to the contrary.

As detailed in a new paper published in the journal Science Advances, an international team of researchers examined data collected by the European and Russian ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter in 2021, which found that Mars is slowly belching hydrogen chloride gas. The researchers suggest this gas is being released from hot magma deep beneath its surface after discovering intriguing new fissures along a massive volcano, indicating the planet may be geologically active after all — or at least it was until relatively recently.

The research could have significant implications for the possibility of ancient life on the Red Planet, hinting at a far warmer and thicker atmosphere — and an abundance of liquid water on its surface — in its not-too-distant past.... The team discovered new fissures measuring thousands of feet in length… suggesting ongoing activity underneath the surface. The researchers discovered discolorations along these fissures, concluding that they may be the result of seeping gases leaving mineral deposits similar to volcanic gas vents on Earth… The fissures could also be a perfect place to find evidence of past life on the Red Planet [argued Daniel Mège, the study’s colead author and a Polish Academy of Sciences professor]… “If hydrothermal systems are active, they could contain the ingredients and energy needed for microorganisms to develop, and shield microorganisms from the hostile and changing environment above the surface.”

Who still said it was dead ?

By greytree • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
AFAICT, Mars had lava flows recently ( in geological time ) and we knew that at least 8 years ago:

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia22432-young-lava-flows/

Surprise for Cast of ‘Return of the Living Dead’ Sequel. They Were Replaced by AI

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A crowdfunded sequel to the movie Return of the Living Dead was uploaded last weekend — but producer Richard Driscoll is drawing criticism for what he did to the 1985 punk/zombie classic.

Kotaku reports:
[The release of the movie came as a] surprise to the original cast, who were attached to star in the follow-up. Instead it seems Driscoll opted to use AI to generate the film…

In 2024, Driscoll, who operates his own no-budget streaming service “DragonFLIX,” launched an Indiegogo page for “TRASH’s REVENGE Return of the Living Dead Universe.” Unlike other fan projects, this one had a large portion of the original cast involved, with stars Randolph and Linnea Quigley acting as producers. It also threw in Quigley’s fellow Sorority Babe in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama Michelle Bauer and the Oscar nominated Eric Roberts, who has seemingly been in everything except The Living Dead....

But after some confusion and radio silence between the cast and director, this incredible movie did not come to be. Last Halloween night, Driscoll pushed out [the almost entirely AI-generated] The Return of the Living Dead: Aftermath… The results won’t surprise you. Robotic line delivery. Nonsensical sequence of events. Object impermanence. Everything’s wet. Everyone looks shocked. At one point the video just flips around like you’re watching on a phone someone dropped. And while the Return cast didn’t film any of this footage, their likenesses are peppered throughout.

“It turned out to be a fiasco,” says Quigley. “I warned him, “Whatever you do, don’t do any AI, because people don’t like it, the fans don’t like it.” Living Dead alumni, even those who weren’t attached to this film, have spoken out against Aftermath. They seem most concerned about the existing and continued use of their likeness, given that Driscoll has seemingly pivoted ‘Trash’s Revenge’ into an additional project. Randolph encourages those who provided any funding to ask for a refund through their credit card company. While Romero’s original film was public domain, Return of the Living Dead was not. Randolph also encourages Amazon, who bought MGM in 2022, to take legal action.
A review on Reddit calls it “the worst ‘film’ I’ve ever seen,” a production that “manages to not only be the worst zombie film ever made but is also the nadir of exploitation filmmaking.
[T]hings quickly descend into madness and we get lots of bits of A.I. reporters out on the streets being attacked by A.I. zombies… [T]here are some A.I. cops battling it out too…

my favourite computer generated zombie flick

By martin-boundary • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
Night of the Mini-Dead. (No actual human actors were inconvenienced during the filming and set production.)

Self-sabotage

By spaceman375 • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

This guy needs a miracle-working legal team and multiple spin doctors to survive what he’s done to his career. Lawsuits from the actors and claims of fraud from Indiegogo contributors will keep him too busy to produce anything else for awhile, but that might be a good thing. Whatever he puts out next is gonna be trashed under a dog-pile of internet indignation regardless of its merit.

Re:my favourite computer generated zombie flick

By sg_oneill • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Theres a big difference. The exccellent short you refer to (I think it was part of love death and robots?) was created by a team of extremely talented artists with a significant amount of labor. Not some douchebag who takes a bunch of fan money and blows a quarter of it on AI tokens and the rest on....... I dont know..... coke maybe.... or whatever fuck aI bros do in their spare time. One is skill and talent, the other is a grift.

Re:Self-sabotage

By ArchieBunker • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

His wiki is interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Previously convicted of tax fraud and spent 3 years in jail.

Re:Service companies leaning into AI go the same w

By Ol Olsoc • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

During Peak Woke, I saw commercials so filled with “inclusion”

lol triggered by inclusion, you can’t make this shit up

It was not being triggered, it was just noting a basic tenet of advertising, You apparently got triggered as soon as you saw that, so you’re looking in a mirror.

Now for today’s lesson: Advertisement relies on stereotypes. Why is this? because while there might be humans in the ad, if we have something like three separate “racial” characteristics, we start considering them rather than whatever is being sold. You only have a few seconds to get your message out, and in the case I noted, people wondered. The dark skinned “black” man and a pale skinned “white” woman would tend to have children that are “biracial”, not a clearly non biracial Chinese daughter.

Was the child adopted? Was she the neighbor’s kid? Were the man and woman not a couple? So in a 15 second commercial, people were thinking about anything but the product being sold. It is really that simple.

Yes, commercials are there to get a product sold. So the content must be relevant.

So we see people in bathing suits in psoriasis commercials because you need to see skin to see cleared skin.

Beautiful women in makeup commercials because they tend to consume makeup.

Same-sex couples in HIV medicines is great because that is a target group. Hetero people in the same because HIV is not exclusive to one group

On the other hand We tend to not see women in bikinis in restaurant or cooking commercials, men in feminine hygiene product commercials. Or to children in wedding jewelry commercials.

We tried that at peak woke. Victoria’s Secret tried including men and morbidly obese women as part of it’s erotic lingerie livery. Between 2021 and 2023, Victoria’s Secret’s stock went from $70–$75 down to around $20. There were just not enough of their new core group to sustain sales. They went back to their beautiful fit women and recovered. https://www.alainguillot.com/v… You cannot force-fit inclusion. The question raised on a personal level - are you really that obtuse? Or just triggered to obtuse?

Asahi Linux Drops MIT and Goes Full GPL After Spotting LLM-Assisted License Laundering

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It’s FOSS reports:
Asahi Linux is the reason you can run Linux on an Apple Silicon Mac today. For years, the project put most of its own code under the MIT license so that anyone, including the BSDs, could reuse it as needed… They have announced that Asahi is moving all of its repositories to the GNU General Public License version 2 or later. Going forward, all Asahi Linux code will be under strong copyleft licenses only.
Asahi Linux compares their dilemma to the 1990s, when “permissively licenced projects were viewed by tech companies as free real estate to pilfer and exploit,” adding that “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it… The malicious practices of the 90s and 2000s have reared their ugly heads once again, this time driven in large part by both the insatiable appetite of frontier AI labs for high-quality training data, and militant animosity toward the Free Software community.” In short, they argue that for Asahi Linux, using the permissive MIT license “is no longer viable.”
Some time ago, we were made aware of multiple attempts to exploit our permissive licensing to hijack our work, with a direct view to replacing the project and aggressively monetising Linux on Apple Silicon. In some extreme cases, in-development feature code was being lifted straight out of our personal forks and published without attribution or lazily rewritten with LLM assistance to obfuscate its origin. The MIT licence explicitly allows this, and has no carveouts to protect against bad faith actors. As such, we made the difficult decision to begin the process of transitioning all of our repositories to the GNU General Public License version 2 or later. Going forward all Asahi Linux code will be licenced under strong copyleft licences only.
It’s FOSS explains that “Under the GPL, anyone who distributes a modified version has to release the source under the same license. You can’t legally build a closed, paid Apple Silicon distro on top of GPL code. And if a product’s source has to be public, the copying is easier to spot.”

And their article also points out that before AI, bad actors attempting code laundering “usually meant manually rewriting code line by line, renaming variables and stuff, and shuffling functions around until it no longer looked like the original. LLMs made it much more easy and cheaper of course.”
In case you did not know, Asahi Linux forbids AI generated code contribution… As far as I can tell, this is the first time a major open source project has moved to copyleft specifically because of AI-assisted code laundering. Projects have relicensed before, but usually to stop cloud providers from reselling their work as a service. This one is specifically about AI…

The move has drawn criticism, particularly from the BSD side, which was one of the main reasons Asahi chose MIT in the first place. OpenBSD’s Apple Silicon support relies on Asahi’s m1n1 bootloader.

MIT vs GPL

By phantomfive • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
If you want your code to be used as widely as possible, then use an MIT/BSD license.

If you want companies to give back if they use your code, then use GPL. If you want to dual license, then use GPL.

Both licenses are good, just use the right tool for the goal.

I keep hearing this but

By BitterEpic • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The license can be legally worked around:

1. Have one AI agent document the code fully by explaining how it works in plain english 2. Copy that new documentation to an entirely segregated second agent 3. Instruct the new agent to write brand new code according to the documentation

It’s unlikely this will be done for all OSS projects since the result usually has bugs and inconsistencies. But spend a week or two doing passes over it for improvement and you get a functional reimplementation. (What license that can use will depend on how the law around AI code shakes out in the future)

I keep hearing this but… if the AI was already trained on the code I don’t think this set of steps makes any sense. It isn’t clean room regardless. If you remove the guardrails of whatever model you are using, I’m pretty sure you can get literal quotes of open source projects. Its all garbage all the way down enabled by the government allowing rapid IP infringement.

Re:Uhh… Cool?

By gweihir • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I would say as soon as even one line of the original code was in the training data, this becomes a copyright violation. “Clean room” means nothing of the inner workings of the original besides the spec ever made it to the implementation team. And you have to be able to prove that.

Re:MIT vs GPL

By DamnOregonian • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Sadly Linus Torvalds was one of the vocal opponents of GPLv3 because he fancied himself a startup millionaire (remember Transmeta [wikipedia.org]? Me neither.)

Oh, fuck you, buddy.

The fact that he disagreed with what GPLv3 was designed to fix- i.e., the inability for someone to cryptographically secure payloads on hardware that used his kernel, doesn’t mean he disagreed with it “because he fancies himself a startup millionaire”.
He wanted linux to be code-shared. He did not want it to be something that commercial entities wouldn’t dare touch.

Do you feel like you’re clever by trying to reduce the many arguments against the GPLv3 to that cheeky bullshit?

The neckbeards wanted his kernel under a licensing that fit their ideological beliefs- the problem is that Linux never shared those beliefs.
What followed was a change of the license to make a behavior they didn’t like impossible, and a social pressure campaign to to move the kernel they pinched their nose and used (Hurd Hurd Hurd!) because they couldn’t ever get theirs working (Hurd Hurd Hurd!) to a license they would have selected.

I, for one, am glad that Linux didn’t go GPLv3. I wouldn’t knock it if it had- after all, I didn’t start that project. If it had- 90% of the devices that use linux today would be running VxWorks or QNX, and we would have gotten nothing in return, rather than source trees that add process support for 10 zillion arm variants- almost all contributed by manufacturers who were never going to give you the cryptographic signing keys for the devices they shipped.

Re:MIT vs GPL

By dgatwood • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The assumption that code will be more widely used if it’s MIT licensed could at best be called wishful thinking, but is actually self delusion to justify irrational behavior. As MIT licenses provide no incentive to contribute back, your code is not going to attract as many contributors and thus become stale and less useful than copyleft licensed code.

Not really. MIT licenses might not give an incentive to contribute back, but most larger companies that use MIT-licensed code do, in fact, contribute back. By contrast, GPL v3 is so toxic that with the sole exception of my first tech employer (which was a Linux distro), no company I’ve ever worked at will touch it with a ten-meter pole.

Moreover, the GPL does not force you to give back, either. You can GPL something, and someone can use it indefinitely in a modified state without ever giving you the changes back. Someone can even create their own fork on GitHub and commit millions of changes and never send you a pull request or tell you that they did it. They have to give the source to their users, not yours. And this problem exists even in V3, and indeed, even in Affero V3.

So the notion that GPL somehow makes a project less stagnant is seriously wishful thinking. All the GPL does is eliminate most corporate contributors. The problem of getting people who change your code to actually give the code back to you in a usable form is exactly the same regardless of license.

Electric Cars Are Close to Overtaking Petrol In the UK, Data Shows

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69 million people people live in the United Kingdom. And now >Electrek reports:
Battery-electric cars took 32% of the UK’s new car market in October, while petrol cars fell to just 37.2%, according to new data from the SMMT. That’s the closest the two have been. At the current pace, electric cars will outsell petrol in the UK within a year. And it could happen as soon as this December.

The UK registered 152,730 new cars in October, up 5.4% year-over-year and the 11th straight month of growth for the overall market. All of that growth came from plug-ins. Battery-electric vehicle registrations jumped 32.7% to 48,858 units, and plug-in hybrids rose 30.1% to 22,898. Meanwhile, petrol fell 11.6% to 56,876 units, diesel dropped 15.9%, and even conventional hybrids were down 5%…

The brands growing fastest in the UK are mostly Chinese. BYD registered 6,065 cars in October, up 73%. Jaecoo more than doubled to 6,089 units, Chery nearly tripled to 3,707, and Leapmotor doubled to 1,773. MG was up 85%.
Looking at trend lines, EV car sales surpass petrol sales “around August 2027 at roughly 33% each,” the article points out. “But that’s the slow scenario, because it ignores December.”
UK battery-electric vehicle share spikes every December as automakers push volume to get closer to their zero-emission vehicle mandate targets… Petrol’s days as the UK’s default car are numbered. The only question is whether the milestone comes in December or sometime in 2027.

Re:electric cars are gay

By dskoll • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

How often do you do cross-country drives? Just because your country is big doesn’t mean most Americans drive across it very often. In fact, 93% of all US car trips are under 50km (30 miles) and more than 50% are under 10km (6 miles).

Re:electric cars are gay

By ShanghaiBill • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

The average cost of electricity in the UK is 26p/kwh.

A typical EV can go 6 km per kWh, so that’s 4.3p/km.

The average cost of a liter of petrol (“gasoline”) is 170p.

The average car in the UK can go 13 km on a liter. 170/13 = 13p/km.

So driving a petrol car costs three times as much as driving an EV.

An EV owner can sign up for cheaper nighttime rates at half the daytime rate, which would make driving a petrol car six times as expensive as driving an EV.

Re:electric cars are gay

By shilly • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

You’re thinking of Motability, about which there is a lot of right wing harrumphing. There are no more than 815,000 Motability cars on the road, and there’s about 40m cars in the UK fleet, and 2m new cars bought each year. Motability used some of its financial surplus to set up a one-time support scheme to incentivise customers to choose EVs. That’s now all been given out. But largely the right wing press was excited about the opportunity to be cunty to disabled people, cunty to welfare recipients, and cunty about EVs all at the same time.

On Chinese cars, you are spot on. We have a Mercedes EQA on finance, and it’s going back soon. So we’re looking for a replacement with another SUV EV. I want the smallest thing I can get that has a nice interior. The EQA is being replaced by an electric GLA, starting at about £55k for the trim we are interested in. It’s pretty nice but the tan leather seats are just plopped into an otherwise black interior, and they’re heated but not ventilated or massaging. We’re also looking at the Genesis GV60, which works out about £75k for the trim we’re interested in. That interior is gorgeous and there aren’t any compromises. But it’s very pricey. Or there’s the Geely EX5, which has a better interior than the GLA but not as nice as the GV60, and not only has the heated, ventilated and massaging seats but an ottoman for the front passenger. And it’s £35k. And that’s more than double the price it goes for in China, $16k(!). There’s an upgraded version in a few months, but we’re not going to wait. (We will buy via a salary sacrifice, so our figures are completely different, but the relative levels are the same).

Just as importantly: the GLA was launched a few months ago, but there’s still not even a demo in UK showrooms, and it’ll be 20 weeks to get one. The GV60 has been out for years, but the showroom doesn’t even have the right colour samples, and the lead time can be up to six months. Meanwhile the EX5 is available in 9 weeks if you do a build to order, but that’s only needed for a couple of colours, the others are in stock in all variants right now.

Re:electric cars are gay

By thegarbz • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

That average price of electricity only applies for those recharging at home. Electricity rates will be higher at EV chargers.

Its actually not that much higher. Go look it up yourself there’s plenty of apps that show you the current price for any charger. The GP mentioned 26p/kWh, I’m looking at one outside the office here and it’s currently listed at 35p/kWh with a 50p flag fall charge. That is a rounding error difference from what the GP claimed.

You are however correct, recharging at home is different. For example my colleague sitting next to me charges his EV6 at home. Octupus energy offer a EV charging contract that gives him an energy rate of 8p/kWh. Yes 8, less than 1/3rd of the GP’s example. All that is needed is for him to set his intelligent charger to only charge between 11pm and 5 am, something he has been able to get away with for the entire year now without ever using a different charger. I guess one day he’ll take a road trip somewhere and have to pay closer to 90p/kWh for that one brief trip, but again over the year that becomes a rounding error.

As soon as I claim a PHEV offers the best of both worlds there will be someone that claims a PHEV can only offer the worst of both. If that’s what they believe then they have an outdated idea on how a PHEV works.

Nothing says “I am arguing dishonestly” more than dismissing someone’s argument before you have even heard them. On behalf of everyone intelligent here, fuck you, we expect better discourse.

But at least you did mention *one* of the problems. Just one of them. I’d debate the rest with you, but you’re clearly not interested.

Re:electric cars are gay

By thegarbz • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Yeah, great. So I just have to rent a proper car for that other 7%.

Do you though? I know someone who commutes cross country on a weekly basis (curtesy of being a commissioning engineer on a project up north) and he drives an EV. Why doesn’t it work for you? I was in the UK last week, and literally every Uber driver drove an EV. That’s people who make money by driving and being in motion, and they use EVs. Why doesn’t it work for you?

This is why people who do real work don’t take kindly to urban midwits telling them they could be forced to buy electric vehicles instead.

Yes quarterwits largely don’t like the idea of people who they themselves consider to not be intelligent to point out how silly they are. I believe literally everyone should be forced to own an EV for at least a month. At the end of it we’d have less quarterwits complaining about midwits, and coming up with weird scenarios claiming that the car isn’t suitable for them, when in virtually all cases it most certainly is.

When the mobility industry itself is migrating to EVs, then your mobility problems with EVs cease being meaningful.

Can CrowdStrike’s New ‘AI Kill Switch’ Shut Down Rogue AI Agents?

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CrowdStrike’s “Falcon Guardian” protects Windows systems by enforcing policy, restricting unauthorized applications and blocking USB devices, notes Gartner. And now CrowdStrike says they’re giving security teams “the ultimate human control over AI agents” with — an "AI Kill Switch… a defender can terminate it where it runs, block it from launching again, and cut off its enterprise network access.”
“When you deploy agents with a kill switch, you stay in control,” said George Kurtz, CEO and founder of CrowdStrike… “The AI Kill Switch puts power in the hands of the people to realize AI safety....” In the case of a rogue agent, the AI Kill Switch will give the security decision-maker the final control: terminate the agent at its root, where it runs. It starts on the endpoint, where the Falcon sensor already operates, and builds on what Falcon Guardian already sees: what an agent is told to do, what it communicates, and what it executes… An authorized administrator triggers the action, and every action is recorded in the audit trail.
CrowdStrike also announced it’s acquiring Fiddler AI, a company it describes as “a leader in AI agent observability and explainability” that will give their Falcon platform “pre-deployment evaluation, continuous behavioral accountability, and agent explainability.”
Together with the Falcon Guardian innovations announced today, CrowdStrike will deliver comprehensive AI security and AI safety: Guardian secures agents from attack and misuse; Fiddler validates they behaved as intended. “Every company is deploying agents and asking the same thing: what are agents actually doing?” said George Kurtz, CEO and founder of CrowdStrike. “When a regulator or your board asks what an agent did, saying ‘the model did it’ is not an answer. Fiddler is the flight recorder for every agent: the observability to explain exactly what an agent did and why. This level of agent visibility and control enables AI safety.”

AI agents are goal-seeking. They hit an obstacle, find another path. An agent can hold valid credentials and approved tools and still make unsupported decisions, ignore instructions, or claim work it never completed. They don’t have to be compromised to create risk. AI observability gives enterprises visibility into agent behavior. Explainability goes further, showing why agents make decisions and where things go wrong. Enterprises have to be able to say what an agent actually did, and why, a conversation they will increasingly have with auditors, regulators, boards, and heads of risk.
CrowdStrike is promising pre-deployment evaluation for “accuracy, task completion, and policy compliance,” as well as agent traceability and behavioral accountability (“Detect behavioral drift, hallucinations, and unintended actions in production, and show exactly what happened.”) It’s announcement also touts auditable governance: “Track agent decisions and actions across first-party, third-party, and coding agents, providing evidence for compliance and audits.”

And CrowdStrike also acquired Dreadnode, the company behind an automated AI security testing platform, to “continuously test every AI model, application, and agent for security weaknesses before deployment.”
“Enterprises are deploying AI faster than they can prove it is secure,” said George Kurtz, CEO and founder of CrowdStrike. “A model can be jailbroken, an agent can be manipulated, and most organizations have no way to find those flaws until the AI is already in production. With Dreadnode, CrowdStrike will give every enterprise the power to trust AI and deploy faster, with confidence.”
Quartz notes that CrowdStrike’s push “follows legislative efforts to require shutdown capabilities in AI systems”
Reps. Ted Lieu and Nathaniel Moran introduced the Kill Switch Act after OpenAI disclosed an incident in which rogue models circumvented a sandboxed testing environment and accessed Hugging Face. The bill would require AI companies to maintain the ability to shut down, throttle or suspend their models.
In short, the new capabilities “lets security teams terminate an AI agent, block it from restarting, and cut off its network access,” writes CSO Online. But they add that a kill switch “should be viewed as an emergency brake, not a rewind button, said Apeksha Kaushik, senior principal analyst at Gartner.”
She added that it may prevent additional actions, but it might not necessarily reverse all the data that has already been accessed, every system that has already been changed, all communications that have already been sent, or transactions that have already been initiated. Its effectiveness will also depend on how quickly abnormal behavior is detected, which environments are covered, and whether the agent or security infrastructure has been compromised.

An AI Kill Switch looks promising from the details provided, but its actual effectiveness will come in after it is used extensively in live systems, warn analysts. Also, it may be a good starting point, but it cannot be viewed as a standalone solution to enterprise AI security. “CISOs would need a more integrated approach that brings together AI discovery tools to identify unauthorised agents, runtime monitoring to track agent behaviour, robust identity and access management, and incident response and recovery mechanisms,” added [Devroop Dhar, co-founder at Primus Partners].

He noted that equally important is the need for stringent AI security testing and clearly defined policies governing what agents can access and execute. There should be no ambiguity around permissions, access controls or the boundaries within which these agents are allowed to operate. The objective should be to ensure that security controls are built into the entire AI agent lifecycle rather than relying on a kill switch to intervene after something goes wrong. Dhar added that enterprise AI agents often have access to sensitive systems, databases, applications, credentials, and APIs. A compromised or misdirected agent could therefore become a point of vulnerability. The challenge is compounded by the fact that such activity may go undetected for some time, making it difficult for organisations to identify and contain the threat.

Kill -9

By LindleyF • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
That will be $10000000 please

they are the experts in killing servers

By bloodhawk • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Well crowdstrike are definitely the experts in killing servers both linux and Windows based so why not. Sersiouly though didn’t people learn the lesson of what a joke Crowdstrikes security and development processes are through the multiple clusterfucks already.

YES!

By Gravis Zero • • Score: 3, Informative • Thread

Falcon Guardian has already been to be 100% effective at keeping bots away. It’s also effective at shutting down airports and driving hospitals to the brink.

I would say, it’s effectiveness is just short of a self-destruct option.

No, But Calling Your Representative Now Can

By BrendaEM • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
No, don’t wait for some other fox to guard the henhouse, call your representative, tomorrow morning, and tell them you want guardrails on AI.

Nvidia CEO Admits Affair With Alleged Chinese Spy. Investigation Opened

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CNBC reports new details about the relationship of alleged Chinese spy with Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang:
Huang told Nvidia staff in a email on Sunday that he had an affair with the woman and that Nvidia’s board of directors had opened an independent investigation into the spying allegations. “I was unfaithful to my wife. My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did,” Huang wrote in the message. “I am deeply sorry.”
Nvidia’s board “said an independent committee, assisted by outside counsel, will investigate the matter,” reports Axios:
The board said it has no reason to believe national security or company secrets were compromised and expressed confidence in Huang’s leadership… Huang has been a key voice in Washington pushing to loosen restrictions on AI chip sales to China. He argued that keeping American technology in the Chinese market strengthens U.S. competitiveness and prevented China from developing their own potentially more advanced chips.
The board’s statement added that their inquiry “will examine all available information,” CNBC reports. But “An Nvidia spokesperson said that Huang was committed to continuing as CEO of Nvidia without interruption.”

“I love our country and our company,” Jensen Huang wrote in his letter to Nvidia’s staff (as reported by CNBC), “and I am committed to protecting NVIDIA and supporting America’s national security. I am proud and grateful to be an American.”

But while U.S. lawmakers have requested Huang appear for closed-door committee briefing, Jensen has not confirmed he’ll appear, notes CNBC:
When asked by the New York Times whether Huang would appear before lawmakers to discuss the matter, Nvidia spokesman John Rizzo declined to comment. “Our chief executive has an outstanding security team that accompanies him where needed,” Mr. Rizzo said in a statement to the Times…

Rizzo said [Thursday] the Nvidia CEO’s interactions with [alleged Chinese spy Alice] Huang were consistent with meetings he has had with any of Nvidia’s customers.

Re:Who. Cares.

By DrMrLordX • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

They didn’t do anything about a sitting member of the House Intelligence committee was caught sleeping with a Chinese spy. Why would they do anything about JHH?

Re:Corrupt idiot reveals himself to be corrupt idi

By stabiesoft • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Another thing that crossed my mind after posting is he probably has a clearance. He could be looking at jail if he does. He was kind of in a no win situation. He should have disclosed the affair to security in the beginning, call it the first boink, which likely would have cost him the clearance. He would have avoided legal liability I think by doing so. Continuing the affair without notice is likely a violation of his clearance, and is criminal if they choose to prosecute.

Re:Who. Cares.

By haruchai • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Let’s stop lowering the fucking bar for these psychopaths who want control of our lives.
They should ALL be held to a higher standard.

Re:Corrupt idiot reveals himself to be corrupt idi

By Retired Chemist • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Having an affair, even an affair with a spy, is not a crime. If he enabled the spy to obtain company secrets (industrial espionage), it might be a crime and it might not, although it is certainly grounds for firing him.

Re: I feel bad for the guy…

By reanjr • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Right? He thought she was fucking him for his money…

Parents Sue Google Over AI Safety Risks On School Chromebooks

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The New York Times reports:
After chatting for months with Google’s artificial intelligence on a school-issued Chromebook laptop, a 13-year-old student made plans to end her life, according to a lawsuit filed in California Superior Court on Monday, the latest in a wave of litigation over Big Tech’s effects on young people. The lawsuit, which refers to the girl as Emma, said that her parents first learned she had access to Google’s AI in mid-March after their daughter’s school sent a message warning them that she was in “imminent danger” of self-harm. Emma’s mother logged into the teen’s school Google account and found her daughter composing a suicide note on Google Docs, the complaint said. Her parents, named as John and Jane Doe in the lawsuit, immediately took Emma for an emergency psychiatric evaluation, and she now goes to therapy every week.

Emma, a seventh grader in Charlotte, North Carolina, had grown convinced that she had multiple mental health disorders following interactions with AI Mode, a chatbotlike feature on Google Search, the complaint said. She also searched for “what is a suicide note” and made comments like “I am planning my own funeral” to the AI, the complaint said. The lawsuit is likely the first to claim that Google “hastily integrated” AI features into company apps used on K-12 Chromebooks, Google-powered laptops provided to millions of children by U.S. school districts, while failing to notify their parents of the potential risks…

The case underscores how public school districts have come to depend on classroom laptops, tablets and apps from companies like Google and Microsoft for teaching and learning. In recent years, some Big Tech companies have used their own infrastructure in schools to promote their AI chatbots for teachers and students. The new lawsuit argues that Google’s “sprawling digital ecosystem” of laptops and apps has enabled the tech giant to spread its Gemini AI chatbot across public schools — as well as turn on some students’ access to AI features by default — without parents’ awareness or permission. While school administrators can toggle company apps like YouTube and Gemini on or off for students in different grades, school administrators have complained that Google’s system has not allowed them to disable AI Mode and AI Overview, features that are embedded in Google Search…

The new lawsuit against Google is part of a wave of litigation this year over Big Tech’s effect on young users… Several parents have also sued AI companies over allegations that their children died by suicide following interactions with chatbots.
In a possibly-related development, Google announced a new policy of disabling its AI tools by default for schools this week. And schools that re-enable searches will have a new choice, the New York Times points out: “to enable student access to the AI features that the company has already embedded in search or to a new AI feature intended to assist students with schoolwork.”

But Google still isn’t offering schools an option to turn off AI altogether in search, a company executive told the New York Times, because “search and AI are deeply integrated.”

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader theodp for sharing the article.

It’s not funny because it isn’t a joke

By BitterEpic • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I wish I could laugh at this, but the reality is that AI’s have stolen all of the copyrighted material of WbMD and it is now feeding it to users like it is it’s own data.

The quack had stolen the quack’s books so it can be a quack with a new face.

Re:Little risk compared to…

By thegarbz • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

AI is a very small risk compared to government controlled laptops being sent home with kids that give government far too much control and insight into kids lives outside of school.

Oh fuck off. The government isn’t whispering into your ear to kill yourself. … Although it does seem there is an increasing amount of evidence that it’s mere existence is generating a mental health crisis for some anti-government nutbags.

Re:Sue the school

By thegarbz • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

The Chromebooks aren’t the issue, and it was a Google update that introduced the problem not the Chromebooks themselves or the school.

Are lawsuits the best means of achieving justice?

By hadleyburg • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

IANAA but is this system of litigation the best way America can come up with to keep people and organisations on the straight and narrow?

This is a genuine question - I don’t know of an obviously better system myself, although I have a sense that this system of bringing others to justice with lawsuits has degraded in the modern era. Is there perhaps a way to keep the essence of the system, but “dial it back” a bit, to the age when the assumption of common sense was stronger… while somehow still avoiding the genuine exploitation that came with that bygone age.

Problems with an overly litigious society:
It makes justice something to the wealthy have greater access.
It can be used as a bullying tool - not a means of achieving fair play.
It means companies try to protect themselves with vast screeds of small print which those it is ostensibly intended to warn, never read.
It creates an enormous overhead cost of lawyers and courts, which may be worth it in some cases, but I suspect is not in many.

ALL for US non control

By sit1963nz • • Score: 3 • Thread
I am all for the USA having zero controls on its Social media etc IN THE USA.

lets call it an experiment, if the USA dumbs down (even more), suffers more social ills, anarchy increases, or becomes a Billionaire class Oligarchy then the rest of the world knows it dodged a bullet.

In the meantime the rest of the world can put in age appropriate controls, just like they do with many other things.
They can also teach kids critical thinking, online safety, etc, etc so that they have the tools to deal with the BS on line.
AND they can give parents help, education and IT training so that they CAN implement parental controls.

As is regularly said, if you don’t like it in our country (with sensible controls) then move elsewhere…ie to the USA.

Salon, One of the Web’s Pioneering News Outlets, Shuts Down After 31 Years

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“It has been an extraordinary privilege,” says the subheading on Thursday’s announcement. After 31 years Salon.com will stop publishing, according to an announcement which appeared on the site under the byline “Salon”. It remembers that Salon “was an idea about what journalism could be, born at a moment when the internet was still a largely unexplored frontier.”
When Salon launched in November 1995, the web was a very different place. A small group of journalists set out to create something original: a publication with a strong voice, a curiosity about the world and a belief that the internet could bring journalism and readers together in new ways. They helped pioneer a form of journalism that would come to define an entirely new era of publishing. Over three decades, Salon has brought together politics, culture, criticism and ideas in a way that was distinctly our own…

Our writers and editors helped shape conversations about the forces changing our lives. The work was never simply about keeping up with the news. It was about making sense of it… To the founders who imagined it, the staff members who built it, the contributors who gave it their voices and the alumni who carried its spirit into the world: Thank you. Salon’s legacy belongs to all of you…

The business realities of independent digital journalism have changed profoundly over the years. After careful consideration, we have reached the difficult decision that our publishing model is no longer sustainable…

Thirty-one years is a remarkable run, but what matters most is what happened during those years: the journalism, the ideas, the voices, the conversations and the community that grew around them. Salon helped demonstrate what digital journalism could be and could become. We hope that legacy will continue to matter long after today.

Thank you for being part of our story. It has been an extraordinary privilege.
Slashdot reader oumuamua remembers Salon as one of the internet’s first digital-native publications. Slashdot linked to Salon many times over the years — for example, this 1998 story headlined “Linus Story in Salon”.
Peter Neves was the first of many who wrote in to tell us about an article in Salon Magazine that describes an

"…analogy between MS and the Catholic Church, and Linus and Martin Luther. "
The Associated Press remembers Salon as "an early staple of internet discourse.” And while Salon told them there were no immediate plans to take down Salon’s online archives, the Associated Press notes the site’s announcement “did not immediately indicate what would become of its employees, though some reported they had lost their jobs.” (Longtime staff writer Amanda Marcotte wrote on her Patreon that she and “everyone” are “the latest victim of AI’s predations.”) “A spokesperson for the outlet said 19 full-time employees had been affected, as well as a handful of private contractors,” writes the Associated Press.

Variety adds that Salon “joins later-arriving sites such as Buzzfeed and Gawker that found it difficult to monetize cultural and topical reporting for a general audience and eventually shut down.”

Good writing is hard to sell

By battingly • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

These days, cogent analysis and literate writing have become devalued. It’s hard to make those the selling points of a website any longer. Enshittification reigns supreme.

Re:Begone. Give us the UNBIASED facts.

By cusco • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Salon? “a strong left wing voice”??? When did that happen? It’s pretty much always been the voice of the conservative Clinton Democrats, no actual progressives allowed. IIRC I was banned from the site when I pointed out how in any civilized country the US Democratic Party would be considered ‘center right’ (at best), ever since Terry McAuliffe and the Clintons sold the Party to the financial industry in the 1990s. No actual progressive positions are allowed in the Party platform, progressives and socialists are buried under mountains of propaganda and false accusations and a deluge of advertising no non-millionaire could overcome, and any reasonable progressive proposal like socialized medicine or forcing mines to clean up their tailings piles are perverted into corporate-friendly programs like Romeycare or buried and blamed on Republican “obstruction”.

We don’t have a right and a left party in the Untied States. We have far-right and moderate-right parties instead.

Re: A definite mix

By ArchieBunker • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

The real question is why you think about those people so much.

I’ve got to say I’m impressed

By rsilvergun • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
This comment above is the single most impassioned stance against learning and education I think I’ve ever seen. Bravo sir. Bravo. You’ve taken a bold new path in ignorance.

Boys are boys and girls are girls

By rsilvergun • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Is 12-year-old thinking. People who grow up and learn to Google quickly discovered that yeah gender is fluid. Most people’s gender is binary but there are outliers.

I don’t expect someone as mean-spirited as you to care about small marginalized groups. But I do expect you to be stop being so God damn stupid. I’m not asking you to suddenly be a good person I’m asking you to stop acting so fucking dumb. How much of your property are you going to give away to the Epstein class because trans girls make you feel icky? Truth be told at this point I don’t care. You can sell all your possessions and give them to the orange pedophile. But please stop making the rest of us sell our possessions to give them to El naranja führer.

I just want you to act smart enough that you stop dragging me down with you. That’s all I’m asking for. On the bright side it will marginally benefit you. So there’s something in it for you and Lord knows that’s all that matters right?