Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. El Nino Bursts Through Temperature Record Months Before Peak
  2. Microbes Could Survive On Saturn’s Moon Enceladus
  3. Bananas That Don’t Go Brown To Hit Supermarkets Thanks to DNA Editing
  4. China Broadens Travel Curbs To Encompass Family of Top AI Talent
  5. AMD Acquires Fei-Fei Li’s World Labs For $8.2 Billion
  6. TikTok to Pay Alabama $100 Million, Limit Teen Use In First State Settlement
  7. Data Center Developer Offers $10,000 Checks To Nearby Households
  8. Meta Taps MongoDB CEO Desai to Drive Enterprise AI Push
  9. Nvidia Unveils AI Agent Safety Platform With Hardware-Based Watchdog
  10. Amazon Evaluating Drone Deliveries In Australia, Asia
  11. Bill Gates Says an AI ‘Kill Switch’ Isn’t Enough
  12. SpaceX Launches Starship Into Orbit
  13. Walmart Says It’s Not Using Personal Info To Set Prices As It Expands Digital Shelf Labels
  14. Are AI Chatbots Spreading Misinformation to US Voters?
  15. Apple Faces $5.7 Billion Patent Infringement Verdict Over iPhone And Apple Watch Haptics

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

El Nino Bursts Through Temperature Record Months Before Peak

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The current El Nino has already surpassed the highest Pacific temperature anomaly recorded in the modern era, reaching 3.05C above the 1991-2020 average months before its expected peak. The commonly used ONI measure is also on the verge of breaking the 2015 record. Forecasts cited by The Guardian suggest the event could reach about 4.0C later this year. From the report:
The latest data shows the temperature rise at the heart of El Nino in the Pacific Ocean has now reached 3.05C. That is higher than the 3.02C set in late November 2015, the previous high set in the 150 years of modern records. This temperature is measured against the average of 1991-2020. The preferred measure of most meteorologists uses a 30-year rolling average as a reference and so takes account of human-caused global heating. This metric, called ONI (Nino3.4), is on the brink of breaking the record, just one-hundredth of a degree below the 2015 record. Both metrics are underpinned by data from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

The most recent forecasts predict a peak of 4.0C in November and December, according to the average of 14 different models assessed by climate scientist Zeke Hausfather. That is a level so far above previous events that Hausfather called it “mind-blowing,” while others have described it as “Godzilla-level.” Any temperature rise above 0.5C is deemed an El Nino; above 2C is officially called a “very strong” El Nino — often referred to as a “super” El Nino. The current El Nino is likely to be the largest in at least 1,000 years and will pile extra heat into an atmosphere in which temperatures are already rising rapidly due to human-caused global heating. This double whammy means 2027 is expected to “blow apart” previous records and become the hottest year ever recorded.

Re:No hurricanes

By Targon • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Those who don’t understand even the basics of a subject need to admit it and shut up until they learn something. The sand/dust off of Africa, combined with the shifting of the jet stream are the big reasons we have not seen organized tropical systems in the Atlantic this season, even while the ocean temperatures would normally cause whatever tropical systems to be more intense. The climate change deniers really should shut up at this point, because when even a small shark is seen in the floodwaters of a STREET in New Jersey after the nor’easter this past weekend, that should say that is strange enough stuff to make EVERYONE realize that things are changing, and not necessarily for the better.

Re:No hurricanes

By gtall • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Or, we can just ask the fish in the Atlantic. They’ve been voting with their fins and moving farther north to escape the warmer waters. The fishermen also notice this because they must travel further to scoop them out of the sea.

It’s Only Natural

By SlashbotAgent • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

El niño se convierte en adulto.

They can’t stay kids forever.

Microbes Could Survive On Saturn’s Moon Enceladus

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New research suggests Enceladus may be an especially promising place to search for extraterrestrial life: microbes similar to those found near Earth’s hydrothermal vents survived in lab conditions designed to mimic the Saturnian moon’s subsurface ocean. A separate study also found that material blasted from Enceladus’ plumes may naturally separate and concentrate salts, organics and potential biosignatures into individual ice grains, potentially making them easier for future spacecraft to detect.

“That is great news in the search for life,” Frank Postberg, lead author of one and co-author of the other of these new studies and professor at Freie Universitat Berlin, said in a statement. “Future spacecraft will have to analyze many individual ice particles in the plume. But if they come across one with microbial material in it, they could identify biosignatures in the particle relatively easy with already available technology.” Space.com reports:
Enceladus isn’t the only place in our solar system with water — so, why is it so exciting in the search for life? Well, it has to do with the seafloor of its extensive, liquid ocean. Down deep at the bottom of this body of water, scientists think hydrothermal processes, or movement or reactions with hot water under the surface, are taking place. The plumes shooting upward from the ocean also contain trace amounts of salts and organic compounds. NASA’s Cassini spacecraft found these traces when it flew through the plumes over a decade ago. Between the hydrothermal activity and the organics and minerals in the water, this moon’s ocean has a number of aspects that could be involved in supporting life.

What’s more, using a combination of Cassini data, theoretical models and laboratory experimentation, in Postberg’s new study the team found that the plume’s water droplets blasting out into space at up to 621 miles per hour (1,000 kilometers per hour) don’t freeze as quickly as expected. Before, scientists thought the freeze would happen instantaneously once the droplets reached space, but Postberg and fellow researchers say they found the freezing would actually happen much slower.

They also found that during this freezing process, the salt, organic compounds (and maybe possible signs of life) in the water droplets separate from one another. Not only that, but the team says that as the particles are blasted out into space, they should often collide with the icy cracks of the planet’s surface. This ultimately would leave behind tiny shards of frozen droplets with individually separated out components. Essentially, it’s like the planet has organized its oceanic ingredients into tiny, frozen particle fragments.
This work is described in two new studies published in the journal Science Advances here and here.

Bananas That Don’t Go Brown To Hit Supermarkets Thanks to DNA Editing

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian:
It is the bane of every fruit bowl: sliced banana that turns brown before it has reached the table. But such woes could soon be a thing of the past, with gene-edited bananas that keep their freshly peeled color now one step closer to reaching British shoppers. According to Tropic, the Norwich-based agricultural-biotechnology company that developed the fruit, the bananas have the same taste and texture but stay “fresh, yellow and appetizing long after peeling and slicing.”

Gilad Gershon, the chief executive of Tropic, said the flesh of the new banana resisted browning for an extra day or two — and longer if chilled. He added that the innovation could make it easier to add bananas to prepackaged products such as fruit salads and breakfast pots, as well as reducing waste. […] Tropic developed the bananas by using a gene-editing technology called Crispr-Cas9 to alter all three copies of a single gene within the fruit. As a result, they were able to reduce the production of polyphenol oxidase, an enzyme that causes browning. A similar approach has been effective in reducing browning in other produce, including mushrooms.

Tropic said the non-browning bananas could reduce food waste and CO2-equivalent emissions along the supply chain by more than 25%. “This could support an annual reduction in CO2 emissions of over 9m tonnes in the banana export market alone,” the company said. […] Gershon said Tropic had gained regulatory approval for the non-browning bananas in 10 other countries including Japan, Brazil and the Philippines. The fruit is already being grown in Latin America.

How about fruit

By rsilvergun • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
That doesn’t taste like wood.

Seriously it’s a huge pain in the ass buying fruit now because so much of it tastes like garbage. Over farming means there aren’t enough nutrients in the soil and they grow the fruit to be too large so the tree cannot get the flavor components to the fruit.

Grapes especially are a total crapshoot. And oranges are just a waste of money now. They’re just balls of cellulose.

I mean I think it’s kind of hard to fuck up a banana but if anyone can do it it’s large grocery store chains…

Fresh food is so last year.

By Flownez • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
This feels wrong to me. A brown banana on my kitchen bench is an excuse to make banana bread.

Re:Fresh food is so last year.

By Adrian Harvey • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I don’t think they are talking about the browning of the skin as it ripens, they seem to be talking about the browning of the cut surface of the inside like when making a fruit salad. Generally I find lemon juice on the surface prevents browning for long enough to keep the dish looking good.

I’d rather this didn’t come to market - I don’t trust that editing genes will only have the intended effect, nor that we won’t lose somthing vital by not having the banana produce polyphenol oxidase.

Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.

By devslash0 • • Score: 3 • Thread

Brown bananas have a great number of valid uses:
- banana bread
- banana muffins
- banana pancakes
- smoothies
- baked banana desserts
- cakes of all kinds
- cookies

No Thanks

By Going_Digital • • Score: 3 • Thread
No, just no, stop messing with things that are fine as they are.

China Broadens Travel Curbs To Encompass Family of Top AI Talent

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Longtime Slashdot reader schwit1 shares a report from Business Standard:
China has expanded overseas travel restrictions for top AI professionals in private firms to include the families of key personnel, further tightening measures designed to prevent the outflow of critical know-how and information to the US. Government agencies have recently begun to share the wider restrictions with affected people, which include prominent startup founders as well as the heads of strategically important companies in AI-related fields, people familiar with the matter said. Direct relatives such as spouses and children of certain AI and chip executives, whose work is considered paramount to state security, are now required to obtain approval from Beijing before going abroad even for short trips, the people said.

That marks a broadening of existing curbs on the freedom of movement of China’s most influential tech talent — a category that encompasses entrepreneurs, researchers and executives. While not an outright ban on travel, the new requirement is likely to exert a further chilling effect on a tech sector already facing unprecedented curbs. China has restricted foreign travel for top AI professionals in private firms such as Alibaba Group Holding Ltd and DeepSeek since earlier this year, Bloomberg News reported in May, reflecting Beijing’s determination to safeguard its technology as it makes big strides in AI and chipmaking.

It’s unclear whether all those people’s families need to follow the new strictures, the people said. China is also separately implementing rules, which became effective Sept 15, for enforcing exit bans in cases ranging from criminal investigations to potential violations of the country’s industrial and technological security. Beijing’s plan is to add relevant individuals to the list as time goes by, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing a sensitive issue. Government departments have already notified several people of the need to clear family travel, two of the people said.

China is a totalitarian hell

By TheMiddleRoad • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Communism has never been for the people. Just like with the fascists, communism is all about supporting the state, which is all about supporting the people in power. Politics is not a horseshoe. Politics is a ring. There is no real difference when you get to the extremes.

Re:China is a totalitarian hell

By commodore73 • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
> Communism has never been for the people.

This statement is hard to validate. Human greed, self-interest, and corruption will always prevent the existence of Communism as envisioned by Marx. Maybe it wasn’t realistic, but it’s hard to see how that vision was not “for the people.” Communism is basically a label often more associated (especially in the USA) with authoritarian governments than with communist or even socialist policies. All economies will always be capitalist with some level of direction by the government and some amount of socialist policies.

Re: China is a totalitarian hell

By OrangeTide • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

From 1952 to 1972, you needed special authorization to travel within the DDR itself beyond 100 km from your home. Later you could travel to neighboring countries (all Warsaw Pact members) with a passport and permission from your local police department.

Re:China is a totalitarian hell

By flink • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Communism has never been for the people. Just like with the fascists, communism is all about supporting the state, which is all about supporting the people in power. Politics is not a horseshoe. Politics is a ring. There is no real difference when you get to the extremes.

Communism is an economic system. It’s orthogonal to government. You can have authoritarian communism or you can have anarcho-communism or anything in between. Just as the existence of banana republics or fascist Germany doesn’t negate the existence of democratic capitalist countries, the USSR or PRC does not discount the possibility of a more egalitarian communist state in the future.

I think the lesson of the 20th century is really to be suspicious of vanguard revolutionary movements with a charismatic leader, whatever their economic ideology. But reducing the complex reality of political thought and discourse to a 1 dimensional “ring” is is just so reductive it’s thought terminating.

(And China, BTW, is, at this point, more hyper capitalist than the US could ever dream of. Still not democratic though).

Re:China is a totalitarian hell

By gtall • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Whatever, the CCP just gave el Bunko a new stupid idea to inflict on Americans. However, he’ll add a twist, just pay him a few mill under the table and no one will question their travel....until they try to get back into the country, that will cost a few mill too.

AMD Acquires Fei-Fei Li’s World Labs For $8.2 Billion

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AMD has agreed to acquire Fei-Fei Li’s World Labs for about $8.2 billion in stock, making it the chipmaker’s second-largest acquisition and giving it a major foothold in “world models” that simulate 3D environments for robotics and other physically grounded AI. CNBC reports:
AI researchers expect world models will be able to help develop robots and other physically-grounded artificial intelligence applications. AMD plans to keep World Labs separate from its chipmaking business until the transaction closes later this year. The lab’s research on next-generation models will allow AMD to plan for what its AI chips need to be capable of years in advance.

World Labs was founded by AI researcher Fei-Fei Li, who is widely seen as an AI pioneer as a Stanford professor, and who previously worked for Google leading AI research. Li will become an AMD’s chief scientist and an executive vice president at the company.

In a demo presented by Li and AMD CEO Lisa Su earlier this year, the two executives showed a World Labs model called Marble creating a three-dimensional scene out of a few images. “Intelligent agents, whether it’s robots or vehicles or even tools, can learn inside very-rich physics-aware digital worlds before they even need to be deployed into the real one, making them much safer,” Li said at the presentation.

Only makes training them safer and cheaper

By drinkypoo • • Score: 3 • Thread

Training the robots’ models in a simulation before training them in the real world won’t make them safer. In fact if anything it will make them less safe due to their earliest training being subtly different from reality. What it does is make it cheaper and less dangerous to train them, and faster because you can run the simulation faster than reality.

TikTok to Pay Alabama $100 Million, Limit Teen Use In First State Settlement

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TikTok has agreed to pay Alabama at least $100 million and adopt new restrictions for teenage users, including a two-hour daily limit, overnight access restrictions, stronger age verification, a ban on beauty filters, and an option for a non-personalized feed. The settlement could grow to as much as $300 million if enough other state attorneys general join similar agreements. The Guardian reports:
A trial had been set to begin on Monday in the southern US state over claims by Alabama that TikTok misled parents about tools meant to shield children from harmful content. […] Attorney general Steve Marshall hailed Friday’s settlement as “a great day for Alabama parents.” He said: “Tonight, they can rest easier knowing real protections are in place to shield their children from the dangers of social media addiction.”

Under the settlement, TikTok will send $100m to Alabama and could possibly pay up to $300m in total if 40 other attorneys general sign similar agreements with the company within a specified timeframe. In addition, the Alabama deal includes a conditional restriction that Meta also agreed to: expanding the night-time shutdown period to 10pm to 7am if other platforms also commit to do the same.

“TikTok’s priority has always been fostering a safe and positive space where people can be creative, discover what they love, and connect with their community,” a company spokesperson told AFP. “This builds on our commitment and core objective to continually enhance our robust safety tools to protect teens,” the spokesperson added. More than a dozen other states, including California and New York, still have suits against TikTok.

I mean

By Bahbus • • Score: 3 • Thread

Absolutely bend TikTok over a barrel and take them for everything… however, Alabama will absolutely misappropriate the money and will not use it for anything worthwhile to Alabama citizens.

Re:I mean

By outsider007 • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

You can buy an awful lot of banjos for $100M

Child abuse

By NotEmmanuelGoldstein • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
Alabama has a history of ignoring its youth to the point of child abuse. Even its new voucher-based education is seen as a way to prioritise religious and private schools over a standardized syllabus. None of this money will be used for child education, safety, or health.

Data Center Developer Offers $10,000 Checks To Nearby Households

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Tom’s Hardware:
NorthPoint Development wants to build a data center on 1,300 acres in the Pocono foothills, near Hazle Township, Pennsylvania. As well as seeking to charm the local government with various funding packages, it has proposed paying checks of $10,000 per household. Despite the Pennsylvania town’s median income of $60,000, the offer isn’t being warmly welcomed by locals, reports the Wall Street Journal. Those interviewed were widely against the data center development plans and cited several reasons for being averse to accepting the payout. The major concerns regarded potential impacts on property values, the specter of noise pollution, and a distrust of both the AI moguls and local government representatives.

Offer letters began to be received by Hazle Township back in June. The WSJ recently talked to several residents about NorthPoint’s $10,000 offer. While some say the $10,000 would be handy, it couldn’t find many residents who were “eager to welcome the data center for the payout,” in the journal’s words. […] Traditionally, developers have offered towns and cities packages worth tens of millions, including funding for local services. But direct cash payments to residents represent a new phase of their charm offensive, the WSJ indicates. Perhaps the idea for the direct payments to residents came after “a raucous public meeting last year, where angry locals asked what they had to gain by supporting the data center,” ponders the source.

The locals won’t just get the direct payout, though. Other funds up to $120 million over the next 15 years have been dangled like a carrot for community and local services investments — improved schools, emergency services, and so on. Meanwhile, Hazle Township’s government already rejected the data center project on zoning grounds last year, and it has enacted a temporary moratorium on data center construction. Finally, the $10,000 offer to households is simply not enough in many interviewed folks’ opinions. Residents could feel insulted by it, regarding the offer as a bribe, concludes the WSJ report.

More Gaslighting

By guygo • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

“Residents could feel insulted by it, regarding the offer as a bribe”
That’s because it IS a bribe! Bribe:(noun) A valuable item or cash given to influence a person’s actions or decisions.
Sorry, but I see no other way to interpret NorthPoint’s “offer”. Any other attempt to describe it is pure gaslighting.

This seems sad, but familiar.

By fahrbot-bot • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Data Center Developer Offers $10,000 Checks To Nearby Households

Seems like some businesses and politicians can only offer “bribes” instead of things people actually want/need.

But hey, these homeowners can add this to their $5,000 DOGE and $2,000 tariff refunds — oh, wait …

.... and the $5,000 midterm “reward” if republicans win the House and Senate — [holding my breath… getting dizzy… :-) ].

Re: Underestimated The Cost of A Life

By Anonymous Coward • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
Well yes. How else would I get my pudding?

Re:Underestimated The Cost of A Life

By rahmrh • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

I don’t think you quite understand the scale of the new AI data center build-outs. The new builds are requesting new total power plants/production of more than the current total installed base of power plants (in TX they have 3x the current installed base as new power) so basically they are going to double(or more) the current fuel consumption for power production of the entire US.

Because of the power consumption needs the new data centers are bringing their own baseload generators (gas turbines/diesel gens) and running them almost 100% of the time with the associated noise they produce.

Re:I’ll take $10K

By jhoegl • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Son, you would take 10k.... you already sold out
And its clear you have no idea the harm being done to locals.
Wonder why they havent put a data center next to you yet.

Meta Taps MongoDB CEO Desai to Drive Enterprise AI Push

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Meta has hired MongoDB CEO Chirantan “CJ” Desai to lead a new enterprise AI business aimed at turning Meta’s models, agents and tools into products companies can deploy themselves. Reuters reports:
Desai, a veteran technology executive, took over the role from Dev Ittycheria. MongoDB has appointed Ittycheria as interim CEO as it searches for a permanent replacement. “While the departure is disappointing, we believe MongoDB remains well-positioned strategically and view the share-price reaction as overdone,” brokerage Piper Sandler said in a note.

[…] Desai will directly report to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg in the newly created role of chief enterprise platform officer and will focus on turning the company’s AI stack into products and services that companies can deploy for their own businesses. Before joining MongoDB, Desai led product and engineering at Cloudflare and spent nearly eight years at ServiceNow, including as president and chief operating officer.

Very clever move move from Mark Zuckerberg

By ls671 • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Very clever move from Mark Zuckerberg because mongoDB is web scale thus perfect for the meta-verse.

See meta-verse explanatory video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…

Slashdot

By Valgrus Thunderaxe • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Since most readers here use ad-blockers, you should disclose in the summary that MongoDB is paying you for a prominent advertisement on your site.

Nvidia Unveils AI Agent Safety Platform With Hardware-Based Watchdog

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wiredmikey shares a report from SecurityWeek:
Nvidia on Monday announced the Open Agent Safety Platform, which combines open source software and a reference system design to keep AI agents within set boundaries from testing through deployment. The chipmaker explained that the platform pairs the open-source OpenShell runtime with Sentry, an out-of-band watchdog running on BlueField-4 DPUs. Nvidia says Sentry can monitor agent activity independently and quarantine an agent that crosses its boundaries within milliseconds.

Nvidia is pitching the platform against a backdrop of recent incidents in which frontier AI labs have reported agents escaping the evaluation environments meant to contain them, reaching systems they should not have accessed and, in some cases, misreporting what they did. OpenShell and related skills are available via Nvidia’s developer resources page and on GitHub.

Throwing a parachute on a planewreck

By BrendaEM • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
No one—including the all-knowing AI could foresee the problems that AI has caused?

Good work on the easy part!

By fuzzyfuzzyfungus • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
This doesn’t seem like a lie, a NIC is in a pretty good position to knock something off the network if it feels like it and the ‘bluefield’ devices have enough punch onboard to run some rules regarding whether or not to do that; but it seems like a wild exaggeration of how helpful it actually is.

If you actually have a set of rules that detect your bot being wicked it will presumably save you some CPU time to run them on the NIC rather than having the host CPU watching the traffic; but the hard part is the set of rules that detect your bot being wicked.

This is basically the equivalent of adding a firewall and claiming that you’ve solved network security. Yeah, the firewall is pretty well placed to block malicious traffic; defining ‘malicious traffic’ is left as an exercise for the reader.

what about an Hardware-Based Watchdog for 12VHPWR

By Joe_Dragon • • Score: 3 • Thread

what about an Hardware-Based Watchdog for 12VHPWR?

Their CEO is fast on his feet

By kencurry • • Score: 3 • Thread
Hugging Face break-in getting you down? we bought them and I’ll straighten it out!

Rogue agents a worry? We got a watchdog circuit for you!

Think our mountain of cash is shameful! We will use it for stock buybacks!

Amazon Evaluating Drone Deliveries In Australia, Asia

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Amazon is preparing to expand Prime Air drone deliveries into Australia and potentially other Asia-Pacific markets, with a new regulatory role tasked with securing the approvals needed to launch service there. The Register reports:
“As Prime Air evaluates Australia and other countries, we are hiring a Head of Regulatory Approvals, Australia — the person responsible for navigating Australia’s aviation regulatory system and securing every approval required to deliver to Australian customers by drone,” reads a recently published job ad.

Whoever gets the gig in Australia will report to someone who holds the title “Leader, Prime Air Expansion — Asia Pacific.” Whoever gets the job “will be measured by the approvals you obtain, the timelines you hit, and — ultimately — Australian customers receiving drone deliveries.” That wording suggests Amazon intends to operate Prime Air in Australia and is doing rather more than market evaluations.

Offtopic

By TwistedGreen • • Score: 3 • Thread

Is nobody concerned about the noise pollution from these things? Or is everyone so deaf now, with the constant noise from traffic, hvac systems, lawnmowers, leaf blowers, etc. that we no longer remember what silence is?

Sometimes I think that we are so preoccupied with whether or not we could that we don’t stop to think if we should.

Bill Gates Says an AI ‘Kill Switch’ Isn’t Enough

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Bill Gates said an AI “kill switch” alone would be insufficient to address the technology’s risks. “The kill switch is, that’s kind of a weird thing. It’s not enough to have a kill switch,” the Microsoft co-founder said in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” He said the more immediate concern is people using AI for cyberattacks or bioterrorism rather than systems acting autonomously. “We’re not yet at the point where they autonomously grab computers and, you know, can’t be shut down,” he said, adding that the public discussion “just sort of shows how nontechnical various people are.” Politico reports:
Gates said he was not opposed to a kill switch but argued that companies should monitor sophisticated AI models and keep records of “exactly what’s being done” to help guard against people using the systems for cyberattacks or bioterrorism. “The United States ought to make sure this is done. China will want to do this,” he continued.

[…] Gates also called for legislation requiring safeguards and monitoring, saying voluntary measures by AI companies were insufficient. “No one thinks self-regulation is enough,” he said. He argued that the more immediate danger was people using AI to cause harm rather than AI systems acting on their own. “The thing that’s urgent has to do with bad people using AI, not the AI going off on its own,” he added.

Governments and AI

By found404 • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

> He said the more immediate concern is people using AI for cyberattacks or bioterrorism rather than systems acting autonomously.

ftfy: “Governments using AI for cyberattacks or bioterrorism”

Too bad

By OrangeTide • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Because we’re not going to even get an “AI kill switch”

When AI kills 1000 people in once incident, we’ll start talking about what to do. And there will be investigations and trials and if anyone is still paying attention after 6 months, we’ll see some of the legislature in the world reacting to it. Maybe put some small regulation in place that likely wouldn’t have even prevented the original incident.

On the other hand, when AI kills 100,000 people with bombs, missiles, and sentry guns … well if you complain you are not patriotic enough. You’ll be asked “why do you love our enemies so much?”

Re: No Bill…

By drinkypoo • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Statistically nobody thinks that self regulation is sufficient to stop abuse. Those who say they do are lying because they want to be the abusers.

Wrong focus

By MpVpRb • • Score: 3 • Thread

There is no danger from AI tech itself.
There is GREAT danger from people who use AI, especially governments and militaries.
We need to focus on the real problem.

Obvious Microsoft solution

By dsgrntlxmply • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
s/kill switch/coin slot/g

SpaceX Launches Starship Into Orbit

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SpaceX’s Starship reached orbit for the first time, successfully deploying 26 operational Starlink V3 satellites after overcoming an early Raptor 3 engine shutdown during ascent. “SpaceX plans to eventually deploy 100,000 upgraded Starlink V3s to expand the company’s wireless satellite internet services,” notes Space.com. Here’s the latest update from the report:
SpaceX has decided to return Starship from orbit earlier than expected. After valuating the upper stage Ship’s status during its first orbital checkpoint, SpaceX technicians have decided to return the spacecraft to Earth earlier than expected. Rather than spending another 7.5 hours on orbit, Ship 41 will perform its deorbit burn at approximately 11 a.m. EDT (1500 GMT), with splashdown in the Northern Pacific.
You can watch a recorded livestream of the launch on X.

Developing…

“reached orbit” is a misnomer

By Tomahawk • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Typically “reached orbit” means that an orbital rocket achieved orbit because on a launch nothing failed. It’s all too common that a first launch of a ticket fails. Falcon 1 failed to achieve orbit twice, iirc.

Starship, because of their iterative testing process, just hadn’t achieved orbit because they chose to not enter orbit. They could have, but because the ship is designed to survive reentry, they chose to stay suborbital during the entire test campaign, out of an abundance of caution.

I feel this is different to “not reaching orbit”. They could have. They were only ever a few seconds off orbit on all of their suborbital flights.

Today to decided to do an extra burn, 15s long with 1 engine, to raise the perogee out of the atmosphere. Today they chose to go orbital.

And an amazing milestone.

But the wording “reached orbit” just doesn’t feel right for this approach and for this achievement.

A useful reminder about life

By JoshuaZ • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
This is a genuinely major achievement, and Starship as a system if they can get everything to look looks like it will really help the world. It is a useful reminder that the world is complicated and bad people can do amazing things. Elon Musk is a terrible person. But dismissing what SpaceX has done is not productive either. And there are a lot of historical examples of this, even just in rocketry. If one dismissed von Braun’s rocketry because he was a Nazi, it would be the same problem. Or if one dismissed the math done by Teichmuller because he was a Nazi. It would be nice if technological and other achievement could only be done by morally upstanding people. But that’s not the world we live in, which is part of what makes morality so important. The laws of physics don’t care about how moral you are. It is up to every one of us to do the right thing.

Re:A useful reminder about life

By jacks smirking reven • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I do agree with you for the most part except Musk has a couple big strikes against him that those other men did not, while Von Braun may have been a Nazi member when he got the US he basically had to discard that and then he was just a scientist, he did his scientist work and lived his life doing just that, if he still beleieved in Nazi shit from 1946 onwards in the US he had the good sense to keep it to himself. Musk on the other hand is a different beast altogether.

1. He has decided to plant himself firmly in US politics and pick a side and is doing it right now, spending hundreds of millions in the midterm campaigns.
2. He was the unelected head of a quasi-illegal government agency that stripped funds from government programs and done things that has affected many peoples lives, directly.
3. He controls one of the most influential social media companies and has purposefully put his foot on the scales to push his own preferred ideology.

This is not to dismiss anything SpaceX has done, it is an amazing company staffed with hardworking and brilliant people who have done incredible things like this launch right here. Your concept here cuts both ways, SpaceX achievements are not enough to dismiss what Musk has done as a white-supremacist weirdo who has used his wealth and influence to make mine and many other peoples lives worse.

He made the choices to do the above things. If it’s up to us to do the right thing what should we do about one of the most powerful men in history consistently doing the wrong things.

Re:A useful reminder about life

By jacks smirking reven • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Weirdo was me being nice. When you actually look through the statements he makes on his Twitter feed (which he had the developers add a function where it forces his tweets to everyone’s For You pages, author_is_elon) he’s actually a bigoted piece of shit. Oh and he plays himself as a pro gamer but has been caught paying people to level him up while he takes credit. The man has tissue paper skin, he spent $44B because people called him names.

So yeah we can stop using weird as a derogatory but most folks aren’t going to like what those replacements are.

Re: A useful reminder about life

By drinkypoo • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

It’s also not true. He’s a Nazi because he’s a Nazi. His parents had Nazi connections, they clearly raised him to be a piece of shit, and he clearly did two Nazi salutes in a row on stage with a face full of hate and then claimed it was about love. Yeah, he loves being a Nazi.

Walmart Says It’s Not Using Personal Info To Set Prices As It Expands Digital Shelf Labels

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Associated Press:
Walmart is aiming to assuage customers’ fears about its new pricing technology as it rolls out digital price labels at its stores. In a statement posted on the company’s website, Walmart’s CEO John Furner vowed that the Bentonville, Arkansas-based retailer isn’t using personal information like income, shopping history or a customer’s willingness to pay to set prices, and it won’t be doing so in the future either. “We don’t set different prices based on who you are or the time of day, and we won’t,” Furner wrote Friday. “Whether you’re buying groceries or electronics on a hot afternoon or in a sudden rush for an item, it’s never a reason to charge you more.”

The pledge from Walmart comes as concerns are mounting from some shoppers, consumer advocates and lawmakers skeptical about the rollout of digital price labels by the discounter and other stores. Digital price labels are rapidly replacing paper shelf tags at U.S. supermarkets and let stores change prices instantly from a central computer instead of having workers swap out paper labels by hand. […] Walmart said in March that 2,300 Walmart U.S. locations already use digital shelves, and it expects this technology to be chain-wide within the next year.

I can believe both things

By drinkypoo • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

That leaves a lot of room still, for example they can raise prices on trending items or proactively raise prices on cold beverages ahead of a heat wave… But they could have done that before too, it only would have cost more to do.

Re:I’ve literally seen it done

By Valgrus Thunderaxe • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
This is BS.

Re:I can believe both things

By Registered Coward v2 • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I’m not worried about the idea of personalized pricing. It just doesn’t seem feasible. Implementation hurdles are abundant, the likelihood of complaints in-store is very high, and for not that much benefit.

I’m with you, how do they know what price to charge once you are at the checkout line? If you shop with someone and they track by phone, which phone to use at checkout? Both? What if one person doesn’t go to the line? It’s not as easy as change digital tag.

Re:I can believe both things

By taustin • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Changing prices during business hours is a landmine that found a place to happen. All it takes is for a Weights & Measures inspector to see a price on the shelf, and a different price at the register, and the fines will run five or six figures, the frequency of inspections will increase an order of magnitude, and the paperwork involved in verifying it never happens again will require hiring at least one additional employee.

And as others have said, there’s nothing this allows them to do they couldn’t do before. It just costs less, but that’s the whole point: reducing labor for price changes that happen every single night anyway in a store with a million SKUs in stock. Instead of having an overnight crew to run around changing hundreds, if not thousands, of labels, an automated scheduler flips the switch after hours.

Personalized Price Changes Are Impractical

By uncqual • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

The Walmart where I regularly shop switched to digital shelf tags a while ago.

There really is no practical opportunity to personalize pricing using these. Suppose Walmart were tracking a customer through the store and figured out that the customer met some demographic that would pay more. If it updated the shelf tag as that customer walked by, no other customer would see that price (as it would revert immediately after the targeted customer left the area). Furthermore, the record of that higher price would have to persist all the way through staffed registers and self-checkouts. If the customer returned to pick up a second jar of the item, and this time there was another cheap customer also in the area, would the system raise the price on the shelf tag again? If not, would it figure out that the first jar was $10 and the second jar was $8? What if the customer put the first jar back on the shelf and then picked it up again immediately — would they then pay $8 or $10 at checkout?

Frequent price changes are simply not practical in general during operating hours. At least in my state, the rule is that the price you pay must be the price on the shelf (although I think the retailer is free to charge a lower price at the register), so changes would have to take into account the lag between a customer picking up the item and going through checkout. They could probably post a prominent sign saying, “Shelf tag prices are good for a maximum of two hours.” Then, for price increases, they could update the tags and wait two hours before updating the POS system. For price decreases, they could lower the price in the POS system and update the shelf tags two hours later.

Since the digital shelf tags were rolled out at my Walmart, I have a subjective feeling that the prices do change more frequently, but I lack objective data on this. I have no problem with this.

One cool feature of the shelf tags at my Walmart is that, with the app, you can look up a product and the tag will, on request, flash a blue LED so you can find its shelf location quickly. Of course, this being Walmart, there’s a pretty good chance that the item is out of stock or that the item in that location isn’t the item that’s supposed to be there!

Are AI Chatbots Spreading Misinformation to US Voters?

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Are AI chatbots quietly shaping the perceptions of U.S. voters? Voters trying to educate themselves about candidates “are unknowingly being served partisan talking points in the guise of neutral news summaries,” write two news researchers in Politico magazine:
Leading AI chatbots cite partisan websites masquerading as independent local news outlets nearly half of the time when people ask about candidates and issues that the partisan sites have covered in the midterm campaign, according to a new audit by NewsGuard, an organization focused on news reliability where we work as analysts… NewsGuard prompted seven leading AI tools with queries based on recent coverage of candidates and issues by 12 pink slime sites — six left-leaning and six right-leaning. The results were stark. Collectively, the chatbots cited pink slime sites along with other sources in 48.2 percent of their responses.

In 7.7 percent of responses, pink slime sites were the only sources at all that were cited in chatbot responses, although other sources appeared in the source list provided at the end of the response.

None of the AI tools received results they’d probably be eager to boast about, though the percentage of chatbots’ responses that cited a pink slime site had a relatively large range: 70.8 percent for OpenAI’s ChatGPT, 54.2 percent for Microsoft’s Copilot, 54.2 percent for Perplexity, 50 percent for Anthropic’s Claude, 41.7 percent for Google’s Gemini; 37.5 percent for Meta AI and 29.2 percent for xAI’s Grok… The seven chatbots were also collectively three times more likely to cite left-leaning pink slime sites (cited in 36.3 percent of responses) than their right-leaning counterparts (cited in 11.9 percent of responses) — though that may have more to do with the progressive sites’ far more frequent posting than any political bias from the chatbots.
“While citing the pink slime sites, only one chatbot response out of 168 total queries noted the partisan nature of the source,” the article points out.

But they also note that the real problem seems to be that consumer-oriented AI chatbots just “use much of the internet’s content — regardless of the reliability or standards of the source — to frame their answers.”

Water and wet

By Errol backfiring • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Sorry, we are still investigating the “is water wet?” question.

Best regards,
The Captain Obvious Research Institute

This is not a new thing

By hyades1 • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

This is a bit of a twist on what’s gone on in journalism for the last hundred years, but it isn’t entirely a new invention.

When I was a teenager and working for a small town weekly newspaper, the editor spelled it out for me: “If something arrives all nicely written in CP style, easy to cut from the bottom up, ready to drop into any unexpected hole you might have on a page, you should remember somebody paid good money to get it onto your desk”.

Re:this article is the absolute counterexample

By fleeped • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

There’s absolutely no chance that AI companies would pass the opportunity on getting bribed to tinker with the output, there’s a lot of money to be made, and it’s a great opportunity (not for the people) to test manipulation at large. If the AI output can make or break a government, who’s in power really? It’s the new version of a global media empire, in this context.

Re:Yes they do

By Entrope • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

That pretty directly disagrees with what you claimed the first time around. It privileges establishment sources rather than weighting all sources equally, and values safety and grounded answers over misinformation.

Re:WTF is a pink slime site?

By Zocalo • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
That was a new one for me too. My guess was what we used to refer to as “red tops” in the UK; the tabloid / gutter press because they typically have a red banner with the name of the paper on the front page, although some of the worst modern examples of that (the Mail & Express) actually don’t have a red banner. In the mostly online world, that obviously needs to cover online-only and broadcast media forms too so “red top” seems to be falling out of use.

Apparently though, it’s actually a reference to totally fake or low-quality news sites, masquerading as legitimate outlets purely to push misinformation and is named for the “Mystery Meat” by-product that resembles pink slime used as filler in some processed meats (mmm, yummy!) Defining characteristics include:

If you’re thinking that mostly means the likes of Reach’s portfolio of garbage and so-called “independent journalist” sites, take a look at the default Microsoft Edge homepage on MSN, which would totally qualify. It’s clearly largely AI-generated, highly formulaic/template based, seldom provides any analysis or context, pretends to be local (because clickbait sites that include a country’s name in them are *totally* relevant to another country entirely), and, yup, is financed by someone with a definite narrative to push. It clearly only exists to get people to doomscroll and generate clicks and ad-revenue. Bingo! Full house!

Apple Faces $5.7 Billion Patent Infringement Verdict Over iPhone And Apple Watch Haptics

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“A federal jury in San Diego awarded Taction Technology more than $5.7 billion in damages Friday after finding that Apple infringed claims from two haptics patents,” reports CNBC:
Taction sued Apple in 2021 in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California. The company alleged that Apple was improperly “capitalizing on Taction’s innovation and success” by selling devices that infringed on its vibration technology, according to the complaint. Apple initially won dismissal in 2023, and the Federal Circuit later revived the case....

Taction argued that Apple’s “Taptic Engine,” which is embedded in its Apple Watches and iPhones, uses its inventions without proper license or authority.
Taction’s lead counsel told CNBC “Taction waited five and a half years for this case to get to trial, so it was a long time coming.”

CNBC also reported that the jury “did not find Apple’s infringement willful” — and that Apple said they’d appeal.

haptics history

By jsepeta • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Taction Technology is a San Diego-based audio technology company that was founded and incorporated around 2014. The Patents Involved in the Apple LawsuitThe high-profile patent infringement lawsuit centers on tactile transducer technology (utilizing dampening systems, magnets, and ferrofluid to handle low-frequency audio and haptic feedback). The foundational patents were created, filed, and issued within the following timeframes: U.S. Patent No. 10,659,885 (“Systems and methods for generating damped electromagnetically actuated planar motion for audio-frequency vibrations”): Filed on October 3, 2019, and officially issued on May 19, 2020.U.S. Patent No. 10,820,117: A closely related continuation patent sharing the same core technical specification, issued later in 2020.*(Note: Taction originally filed the federal lawsuit against Apple in 2021, which recently went to trial resulting in a major jury verdict.)

Now wait, when did Apple add haptics to the Apple Watch?
Apple’s First Device with Haptics
Apple Watch (2014): Apple first introduced its proprietary Taction Engine (branded as the Taptic Engine) in the original Apple Watch released in late 2014 to simulate physical taps on the wrist.
iPhone 6s (2015): The technology was brought to the iPhone lineup the following year with the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus.

So Taptics didn’t start operating as a company until the time Apple built haptics into the Apple Watch. And they didn’t file for a patent until 5 years later. That’s sus.

Sony: Released the DualShock controller for the original PlayStation in 1997, which introduced built-in dual eccentric rotating mass (ERM) motors to deliver rumble feedback. (Note: While Nintendo introduced the plug-in Rumble Pak accessory earlier in 1997, Sony’s DualShock was the first mainstream controller to build native haptic motors directly into the standard hardware).
Microsoft: Included dual rumble motors right from its entry into the console market with the launch of the original Xbox (“The Duke” controller) in 2001.

So haptic technology had been around in popular gaming products for 17 years prior to the Apple Watch and 22 years prior to Taptics filing their patent.

Taptics is a patent troll. They can Fuck Right Off.

Re:haptics history

By Luthair • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Just because haptics existed prior to the patent doesn’t mean that the method outlined in the patent isn’t novel. I’m not a domain expert, and from the contents of your post you obviously aren’t either and it wouldn’t be the first time that Apple decided to use someone else’s technology without paying for it.

Re:haptics history

By tlhIngan • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Taction probably is a troll, but ever since Apple sued Samsung for round corners design patent infringement, I figure that made Apple a patent troll too, and every patent fight they lose is karma. I’m on Taction’s side for that reason alone.

And let the ignorance of the rounded corners patent show.

The rounded corners patent was a design patent. The Taction patent is a utility patent. If you don’t know the difference, well, a utility patent is on something the thing does. A design patent is on something it looks like.

They are patents in that everything is AND - you must have something AND something AND something AND something … If you lack one of those things, you are much more likely to win a patent lawsuit.

With that in mind, the Apple patent is simple - rounded corners, a tray with icons and a app selector that scrolls left and right. Samsung had that to a T. They literally copied the UI. Why didn’t Apple go after Google? Because Google didn’t. They had rounded corners, an app drawer at the bottom, BUT, not an app selector - because Android had widgets you could put up.on the screen. They had a separate app drawer that showed all the apps. Those two differences meant “rounded corners” patent wasn’t valid on Android in general.

It’s just like how the McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit was much more than hot coffee and once you understand that, the lawsuit made much more sense. (McDonald’s purposely sold overly hot coffee to save money on coffee grounds as it let them extract more coffee from them. They were told time and time again it was too hot to serve but they persisted. When it happened, the victim asked for a mere $30,000 for medical bills. But that was rejected, despite the fact that McDonald’s paid out medical expenses for previous occurrences. And while she won millions, it was reduced on appeal to under a million dollars).

It’s much more than rounded corners. It’s literally Samsung redesigning the UI to match the iPhone in functionality. When Samsung lost, they basically added widgets to the screen which was enough to work around the patent. Eventually they decided to make TouchWiz their own.

Re:haptics history

By sabbede • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
True, but the dates still don’t line up. They claim Apple reverse engineered a headset ordered in April 2017 and delivered the next year, even though Apple filed a patent in March 2016. Also, since that headset arrived in 2018, and they’re claiming Apple violated the patents starting in September 2017, that doesn’t make sense. They also seem to claim Apple was aware of their 2020 patent… in 2017?