Alterslash

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Contents

  1. Robots Beat Human Records At Beijing Half-Marathon
  2. Videos Catch Amazon Delivery Drones Dropping Packages From 10 Feet in the Air
  3. Zoom Partners With Sam Altman’s Iris-Scanning Company To Offer Callers Verifications of Humanness
  4. Brave Browser Introduces ‘Origin’, a Pay-Once ‘Minimalist’ Browser
  5. Blue Origin Rocket Launches, Successfully Reuses Booster - But Loses Satellite
  6. Voyager 1 is Running Out of Power. NASA Just Switched Part of It Off
  7. Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Predicts Humankind Won’t Survive Another 50 Years
  8. Is the Iran War Driving a Surge of Interest in Electric Cars?
  9. Pancreatic Cancer MRNA Vaccine Shows Lasting Results In Early Trial
  10. Motorola Sues Social Media Platforms and Creators in India
  11. Nevada Police Can Now Track Cellphones Without a Warrant
  12. HP Will Discontinue ‘HP Anyware’ Remote Desktop, Trusted Zero Clients
  13. Disney Creates Its Own IMAX for ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ After Losing Screens to ‘Dune: Part 3’
  14. Can the ‘Attention Liberation Movement’ Foment a Rebellion Against Screens?
  15. Remembering Zip Drives - the Trendy Storage Technology of the 1990s

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Robots Beat Human Records At Beijing Half-Marathon

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch:
The winning runner at a Beijing half-marathon for humanoid robots finished the race today in 50 minutes and 26 seconds — significantly faster than the human world record of 57 minutes recently set by Jacob Kiplimo. […] [T]he winning time is a massive improvement over last year’s race, when the fastest robot finished in two hours and 40 minutes.

The Associated Press reports that this year’s winner was built by Chinese smartphone maker Honor. It seems the winning robot wasn’t actually the fastest, as a different Honor robot finished in 48 minutes and 19 seconds. But that one was remote controlled — the 50:26 robot was autonomous and won due to weighted scoring. About 40% of participating robots competed autonomously, while the remaining 60% were remote controlled, according to Beijing’s E-Town tech hub. Not all of them did as well as Honor’s robots, with one robot falling at the starting line and another hitting a barrier.

Videos Catch Amazon Delivery Drones Dropping Packages From 10 Feet in the Air

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There’s been a few complaints about Amazon’s drone delivery service. “The automated mailmen are dropping off packages from 10 feet in the air,” reports the New York Post, “rendering the contents of each box susceptible to crashing and smashing.”

One example? Tamara Hancock filmed a drone delivering a bottle of Torani flavoring syrup to her home in Arizona (as a test of how Amazon handled fragile items). It was delivered it in a plastic bottle — not glass — but the massive drone drops the drone from so high that the impact cracked the bottle’s cap. (In the video Hancock opens her delivery to find leaked flavoring syrup “everywhere.”)

The delivery was hard to film, Hancock says, because “If the drone sees me in the back yard, it will not drop, because it is worried about hurting humans or animals.” The Post notes Amazon’s “AI-charged fleet” of drones are “Outfitted with industry-leading 'sense and avoid’ technology, the aerodynamic machines are equipped to drop off eligible items, weighing a maximum of five pounds, at designated areas in 60 minutes or less.”
The high-tech, however, apparently does not ensure gentle landings. Collisions, including a recent crash-and-burn into a Texas building, as well as several mid-flight malfunctions in rainy weather, have abounded since the drones’ inaugural launch....

Tasha, a separate Amazon user, spotted the drone plunging a package near the paved driveway of a neighbor’s yard. Unfortunately, its propellers caused other, previously delivered parcels to blow away, sending one into the street… In a statement to The Post, Amazon said it apologized for one of the “rare instances when products don’t arrive as expected.”
Amazon’s drone fleet has been running since late 2024, the Post adds, and are now offering “ultra-fast” shipping in U.S. states including Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Kansas and Texas.

The machines do seem massive. I’m surprised neighbors aren’t complaining about the noise

So…

By nospam007 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

…just like a HUMAN delivery guy?

Sweet! Progress!

Oh no her syrup was broken

By DrXym • Score: 3 Thread
Glad we’re focusing on the real issue here - that somebody can order a bottle of syrup from a giant drone and fuck everyone else who might be disrupted by the noise, or worse harmed being under a drone (or package) which falls out of the sky.

Loud? It fits right in.

By Smonster • Score: 5, Informative Thread
While people like to think the sound of the drones would ruin otherwise tranquil settings, I have to say at least here in my neighborhood it would fit right in. My neighbors and I all may have roughly half acre lots, not be on busy streets, and are surrounded by noise dampening giant trees on rolling hills. But between the weekly leaf blowers and lawn mowers; plus the: home projects, delivery drivers, and the five private trash companies that all pick up trash and recycling bins all on different days which service the neighborhood it is hardly consistently quiet. Add in the church bells and occasional sirens wafting in over the hills as well all, an intermittent buzz of a drone would fit right in.

I’m not surprised at all these neighbors don’t notice.

Re:So…

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Well, considering Amazon just dropped a package in a completely different orbit, 3m is actually bullseye.

Zipline

By Tx • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Do Zipline have a patent on their system or something? Otherwise I don’t see why everybody doesn’t just copy that. Keeping the drone quite high up and then winching the package to the ground avoids several of the issues seen in these videos - the drone stays too high up to blow stuff such as other packages around, also reducing the noise experienced at ground level, and winching the package down until the line goes slack ensures a soft landing. It seems like a totally superior way to do it.

Zoom Partners With Sam Altman’s Iris-Scanning Company To Offer Callers Verifications of Humanness

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Zoom “has partnered with World, Sam Altman’s iris-scanning identity company (previously known as Worldcoin), " reports Digital Trends, “to add real-time human verification inside meetings.” Zoom is now inviting organizations to join the beta version of the rollout, which Digital Trends says “lets hosts confirm that every face on the call belongs to a real person, not an AI-generated imposter. "
For those wondering how World’s Deep Face technology works, it includes a three-step process. It cross-references a signed image from a user’s original Orb registration, a live face scan from the device, and the frame of the video that’s visible to the other participants in the meeting. Only when the three samples match does a “Verified Human” badge appear next to the user’s name…

Hosts can also make Deep Face verification mandatory for joining meetings, preventing unverified participants from joining entirely. Mid-call, on-the-spot checks are also possible…

Zuck and Sam won’t be detectable as humans tho

By sinkskinkshrieks • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Maybe they’ll need a separate algorithm for parasocial, narcissistic, awkward billionaires.

Brave Browser Introduces ‘Origin’, a Pay-Once ‘Minimalist’ Browser

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The Brave browser “has introduced Brave Origin, a stripped-down version of its browser that removes built-in monetization features like Rewards and other extras tied to its business model,” writes Slashdot reader BrianFagioli"
The stripped-down browser is available either as a separate browser download or as an upgrade to the existing Brave install, unlocked through a one-time purchase that can be activated across multiple devices. The idea is simple on paper: pay once, and you get a cleaner, more minimal browsing experience without the add-ons that fund Brave’s ecosystem. What makes the move unusual is the pricing model itself. While paying to support a browser is not controversial, charging users specifically to remove features raises questions about whether those additions are seen as value or clutter.

The situation gets even stranger on Linux, where Brave Origin is reportedly available at no cost, creating an uneven experience across platforms and leaving some users wondering why they are being asked to pay for something others get for free.

Re:What?

By sizzlinkitty • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Netscape wasn’t free

Re:What?

By AuMatar • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Back in the day lots of people did. Because there was no built in browser to use before IE came out. And pirating it would require getting a cd from someone else, and cd burners weren’t a thing yet. Your options were use AOL with whatever they had built in on their cds, or use Netscape which you’d need to buy.

Re:What?

By pjt33 • Score: 4, Informative Thread

NCSA Mosaic predated Netscape Navigator and was free for non-commercial use.

Re:What?

By hcs_$reboot • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Note that it is free for Linux users. Seems fair to have users pay for a superior browser since they pay for an inferior OS.

Re:What?

By sinkskinkshrieks • Score: 4, Funny Thread
DoN’t CoPy ThAt FlOpPy!

Blue Origin Rocket Launches, Successfully Reuses Booster - But Loses Satellite

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SpaceNews reports:
Blue Origin’s New Glenn suffered a malfunction of its second stage on the rocket’s third flight April 19, stranding its payload in an unrecoverable “off-nominal” orbit and dealing the company a setback as it seeks to increase its flight rate… AST SpaceMobile had planned to launch 45 to 60 satellites this year for its D2D constellation, but BlueBird 7 is the first to launch since BlueBird 6 launched on an Indian LVM3 rocket in December.
AST SpaceMobile still expects to have 45 satellites in orbit by the end of the year, the article notes. (In an earnings call in March, AST SpaceMobile’s CEO had promised they’d soon start “stacking” satellites, “batched in groups of either three, four, six or eight in a single launch.”) He’d added that “To support our launch cadence during 2026, we expect the New Glenn booster to be reused every 30 days or less…”

There’s some good news there, SpaceNews points out, since today saw the first successful reflight of a New Glenn first stage rocket:
The booster, called “Never Tell Me The Odds” by Blue Origin, touched down on the company’s landing platform, Jacklyn, in the Atlantic Ocean nearly nine and a half minutes after liftoff. The booster launched NASA’s ESCAPADE Mars mission on the NG-2 flight in November. However, the booster reuse on NG-3 was only partial since the stage’s biggest component, its BE-4 engines, was new. “With our first refurbished booster we elected to replace all seven engines and test out a few upgrades including a thermal protection system on one of the engine nozzles,” Dave Limp, chief executive of Blue Origin, said in an April 13 social media post. “We plan to use the engines we flew for NG-2 on future flights.”
The satellite will now be “de-orbited”, AST SpaceMobile said in a statement. (They added that “The cost of the satellite is expected to be recovered under the company’s insurance policy.”)

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader schwit1 for sharing the news.

Re:Sucks for the customer

By AlanObject • Score: 4, Informative Thread

SpaceX blew up a lot of stuff before Falcon became reliable.

To their credit, it has become the most reliable launch platform ever implemented.

How could they F this up

By backslashdot • Score: 3, Insightful Thread

The whole BS Blue Origin has been peddling is that they’re taking longer to do things because they do more thorough checks than SpaceX.

Voyager 1 is Running Out of Power. NASA Just Switched Part of It Off

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After 49 years of space travel, Voyager 1 “is running out of power,” reports NPR:
The spacecraft runs on a radioisotope thermoelectric generator — a device that converts heat from decaying plutonium into electricity. It carries no solar panels, no rechargeable batteries. Just the slow, steady release of nuclear warmth, which diminishes by about 4 watts each year. After nearly five decades, that decline has become critical.

During a routine maneuver in late February, Voyager 1’s power levels fell unexpectedly, bringing the probe dangerously close to triggering an automatic fault-protection shutdown — a self-preservation response that would have forced engineers into a lengthy and risky recovery process. The team needed to act first. On April 17, mission engineers sent a sequence of commands to deactivate the Low-energy Charged Particles experiment, known as the LECP, which is one of Voyager 1’s remaining science instruments. The LECP has measured ions, electrons, and cosmic rays originating from both our solar system and the galaxy beyond it, helping scientists map the structure of interstellar space in a way no other instrument could…

Voyager 1 now carries two operational science instruments: one that listens for plasma waves, and one that measures magnetic fields. Engineers believe the latest shutdown could buy the mission roughly another year of breathing room. The team is also developing a more sweeping power conservation plan they informally call “the Big Bang” — a coordinated swap of several powered components all at once, trading older systems for lower-power alternatives. If testing on Voyager 2, planned for May and June 2026, goes well, the same procedure will be attempted on Voyager 1 no sooner than July. If it works, there is even a slim chance the LECP could once more continue to work.

The engineers say they hope to keep at least one instrument operating on each spacecraft into the 2030s. It would leave both still reporting from places no machine has ever gone before.111
Voyager 1 is now 15 billion miles from Earth, the article points out. (Radio signals take 23 hours to arrive…)

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader fahrbot-bot for sharing the article.

Shout out

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Thanks to all the engineers and scientists who keep this probe functioning. Keep up the amazing work.

Built to Last

By HoleShot • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It is amazing Voyager has run this long. This isn’t that classic chevy sitting in your garage. This far away solar panels probably would not be worth much.
If anything maybe a bit more plutonium would be helpful. I am sure this mission was never figured it would last this long.

Breathtaking!

By jenningsthecat • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Fifty years in space and not only is it not dead, it’s still sending back useful data decades after its expected demise. Great engineering, teamwork, and a commitment that’s still alive five decades after launch. That’s both touching and inspirational.

Given that our species can make Voyager happen - along with all the other exploring, discovering, and building we’ve done since the advent of civilization - I find it truly sad that we may be on the verge of ending it all forever.

I get that violent aggression and subjugation were evolutionarily selected as survival traits. But it’s both sad and ironic that those traits may also spell the end of mankind. Wouldn’t it be sad if some of the things we’ve launched into the great unknown are still sending data back to us when there’s nobody left alive to receive it?

Re:Should have put an RCA 1802 in it

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

The RCA 1802 became available in 1976, and Voyager 1 launched in 1977. They spent years designing, programming, building, testing, and finally launching in September of 1977.

When the Voyager crafts were designed, the sensors designed, the interfaces created, the software written, the memory and radio interface created, this was in the early 70s. The 1802 was at least 6 years in the future of when all the critical design choices were made. It would be used for later space probes but was not available for the Voyager series.

Re:Built to Last

By hackertourist • Score: 4, Informative Thread

A repeater won’t work, and is not the best way to solve the problem.

1. For the price of a repeater spacecraft, we can build several 70-meter antennas on Earth which are far more sensitive than any antenna we can put on a spacecraft.

2. The Voyagers are at 120 and 150 AU. For a repeater to be useful, it has to be somewhere in the middle between us and the Voyagers, so they would have to go to 60 AU. That takes 25 years.

3. The transmitters on Voyager have fixed power levels. They can be switched between 2 settings, and are using the lower power level (12 W) for most transmissions already. There’s no way to reduce transmitter power below that.

Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Predicts Humankind Won’t Survive Another 50 Years

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Live Science spoke with physicist David Gross, who today received the $3 million “Special Breakthrough Prize in Fundamental Physics”. He was part of a trio that won the 2004 physics Nobel prize for research that helped complete the Standard Model of particle physics. But when asked if physics will reach a unified theory of the fundamental forces of nature within 50 years, Gross has a surprising answer. “Currently, I spend part of my time trying to tell people… that the chances of you living 50 [more] years are very small.”

Cold War estimates for a 1% chance of nuclear war each year seem low, Gross says. “The chances are more likely 2%. So that’s a 1-in-50 chance every year.”
David Gross: The expected lifetime, in the case of 2% [per year], is about 35 years. [The expected lifetime is the average time it would take to have had a nuclear war by then. It is calculated using similar equations as those used to determine the “half-life” of a radioactive material.]

Live Science: So what do you suggest as remedies to lower that risk?

Gross: We had something called the Nobel Laureate Assembly for reducing the risk of nuclear war in Chicago last year. There are steps, which are easy to take — for nations, I mean. For example, talk to each other. In the last 10 years, there are no treaties anymore. We’re entering an incredible arms race.

We have three super nuclear powers. People are talking about using nuclear weapons; there’s a major war going on in the middle of Europe; we’re bombing Iran; India and Pakistan almost went to war. OK, so that’s increased the chance [of nuclear war]. I would really like to have a solid estimate — it might be more, and I think I’m being conservative — but a 2% estimate [of nuclear war] in today’s crazy world.

Live Science: Do you think we’ll ever get to a place where we get rid of nuclear weapons?

Gross: We’re not recommending that. That’s idealistic, but yes, I hope so. Because if you don’t, there’s always some risk an AI 100 years from now [could launch nuclear weapons], but chances of [humanity] living, with this estimate, 100 years, is very small, and living 200 years is infinitesimal. So [the answer to] Fermi’s question of “Where are the civilizations, all the intelligent organisms around the galaxy, and why don’t they talk to us?” is that they’ve killed themselves…

There are now nine nuclear powers. Even three is infinitely more complicated than two. The agreements, the norms between countries, are all falling apart. Weapons are getting crazier. Automation, and perhaps even AI, will be in control of those instruments pretty soon… It’s going to be very hard to resist making AI make decisions because it acts so fast.
He points out that with the threat of climate change, “people have done something,” even though “It’s a much harder argument to make than about nuclear weapons.

“We made them; we can stop them.”

Thanks to hwstar (Slashdot reader #35,834) for sharing the article.

Re:Auto Mechanic doesn’t like latest symphony

By hwstar • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That might be even scarier given our current leadership in 2 of the 3 large nuclear powers.

Re:Auto Mechanic doesn’t like latest symphony

By Brain-Fu • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Well, there is a difference between understanding how nuclear weapons work, and understanding the global political environment (not to mention the elements of human psychology that help shape it). Making predictions about whether or not there will be a nuclear war anytime soon would be better left to focus groups consisting of political scientists, psychologists, and sociologists.

I, for one, am not an expert in any of these fields, so I am nowhere near qualified to weigh in. That, of course, won’t inhibit me at all.

Genetically speaking, modern humans are no more enlightened than the warmongering war criminals that led the world during the dark ages. We are not intrinsically more moral or more concerned about others, etc. The only difference is the technological landscape we are in. Not just the presence of nuclear weapons, but also the communication technologies that have tied the entire world together and produced a much more aware populace. This creates new political pressures and new incentives to make different choices than our recent ancestors would have (but again, morality is not a factor. It’s still just a matter of incentives and consequences).

The concept of mutually-assured destruction is not very noble, but it is very real, and it is effective at staying the hands of the world’s nuclear powers (at least somewhat). And this is also nothing new, as it has always been true of humans that the most effective deterrent to violence is a credible threat of devastating retaliatory violence (insane people excepted, of course).

So, with that in mind, our best short term option is to ensure that world leaders are sane enough to understand this mutually-assured destruction risk. This isn’t a judgment about their morality or even their loyalty (as those things are too easy to lie about) but about their mental grasp of their situation. So long as they all know how that war would end all life on our planet, they probably won’t start it. This also means ensuring that any country that cannot produce leaders at this level of sanity must be proactively prevented from attaining nuclear weapons by intrusive actions on the part of the greater world powers.

Unfortunately, there isn’t any way to guarantee the sanity of the leaders of any country. Democracy sure doesn’t do it (it’s just a popularity contest and insane people can still win great popularity among the voting masses), and dictatorship sure doesn’t do it either.

I was going to add a bit about countries forming alliances with each other and such, but that feels secondary to the main point about sane leadership, which we have no way to ensure.

So, in short, we are doomed.

Re:Miscalibrated

By fleeped • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

Re:Sounds subjective

By Waffle Iron • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Mutually Assured Destruction and even a small arsenal like Israel is said to have makes nuclear war pointless.

If what you say is true, then why is everyone freaking out over the prospect of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons?

Sounds about right

By SoftwareArtist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I hope he’s wrong, but I think he’s likely to turn out right. I’m not saying every last human will die, and I’m not saying 50 years is the right timeframe. But the odds of modern society surviving long term in anything like its current form are low.

Climate change is the ticking time bomb. Again and again we’ve proven unable to address it, and we’re still not addressing it today. I have to conclude we likely never will, or not until it’s too late. And that will destabilize everything. What do you think will happen when rising sea level drives 100 million people from their homes? When killer heat waves make parts of the Middle East uninhabitable? When the AMOC collapses and makes much of northern Europe uninhabitable? People will be desperate, and desperate people do stupid things, often involving killing each other. Throw nuclear weapons into the ring and I’m not optimistic.

It doesn’t have to be like that. We just need to stop burning fossil fuels. We already have the technology. We just need to choose to do it. And nothing is stopping us from eliminating nuclear weapons except us. We are the problem. We know what we need to do, but we seem incapable of doing it.

Is the Iran War Driving a Surge of Interest in Electric Cars?

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In October and through November, America’s EV sales reached their lowest point since 2022 after government subsidies expired, remembers Time. “But first-quarter data for 2026 shows that used EV sales were 12% higher than the same time last year and 17% higher than the previous quarter.

“One factor likely helping push buyers toward these cars is high gas prices, which recently topped $4.00 a gallon for the first time in four years,” they write — but it’s not just in the U.S. Instead, they argue the conflict “is driving a global surge of interest in electric vehicles…”
In the U.K., electric car sales reached a record high, with 86,120 vehicles sold in March… The French online used-car retailer Aramisauto reported its share of EV sales nearly doubled from February 16 to March 9, rising to 12.7% from 6.5%, while sales of fueled models dropped to 28% of sales from 34%, and sales of diesel models dropped to 10% from 14%. Germany’s largest online car market, mobile.de, told Reuters that the share of EV searches on its website has tripled since the start of March — from 12% to 36%, with car dealers receiving 66% more enquiries for used EVs than in February.

South Korea reported that registrations for electric vehicles more than doubled in March compared to the prior year, due in part to rising fuel prices and government subsidies… In New Zealand, more than 1,000 EVs were registered in the week that ended on March 22, close to double the week before, making it the country’s biggest week for electric vehicle registrations since the end of 2023, according to the country’s Transport Minister, Chris Bishop.
In America, Bloomberg also reports 605 high-speed EV charging stations switched on in just the first three months of 2025, “a 34% increase over the year-earlier period,” according to their analysis of federal data. A data platform focused on EV infrastructure tells Bloomberg that speedier and more reliable chargers are convincing more drivers to go electric and use public plugs.

Re:Same as it ever was

By XopherMV • Score: 5, Informative Thread
I’ve driven EVs since 2016. I’ve only plugged my car into the wall with no special charger. I plug in when I get home. My car completely charges overnight. When I leave in the morning, it’s completely charged. My office is only about 10 miles away. So, I never use a full charge during the day driving to work.

It’s clear you’ve never owned an EV and simply want to demonize a technology it’s obvious you know little about.

Re:Same as it ever was

By PsychoSlashDot • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Short sighted idiots and people trying to justify “I want a new car” that they clearly can’t afford will “justify” it with fuel savings or lower operating costs. It almost never works out. Nothing to see here. The same thing happens literally every time fuel costs spike.

There’s nothing in the summary that supports that holier-than-thou take.

That enquiries and sales of EVs have increased does not imply or require that people are buying cars when they weren’t otherwise going to, and doesn’t imply or require that they cannot afford those cars.

You are just painting these buyers as “short-sighted idiots” to make yourself feel superior but there’s nothing presented to support that. What I’m saying is that there were already X people looking to buy new cars. There’s nothing - nothing - here that says overall sales are greater than X, only that the number EV sales, searches, and enquiries are up.

Re:Same as it ever was

By frdmfghtr • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It’s clear you’ve never owned an EV and simply want to demonize a technology it’s obvious you know little about.

The same people usually don’t want to learn either. I know of people for whom an EV would be a perfect fit; local driving only, low annual miles (I’m talking maybe 5k/year)…but claim that “there are too many unknowns” with EVs. The only “unknowns” are the ones you don’t want to learn about.

Re:Same as it ever was

By Smidge204 • Score: 5, Informative Thread

> EV’s for long trips aren’t great. I have a Chevy Bolt 2023 EUV. Cross-state trips take 50% longer than a gas car.

I know it’s a cop-out to blame your choice of vehicle for your experience, but please understand that the 2023 Bolt EUV has a max DCFC power of 55kw. That’s about a third what the majority of vehicles are capable of (150kw peak) and about 30% less than what my 2020 Kona EV can pull (75kw) - another vehicle that was comparatively under powered when it was new.

Your 2023 Bolt EUV is literally the second worst charge-performing EV you can find in the US, with the #1 spot being the 2024 Fiat 500e.

I hope you’re not too disillusioned with EVs because of it; the EUV is a perfectly fine vehicle for daily use especially for the price. Just know that your experience is not typical.
=Smidge=

Re:Same as it ever was

By superdave80 • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Possibly: the battery has like a hundred miles left in its life, the EV motors are on their last legs, the computer glitches now and then, there’s a short in the wiring that shuts the whole car down sometimes, any of those things.

It’s hilarious the completely wrong things that the anti-EV crowd comes up with. EV motor on it’s last leg? Seriously? And why would the EV computer glitch and have wiring issues, but not the ICE computer and wiring? (Yes, ICE vehicles have computers, and GASP wires).

Pancreatic Cancer MRNA Vaccine Shows Lasting Results In Early Trial

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NBC News reports on a 16-person clinical trial of "personalized messenger RNA vaccines" which use the immune system to fight cancer cells. “The goal is not to eliminate existing tumors, but instead to stamp out lingering, undetected cancer cells, and later any new cells that form before they can cause a recurrence.”
Patients still have surgery to remove tumors. After that, the mRNA vaccines are personalized for each individual using genetic material taken from their unique tumor cells. In the clinical trial, after getting the vaccine, the patients also received chemotherapy, which is standard post-op treatment for operable pancreatic cancer… [The article notes that less than 13% of people diagnosed with pancreatic cancer live for more than five years, making it “one of the deadliest cancers.”]

[E]xperts have long believed that people with pancreatic cancer could not generate an immune response against tumors. But after nine doses of the personalized vaccine, [clinical trial participant Donna] Gustafson is one of eight people in the 16-person Phase 1 trial who did just that, producing an army of immune cells called T cells that seek out and destroy tumor cells… [Dr. Vinod Balachandran, a vaccine center director who is leading the trial, said] it was unclear whether the immune response would last and lead to the patients living longer… New data collected during the trial’s six-year follow-up period shows that it may. Those findings will be presented Monday at the American Association for Cancer Research’s annual meeting in San Diego. Six years after treatment, Gustafson and six others who responded to the treatment are still alive…

More research is still needed. Genentech and BioNTech, the two drugmakers behind the vaccine, have already launched a larger Phase 2 clinical trial… Another team is working on an off-the-shelf vaccine that targets a protein called KRAS that is present in as many as 90% of pancreatic cancers. In a small, early trial, about 85% of the participants mounted an immune response to the protein.

So… a mRNA cancer treatment, under RFK, Jr?

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Given how much HHS Secretary RFK, Jr. is against mRNA vaccines and is cancelling support and funding for them — Google: RFK mrna cancels — I wonder how he’ll feel about the FDA considering and approving this?

KRAS off the shelf

By stabiesoft • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
That one sounds more promising. A “custom” mRNA vaccine sounds very expensive. Very. Like billionaire class drug.

That’s not how you stop elections

By rsilvergun • Score: 4, Informative Thread
You don’t just order elections to stop. You use voter suppression tactics to prevent them from going on. If you already know the outcome because you picked who can vote and who can’t is it really an election anymore?

The Republican party uses a handful of county level voter suppression tactics. They have a network of volunteers hoping to get ahead in the party that spend hours illegally challenging signatures and voter registrations. Meanwhile they get some of their people in charge of the county positions because nobody pays much attention to those and do stuff like send broken voting machines to Blue districts or accidentally close polling locations early. During the 2024 election we had 7 hour wait times to vote in swing States.

So they don’t do anything flashy or showy that you would notice on a national level. What they do is very pedestrian and boring and doesn’t make good news so nobody pays attention to it.

Motorola Sues Social Media Platforms and Creators in India

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“Motorola has filed a lawsuit in India against social media platforms and content creators,” reports TechCrunch, “over posts it alleges are defamatory…”
The lawsuit, filed in a Bengaluru court and obtained by TechCrunch, names platforms such as X, YouTube, and Instagram along with dozens of content creators, and seeks takedown of the content as well as broader restraint on what it describes as false or defamatory material related to the company’s devices. In its over 60-page filing, Motorola has sought a permanent injunction restraining the defendants from publishing or sharing what it describes as false or defamatory content about its products, including reviews, videos, comments, and boycott campaigns.

The complaint cites hundreds of posts across platforms, including videos alleging device issues and phones catching fire. But it is also targeting unfavorable product reviews and user commentary that the company alleges are false or defamatory. In a statement after publication, a Motorola spokesperson said it had initiated legal action “in the interest of public safety” against what it described as demonstrably false claims that its devices had exploded or caught fire.
One online creator told TechCrunch “they expect more such legal action in the future, as evolving rules around online content increase liability for creators and platforms — a trend reflected in recently proposed changes to India’s IT rules aimed at tightening oversight of online content.”

A Motorola spokesperson “said the company did not seek to suppress legitimate reviews or criticism and was reviewing the scope of the proceedings, adding that it apologized to creators affected inadvertently.”

The beginning of the end

By ZombieCatInABox • Score: 3 Thread

When your company is already on shaky grounds, you can always count on your legal team to deliver the coup de grâce.

probably backlash

By FudRucker • Score: 3, Informative Thread
Motorola is going to sell a smartphone with GrapheneOS that will take google’s digital umbilical cord out of your phone so the google fanboys in India organized a shitposting campaign.
I will buy one as ASAP when they are released

proof?

By freeze128 • Score: 3 Thread
How does Motorola know that the claims of exploding phones are false? I personally knew someone in the U.S. with a Motorola phone that inexplicably caught fire.Since there are a Billion possible customers in that market, it’s possible that the numbers of faulty phones could be much higher.

Re:Motorola should thank the Streisand effect

By amp001 • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Some brief history (from memory, not AI, so a few facts may be wrong here and there):

Motorola was founded in 1928 as Galvin Manufacturing Co. After creating the first commercial car radio in 1930 (the “Motor Victrola”, or “Motorola”) they renamed the company. It has a long history of creating new businesses and then either spinning them off or selling them outright to other companies (usually right before they become low margin / commodity). Televisions, pagers, semiconductors, etc.

The handset (and cable modem, set-top box, and cable infrastructure) business was spun off in 2011. The only unusual thing about that transaction was that due to the significant consumer brand recognition for handsets at the time, the new company took the “Motorola” name, while the old company was renamed again to Motorola Solutions (but can still put the “Motorola” name on non-consumer products like police radios, etc.). Yes, this is confusing.

Then, Google bought that company, sold the cable business to Arris, stripped out the core handset engineering teams (which now design Pixel phones for Google), and sold the rest to Lenovo for just under $3B.

Motorola Solutions currently has a market cap around four times larger than all of Lenovo, not just the part of Lenovo descended from the Motorola handset division they eventually bought from Google. They still make police radios, but also body worn cameras, command center solutions (911 call-taking, dispatch, etc.) and a whole bunch of fixed surveillance cameras under various brands.

Re:The beginning of the end

By Brymouse • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Motorola has a long, long history of suing people and businesses over patents and using the government to harass and intimidate researchers. They were the final defendant to lose to Armstrong’s widow in 1967 after the supreme court refused to hear their appeal. This was 13 years after he killed himself over this litigation. Till the end, they maintained they invented FM.

I’m currently fighting several parallel SLAPP suits from a Motorola dealer for and exposing his resume as being likely fabrications.

Nevada Police Can Now Track Cellphones Without a Warrant

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“Nevada quietly signed an agreement earlier this year with a company that collects location data from cellphones, allowing police to track a device virtually in real time,” reports the Associated Press. “All without a warrant.”
The software from Fog Data Science, adopted this January in Nevada through a Department of Public Safety contract, pulls information from smartphone apps in order to let state investigators identify the location of mobile devices. The state is allowed more than 250 queries a month using the tool, which allows officers to track a device’s location over long stretches of time and enables them to see what Fog calls “patterns of life,” according to company documents from 2022. It can help them deduce where and when people work and live, with whom they associate and what places they visit, according to privacy experts… Traditionally, police must obtain a warrant from a judge to access cellphone location information — a process that can take days or weeks. And while cellphone users may be aware that they are sharing their location through apps such as Google Maps, critics say few are aware that such information can make its way to police…

Other agencies in Nevada have been known to use technology similar to Fog. In 2013, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department acquired something known as a cell-site simulator that mimics cellphone towers and can sweep up signals from entire areas to track individuals, with some models capable of intercepting texts and calls. Police have not released detailed information about the technology since then.
“Police in other states have said the technology (and its low price tag) has helped expand investigatory capacity,” the article adds.

But it also points out that Fog Data Science has a web page letting individuals opt out of all their data sets.

Warrant?

By PPH • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Traditionally, police must obtain a warrant

That’s not exactly what the linked page says. That appears to be about searching the content of your phone. Tracking (i.e.your location) is a separate issue.

Cell site emulators/IMSI catchers/Stingrays are also popular, particularly with the feds. Our state has some pretty strict privacy laws. But they mean nothing when it’s the FBI/DoJ setting the sites up. Same for surveillance camera systems. Cities around me are pretty active about giving Flock and others the boot. But the feds operate their own systems, about which local and state governments have no say. And they are pretty well hidden compared to the Flock cameras (which I think are actually going for brand recognition with their obvious installations).

Set Android advertising ID to all zeros

By schwit1 • Score: 5, Informative Thread

This should foil fogs data?

On stock systems, the UUID you are seeing is almost certainly the **Advertising ID** (Android) or **IDFA** (iPhone). Here is how to manage them:

1. **To Reset the ID:** Go to **Settings > Privacy > Ads** (or **Settings > Google > Ads**). Tap **Reset advertising ID**. This generates a completely new random UUID.
2. **To Delete the ID:** In the same menu, tap **Delete advertising ID**.
        * *Result:* Instead of a random string, apps will see a string of zeros (`00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000`). This is effectively “randomizing” it by making it useless for tracking.
3. **Automatic Randomization:** Stock Android does **not** have a native setting to rotate this ID automatically (e.g., daily). Only privacy-focused ROMs like CalyxOS or GrapheneOS offer that “shuffle” behavior.

Re:Increasingly, we’re down to one option

By saloomy • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
See, why not use a botnet to submit every possible 32 bit device ID, effectively shutting down these fuckers?

You could stop voting for right wing politicians

By rsilvergun • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
That seems to be the thing nobody is considering here. All of this crap comes from the right wing because this is about control and that’s what the right wing is always about. If you go all the way back to when the right wing got its start it’s literally the side the monarchists were sitting in at the French assembly.

The fundamental concept that underpins the right wing philosophy is that there is a natural order and hierarchy that we all fit into and that we should obey the people above us and commands the people below us.

With that kind of belief system you’re going to get surveillance because you aren’t going to be able to maintain control otherwise.

Re:Increasingly, we’re down to one option

By joe_frisch • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Trying to fight tracking and privacy violations one by one is a losing battle - there will be an ever increasing number of ways to surveil people. This can only be fixed by making the collection of this type of data from ANY source illegal - and I doubt there is the political will to do that.

The data is too valuable to corporations and the government.

HP Will Discontinue ‘HP Anyware’ Remote Desktop, Trusted Zero Clients

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kriston (Slashdot reader #7,886) writes:
HP Anyware, the new name of the Teradici PCoIP remote desktop solution that was acquired by HP in 2021, is being discontinued.
“Maintenance and support for customers and partners with multi-year terms will continue until 31 October, 2029,” a href=“https://anyware.hp.com/hp-anyware-end-of-life”>according to HP’s announcement.

But HP is also announcing the planned End of Life for Anyware Trust Center and Trusted Zero Clients, with support now limited to setup and troubleshooting, no new updates or patches, and support ending in a little over six months on October 31, 2026. While for Desktop Access customers — Tera2 Zero Clients and PCoIP Management Console — “the previously announced EOL date remains December 31, 2029,” sales have already ended for other customers. HP Anyware renewals are available for purchase through October 31 of 2027, but with a maximum one year term, with support ending October 31, 2028.

HP says the decision “enables us to focus our resources on product categories where we can deliver the greatest customer value and drive long-term innovation.”

Acquire then discontinue

By 0xG • Score: 3 Thread

What a winning strategy. /s
HP is looking more and more like CA.

Monkey See, Monkey Buy Other Monkey’s Copy

By Excelcia • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Monkey See, Monkey Buy Other Monkey’s Copy is not and never has been a winning strategy.

They would have got more value out of a version of VNC.

And HP’s marketspeak that it “enables us to focus our resources on product categories where we can deliver the greatest customer value and drive long-term innovation” - has never, ever fooled anyone.

If you are the one approving a press release, here’s simple advice. If it, anywhere, contains the words “drive”, “deliver”, “value” and/or “innovation”, then immediately send it back. And if it contains more than one, fire the person who brought it to you - that person will never be able to innovate, drive or deliver actual value.

Stop letting companies buy other companies

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 3 Thread

Just stop letting them do it. It’s not a right, we can just say no.

Disney Creates Its Own IMAX for ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ After Losing Screens to ‘Dune: Part 3’

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Ahead of December’s release of Avengers: Doomsday, Disney has unveiled “Infinity Vision,” reports Kotaku, which they describe as “a new theater-going experience that will be certain to transform your pedestrian $15 night out into an exotic $43 one.” (Though those prices appear to be estimates…)

Disney’s announcement calls it “a new certification for premium large format (PLF) theaters,” helping ticket-buyers find “a huge screen with the sharpest, clearest color and sound,” including laser projection “for superior brightness and clarity ") and “premium audio formats for fully immersive sound”.
Light on specifics, Disney says they will be certifying premium large format theaters for the Infinity Vision experience, highlighting laser projection and immersive audio quality. The new program will begin in the summer for a theater run of 2019’s Avengers: Endgame ahead of Doomsday‘s holiday release.

Now you might be thinking: Giant screen? Booming audio? That sounds an awful lot like IMAX. The most consumer-recognized premium movie-going screen is the coveted throne for big blockbuster events, from Avatar to One Battle After Another. Unfortunately for Doomsday, IMAX screens are already booked for the holiday season by Dune: Part Three, the anticipated return to Arrakis, where Timothée Chalamet’s Muad’Dib will begin to go worm-mode. Locked out of the popular choice for doubling your ticket price, Disney appears to have made up a new one…

Disney says they aim to certify 75 theaters in the United States and 300 internationally for the Infinity Vision program.

This is exactly why

By wakeboarder • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I don’t go to the theaters, these movie execs are trying to pick my pocket when they should be trying to entertain me. They put out commercialized uncreative garbage. Most Disney movies contain a large percentage of content that is essentially a in movie advertisement. I could go on and on, I’m not paying 40$ for a movie

Alternate news

By Unpopular Opinions • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Ahead of December’s release of Avengers: Doomsday, Unpopular Opinions has unveiled “Infinity Wisdom,” reports himself, which they describe as “a new theater skipping experience that will be certain to transform corporate greed night out into a realistic better investment for your future.” (Though those claims appear to be estimates…)

Start with Disney+ for Brightness and Clarity

By Somervillain • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Given the horrible HDR on Disney+, hearing Disney talk about brightness and clarity is like hearing Elon Musk lament about drug abuse. Disney+ is largely unwatchable, your screen will be black…unless you turn the brightness all the way up and watch it on a giant TV in a pitch black room. I can’t see fucking shit on Disney+. They ruin the movies. At first I thought it was because I had an inexpensive mainstream TV. I tried disabling HDR, changing the brightness, backlight, all the common sense stuff. Now my TV is grey, but I can’t tell what the fuck is going on for any dimly lit indoors scene (like anything in a space ship). OK…so I buy an expensive TV, not purely for Disney, but just because my kids and I watch movies and play more games together now…OK, for a top of the line $1200 Roku Pro series, it’s “slightly” better, but still…I can’t tell what the fuck is going on in any dark scene. Is that the hero or antagonist?…it takes me a second or 2 figure it out because I can’t see shit.

The crux of the complaint? Disney+ went OUT OF THEIR WAY with this overboard HDR shit on purpose. So Disney wants to “roll their own” theater format for picture?…eh, your history with these thing is pretty horrible, especially on Marvel and Star Wars series. HDR is a fucking curse and everyone I’ve talked to agrees…it definitely didn’t make it better. I know creators can build tension with that, but most of us just want to relax after a busy week and watch a movie. Don’t go out of your way to make strain my eyes and have to put EFFORT into watching your stupid popcorn flick.

This is to entice iMAX franchisees to jump ship

By williamyf • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

If you are a theater owner, you have to pay iMax periodicaly for naming rights, and other stuff. The equipment (that you also had to pay) is sunk cost already.

If Disney can Provide “A Name/Brand” 90% as strong as iMax at 60% of recurring costs, and convince theater owners that is really the case, be certain that many a theater owner will jump ship in a heartbeat.

Competition is good, and a Duopoly is better than a monopoly any day.

On a personal note, there are no iMaxs in my country (Venezuela), and I almost do not go to cinema, but still go from time to time (like once or twice per annum), either for the social aspect, or because there is a movie I REALLY like to see “the way it was meant to be seen”. So, I have no beef in this fight, just seeing it from a bussiness perspective.

Re:This is to entice iMAX franchisees to jump ship

By tlhIngan • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Large format projections beyond IMAX do exist, but the generally have very little hold. Most cinema formats have not held - many have been tested over the decades and most have done away.

Theatre owners will likely not invest in the equipment if there’s no promising market - they’ve been promised a lot in the past and been stuck with equipment they bought and no longer used.

True IMAX using 18/70 (18 perf 70 mm) are rare - there are only 30 theatres in the world who can play that (it’s a legacy format). Most lost the capability when IMAX moved to digital. The remaining 18/70 theatres will likely remain because there is interest in the format, and to recoup the investment. An 18/70 print costs around $100K and it’s something the theatres keep, which is a rarity. Even in the days of 35mm, most theatres would rent the film instead of purchase them so at the end of the run they’d return them. And in the digital age, well, they don’t own anything - the projectors have to get a license key every time they show a movie, and that key gets the theatre charged for the showing. They also have another key that unlocks the movie for a set time period.

Disney does have the marketing might to push their own IMAX system, but theatre owners will be watching - if it remains Disney only, they may only stick with IMAX as it’s basically booked all the time, while a Disney system will only be used for the few Disney films released

IMAX requirements are harsh - but it’s because they hold a standard. The screen must have a certain reflectivity to it (it’s changed every 5 years). The sound is calibrated and adjusted - the theatre actually cannot change the volume. If they do adjust the volume, IMAX can remote change it back and the bulb life and brightness is carefully monitored. But that’s also why they can charge a premium ticket price for it - you’re getting a presentation that’s designed to be the same and well presented and adjusted. I’ve been in way too many theatres where the sound is too loud and having too much bass I felt sick. The premium IMAX ones the bass gives you a nice kick when it needs to but is otherwise restrained. They take advantage of dynamic range.

Of course, I’m referring to real IMAX theatres, and not the moder prevalent “LieMAX” ones which are converted screens. Disney would have a far easier time competing with Liemax

Can the ‘Attention Liberation Movement’ Foment a Rebellion Against Screens?

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The Associated Press looks at the small-but-growing “rebellion” against attention-hogging devices, citing “a growing body of literature calling for people to move away from screens and pay attention to life.”
D. Graham Burnett is a historian of science at Princeton University and one of the authors of " Attensity! A Manifesto of the Attention Liberation Movement,” making him a pillar of the growing backlash against the corporate harvesting of human attention. Along with MS NOW host Chris Hayes’ bestselling " The Sirens’ Call: How Attention Became the World’s Most Endangered Resource,” his work is part of a growing body of literature calling for people to move away from screens and pay attention to life. Burnett says the “attention liberation movement” is about throwing off the yoke of time-sucking apps. People “need to rewild their attention. Their attention is the fullness of their relationship to the world”....

There are several dozen “attention activism” groups across the United States and Canada, and the movement has also cropped up in Spain, Italy, Croatia, France and England. Burnett said he expects it to spread further.
Some examples cited in the article:

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader destinyland for sharing the article.


Willpower and Discipline.

By TigerPlish • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I’m not the type to read the tripe the media in general produces or promotes.. but on my own, I recognized the cybershackle had been usurping my “me” time.

So now, I pretend the smartphone is just a phone, like in the old days: It stays at a fixed point in my house. If I’m in the cine watching anime brianrot, the phone’s in the other room. If i’m at my desk, the phone’s in the dining room.

I don’t need to check email every 2 minutes. Or look something up every few minutes. With the phone in the other room, I just focus on what’s in front of me.

If I’m on call, they’ll call, and only phone calls ring through to my watch, where I can pick it up from. That’s the only ‘forward’ from phone-to-watch. Texts, email, etc etc — none of that shit matters anymore, so none of it rings through to the watch. Only phone calls do.

Boobtube

By Ritz_Just_Ritz • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I found that kids will just sit there and mindlessly watch inane video shorts on youtube for hours. Youtube is blackholed on my home network. Thank you pihole.

“Screens” are not the problem

By gweihir • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

What you do when in front of a screen may be though.

Re:“Screens” are not the problem

By alvinrod • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Most people aren’t disciplined enough to stop themselves if they’re even aware of the problem in the first place. The screens are incredibly effective mechanism for delivering little dopamine hits that the human brain craves. Human attention to these mechanisms selects for the most suitable and developers constantly try to build a better dark pattern to keep the eyeballs on their app instead of someone else’s.

Alcohol has been a part of human society for thousands of years and it’s still a problem for us. Some people can use it responsibly and others can’t. I would imagine that’s due to evolution slowly filtering out the genes that couldn’t handle it in moderation. This is an entirely new drug that humans have far less experience with though. Television may share some similarities, but what smartphones have on offer is an entirely different beast.

The scary part is that it will probably get worse before it gets better.

It will happen organically

By GeekWithAKnife • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Once upon a time we were told watching TV all-day will make us dumb. That we must stop watching TV. We were told that playing videogames all day…etc

Arsoke point more and more people’s brains will stop getting the dopamine hit because watching lolcats has a ceiling. Same for YouTube shorts and such.


Wait until VR hits mainstream. You’d finally be able to advertise inside everyone’s virtual homes and colour their rain in pepsi. VI assistants will recommend Nike or Reebok. Noncompete brands will tag team; if you do X then get brand A and the other if you do Y.

Look to the past. Every fashion and craze came and eventually went. You think parents didn’t try to get their kids to stop listening to Rock n’ Roll? (Which as the meme goes leads to sex and blasphemy)

Stop trying to herd cats. Try to get the positives and avoid the negatives and the rest will take care of itself.

“But what about…” it’ll take care of itself not because of the great creator or but because people want things and they get bored. Attention will shift. Someone will make a new gizmo…and maybe that will be a better screen but heck without this screen I’m using to see what I type this sort of interaction wouldn’t work.

Take a Visual Display Unit break every 45 minutes if it makes you feel more attentive.

Remembering Zip Drives - the Trendy Storage Technology of the 1990s

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Back in the 1990s, floppy disks “had a mere capacity of 1.44MB,” remembers XDA Developers, “which would soon become absolutely tiny for the increasingly large pieces of software that would come about.”
Floppy disks also felt quite fragile, and while we got “superfloppy” formats that were physically larger and had more capacity, those were pretty unwieldy as portable storage. Enter 1994, when a company called Iomega introduced its variant of a “superfloppy”, the Zip drive… [T]he initial capacity introduced in 1994 reached a whopping 100MB, which was huge number when put up against the traditional floppy disk. Zip drives also had major performance benefits, with read speeds that could average 1.4MB/s, as opposed to the comparatively sluggish 16kB/s speeds of a traditional floppy disk, as well as a seek time of around 28ms seconds, whereas a floppy disk averaged 200ms. Zip drives weren’t quite as fast as desktop HDDs, but for portable storage, this was a huge step forward…

[I]n 1998, Iomega introduced the Zip 250 disks, which increased the capacity to 250MB, and, already in the new millennium, we got the Zip 750, which took that further to 750MB… It was an appealing enough proposition that big computer manufacturers like Dell started including a Zip drive in some of their PCs. Even Apple included Zip drives in some of its Power Macintosh models from the mid-to-late 90s. However, things started to shift towards the end of the decade as other portable formats rose to prominence, most notably CDs and USB flash drives.

Despite their initial success, it didn’t take long for users to start noticing a major drawback of Zip drives: many times, they would just fail. It wasn’t necessarily related to age or any particular misuse of the disks, it just happened. It was a big enough phenomenon that it became known as the “click of death”, and once it happened, your drive was gone. The problem was estimated by Iomega to affect around 0.5% of Zip drives, but while that sounds like a small number, when you sell products by the thousands, it becomes fairly widespread. It was a big enough issue that, in September 1998, a class action lawsuit was filed against Iomega for the common problems. Some of the complaints in that lawsuit were eventually dismissed by the court of Delaware, but others were not, and once the public became aware of the problems with Zip drives, it was hard for the brand to make a comeback.

It didn’t help that this happened around the same time as formats such as CDs were becoming more popular… And eventually, USB flash drives became the most popular way to carry data around since they were smaller and offered much faster speeds… Eventually, after seeing its profits plummet by the mid-2000s, Iomega was sold to a company called EMC in 2008, and in 2013, EMC and Lenovo formed a joint venture that took over Iomega’s business and removed all of the Iomega branding from its products.
The article does note that “as late as 2014, some aviation companies were still using Zip drives to distribute updates for navigation databases.” Are there any Slashdot readers who still remember their own Zip drive experiences?

Share your memories in the comments of that once-so-trendy storage technology from the 1990s…

amazing for its time

By Ender_Wiggin • Score: 5, Informative Thread

It held the equivalent over 70 floppy disks, at the time of its introduction it was a huge leap forward and despite being proprietary it was such a popular format.

Originally SCSI and Parallel-port only (or internal), then it got onto USB.

Iomega also had the Jaz drives, which held 1GB. Hot swappable hard drives was a wild idea, the problem was it had a reputation for major reliability issues and high failures.

They looked really cool

By locater16 • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
I mean, look at this thing,it was a sci-fi Gameboy Advance doohiky before there was the GBA. But then I recently learned Japan had minidisc during the 90’s, and just look at this cool thing, that’s even cooler, I’m pretty sure it’s what Neo hands some guy at the beginning of The Matrix, and kid me is jealous of how cool this looks.

There was also the LS120

By flightmaker • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I have a couple of these drives gathering dust on the top shelf of my play room. They fitted a standard floppy drive slot but connected to the PATA socket on the motherboard. I just looked on the label of one of them which has a manufacturing date of march 1999.

These were a great idea. They were compatible with standard 1.44MB floppy discs so didn’t take up an extra slot in the PC case but could also use the special discs which could store 120MB.

Unfortunately, after using them for a short while, I started to find errors when reading back to check and verify backup archive files. The drives themselves didn’t fail when I was using them but the media proved to be pretty much as unreliable as the late manufactured cheap and very nasty standard floppy discs.

Soon afterwards, reliable USB flash drives were becoming cheaper in ever increasing capacities so I donated an unopened, factory shrink wrapped box of LS120 discs to the local Museum of Computing. So that was the end of the super floppy.

Re:The 90s are not ancient history!

By thegarbz • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

This is the tech industry. The talking about the 90s may as well be about archaeologists digging in Pompeii. The tech landscape was literally nothing at all like what it is today. We have different tech, providing different benefits, doing different things, used in fundamentally different ways. It is absolutely ancient history and storage in the 90s is about as different to today as storage in the 50s from punch cards differs to today.

There is literally zero in common in storage now to then. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to make sure my files have cloud sync’d from the internet properly before my flight (something which didn’t even exist as a storage concept back in the 90s, let alone something millions of people do)

Re:I owned three.

By tragedy • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I didn’t ever get the click of death.

I think the device’s vulnerability to it depended on the revision. Not to mention that, if I recall correctly - and it was a while ago - the problem could actually be with the disks rather than the drive. Or rather, the problem was basically infectious. It was caused by the drive heads overextending, but damage on the disks could cause the drive heads to overextend, damaging the mechanism. The thing is, those damaged mechanisms would then damage zip disks put into them. Then those damaged disks could be damaged in such a way that they would cause another zip drive they were placed in to experience the same damage.

At least, that is my vague recollection of what I remember hearing at the time, which I can’t remember the source of, so I can’t vouch for its accuracy. It did seem like a decent explanation for serial failures though. Some people would insist that theirs never had a problem while others would complain about them failing over and over again and it is entirely possible that it is because, after they replaced it, they would try to get their files off their disks and then the problem would spread to the new drive.

My understanding is that they were supposed to have fixed it in later versions, but other posts on this article suggests that it was mitigated rather than outright fixed and that some units were simply less vulnerable than others.