Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Hydropower Line From Quebec Could Power a Million NYC Homes
  2. New ‘Vibe Coded’ AI Translation Tool Splits the Video Game Preservation Community
  3. ‘Pokemon Go’ Players Unknowingly Trained Delivery Robots With 30 Billion Images
  4. Nvidia Bets On OpenClaw, But Adds a Security Layer Via NemoClaw
  5. Polymarket Gamblers Threaten To Kill Journalist Over Iran Missile Story
  6. Encyclopedia Britannica Sues OpenAI For Copyright, Trademark Infringement
  7. Apple Launches AirPods Max 2 With Better ANC, Live Translation
  8. Meta Signs $27 Billion AI Infrastructure Deal With Nebius
  9. Data Centers Overtake Offices In US Construction-Spending Shift
  10. Court Rules TCL’s ‘QLED’ TVs Aren’t Truly QLED
  11. Animated ‘Firefly’ Reboot In Development With Nathan Fillion
  12. Sodium-Ion Battery Tested for Grid-Scale Storage in Wisconsin
  13. Android, Epic, and What’s Really Behind Google’s ‘Existential’ Threat to F-Droid
  14. FSF Threatens Anthropic Over Infringed Copyright: Share Your LLMs Freely
  15. The UK Will Invest Billions to Build a Nuclear Fusion Industry

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Hydropower Line From Quebec Could Power a Million NYC Homes

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The Champlain Hudson Power Express, a $6 billion, 339-mile buried transmission line, will soon deliver Canadian hydropower from Hydro-Quebec to New York City. The project could supply up to 20% of the city’s electricity and power roughly one million homes throughout the year. “This is far and away the largest project I have ever worked on,” said Bob Harrison, who has worked in infrastructure for 40 years and is the head of engineering for the Champlain Hudson Power Express. “We like to say it’s the largest project you’ll never see.” The New York Times reports:
The massive power project, expected to provide energy to a million New York City customers a year, travels underground and underwater, from the northern plains at the Canadian border to the filled-in marshlands of coastal Queens, much of it loosely following the Hudson River. Its construction included the underwater installation of more than two million feet of cable imported from Sweden. It also required special boats, loaded with equipment that could shoot water jets deep into the sediment, to create trenches for the cable. Then, when it came to placing cable beneath the landscape, more than 700 land-use easements were needed, plus an additional 1.55 million feet of cable.

The Champlain Hudson Power Express has found a way to plug into the city, but it wasn’t easy. The work included 10 new manholes and more than three miles of new underground circuitry, according to Con Edison, the city’s primary electricity provider. “It was literally a hand weave under the streets of Queens,” said Jennifer Laird-White, the head of external affairs for Transmission Developers. The hydropower travels from Canada via two buried cables that are as round as cantaloupes. Those lines snake for hundreds of miles under a lake, several rivers (including the Hudson for about 90 miles) and through buried trenches alongside train tracks and roads. The cables resurface in Astoria, Queens, where a converter station shapes, filters and refines the raw power into a product that New Yorkers can consume.

In two cavernous rooms that could be mistaken for “Star Wars” sets, the electricity flows through 30 hanging structures encased in what look like metallic, dinosaurlike exoskeletons. Each one weighs about as much as a small humpback whale and contains microprocessors, thousands of valves and fiber wires. “I am still wowed when I walk into that facility,” said Mr. Harrison, the engineer. “I mean, it is just mind-boggling.”

Quebec use 99% hydro & from renewable electric

By ls671 • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Just in case some don’t know, Quebec use 99% hydro and from renewable electricity and still has quite a bit leftover to export:
https://www.hydroquebec.com/ab…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

New ‘Vibe Coded’ AI Translation Tool Splits the Video Game Preservation Community

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
Since Andrej Karpathy coined the term “vibe coding” just over a year ago, we’ve seen a rapid increase in both the capabilities and popularity of using AI models to throw together quick programming projects with less human time and effort than ever before. One such vibe-coded project, Gaming Alexandria Researcher, launched over the weekend as what coder Dustin Hubbard called an effort to help organize the hundreds of scanned Japanese gaming magazines he’s helped maintain at clearinghouse Gaming Alexandria over the years, alongside machine translations of their OCR text.

A day after that project went public, though, Hubbard was issuing an apology to many members of the Gaming Alexandria community who loudly objected to the use of Patreon funds for an error-prone AI-powered translation effort. The hubbub highlights just how controversial AI tools remain for many online communities, even as many see them as ways to maximize limited funds and man-hours. “I sincerely apologize,” Hubbard wrote in his apology post. “My entire preservation philosophy has been to get people access to things we’ve never had access to before. I felt this project was a good step towards that, but I should have taken more into consideration the issues with AI.”
“I’m very, very disappointed to see [Gaming Alexandria], one of the foremost organizations for preserving game history, promoting the use of AI translation and using Patreon funds to pay for AI licenses,” game designer and Legend of Zelda historian Max Nichols wrote in a post on Bluesky over the weekend. “I have cancelled my Patreon membership and will no longer promote the organization.”

Nichols later deleted his original message (archived here), saying he was “uncomfortable with the scale of reposts and anger” it had generated in the community. However, he maintained his core criticism: that Gemini-generated translations inevitably introduce inaccuracies that make them unreliable for scholarly use.

In a follow-up, he also objected to Patreon funds being used to pay for AI tools that produce what he called “untrustworthy” translations, arguing they distort history and are not valid sources for research. "… It’s worthless and destructive: these translations are like looking at history through a clownhouse mirror,” he added.

It’s the worst it’ll be

By cliffjumper222 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Geez, what a silly over reaction. AI translation is freaking amazing, and today is the worst it will be. Just put a disclaimer that the translation is the best available at this time and will be improved over time. The “I’ve canceled my subscription ire” is ai-phobia.
Oh là là, quelle réaction excessive et idiote. La traduction par IA est carrément incroyable, et aujourd’hui est le pire niveau qu’elle atteindra. Il suffit de mettre un avertissement disant que la traduction est la meilleure disponible actuellement et qu’elle s’améliorera avec le temps. Cette colère du style “j’ai annulé mon abonnement”, c’est de l’IA-phobie.
Vaya, qué reacción exagerada tan tonta. La traducción por IA es malditamente increíble, y hoy es lo peor que va a estar. Solo pon un aviso de que la traducción es la mejor disponible en este momento y que mejorará con el tiempo. Esa ira de “he cancelado mi suscripción” es simple IA-fobia.
Meine Güte, was für eine alberne Überreaktion. KI-Übersetzung ist wahnsinnig toll, und heute ist sie so schlecht, wie sie nie wieder sein wird. Setz einfach einen Disclaimer drunter, dass dies die aktuell beste verfügbare Übersetzung ist und sie mit der Zeit verbessert wird. Dieser Zorn à la Ich habe mein Abo gekündigt‘ ist reine KI-Phobie.
(No Patreon Funds Were Spent Obtaining These Translations)

I am unkomfortable with

By thegarbz • Score: 3 Thread

People using software with built in spell chequers to write. I hereby will not be supporting anyone who posts anything using any fancy digital tool to right.
How dare people use tools to do work.

How dare they use funds as they see fit to achieve exactly what I paid for. It’s unacceptable! I demand that they do their job the way I expect them too. Next time I sea any of this spell chequed bullshit I will be taking my $10 contribution elsewhere.

Regards
Karen.

Stop being stubborn

By allo • Score: 3 Thread

Did you have a look at the “boycott projects that use AI” software? It is growing and growing. Because coders know how to use efficient tools. If you want to refuse anything that touches AI, you need to become a hermit. You’re fighting a losing fight instead of embracing what great tools you get for free. You don’t need to use them, but at least do not stand in the way of others.

‘Pokemon Go’ Players Unknowingly Trained Delivery Robots With 30 Billion Images

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More than 30 billion images captured by Pokemon Go players have helped train a visual mapping system developed by Niantic. The technology is now being used to guide delivery robots from Coco Robotics through city streets where GPS often struggles. Popular Science reports:
This week, Niantic Spatial, part of the team behind Pokemon Go, announced a partnership with Coco Robotics, a company that makes short-distance delivery robots for food and groceries. Soon, those robot couriers will scoot around sidewalks using Niantic’s Visual Positioning System (VPS)— a navigation tool that can reportedly pinpoint location down to a few centimeters just by looking at nearby buildings and landmarks. Niantic trained that VPS model on more than 30 billion images captured by Pokemon Go users, and claims it will help robots operate in areas where GPS falls short. […]

Instead of helping users navigate the way that GPS does, VPS determines where someone is based on their surroundings. That makes Pokemon Go particularly useful as a data source, because players had to physically travel to specific locations and point their phones at various angles. That mapping effort got a significant boost in 2020, when the app added what it called "Field Research,” a feature prompting players to scan real-world statues and landmarks with their cameras in exchange for in-game rewards. A portion of the data also reportedly came from areas known as “Pokemon battle arenas.” Whether players knew it or not, those scans were creating 3D models of the real world that would eventually power the Niantic model. More data means better accuracy, and because Niantic was collecting images of the same locations from many different users, it could capture the same spots across varying weather conditions, lighting, angles, and heights. […]

The idea is that Coco’s robots can use VPS and four cameras mounted around the machine to get a far more precise read on their surroundings. In turn, the well-equipped robot will deliver food on time. On a broader level, Niantic says its partnership with Coco Robotics is part of a longer-term effort to build a "living map" of the world that updates as new data becomes available. Once VPS-equipped delivery robots hit the streets, they will collect even more info that can be fed back into the model to bolster its accuracy further. This kind of continuous, real-world data collection is already central to how self-driving vehicle companies like Waymo and Tesla operate, and is a large part of why that technology has improved so significantly in recent years.

If it’s free…

By TheMiddleRoad • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Then you’re the product.

800 goog 411

By jpellino • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Was a free directory assistance program that was also a training program for Google voice recognition. When they had enough data, they canned the service.

Re:If it’s free…

By MachineShedFred • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Honestly, this is just about the best plan for getting deep involvement in crowdsourced training data I can think of. It’s fucking brilliant.

You come up with a mobile video game where the whole premise is to go around taking pictures of stuff. You co-brand it with a ridiculously popular video game and collectible trading card IP. You back up an armored truck to shovel all the money into.

And then you use that constant firehose of images coming in of urban areas across the globe to train your AI navigation system. Nobody’s personal data is exposed or sold any more than what Google Streetmaps shows.

This doesn’t seem evil to me at all. It seems like a really fucking good business strategy to turn the most expensive part of your business plan into a revenue center.

Re:Should we be outraged?

By CrankyFool • Score: 4, Informative Thread
I’m a Pokemon Go player; been playing it pretty intensely for the last 16 months or so, level 74 (of a max of 80).

Firstly, this is not in any way surprising or upsetting. Niantic’s been pretty clear for a long time now that they were making location-based games for the purpose of training systems.

Secondly, I should note that POGO does not actually require you to take pictures of anything. It’s an option, one way to do what Pokemon Go calls “Field Research Tasks” (FRTs), but “take a scan of that place” FRTs are a small subset of the FRTs you might choose to do (and when I was attempting to get as many as possible on my way to level 74 I ignored all the scanning ones).

Re:If it’s free…

By Simon Garlick • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Niantic started life as an internal team at Google working on monetising location data. Being a revenue centre was the whole point from day one.

Only the “delivery robots” bit of this is actually news. Niantic being a datamining operation that tricked its users into scanning the real world for it is not. Hell Zuboff devoted a chunk of “The Age of Surveillance Capitalism” to it and that book came out in 2019.

Nvidia Bets On OpenClaw, But Adds a Security Layer Via NemoClaw

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During today’s Nvidia GTC keynote, the company introduced NemoClaw, a security-focused stack designed to make the autonomous AI agent platform OpenClaw safer. ZDNet explains how it works:
NemoClaw installs Nvidia’s OpenShell, a new open-source runtime that keeps agents safer to use by enforcing an organization’s policy-based guardrails. OpenShell keeps models sandboxed, adds data privacy protections and additional security for agents, and makes them more scalable. “This provides the missing infrastructure layer beneath claws to give them the access they need to be productive, while enforcing policy-based security, network, and privacy guardrails,” Nvidia said in the announcement. The company built OpenShell with security companies like CrowdStrike, Cisco, and Microsoft Security to ensure it is compatible with other cybersecurity tools.

Nvidia said NemoClaw can be installed in a single command, runs on any platform, and can use any coding agent, including Nvidia’s own Nemotron open model family, on a local system. Through a privacy router, it allows agents to access frontier models in the cloud, which unites local and cloud models to help teach agents how to complete tasks within privacy guardrails, Nvidia explained. Nvidia seems to be hoping that the additional security can make OpenClaw agents more popular and accessible, with less risk than they currently carry. The bigger picture here is how NemoClaw could give companies the added peace of mind to let AI agents complete actions for their employees, where they wouldn’t have previously.
Nvidia did not specify when NemoClaw would be available.

JFC I’m So Confused

By SlashbotAgent • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

So we’ve got Docker containers housing sandboxes, that run javascript code that does API calls to web based LLMs(nobody is running local cause you can’t buy the fucking hardware cuz AI). It’s just an incomprehensible madhouse of spaghetti at this point.

NVIDIA makes no real explanation of how this increases security or how to do the “guardrails”. As if the existing MESS of endless layers of .md and .yaml file declarations aren’t convoluted enough.

And NVIDIA want to bring this to the masses? I thought I was pretty techno-savvy. But, this shit is starting to look like the NFT bubble. Nobody know what it is or what it does, but “You gotta have it!”.

That “security layer” is going to be a farce

By ffkom • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Irresponsible people (including irresponsible employees) have evidently shown a lot of interest in automating away all kinds of stuff by installing “OpenClaw” and giving it access to all kinds of sensitive information and credentials to act on their behalf. If you run “OpenClaw” in some sandbox that does not give it access to all that sensitive information and credentials, the purpose of “get it done for me, I cannot be bothered” will not get fulfilled, and therefore that sandbox will either be intentionally be circumvented or the bot becomes useless in comparison to what people (ab)use OpenClaw for. No kind of “security layer” can change that.

New form of absurdity

By Big Hairy Gorilla • Score: 3 Thread
Does anyone know why we want this ? Grampa wants to know.

Social media for robots? Futurama guy, random quote required here.

Polymarket Gamblers Threaten To Kill Journalist Over Iran Missile Story

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Times of Israel, written by journalist Emanuel Fabian:
On Tuesday, March 10, a massive explosion shook the city of Beit Shemesh, just outside Jerusalem, in yet another Iranian ballistic missile attack during the ongoing war. Rescue services scrambled to the scene in search of possible casualties, though as it turned out, the projectile had struck a forested area just outside the city, around 500 meters from homes. On The Times of Israel’s liveblog that day, I reported that the missile had hit an open area and no injuries were caused, citing the rescue services, as well as footage that emerged showing the massive explosion caused by the missile’s warhead. But what I thought was a seemingly minor incident during the war has turned into days of harassment and death threats against me.
Emanuel began receiving numerous emails, messages and phone calls from individuals urging him to change the report to say the missile had been intercepted. “It was indeed a little strange to receive the same question, about something relatively inconsequential, from two different people within a day,” he said. The connection eventually became clear after he noticed two users on X responding to his story with apparent ties to Polymarket. “There are people saying that they have received word from you that the missile strike in Beit Shemesh on March 10th was in fact intercepted, is this true or did no such interaction occur?” one user wrote. Another asked, “Was there any video of the actual impact?”
The rules of this particular Polymarket bet state: “This market will resolve to ‘Yes’ if Iran initiates a drone, missile, or air strike on Israel’s soil on the listed date in Israel Time (GMT+2). Otherwise, this market will resolve to ‘No’.” However, there is a clause: “Missiles or drones that are intercepted… will not be sufficient for a ‘Yes’ resolution, regardless of whether they land on Israeli territory or cause damage.”

At that point, Emanuel realized his “minor report” of a missile strike had suddenly become part of a “betting war,” with traders who had wagered ‘No’ on an Iranian strike on Israel on March 10 pressuring him to change the article so they could win their bets.

When he refused, some of the Polymarket gamblers escalated to harassment, fabricated messages, bribery attempts, and explicit threats against him and his family. “You have no idea how much you’ve put yourself at risk,” wrote a user named Haim. “Today is the most significant day of your career. You have two choices: either believe that we have the capabilities, and after you make us lose $900,000 we will invest no less than that to finish you. Or end this with money in your pocket, and also earn back the life you had until now.”

After receiving no response, Haim sent him another series of messages: “You are choosing to go to war knowing that you will lose your life as you’ve grown accustomed to it — for nothing.” He later added: “You have exactly a few hours left to fix your attempt at influencing [the market]. It would be stupid of you to ignore this.” According to Emanuel, the messages also included detailed threats referencing his neighborhood, parents, and family.

Re:An unrestricted, unregulated

By Locke2005 • Score: 5, Informative Thread
“Your winnings, sir”.

Re:Meal Team Six: The Keyboard Warrior Chronicles.

By Presence Eternal • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I genuinely and wholeheartedly believed this kind of thing would be good, because it would create a world where ideologies could get called out on their ability to predict consequences. I see now that I failed to predict the consequence of people being desperate for lies to be true. I feel pretty stupid in retrospect. Kind of…ignored a lesson I’ve already learned a few times the punchy way. Oof.

Re:Polymarket users need to get a life

By nightflameauto • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Seriously, if a person is betting six figures on the whether an interceptor worked, that person needs to re-evaluate their priorities.

I have this sneaking suspicion some top members of our (USA) government are involved in placing at least some of those bets.

Re: Meal Team Six: The Keyboard Warrior Chronicles

By ArghBlarg • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Good.

Re:Meal Team Six: The Keyboard Warrior Chronicles.

By Samantha Wright • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That is ideal. Economic growth is not an unqualified net positive for society, and lending is the root cause of most of its ills. With borrowing as it is practised by hegemons today, there are only two endings: either they must close the loop, using the dirty money to architect a revenue-extracting monster that milks non-borrowed money to pay off the debts, or the system collapses under its own weight, like Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme in the 2008 financial crisis. Debt creates its own incentives to abuse the commons and impoverish the public.

Of course, not being content with abusing the commons, there are also implications for abuse of single wealthy lenders, too. It would also effectively outlaw short-selling, since that consists of borrowing assets—the items being traded—then destroying the price, and pocketing the difference. If you think about it, this isn’t even adding value to the economy; it’s just skimming value off the inventory of whomever you’re borrowing from.

If anyone tried this with a physical asset the lender would be apoplectic: “You borrowed 50 cars from me, sold them, destroyed the market for that model, and bought them back at a pittance. Now my inventory of 1,000 cars of the same model is worth a thousand pittances! Why would I ever do business with you ever again?!”—it only works as a system if the lender assumes that the assets will recover value over time, but the degenerate gambler doing the borrowing is incentivised to outright ruin the assets they’re borrowing beyond any hope of recovery. In a sense they’re even less ethical than corporate raiders, since both the company who issued the stock and the lender are being abused.

Encyclopedia Britannica Sues OpenAI For Copyright, Trademark Infringement

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Encyclopedia Britannica has sued OpenAI, alleging its AI models were trained on nearly 100,000 copyrighted articles and sometimes reproduce or misattribute passages to the encyclopedia. The lawsuit also claims trademark infringement and argues tools like ChatGPT divert traffic away from Britannica and Merriam-Webster sites. Engadget reports:
More specifically, Britannica alleged that OpenAI illegally used its “copyrighted content at a massive scale” when training its AI models. Not just with training, the encyclopedia company claimed that ChatGPT’s responses to user queries sometimes contain “full or partial verbatim reproductions of [Britannica’s] copyright articles.”

Along with claims of copyright violations, Britannica argued that OpenAI was also responsible for trademark infringement. According to the lawsuit, ChatGPT generates “made-up content or ‘hallucinations’ and falsely attributes them” to Encyclopedia Britannica. The lawsuit doesn’t specify an amount for monetary damages, but Britannica is also seeking an injunction to prevent OpenAI from repeating these accusations.

All your everything are belong to us…

By jenningsthecat • Score: 3 Thread

Given today’s regulatory environment, Encyclopedia Britannica may as well be howling at the moon for all the good this suit will do them. Big Tech increasingly engages in de facto governance, with the tacit permission of the elected government. And even if there’s the possibility of getting a favourable court ruling, EB will be mired in an endless litany of appeals that they probably don’t have enough money to see through to the end.

It’s the Golden Rule, as in ‘he who has the gold makes the rules’. God I hate the corporatocracy.

Re:All your everything are belong to us…

By SumDog • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
> In the US we have been watching state of state pass age verification rules etc, despite big tech howling

What? Big tech WANTS age verification. That should be pretty obvious by now. Who do you think is lobbying for it? If big tech didn’t want it, it would be crushed. Age verification benefits Palentir, Meta, Microsoft, Google, Oracle and many others. It’s NOT about age verification. It’s the first step towards full digital identification and removal of all anonymity.

> The courts have forced open the app stores.

Nope. Their court order effectively does nothing when Google retaliates by forcing everyone who wants to make a distributable Android app send Google their fucking Government ID!

https://keepandroidopen.org/

I Hope They Win

By machineghost • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The AI companies have been acting like Uber (ie. breaking existing laws with the assumption they’re “too big to catch”).

However, this is as clear of a case of copyright violation as there could be. I hope Britannica wins!

Britannica is an AI company itself now

By EvilSS • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
They are pushing back against competition from Open AI and others, but not for the reason many think:

While it still offers an online edition of its encyclopedia, as well as the Merriam-Webster dictionary, Britannica’s biggest business today is selling online education software to schools and libraries, the software it hopes to supercharge with AI. …

Britannica’s CEO Jorge Cauz also told the Times about the company’s Britannica AI chatbot, which allows users to ask questions about its vast database of encyclopedic knowledge that it collected over two centuries from vetted academics and editors. The company similarly offers chatbot software for customer service use cases.

Britannica told the Times it is expecting revenue to double from two years ago, to $100 million.

https://gizmodo.com/encycloped…

They are pinning their future on providing AI products trained on their encyclopedias and research notes, putting them in somewhat direct competition with the other AI companies.

Apple Launches AirPods Max 2 With Better ANC, Live Translation

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Apple has quietly announced the AirPods Max 2, featuring improved active noise cancellation, an H2 chip, and new features like adaptive audio and AI-powered real-time translation. Like the original model, these headphones start at $549. The Verge reports:
As noted by Apple, the AirPods Max 2 offer active noise-cancellation that’s 1.5 times more effective when compared to its predecessor. Transparency mode, which allows you to hear your surroundings while wearing the headphones, also sounds “more natural” with the AirPods Max 2, according to Apple.

The AirPods Max 2 support 24-bit, 48kHz lossless audio when connected with a USB-C cable, as well as offer up to 20 hours of listening time on a single charge. Other capabilities include loud sound reduction, a camera remote feature that works by pressing the digital crown to take a photo or start a recording, as well as a personalized volume feature that “automatically fine-tunes the listening experience” based on your preferences over time.

Re:My biggest problem with the AirPods Max 1…

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Modding you down for ignoring your cats.

Better ANC,

By rossdee • Score: 3 Thread

I think the African National Congress went downhill after the death of Nelson Mandela, so no doubt the Apple fans in South Africa will appreciate that.

Meta Signs $27 Billion AI Infrastructure Deal With Nebius

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AI infrastructure company Nebius signed a deal to provide up to $27 billion in AI computing capacity to Meta over the next five years, including a guaranteed $12 billion purchase by 2027. Reuters reports:
Under the agreement, Meta will also buy an additional $15 billion worth of capacity planned by Nebius over the coming five years if it is not sold to other customers, giving the contract a total value of up to $27 billion, Nebius said. The deal is the latest example of U.S. tech giants’ efforts to supplement their own AI data-centre build-outs by locking in scarce GPU and power capacity from “neocloud” providers like Nebius. Nebius CEO Arkady Volozh said the latest Meta deal would help “accelerate the build-out and growth of our core AI cloud business.”
Further reading: Data Centers Overtake Offices In US Construction-Spending Shift

Great news, but…

By TwistedGreen • Score: 3 Thread

What does Meta need all this AI compute capacity for? Running Moltbook at scale?

Re:Great news, but…

By nightflameauto • Score: 5, Informative Thread

What does Meta need all this AI compute capacity for? Running Moltbook at scale?

You need a *LOT* of datacenters to refactor all data available on the internetwebz every couple months when they release a new model.

Fact check for Meta

By gtall • Score: 3 Thread

You screwed up and actually you signed a $27 Billion deal with Nebulous. It pays to read the fine print and not have a dolt for a CEO.

Data Centers Overtake Offices In US Construction-Spending Shift

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg:
Spending on data center projects in the U.S. has exploded, surpassing offices for the first time at the end of last year. It’s a trend Matt Kunz saw early on when Meta built a computing hub outside Columbus, Ohio. Other tech companies soon swarmed into the area, drawn by its stable economy, university talent pipeline and ample power, water and land, said Kunz, vice president and general manager at Turner Construction Co., the firm that led Meta’s build-out. Since Meta broke ground in 2017, it’s expanded its data center campus, and Amazon.com Inc., Alphabet Inc.‘s Google and Microsoft Corp. made plans to join it nearby.

“When one shows up, almost all the other ones tend to follow,” Kunz said. For Turner, a construction giant responsible for supertall office skyscrapers, sports stadiums and cultural venues around the globe, data centers are commanding more of its bandwidth. The company completed $9.4 billion of the projects last year, more than five times its 2020 total. Last month, Turner announced it was chosen as one of the contractors on a $10 billion data center for Meta in Indiana. Tech companies’ needs for AI processing facilities have made data centers the latest darling of the real estate industry. The properties are figuring heavily into portfolios of major investors such as Blackstone, Brookfield Asset Management and KKR, on a bet that long-term demand for computing power will continue to grow. At the same time, office development has slowed as cities across the U.S. contend with vacancies that have piled up since the Covid lockdowns.

Construction spending for data centers has climbed steadily in recent years, while outlays for general office projects headed downward, U.S. Census data show. The two crossed paths in December, with roughly $3.57 billion spent on data centers that month, compared with $3.49 billion for offices, according to preliminary estimates. The shift is likely to continue and “may perpetuate itself even further as AI is utilized for automating day-to-day jobs,” said Andy Cvengros, co-lead of U.S. data center markets for the brokerage Jones Lang LaSalle Inc. “It’s going to directly impact the amount of office space people need.”
According to Christopher McFadden, senior vice president at Turner, more than a third of the company’s backlog is now tied to data centers.
“We’re going to be building these at this scale for years to come,” McFadden said. “There’s a lot of wind in the sail.”

Not surprised really

By alvinrod • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Is this at all surprising when there’s a lot of empty office space in many large cities? Unless a business is looking to build somewhere new, there’s very little reason to put up a new office building when there’s a lot of available space at the moment.

We’re going to be building these…

By Tailhook • Score: 3 Thread

We’re going to be building these at this scale for years to come

LOL.

Prophetic much?

When this one pops, it’s going to be biblical.

On the bright side

By nedlohs • Score: 3 Thread

New office space is at least one thing we need less of than new data centers.

Humans Out, AI In

By Snowdog • Score: 3 Thread

AKA workplaces for AI are replacing workplaces for humans.

Court Rules TCL’s ‘QLED’ TVs Aren’t Truly QLED

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A German court ruled that TCL misled consumers by marketing certain TVs as “QLED" when they “do not deliver the color reproduction expected from QLED TVs.” It has ordered the company to stop advertising or selling those models in Germany. TechRadar reports:
The case was filed by Samsung, which claimed that TCL was running deceptive advertising, and more court cases on the same topic are coming in other countries, including the US. The lawsuits all make the same claim: that what TCL calls a QLED isn’t a QLED as it’s commonly understood, and that consumers are being mis-sold TVs as a result. The court found that TCL’s quantum dot TVs, such as the QLED870 series available in Germany, didn’t deliver the characteristics of a quantum dot LED, and that consumers were being misled as a result.

The tests were commissioned by Seoul chemicals company Hansol Chemical (which, it’s worth noting, works with Samsung, a key TCL rival, and which heavily promoted the results of these tests alongside launching the court case) and carried out by Geneva’s SGS and the UK’s Intertek. According to ET News (via Google Translate), “no indium (In) or cadmium (Cd) was detected in three TCL QD TV models. Indium and cadmium are essential materials that cannot be omitted for QD implementation… if neither is present, QD technology cannot be said to have been applied.” You can see the test results here.

TCL disputed the findings — “The QD content may vary depending on the supplier, but it definitely contains cadmium,” it responded — and published its own tests, including a test by SGS, the same firm that conducted tests for Hansol. The results contradicted Hansol Chemical’s tests, but those tests used a different methodology: where TCL’s tests focused on TCL’s quantum dot films, Hansol’s commissioned tests were on finished TCL TVs. […] Hansol Chemical has filed a complaint against TCL with the US Federal Trade Commission, alleging false advertising, and TCL is also facing class action lawsuits in several US states making the same claim. TCL isn’t alone here: Hisense has also been targeted in the US.

The finding is not comprehensive

By sentiblue • Score: 3 Thread
If the claim was all true then it’s not just a misleading advertising. Customers paid for QLED quality and didn’t get it. The company must be forced to pay back to all affected consumers worldwide, once all the lawsuits in various countries finalize.

Pot calling kettle black

By anoncoward69 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Common we all knew they choose the term QLED to at quick glance make people think they were getting an OLED TVs.

So customers were mis-LED?

By Cyrano de Maniac • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Couldn’t restrain myself. The entire point of my post is in the subject line.

Animated ‘Firefly’ Reboot In Development With Nathan Fillion

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An animated reboot of Firefly is in early development at 20th Television Animation with Nathan Fillion involved. The project has Joss Whedon’s blessing and will be run by writers Tara Butters and Marc Guggenheim, with early concept art already underway. According to the Hollywood Reporter, “The series would be set in the timeline between the original, 11-episode TV run in 2002 and the 2005 feature film continuation, Serenity.” You can watch Fillion announce the Firefly reboot on Instagram.

When the first episode of the original series premiered in late 2002, Slashdot reader fm6 wrote:
“Firefly, Joss Whedon’s ‘anti-Trek drama’ premieres tonight, on Fox, 8 E/P. I normally despise hypespeak, but this time it’s the only language that fits: this is groundbreaking, mind-boggling, totally original. I’ve seen a bootleg of the pilot (which, unfortunately, the network is holding back) and I promise you this is the most geek-friendly SF you’ve seen in a long time. Yes, more so than Star Trek and B5, and way past Star Wars. I’ve never seen the future so skillfully, realistically, and lovingly portrayed. Here is the Official Site and a leading fan site.”
“This is the single new show this season I have added a season pass for to the old Tivo,” CmdrTaco said at the time. “But I’ll probably watch it live. This looks like it could be as good as we hope.”

Re:Animated? sigh.

By UnknowingFool • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The show was 20 years ago. They want the new series to be set between the original show and the movie. To use the same actors, it would be easier for the show to be animated than try to make the actors 20 years younger. The alternative would be new actors to play the same characters which would not be favorably received.

Also voice acting would require less time of the actors, and they do not all have to record their lines at the same time. Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, Gina Torres, and Morena Baccarin might have other acting roles right now.

Economics

By JBMcB • Score: 5, Informative Thread
The new streaming economics are that, unless you are an established multi-billion dollar IP, like Star Trek, Marvel, Lord of the Rings, or Game of Thrones, you aren’t going to get enough money together for live-action anything beyond a simple detective show or medical drama.

There’s a rare exception now and then - bestselling novel adaptation, established director or writer, etc… Whedon has a bad name right now, so nobody is going to be throwing money at him. His last huge-budget TV show, The Nevers, got pulled from HBO before it was finished airing.

Re:Animated? sigh.

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Let’s not play that game - “AI is bad, except now when I don’t want someone replacing a character I liked when I was younger”.

Use a different, LIVING, voice actor.

Re:Animated? sigh.

By dgatwood • Score: 4 Thread

Let’s not play that game - “AI is bad, except now when I don’t want someone replacing a character I liked when I was younger”.

Use a different, LIVING, voice actor.

Because this is a continuation of an existing show and the original actor is deceased, if done properly, it could fall solidly on the “okay” side of my moral/ethical bright line rule.

The area in between those two extremes is where it gets grey, e.g. if they have the family’s permission, but don’t pay them anything, or if they don’t have the family’s permission. In those cases, I would err on the side of calling it dubious, but others may disagree, depending on the details.

Re:Animated? sigh.

By fleeped • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

You can honor the memory of a fallen member of the cast by hiring some other actor (and give them an opportunity), like the original one was, and the money goes to the arts. But no, let’s use AI, where the money goes to big tech and some family who had nothing to do with anything besides being blood related, while at the same time reducing opportunities for all future actors.

Sodium-Ion Battery Tested for Grid-Scale Storage in Wisconsin

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“A new type of battery storage is about to be deployed on the Midwestern grid for the first time,” reports Electrek:
Sodium-ion battery storage manufacturer Peak Energy and global energy company RWE Americas will pilot a passively cooled sodium-ion battery system in eastern Wisconsin on the Midcontinent Independent System Operator network — the first sodium-ion deployment on that grid. Peak Energy says its technology is specifically designed for grid-scale storage and leverages sodium-ion chemistry’s inherent stability. Unlike many lithium-ion systems, sodium-ion batteries don’t require active cooling and can operate over a wide temperature range without losing performance.

That simpler design could make a meaningful dent in the cost of storing electricity. According to Peak Energy, its system cuts the lifetime cost of stored energy by an average of $70 per kilowatt-hour. That’s roughly half the total cost of a typical battery system today. The company says it achieves those savings by removing energy-hungry cooling systems, eliminating routine maintenance requirements, and reducing the need to overbuild storage capacity to account for battery degradation over time…

If the Wisconsin pilot proves successful, it could open the door to wider adoption of sodium-ion batteries for large-scale energy storage across the US.

Re:YouTuber technology connections

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Which part of what he said do you disagree with? You haven’t addressed the subject at all. You’ve wandered off topic because you’re triggered and are arguing that he has problems? womp womp

Cheaper Batteries == Game over

By greytree • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Solar/Wind + Cheaper Batteries + a bit of Nuclear = Game Over for coal and oil

Even Trump can’t stop this.

Re:Cheaper Batteries == Game over

By Mspangler • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Trump doesn’t need to stop it, the wind stops all by itself. Posting once again the graph I look at every day…

https://transmission.bpa.gov/b…

The green line is mostly wind, installed capacity is 2800 MW. The green line also includes 138 MW of solar. Yesterday was cloudy so it didn’t help much.

One other thing I’ll note is that Wisconsin will definitely test the temperature tolerance of the battery. 90 F in the summer (more if it’s in town) and -20 in the winter (less if it’s in the country).

Re:YouTuber technology connections

By karmawarrior • Score: 5, Informative Thread

So someone shouldn’t comment about the insanity of our energy policy making on an article about alternative methods of mass grid-level electricity storage.

Why? Because it hurts your fee-fees to see billionaires be criticized? Are you one of these people who, despite the overwhelming evidence since… well the dot-com era… is just unable to see billionaires as anyone other than your “better” who must be “better” because they got richer than you despite the fact you didn’t because of bad luck and a possible lack of being a greedy psychopath?

You think Musk is a genius? I used to think he might be smart until he started talking about topics I happen to know quite well. Most of Slashdot is full of people who realized he was an idiot roundabout the time he bought Twitter and started talking about firing people based upon printouts of code done the previous week and bullshit about microservices.

Perhaps mate it’s time you got therapy.

Re:factoid

By tlhIngan • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Nuclear about $10 billion to build, varies wildly between countries but $10 billion in a sane country. No back up battery needed.

“No battery needed” only because the grid has more nimble sources of power.

Solar, wind, nuclear are non-dispatchable - that is, they cannot meet demand for electricity. If you turn on a light, and the sun or wind isn’t blowing, the lightbulb won’t turn on. But if you turn OFF a light, the nuclear plant might meltdown.

Now, that’s being dramatic, but that’s the truth - a nuclear plant takes hours to increase or decrease its output. The duck curve is needed so nuclear plants can plan their power generation around it.

For a stable grid, this means you need to curtail generation of solar and wind - that is, they need to produce more power than demanded. For nuclear, the opposite is true - you need to make sure it never generates close to what is needed - it must always run under demand.

It is impossible to run a grid on nuclear energy alone. Typically, this isn’t a problem because hydroelectric, natural gas, and to a limited extent coal plants are dispatchable sources of power - they can ramp up and down within minutes. When demand peaks, they can be brought online and within 5-10 minutes be making up demand.

You want to run a nuclear plant, you need batteries as well to both supply and make up for the mismatch in demand.

If the nuclear plant is producing too much energy, then the battery can soak up the excess in the time it takes to ramp production down. If the nuclear plant isn’t producing enough energy the battery can provide the deficit until it ramps up.

Nuclear isn’t magic - it’s a slow lumbering beast we operate very conservatively because at no point can it produce too much power without something to absorb it. Battery technology is getting good enough this can be an option. So a nuclear plant plus battery will likely be required.

Android, Epic, and What’s Really Behind Google’s ‘Existential’ Threat to F-Droid

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Starting in September, even Android developers not in Google’s Play Store will still be required to register with Google to distribute their apps in Brazil, Singapore, Indonesia, and Thailand, with Google continuing “to roll out these requirements globally” four months later. Even developers distributing Android apps on the web for sideloading will be required to register, pay Google a $25 fee, and provide a government ID.

But there’s a new theory on what’s secretly been motivating Google from an unnamed source in the “Keep Android Open” movement, writes long-time Slashdot reader destinyland:
“You can’t separate this really from their ongoing interactions with Epic and the settlement that they came to,” they argue. Twelve days ago Epic Games and Google announced a new proposal for settling their long-running dispute over the legality of alternative app stores on Android phones. (Rather than agreeing to let third-party app stores into their Play Store, Google wants them to continue being sideloaded, promising in a blog post last week that they’ll even offer a “more streamlined” and “simplified” sideloading alternative for rival app stores. “This Registered App Store program will begin outside of the US first, and we intend to bring it to the US as well, subject to court approval.”)

So “developer verification” could be Google’s fallback plan if U.S. courts fail to approve this. “If the Google Play Store has to allow any third-party repository app store, Google essentially has given up all control of the apps. But if they’re able to claw back that control by requiring that all developers, no matter how they distribute their apps, have to register with Google — have to agree to their Terms & Conditions, pay them money, provide identification — then they have a large degree of indirect control over any app that can be developed for the entire platform.”
But that plan threatens millions of people using the alternative F/OSS app distributor F-Droid, since Google also wants to have only one signature attached to Android apps. Marc Prud’hommeaux, a member of F-Droid’s board of directors, says that “all of a sudden breaks all those versions of the application distributed through F-Droid or any other app store!”

Prud’hommeaux says they’ve told Google’s Android team “You know perfectly well that you’re killing F-Droid!” creating an “existential” threat to an app distributor “that has existed happily for over 10 years.” But good things started happening when he created the website Keep Android Open:
There’s now a “huge backlog” of signers for an Open Letter that already includes EFF, the Software Freedom Conservancy, and the Free Software Foundation. He believes Android’s existing Play Protect security “is completely sufficient to handle the particular scenarios they claim that developer verification is meant to address”…

The Keep Android Open site urges developers not to sign up for Android’s early access program when it launches next week. (Instead, they’re asking developers to respond to invites with an email about their concerns — and to spread the word to other developers and organizations in forums and social media posts.) There’s also a petition at Change.org currently signed by 64,000 developers — adding 20,000 new signatures in the last 10 days. And “If you have an Android device, try installing F-Droid!” he adds. Google tracks how many people install these alternative app repositories, and a larger user base means greater consequences from any Android policy changes.

Plus, installing F-Droid “might be refreshing!” Prud’hommeaux says. “You don’t see all the advertisements and promotions and scam and crapware stuff that you see in the commercial app stores!”

Google treats small developers like crap

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Informative Thread
I pulled my apps when Google doxxed Android individual developers on Play Store listings. Yes to comply with EU law, but even for free apps? Or Google Play stores not in the EU?!

For years Google has let big corps break the Developer Distribution Agreement by providing bogus Support contact details such as unmanned email addresses such as noreply@microsoft.com and support@apple.com in breached of the DDA.

Some recommended F-Droid apps

By echo123 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

NewPipe (a super awesome YouTube player w/o ads)

DuckDuckGo mobile browser (I like how easy it is to blow away cookies)

TiefPrompt (a teleprompter)

Re:Some recommended F-Droid apps

By caseih • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Don’t forget Fennec F-Droid, which is a clean build if Firefox mobile. With uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger browsing is a lot safer than with any chrome based browser.

Re:Ads

By SumDog • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
I rarely buy new phones, but I feel your pain. Every few years when I switch phones, I run into the same issues. I hate how non-standard mobile SoCs are and how difficult it is to create real truly free Linux distros of phones:

https://battlepenguin.com/tech…

https://battlepenguin.com/tech…

https://battlepenguin.com/tech…

I slowly moved from just Cyanogen/Lineage+Gapps to Lineage+microG (fake GApps stubs) to a phone with pure LineageOS with no microG or Gapps. If you really need Google maps, they work in the web interface. You just have to click all those annoying “Open in App” popups.

A lot of people are just addicted to shit they don’t really need. Social networking. Shitty banking apps (One of my banks requires Gapps but the other doesn’t, and that’s what I use twice a year when I need to scan checks).

Purism ended up being a totally shitty company. It took years to get my refund and I would never buy any of their devices. I still have an old PinePhone I should get back out and an old Sony XA2 that I should try to get PostmarketOS working on. We really do need good Linux alternative phones.

No mention of GrapheneOS

By caseih • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It’s worth noting this squeeze from Google only applies to Android if you have Google Play Services installed. With absolute rubbish like this coming from Google, secure systems like GrapheneOS are going to be the only way forward, as I see it. GrapheneOS implements secure, isolated sandboxes for Apps and App Stores to run in.

Unless I’m mistaken this allows you to run a normal Google Play app in one sandbox where it meets all of Google’s silly requirements, and then F-Droid apps in another sandbox that is completely free of Google Play.

GrapheneOS is a bit of a hassle, which is why I have been putting it off. But now that Motorola is officially supporting GrapheneOS on some of their new phones, and with Google’s corrupted desire to tax everything, I will soon have to bite the bullet and get GrapheneOS going.

FSF Threatens Anthropic Over Infringed Copyright: Share Your LLMs Freely

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In 2024 Anthropic was sued over claims it infringed copyrights when training LLMs.

But as they try to settle, they may have a problem. The Free Software Foundation announced Friday that Anthropic’s training data apparently even included the book "Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman’s Crusade for Free Software" — for which the Free Software Foundation holds a copyright.
It was published by O’Reilly and by the FSF under the GNU Free Documentation License (GNU FDL). This is a free license allowing use of the work for any purpose without payment.

Obviously, the right thing to do is protect computing freedom: share complete training inputs with every user of the LLM, together with the complete model, training configuration settings, and the accompanying software source code. Therefore, we urge Anthropic and other LLM developers that train models using huge datasets downloaded from the Internet to provide these LLMs to their users in freedom.

We are a small organization with limited resources and we have to pick our battles, but if the FSF were to participate in a lawsuit such as Bartz v. Anthropic and find our copyright and license violated, we would certainly request user freedom as compensation.
“The FSF doesn’t usually sue for copyright infringement,” reads the headline on the FSF’s announcement, “but when we do, we settle for freedom.”

Re:Ducks

By Tom • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That is the problem. “Right to read” was visionary and will really soon be reality.

Given how much capitalism insists on copyright and prosecution when it comes to THEIR works, how they get custom-made laws like the DMCA passed just to protect their rights… well, let’s just say that if the big AI models weren’t from the corporate sector but had been created by nerds on github, the copyright police would already have broken down our doors to arrest us all for copyright infringement.

So please, please, pretty please, let them have a dose of their own medicine. Heck, let the courts classify LLMs as “software” and find just one instance of the training data containing GPL3 content. Whoopsie, all your code belongs to us.

Re:And just like that . . .

By serafean • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Copyleft has always been about twisting/hacking copyright laws in favour of the end users/people instead of corporations.

This is a case of playing by using the existing rules to win, even those rules that you campaign against.

Re:âoeUse of the work for any purpose without

By Pinky’s Brain • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That’s not the real question, that’s a silly distraction. There are a ton of literal copies made long before the LLM outputs anything to users.

If training is fair use, the final output is too. Bartz v. Anthropic ruled it fair use, which I think was insane … but what judge will cripple a multi-trillion dollar industry over sanity? Need some pretty big balls.

Re:âoeUse of the work for any purpose without

By DarkOx • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

One thing to consider is when you quote/sample/cite facts from some other work, it static. You might have read the entire thing, but your paper will only ever have those two quotes, in it.

The model it self continues to be used generate outputs over and over again, and may eventually write out quite a lot of the original work.

but but but.. the model does not contain the originals works.. Well that is true and it isn’t. Yes it might be just a bunch of tokens and weights, but PCM is just a bunch integer representations of amplitude values for a wave form at intervals, not the original wave form, nor can it produce the original analog wave as pickup by say a mic exactly; yet nobody would argue that if I feed my phono outputs to my PC sound card and produced a wav that it is not or less infringing then if I copied a cd directly.

Just because you crank your mp3 compression down to 32kbps, and it sounds like crap does not magicly make your CD rip non-infringing either, even though it is very loss-y.

A real question is how loss-y is so loss-y the original is no longer represented, because I think you could argue a lot of these ML models are effectively really really loss-y encodings of the the entire library they are trained on.

Anyway fingers crossed the FSF wins this one. I can’t think of few developments that would be more ‘exciting’ then for the courts to rule models fundementally infringe on their training content and can’t be commercialized unless they are trained entirely on public domain and gratis licensed content, or on content entirely owned or appropriately licensed by the developer. Essentially ending frontier models would sell a ton of pop-corn!

GNU Virility Thought Experiment

By thesandbender • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
I’ll preface this by saying I don’t think LLM creators should be able to use content without permission/license. This is just an interesting discussion.

LLMs generally do not reproduce text. They can be made to do so with specifically crafted prompts but no current LLM is just going to regurgitate “Free as in Freedom” unless asked to do so. Instead it will use statistical matching to apply the text to probable matches, a very crude version of what we do. LLMs are starting to approach the way we meat sacks use books. We take in the information and then we apply it to problems. Where do we cross the line? Where do we say anything (or anyone) who is trained on (has read) this material is now required to do their work for free because they have the knowledge from that book as part of their training set?

It seems a little preposterous but that’s where this is headed logically. It’s shifting from “You can’t reproduce this book.” to closer to “You can’t use the knowledge in this book except under the conditions we dictate.” That’s dangerous.

The UK Will Invest Billions to Build a Nuclear Fusion Industry

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The UK’s science minister is announcing details of a five-year, £2.5 billion investment in nuclear fusion, reports the Times of London, “including building one of the world’s first prototype fusion power plants in Nottinghamshire and developing a UK sector projected to employ 10,000 people by 2030.”
Despite the potentially transformative impact of fusion, which in theory could provide limitless clean energy and create a £12 trillion global market, no country has managed to use this fledgling technology to generate useable electricity… [T]he UK is backing a spherical tokamak design… investing an initial £1.3 billion into a prototype fusion power plant called Step (Spherical Tokamak for Energy Production) on the site of a decommissioned coal-fired power station at West Burton in Nottinghamshire. Paul Methven, chief executive of the government-owned UK Industrial Fusion Solutions, which is delivering the Step project, said the aim is to get the reactor operating early in the 2040s. “It’s quite an aggressive programme,” he said. “We need to show that we can achieve genuine ‘wall socket’ energy — which has not been done before.”

On Monday, [science minister] Vallance will also announce £180 million for a facility in Culham, Oxfordshire, to manufacture tritium fuel and £50 million for training 2,000 scientists and engineers in fusion-related disciplines. The government is also buying a £45 million fusion-dedicated AI supercomputer called Sunrise to model plasma physics. Scientists at the UK Atomic Energy Authority last year developed an AI model that can rapidly simulate how the ultra-hot fuel in a fusion power plant will behave, cutting calculations that previously took days down to seconds…

Vallance will also announce new support and collaboration for the many fusion, robotics, engineering and AI start-ups working in Britain, to develop a strong supply chain for a new fusion sector. One of those companies, Tokamak Energy, which spun out from the UK Atomic Energy Authority in 2009, has already built a smaller reactor that has informed the Step design. In March 2022, it became the first private organisation in the world to surpass 100 million degrees Celsius in its reactor.

Would be way too expensive.

By InterGuru • Score: 3 Thread
From my background working in the Fusion Division of the US Department of Energy I’m skeptical. First I doubt it can be made to work. Second the engineering challenges are such that fusion power, like fission power, will never be economically competitive to gas and renewables.

ITER

By backslashdot • Score: 3 Thread

Why don’t they invest more in ITER instead? They should get ITER up faster. If they can show it works, the money will flow. I feel like they are spreading resources too thin and then nothing will work and fusion will be set back yet again decades.

Re:If only..

By Kernel Kurtz • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

If only God had put fusion reactor up in the sky available for use on average 12 hours a day any place on Earth.

Instead of squirrelling away all that past sunlight underground?

for £2.5 billion. What a rip-off.

By rossdee • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Thats only 3 days of War…

Questions about the investment

By Posthoc_Prior • Score: 3 Thread

Have a casual interest in modeling plasma (it’s a long story why). Because of this interest, have specific questions about the investment (that weren’t answered in the article):

* Why (only) a tokamak design? There are two primary types of fusion reactors, magnetic and inertial confinement. There are also hybrid approaches, such as what Helion Energy is using, a magneto-inertial fusion. So, my question, why choose only this approach? If you’re going to make a large investment, why not invest in the many types of approaches to make a fusion reactor?

* Is the investment going to include investing in private companies? And, if so, will that include investments in companies outside of the UK?

* The reason for the investment in a supercomputer is because of plasma tearing instability (I assume). That is, the plasma has to stay hot enough and for a long enough time to generate fusion. Both, generating the plasma and the process of fusion, is probabilistic. In other words, there are many instabilities that occur and that cause the plasma to cool (from the temperature needed for fusion). So, my question, what exactly would an investment in a supercomputer provide? Typically, investment in a supercomputer means that a problem can be linearly divided into smaller subproblems that are easier to compute. Would be interested to know what specific methods are going to be used to model the plasma.

* Finally — and this isn’t a question — modeling plasma is complex. It’s one of the most complex mathematical models that I’ve learned and attempted to make. If you’re interested, this introductory video is excellent. Although it’s from about 10 years ago (I think), the problems with understanding the physics of plasma in a fusion reactor are still relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?…