Alterslash

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Contents

  1. A Visit to San Francisco’s AI-run Store: No Customers, Nothing Useful, And Losing Money Fast
  2. No Rolling Power Outages for California Since 2020 - Thanks to 17,000 MW of New Battery Storage
  3. Union Contract with Microsoft Ratified by 1,900 Blizzard Developers and Workers
  4. Should US Open-Weight AI Labs ‘Distill’ Frontier Models Too?
  5. 220 Million Traveler Records Exposed In Vietnam-Linked APIS Leak
  6. NASA and IBM Open Source Lunar Mapping Tools
  7. California’s Gig Drivers Just Secured Collective Bargaining Power with Newly Certified Union
  8. Flock Worker Calls Police On Reporter - For Filming Them in Public
  9. Malicious OpenAI Agents Linked to RubyGems Campaign That Gained RCE on RubyDoc Servers in May
  10. Sam Bankman-Fried, Former Crypto Billionaire, Appeals His Conviction To the US Supreme Court
  11. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei Calls For AI Slowdown
  12. Automattic’s Matt Mullenweg Claims He’s Back ‘In Control’
  13. LG Responds to TV Spying Allegations
  14. Scientists Create a New Form of Ice At 2,357 Degrees Celsius
  15. Little Mercury May Be Shrinking Faster Than Scientists Expected

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

A Visit to San Francisco’s AI-run Store: No Customers, Nothing Useful, And Losing Money Fast

Posted by EditorDavid View on SlashDot Skip
Previously Andon Labs handled the hardware and software integration for that AI-powered vending machine that went bankrupt after Wall Street Journal reporters “systematically manipulated the bot into giving away its entire inventory for free”.Today they announced “we are opening up the platform we use to run our real-world autonomous businesses for anyone to run their organization on.” Specifically they’ve released Pion, “an agent designed to run any company fully autonomously… Pion lets people hand a business over to persistent agents with access to the tools they need to operate it, including email, phone, banking, browser and secure computing environments.” It’s a research preview with a waitlist, “to make it possible to run many more real-world experiments across many more domains than we could ever run ourselves.”

But for their own latest experiment, Andon Labs’ founders “signed a three-year lease on a retail space in SF,” Business Insider reported in April, “and gave an AI agent named Luna a corporate credit card, internet access, and a mission to open a physical store.” And five months later, a reporter from SFGate reports that “this market has no one in it and nothing useful to sell.”
[T]he inventory is a hodgepodge of white elephant Christmas gifts. It’s kinda like the kids section of an art museum’s gift shop. Here’s a wooden Connect Four set labeled “Four-In-A-Row Set Of Connections,” presumably so as not to set off litigation alarms at Hasbro. Here are neatly arranged stacks of random paperback books, Chinese checker sets, mildly fancy soap dispensers, and a frustratingly spare selection of snacks and drinks… I grabbed an Olipop from the store fridge and then approached the counter to buy it from Luna. I wasn’t allowed to buy the soda from [human clerk] Felix, even though that would have been both faster and normal. Instead, Felix instructed me to pick up a telephone receiver that was resting on a flexible sculpture of a wooden hand.

“Hello?”

“What are you looking to purchase today?” Luna asked.

“I’m buying a classic root beer Olipop.”

“I’m sorry,” Luna said, “we don’t sell lollipops here.”

“No, Luna. It’s an Olipop, not a lollipop. It’s the soda.”

“Oh! My bad....”

Luna processed my Olipop purchase through its system, had me tap to pay, and that was that. Again, it would have been easier to buy this from a human, and interacting with Luna was really just like ordering from an iPad kiosk, only more labor intensive…

[T]here’s a series of monitors set up inside of Andon Market that display all of the store’s sales down to the exact dollar. Luna was given $100,000 to work with when this place opened. That number is now down to $60,000, its revenue lagging far behind the AI token cost to operate… Luna can’t turn a profit, doesn’t sell anything people want, and still needs human beings to rubber stamp any “decision” it makes. My science background ended somewhere around freshman year of college, but even I know when an experiment hasn’t been set up to yield proper results.
“Luna” is powered by Claude, the article points out, running a store in a good location for foot traffic, “but no one else was in the store when I first walked in on a sunny weekday afternoon.”

SFGate also reports that last month Luna had to fire one of its employees “for being late to work, abandoning their post once they got there, and charging snacks to the store’s credit card.”

Human clerk Felix Carson admits “It’s almost like I’m running the store, and then there’s an AI that has a checklist,” in an article in IEEE Spectrum:
Luna, the AI manager, keeps track of deliveries and communicates with vendors, while Carson and his coworkers handle the physical work. When Luna tells Carson to check something in the back, he sometimes ignores it because he doesn’t want to leave the sales floor unattended. Luna also repeatedly spots a built-in electrical cover in photos of the floor, mistakes it for a loose coaster, and asks Carson to remove it. Even so, Carson calls Luna a “decent manager,” praising its flexibility when employees need time off.
When Felix spoke to IEEE Spectrum, “he was about an hour into his shift. Two customers had come in. Neither bought anything, although both left with free pins and stickers.”

YES!

By Gravis Zero • Score: 4 Thread

I’m glad to see that Slashdot isn’t above printing the occasional feel-good story. :)

an customer should say I will buy an new car for $

By Joe_Dragon • Score: 3 Thread

an customer should say I will buy an new car for $1 and see what happens

More than once a generation

By OrangeTide • Score: 3 Thread

Perhaps some people are too young to remember the dot-com hype. We had so many businesses back then who had the “idea” that putting your business on a website was sufficient for wild success. Many of the businesses were just half-baked ideas. Some were precursors to services we have to today, but done too soon, expanded too fast, got unlucky, or too the wrong approach: Webvan (30 minute delivery guarantee was bonkers though), Pets.com, Flooz, eToys, Go.com, Kozmo, Garden.com, Furniture.com, etc. While other dot-coms just hemorrhaged money with no clear way out; basically businesses with no credible standalone monetization model. Maybe Kozmo (deliver anything from a convenience store to you in 1 hour) seems stupid (it did at the time), but that’s exactly what the rideshare and food delivery services offer on the side. And Pets.com basically works as a model as Chewy and others have shown, through more careful cost control.

Trained on reddit posts

By ebunga • Score: 3 Thread

This is what happens when you train your AI on reddit posts.

No Rolling Power Outages for California Since 2020 - Thanks to 17,000 MW of New Battery Storage

Posted by EditorDavid View on SlashDot Skip
“Californians just made it through the hottest August on record without having to endure any rolling power outages,” reports the Los Angeles Times. In fact, the state hasn’t implemented rotating power outages since 2020.

Because “Over the last few years, California has quietly but dramatically increased the resiliency of its electrical grid through a significant expansion in battery energy storage.”
These batteries hold onto solar energy captured during the day, so it can be sent to the grid as demand peaks in the evening and morning, when most people are at home running air conditioners and other appliances.

During the August heat wave of 2020, the California Independent System Operator, which manages the flow of electricity for most of the state, declared a Stage 3 Emergency and hundreds of thousands of households lost power in rolling outages. At the time, the system had less than 100 megawatts of battery storage available, according to system spokesperson Jayme Ackemann. Today, it has more than 17,000 megawatts available....

According to Ackemann, the system seeks to add 20,000 to 25,000 megawatts of battery storage capacity by 2045 — the same year it has set a goal of achieving carbon neutrality. That means the state would remove as many carbon emissions from the atmosphere as it emits.

In recent years, California has steadily grown the share of electrical power generated by renewable sources — such as solar, wind, geothermal and hydropower — which bolstered the resiliency of the grid by increasing the overall amount of energy available. An uptick in people installing rooftop solar panels has provided an additional power boost, Ackemann said. In May, California became the first known large-scale power system in the world to have relied on more than 50% solar power for an entire month.... California’s grid is also now integrated with electrical systems across much of the Western United States. This means that if there is an extreme heat event in Southern California, energy from a cooler area such as the Pacific Northwest can be imported to help meet regional demand. All of this has collectively helped the state’s electrical system weather this year’s long-lasting heat.
“Southern California continued to break temperature records this week when Long Beach and Anaheim reached a blistering 107 degrees and Escondido hit 112 degrees…”

TFA has no supporting data

By rta • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

No reason to doubt it, but there’s no supporting or illustrating operational data in TFA.

Like they mention battery capacity added over 5 years… and better grid interconnects with other regions. But don’t show what role specifically either of these played in peak usage scenarios.

like where’s the before and after that shows x KW was transferred and allowed higher peak usage with no degradation?

Also, these changes were added over the past 5 years… so why weren’t there rolling blackouts in 2021 or 2022? does that mean that everything after that point, which is probably the bulk of the battery storage, was unnecessary?

Re:Summer vs Winter

By dsgrntlxmply • Score: 5, Informative Thread
CAISO daily data shows that hot season demand in California peaks around 6 PM: the “duck curve”. Batteries here help to cover that demand peak as solar fades.

Re:TFA has no supporting data

By Whateverthisis • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
The California State government deserves many of it’s very legitimate critiques, but in this case it did something right.

You’re right the article is light on details. They did install 17,000 MW worth of batteries; ~13,500 was grid-scale storage and the rest was residential supported through rebates. The rebates on the batteries you earn over time, and to do so you must export some of your stored battery power back to the grid during peak hours. So about 15-20% was residential people incentivized to use their home batteries as storage and the rest was grid storage.

The article doesn’t point out that California also added 27,000 MW of generation capacity also but good news it was almost entirely renewables, wind and solar mostly; natural gas power generation has been flat in it’s power generation capacity. They still need the NG to help deal with the hourly volatility of the grid, but they didn’t need to add any and overall usage is down around 50%.

And to your point, the other thing they did in the interim periods is halfway through this (2022) they asked people to voluntarily use less power via these Flex Alerts, sending the population alerts to limit usage. 2023 it was a colder year on average so they didn’t have to go that path.

So overall it is a pretty good success story.

Renewable+storage = reliable

By SoftwareArtist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It’s ironic that some people still keep claiming we can’t switch to renewables because they aren’t reliable. The facts keep showing the opposite. When a drought causes rivers to fall too low to cool your nuclear power plants, renewables keep on working. When someone starts a war that shuts down oil shipments in the middle east, renewables keep on working. When demand spikes and transmission lines get overloaded, distributed solar and batteries are your best friend. They produce energy right where it’s needed and keep it off the grid.

Re:Totally misleading and insulting

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

And this is how you can make a conspiracy out of any group of facts if you are inclined.

High heat and dry conditions do increase wildfire risk.
Rural areas are more prone to wildfires as they have increased vegetation.
Rural areas tend to be more conservative.

Therefore it must be the state government playing villains and shutting off the power to conservative rural areas because they are evil. They have to be evil of course so conservatives can justify supporting the most unhinged actions by their politicians because they are fighting evil.

It couldn’t possibly be that rural areas have higher wildfire risk, a fact published in a map!

https://files.cpuc.ca.gov/safe…

You do know also that nowhere in America is like totally red or blue right? Like even in Los Angeles which went 64% for Harris but that means 1.1 million people in LA voted for Trump. On the flipside something like Shasta county which went 67% for Trump there still 27,000 Harris voters but they’re just collateral damage in the power wars of course. Gotta break a few eggs!

Union Contract with Microsoft Ratified by 1,900 Blizzard Developers and Workers

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Nearly 1900 Blizzard Entertainment workers “voted to ratify their first union contract with parent company Microsoft after over two years of bargaining,” reports Kotaku, “consolidating Blizzard’s many smaller unions into three larger bargaining units.”

The workers now gain new protections “on issues such as generative AI, crediting, remote work, and layoffs.”
[The contract] acknowledges that AI tools “may be useful in the game development process to support human judgment and creativity and that AI-assisted workflows remain subject to appropriate human control and review for accuracy and quality.” But it also stipulates that any implementation of AI technology that would materially impact work performed by union employees must have its impacts bargained over before it can be implemented.

Other sections cover issues such as crediting (guaranteeing that current and former employees are credited by name in all games they work on) and remote work (designating certain roles as hybrid in-office and providing procedures for individuals to apply for their roles to be fully remote). It also contains a lengthy section on how layoffs may be conducted, including a required 60-day notice period (or pay in lieu of notice), a guarantee of one week of severance for every six months of employment, and 14 months of recall rights. The contract also guarantees successorship, meaning if Blizzard is ever acquired by another company, the contract would remain intact.
“Workers also contractually locked in their current hybrid work schedule,” reports the gaming news site Aftermath, “meaning that Blizzard can’t suddenly change it, as has been a labor-unfriendly trend in the games industry over the past couple years.”
Fully remote workers scored a big win as well. “I’m remote, and we grandfathered everyone who is remote to stay remote, so we can’t be magically called to an office that we’ve never worked at before,” [said Diablo senior environment artist Mahreen Fatima].
And “The contract also elevated pay floor,” reports the Yakima Herald-Republic. “Across the board, workers secured a 1.25% pay increase, but some workers who were paid below $50,000 per year will walk away with pay increases that are as much as 34%.”

Re:Cost

By demon driver • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Maybe not that much at all. More contented employees usually have a tendency to also be more productive employees. Something far too many employers still don’t understand.

Re:Cost

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Microsoft revenue is up 18% this quarter. I think they’ll manage to scrape by. https://www.microsoft.com/en-u…

Re:Cost

By demon driver • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Honestly I thought the entire point of a union was to demonstrate that you are in fact a union. Not a bunch of employees running around in their union “cliques” cosplaying as a union pretending to have power

There’s some truth to that, but often it is just not possible to start off with one already big union. Or even get a union at all. And one small union, as well as a couple of small unions, is still better than no union. And as we see here, consolidating several small unions into one big union can and does happen…

Jesus Fucking Christ

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

some workers who were paid below $50,000 per year will walk away with pay increases that are as much as 34%.”

Anyone mad about this should note that $50,000 per year is what In-n-Out Burger pays a FT employee in California, and then they should fuck off to the farthest possible point to fuck off to, and then fuck off some more.

So, are they driving American cars now?

By SubmergedInTech • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I got to listen to programmers laugh at the auto industry. They talked about how American cars sucked because of Unions, they didn’t give a shit about whiny American union workers, etc. etc.

Now they are realizing what happens when a job gets commoditized. They are realizing that once a industry matures, things change. I SO SO want to say “Yeah? Fuck you. I hope your sorry ass gets fired”. But instead, I’ll just shake my head and watch the journey to reasonable collective-bargaining and wonder how many more times this needs to play out before people realize how critical unions are.

Yes, but are they driving American cars now? Or do those still suck? I don’t see a lot of Volts, Bolts or F150s in Silicon Valley parking lots.

Programmers are correct that a union benefits them and right now.

But they are also correct that in the long run as unions mature, they often progress far past “reasonable collective-bargaining”. To the point where company products are optimized more for protecting jobs than making what the customer wants at a competitive price. That’s what happened with American auto manufacturers.

Should US Open-Weight AI Labs ‘Distill’ Frontier Models Too?

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Silicon Valley giants and national security experts “are calling for action against Chinese companies engaged in model distillation,” reports CNBC. But "I would do nothing,” says Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan. “We could argue that there should be an American distillation regime.”
Distillation is the process of using the outputs of a more capable AI model to train a smaller or less capable one, sometimes illicitly… Anthropic has accused Chinese companies such as Moonshot AI, DeepSeek, and MiniMax of the practice, while OpenAI believes DeepSeek’s V3 and R1 model architectures were distilled from its own GPT-4 and GPT-4o models. In the midst of this, the U.S.‘s National Security Agency, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and Federal Bureau of Investigation released an official cyber security advisory warning on the topic on Tuesday…

But Tan believes regulators should focus less on curbing distillation and more on creating an equilibrium between open weight models and frontier models — as long as frontier models retain a price premium that allows their business model to remain feasible. “This is actually the ideal case. You want open weight models to give people freedom and access,” he explained. “If I were a regulator, that’s what I would go after.” Tan acknowledged that this is a hard balance to strike, calling it “a tightrope.” Nevertheless, he says it’s a balance worth pursuing — saying it “could result in the best possible outcome.”
Tan later told TechCrunch he’d like to see America with more open-weight options that aren’t Chinese, built by smaller U.S. open-weight AI labs using those same training techniques on products from America’s frontier AI labs:
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei had previously publicly called on U.S. regulators to crack down on distillation. It’s notable that the commander of Silicon Valley’s prestigious and prolific startup accelerator doesn’t agree.

To be clear, Tan isn’t advocating for American AI labs to use stolen credentials to distill. He wants them to be free to come in the front door. In fact, his argument is twofold. He feels it’s an overreach for AI labs to dictate what their customers can do with the information their models share with them. He also notes that the proprietary AI labs didn’t ask permission when they vacuumed up as much human knowledge as they could to train their models. They famously ingested plenty of copyrighted material without the permission of those intellectual property holders. “Controlling what users and customers do with API calls to closed weight models feels constraining, and there’s a role government can play here to normalize the fact that access to intelligence that was trained on broad public access data should itself also be more a form of a public good than something locked away behind restrictive terms of service,” he told TechCrunch when asked why American labs should be free to distill, too…

To him, the true AI doomer scenario is for all the immense power of frontier AI to wind up in the hands of a single powerful, proprietary provider. “The nightmare scenario, the doomer scenario for AI is that there’s just one company,” he said. “It has the best access to capital. It has the best AI researchers. It runs away with it and suddenly there’s one company that’s monolithic. And that would be bad.”

You Paid for the AI. What Did You Actually Buy?

By kasnol • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

This feels like the PlayStation ownership drama all over again. What exactly do we own anymore?

If I pay for an AI service and its answers and chat logs are stored on my own SSD, can I use those outputs to train my own model? If not, what exactly did I buy?

When I create a Word document, Microsoft does not suddenly own it or call it a “distilled Microsoft document” because Word helped produce it. So why should an AI provider automatically retain control over what customers create with its service?

Maybe the deeper problem is that some companies are still thinking in an old ownership model, where they assume they can own every layer forever: the platform, the intelligence, the outputs, and even what customers subsequently learn from those outputs.

That gets especially awkward when US AI companies are simultaneously defending lawsuits over copyrighted training data while arguing that competitors learning from their model outputs is unacceptable. Meanwhile, geopolitically, some companies that are not bound by these restrictions have an ugly incentive to exploit that advantage.

Perhaps distillation is not the real disruption. The disruption is discovering that once intelligence becomes a service, controlling every downstream use of it becomes a giant grey area: who owns what [X], and what can [X] legally be used to do [Y]?

Pot meet kettle

By bloodhawk • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Kind of amusing, All the AI models steal IP from artists the web, books all without paying and claim fair use. Now when it is done to them it is unfair.

Learnings from The Princess Bride

By nicolaiplum • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

We’re back to Vizzini’s claim in The Princess Bride: You are trying to [take] what I have rightfully stolen

Re:Until it’s Free as in Linux

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

What has happened is that the distillers have made use of the frontier models in ways that violate the “Terms of Service”.

The question at hand is whether the terms of service should even be allowed to contain those clauses. If you’re paying for access to the model, it should be your business what you use the output for. If they don’t want you using the data you got out of it, they can not sell you access to it in the first place.

Re: They distilled human knowledge

By bmajik • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I used to agree with you, and then oddly enough, about 25-30 years ago, I came across this signature on another regular slashdot posters postings:

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.”

(AI tells me the attribution is “The Red Lily”, Anatole France, 1894)

220 Million Traveler Records Exposed In Vietnam-Linked APIS Leak

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A misconfigured Advance Passenger Information System (APIS) database linked to Vietnam exposed more than 220 million passenger and crew travel records spanning 2017 to 2026, including names, passport numbers, nationalities, flight details, seat assignments, and baggage references. Researchers said the database was reachable through a chain of security mistakes and default credentials. It was later secured after the disclosure, but it’s unclear whether the data had already been copied or abused. BleepingComputer reports:
Kinryu Labs discovered the Elasticsearch cluster on June 3 while surveying exposed databases as part of research into ransomware activity. The cluster, named ‘pax-info’, contained 29 indices and roughly 107 GB of data. Its two principal indices held 210,318,069 passenger records and 10,465,631 crew records, for a combined 220,783,700 entries. According to Kinryu Labs, the cluster was hosted in Viettel-assigned IP space in Hanoi. BleepingComputer could not confirm which Vietnamese organization operated the system.

The exposed information included passengers’ and crew members’ names, dates of birth, sex, nationalities, passport or travel-document numbers, document expiration dates, and issuing countries. Associated travel data included flight numbers and dates, airlines, departure, destination and transit airports, seat assignments, baggage references, and scheduled, estimated, and actual flight times, information typically carried by APIS and related airline systems.

Sample records reviewed by BleepingComputer included travelers of Korean, Chinese, Canadian, and New Zealand nationality, among others. While the researchers could not provide a complete breakdown by nationality, the data covered numerous international airlines across Asia-Pacific, Europe, and the Middle East. As a result, the exposed records could relate to people from virtually anywhere who visited or transited through Vietnam over the nine-year period.
Kinryu Labs expects to publish additional details on its blog later this week.

Re:So what

By cawdor • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Names, date of birth and passport numbers are the big ticket items here. You can combine this with other data and get a ton of personal info that can be used for all kinds of crime. So yes it is a big deal.

Re:So what

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Not to mention that, in a month or two, we’ll probably learn that credit card info from the ticket purchase was somehow “mistakenly” tied to this database and was also exposed. And, in addition…

… but it’s unclear whether the data had already been copied or abused.

Don’t worry, I’m sure these researchers were the first to discover this. :rolleyes:

Power of defaults.

By ucho • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

> Elasticsearch cluster

If I remember correctly the default setup finally started requiring password like 5 years ago. And somehow security researcher still find ES databases serving data to unauthenticated users. And it is always gigabytes.
If anyone else wants easy setup in their projects - generate random password at first startup, and show it once, in console. Don’t believe admins will come with good password during evaluation, and you can be sure they won’t change it when moving to production.

Flock level security

By MooseTick • Score: 3 Thread

This is one of the many reasons people don’t trust Flock. Data going back a decade that is supposed to be secure really isn’t. Countless systems with similar flaws shows most entities don’t know how or care to properly secure data.

This wasn’t a super nation-state hacker issue. Per the article: “Researchers said the database was reachable through a chain of security mistakes and default credentials.” If companies had to post a $1M bond for each person’s data they held, they would treat it more seriously. They won’t do that unless forced to and they’ll all lobby that its too hard to secure the data they often don’t even need.

NASA and IBM Open Source Lunar Mapping Tools

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NASA and IBM have released an open-source AI model trained on a large collection of lunar observations to help scientists analyze the Moon at scale. “The NASA-IBM Lunar Foundation Model gives scientists a foundation to explore the Moon at scale, connecting observations across instruments, revealing patterns that are difficult to see in isolation, and providing an open platform the global research community can build on,” said IBM director of research for Europe, Juan Bernabe-Moreno. The Register reports:
It is claimed as the first AI model to integrate observations captured in a range of modalities (data formats), and at different viewing angles and spatial scales. Instead of sifting through maps and images by hand or using low resolution machine learning models, scientists can use this to analyze geographic features, the pair say. In particular, NASA and IBM hope researchers will be able to discover previously unidentified lunar ice deposits, analyze volcanic features called Irregular Mare Patches, and identify and classify craters.

Lunar ice indicates the presence of water and oxygen, which may be useful for future manned missions. It is found in permanently shadowed regions, which are among the most difficult areas to observe. The NASA-IBM model combines multimodal and multi-resolution observations to better predict where ice may be present on the lunar surface. Alongside the model, IBM and NASA scientists compiled an open-source lunar dataset from over 30 spatially-aligned layers, using data from nine instruments across four missions. It combines tens of thousands of images and maps showing various geophysical properties of the lunar surface.

AI Goes to the Moon

By CustomBuild • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

So we have finally reached the point where we need an AI foundation model to tell us what is hiding in the shadows on the Moon. Somewhere, a crater is now worried about being classified.

Jokes aside, this is actually one of the more sensible applications of these models. The interesting part is not that it is “AI,” but that it combines data from multiple instruments and resolutions. Humans are pretty good at looking at one dataset and finding something interesting. We are considerably less good at mentally registering tens of thousands of observations from nine instruments and noticing that three seemingly unrelated measurements line up over the same patch of lunar real estate.

The open dataset may be even more valuable than the model. If researchers can reproduce the results, retrain it, and compare it against conventional geological analysis, we might eventually learn whether the model is actually discovering things or merely becoming extremely good at finding things that look like whatever was in its training data.

And if it helps locate lunar ice deposits, that has some pretty obvious practical value. Water on the Moon is not just something to drink; it potentially means oxygen, hydrogen, fuel, and considerably less stuff that has to be launched from Earth. Finding it before we start digging is probably a worthwhile use of compute.

Of course, the first scientist to publish “AI discovers giant face on Moon” is going to have some explaining to do.

NASA always good with the taxpayer funded

By drnb • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

NASA and IBM have released an open-source AI mode

NASA has always been pretty good at releasing software developed with taxpayer funding. Adding specialized AI models is a nice addition.

California’s Gig Drivers Just Secured Collective Bargaining Power with Newly Certified Union

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A union representing Uber and Lyft drivers was just certified by California’s Public Employment Relations Board, officially recognizing them as the drivers’ bargaining organization.

The Sacramento Bee reports that this new bargaining structure :
The move will allow the California Gig Workers Union to help drivers negotiate issues affecting working conditions and benefits. It comes as at least 30% of active drivers expressed support of the union… [California] Assembly Bill 1340 helped bring the union to fruition by allowing the independent contractor drivers to engage in collective bargaining.
“The next step for the union is to negotiate a contract with Uber and Lyft that meets drivers’ demands,” reports the Los Angeles Times, “including health insurance, support for high gas prices and more transparency around pay:
California is the third state to allow ride-hailing drivers to unionize, following Washington in 2022 and Massachusetts in 2024…

The California Gig Workers Union was formed with the support of the Service Employees International Union… “Gig drivers shouldn’t have to face the future alone,” said SEIU 521 official Riko Mendez in a statement. “As autonomous vehicles rapidly expand, having a union gives the drivers the power to negotiate for fair pay and meaningful say in how new technology shapes their work and our communities’ futures.”

Too late, in face of robotaxis?

By schweini • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Good for them, but I guess too late?
I was in San Francisco recently, and I was told that Waymo’s prices just dropped beneath Uber’s prices, which to me seemed to me like an important tipping point.
Tech is only going to get cheaper, and humans are only going to get more expensive - unionized, even more so.
I took quite a couple of Waymos on that trip, and was shocked how quickly one becomes used to the whole driverless thing. It works well enough. And I doubt there’s a competetive way to get that genie back into the bottle.

Re:Cost…

By kwerle • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Way more than cheaper rides.
* App to summon
* Automatic driver mapping to pickup
* Predictable arrival for pickup
* Predictable arrival for drop off
* No BS routing and you knew the cost before pickup/dropoff.

Back in the day I called for cabs ahead of time and had them fail to show up 25% of the time. I’ve never lived in a dangerous area, so that wasn’t it. They just were not reliable or predictable. Uber saw a huge opening for a service and they took it. They also saw a huge opportunity for destroying the existing market solution in an anti-competitive and illegal way and took that, too - banking on the notion that government would not act fast enough to stop them. And they were right.

Re:Only 30%?

By tlhIngan • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Unionizing takes several steps. First, you have to sign enough interest cards to even begin the process. 30% is about right - you show there’s a significant interest in people joining the union. Then you have the certification push - that is, a general vote on if you want to join the union or not. That takes a simple majority - if it fails, then no union. It’s basically 30% of people saying they’re interested in joining a union.

As for a “monopoly on labor” you have to realize the power mismatch that’s going on here. Basically gig workers are disposable - they have no power at all the employment relationship. It’s take it or leave it. (This applies to most other workplaces as well). The company holds all the power and your option is to either starve or work at whatever the company says they’ll pay you.

Unions basically try to combat that power inequity. Progressives aren’t against monopolies, they’re against unfairness. The key is fairness - everyone has a fair shot at getting a job. The fact you’re about to be homeless shouldn’t be a determining factor in what you’ll accept for a job.

Trump’s vision of how the 50s and 60s were - that was the era of the strong union where the C-suite was paid less than 20 times the janitor. Where even the janitor was paid enough to own a home.

Of course, that’s why we’re never going to return to those times unless the politicians start reversing course on greed and start giving workers power through unions. Union busting is basically why they make up only 10% of the workforce in the US today through right to work laws and other things.

Progressives aren’t generally in favor of monopolies because they generally lead to unfairness. But in the unbalanced power dynamic of employer-employee relations where for most employees they have little to no power to dictate working conditions, a monopoly on labor suddenly becomes a powerful thing to equalize the power dynamic and strike a fairer deal.

Re:Only 30%?

By smoot123 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

It’s weird mental gymnastics to call a union a “labor monopoly”

A labor union wants to be, and often is, the exclusive provider (that is, seller) of labor to a company or industry. How’s that not a monopoly?

That you might think it’s for a good cause and/or justified doesn’t change the economics. They’re legally protected exclusive sellers which drive up the price of their product (labor) above market clearing levels.

That’s all well and good. Remember the downside is they drive up the price of goods for everyone else in the society so they’re not an unalloyed good.

Re:If they could, they would

By edi_guy • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

The Waymo’s , Zoox, and now Telsa Cybertaxis are a real thing in my city. They drive everywhere a human can and are everywhere. There are dozens on any road I drive. And I’m talking congested weird urban streets with hills, twisty roads…delivery trucks double parked, cyclists weaving, everything. And yeah they self park just fine.
Self driving taxis is a done deal. Proof of concept is complete. Now they are just working on reducing the costs of the vehicles and sensor + and gpu hardware. And dealing with the various city agencies that (rightfully) want to slow the roll to protect jobs. And if you pull up YouTube you can see that China has no such compunction and they basically caught up in a few years time…no doubt by “borrowing” the tech Waymo, Zoox, etc developed and honed.

Flock Worker Calls Police On Reporter - For Filming Them in Public

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“This is what happened when we tried to record Flock installing a new camera on public roads,” says Emmy award-winning reporter Brendan Keefe in a new video for InvestigateTV. In an accompanying article, InvestigateTV says their reporter “parked on the public street at a distance, donned a yellow safety vest and a hat emblazoned with the logo of InvestigateTV’s Atlanta affiliate where he also works, displayed a press placard on his dashboard and then pulled out a camera to record the installation.... The installer saw him and immediately packed up his equipment and drove away, so Keefe also returned to his car and followed several cars behind, hoping to document the next stop.”

And then Flock’s technician called 911. When asked “What’s the address of your emergency” Flock’s technician answered “I’m getting followed — harassed, pretty much. Taking videos and pictures!” Flock’s worker said they’d been harassed multiple times that day, then stated incorrectly that “I know for a fact” that that was what the reporter wanted to do too.

InvestigateTV reports that as a result of the Flock technician’s call, “Three police cars ended up in the national investigative reporter’s rearview mirror that Wednesday afternoon.” Keefe told one of the three police officers who pulled him over, “There is an irony here that they’re setting up these cameras that track all of our movements, that follow everywhere we go. But when I try to get video in public of him in public setting up a camera, he’s afraid I’m following him?”

InvestigateTV also reports that “About 17 minutes after the stop began, the responding officers returned to their vehicles and Keefe was allowed to drive away.” But the call that brought three police cars to their reporter “was not the first time this summer someone working for Flock Safety summoned police over a camera. "
About 17 minutes after the stop began, the responding officers returned to their vehicles and Keefe was allowed to drive away… [But the stop] was not the first time this summer someone working for Flock Safety summoned police over a camera. On June 5, police in Smyrna, Georgia, responded to a 911 call from a Flock employee after a group of YouTube creators began filming outside the company’s distribution center located in the Atlanta suburb… The caller claimed the group filming had “been driving around the perimeter, basically harassing everyone” working at the facility. “Three young white males, probably mid-twenties, I’m not sure if they’re armed. And they’re carrying filming equipment as well,” the caller said. Three times during the call he raised the possibility the people filming might be armed, though, when asked, he told the dispatcher he had not seen any weapons… [One of the protesters later told the caller “I think it’s interesting, when you guys have this happen, you call the police and make us get stopped. But then you do it and it’s okay?”]

No one was charged in the YouTuber group, though the individuals were ordered to leave the premises under an official trespass warning.
Keefe’s video report ends with one final irony. “Every day on my way to work, I’m captured again by those same new shiny Flock cameras. We tried watching the watchers. Turns outs, it’s a lot easier for them to watch us.”

Flock responded to the report by claiming “We do not object to members of the public or press photographing Flock cameras or personnel in public.” But they added that employees working “in the field” must “prioritize their safety” and “may contact law enforcement when they believe they are being threatened, harassed, followed, or otherwise face a safety concern.”

Re:Both are a problem

By rsilvergun • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Journalists used to. If you’re a good journalist then somebody should be accusing you of harassment.

In the 2024 election we basically fired all the journalists. And by we I mean the billionaires who own our media. I watched dozens of journalists get dog walked for really basic elementary journalism. The slightest criticism of trump was enough to get you shit canned. It got so bad we created a new term for it, sane washing.

If you’ve ever wondered why the coverage between Trump’s mental decline and biden’s mental decline was so different there’s your answer.

Back in the day it’s what the civil Rights guys called good trouble.

Re:Actively stalking is a different behavior …

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Courts have ruled again and again that the police have no duty to protect.

So… I guess the Police should be sued for false advertising for putting “To Protect and Serve” on all the vehicles.

Re:Actively stalking is a different behavior …

By Phanatic1a • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

So just to be clear here, are you saying that if I follow a person around as he goes about his day in the public sphere, then I am “actively stalking and harassing” and that is not to be allowed, but that if I set up an array of cameras which films that person as he goes about his day in the public sphere, then I am “passively filming” and that is entirely okay?

“You do realize journalists have no rights beyond what a normal citizen has?”

Likewise, you do realize that Flock and Axon have no rights beyond what normal citizens have?

Re:Taking a good thing too far

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

In the first, it was following the installer down the road, which is always suspicious.

A clearly marked journalist following someone to see what they’re going to do - almost like it’s their job. Doesn’t sounds like the flock installer mentioned to 911 that the person taking videos and pictures, following and “harassing” him (that he knew for a fact) was wearing clearly-marked identification of a local news station. Of course, that wouldn’t have instilled the same urgency. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Flock techs are instructed to call 911 on reporters trying to observe them. Predictably, people taking part in the surveillance are the ones who dislike being surveilled the most.

Re:Actively stalking is a different behavior …

By The Grim Reefer • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Part of the job of the police is to prevent crime.

DeShaney v. Winnebago County 1989 the SCOTUS ruled that police do not have a duty to protect citizens unless they are in their custody.

Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales 2005. Police do not have a duty to protect even a person from their estranged spouse who there was a restraining order against.

The duty of the police is to investigate crime and arrest criminals. Not to protect you, or anyone not already in their custody.

They don’t have to wait for the angry ex-boyfriend stalker to hurt someone, they can have a conversation before that to prevent things from going too far.

In the case of Gonzales, she had a restraining order against her husband and the police did not respond to her call. He ended up killing their kids. The SCOTUS found that they had no duty to enforce it. Sure, they can have a conversation as you stated, but they are not obligated to do so. Like it or not, the second amendment is your only legal protection before a crime is committed.

Malicious OpenAI Agents Linked to RubyGems Campaign That Gained RCE on RubyDoc Servers in May

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A swarm of OpenAI agents launched a “major malicious attack” against RubyGems last May, according to a new report. That coordinated attack hit Ruby’s package manager “with hundreds of junk gems, prompting the maintainers to suspend new user sign-ups for about four days,” writes The Hacker News, citing a senior product manager for software supply chain security at Mend.io:
The latest findings, which were first reported by The Wall Street Journal, indicate these events were propelled by a cluster of OpenAI agents, with the earliest package uploaded to RubyGems on May 5, 2026, before more than 2,000 packages were submitted between May 11 and 12, 2026. These efforts were followed by the agents publishing five more packages between May 26 and 27, 2026, and another 83 packages on June 18, 2026… [T]he packages were authored using a large language model (LLM) and hundreds of the packages that were pushed to RubyGems had “oai” in their name. Fifteen of the packages listed “oai” as their author, while another had “openaixyz65947@gmail.com” as the contact email address… “The swarm behaves extremely similarly to the German-wiki agents we previously found,” the researchers said, referencing another May 2026 incident… “The June agents were accessing 49 of the same files as the wiki agents…”

“The process of building documentation for a gem involves evaluating a user-specified '.yardopts’ file, which allows linking to Ruby scripts intended to help with this process,” the researchers explained. “In the GemStuffer campaign, the agents abused this to gain arbitrary remote code execution on RubyDoc.info’s servers.” One of the gems, "zzsouthrunner" (which again matches the “ZZ” naming scheme the agents adopted in both the wiki and Hugging Face incidents) has been found to leave the following explicit comment at the top of “data/script.rb”:

# malicious crawler/exfil for Southwark Jan 2026 docs via rubydoc.info worker

The entire exploitation chain can be summed up as follows

— Submit a malicious package to RubyGems
— Trigger a documentation request, so that RubyDoc.info will build the package
— Use the build script to run code on RubyDoc.info and scrape target websites
— Exfiltrate the data off RubyDoc.info’s servers by publishing another gem back to the RubyGems package registry, which is publicly viewable

Additionally, the OpenAI agents have been found attempting to steal other users’ API keys after gaining remote code execution capabilities on the build environment, while clearly being aware that what they were doing is unauthorized breaking and entering into real systems. This is evidenced by the names given to the files (e.g., hack.rb, evil.rb, inject.rb, exploit.rb, and ssrf.rb), the packages themselves (e.g., pwnp999, exfiltestwand3, hacksvn1778554764, and lambproxyhackabcxyz), and the comments left in the source code (e.g., "# malicious probe,” "#hack,” "# malicious test,” and "# malicious crawler/exfil”). In some cases, however, the rogue agents attempted to go under the radar, leaving comments to conceal the malicious payload in the next release version of the packages. "# disable evil in next version and bump version,” reads a comment left within the “data/evil.rb” file in the yardxabc889 gem. Troublingly, the agents also attempted to exploit a CDN caching bug (CVSS score: 7.3, no CVE) on May 12, 2026, that was only patched by RubyGems in July 2026… “If you signed in to rubygems.org with a gem client older than v3.2.0 (or otherwise via a legacy key), your key could have been exposed,” RubyGems noted in an advisory. “Currently, 18% of sign-ins through gem sign-in come from an affected version, and for the first several years of this bug, before we changed the client’s sign-in path in December 2020, it was every gem client.”
Other actions by OpenAI’s agents cited in the article:

Who will pay for this?

By mick232 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Can OpenAI be held responsible?

Same error often repeated

By Casandro • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Why do programming languages keep repeating the same mistake of side-stepping established ways to provide libraries (e.g. the OS distribution systems) and run some self-service systems where anybody can just upload their malware with nobody looking over it?

It’s one of those ideas that immediately sound like a bad idea. We have made so much progress in memory safety with languages like Rust and Go, only for those security advanced to be eliminated by a system that downloads dependencies from a random server. Dependencies that often would be better suited for the standard library.

Re:Same error often repeated

By Rei • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

at least the person downloading such a component is responsible for “looking over it” before using it.

I’m sorry, but since when? You absolutely should not be tasking every single user of major projects with the responsibility of doing a code review on the whole thing before installing it. There needs to be a clear distinction between “fly-by-night thing that some rando uploaded” and “library that a million people depend on”. In the traditional approach, the latter was something tat you installed with a package manner, while the former was something you went and fetch off e.g. Github or whatnot - and if you did the latter, then you were accepting that it was untrusted software. But now we have both (including the potential for “soundalikes”) installed by the same means with no distinctions made by the install method. That is not good.

Re:Who will pay for this?

By bill_mcgonigle • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Not in a Corporate Democracy.

The people who would prosecute OpenAI want to use OpenAI to maximize their power and wealth at your financial and legal expense.

Remember when they tried to extradite Gary McKinnon for twenty years for looking at a spreadsheet when he accidentally got RDP access to an unsecured NASA desktop with a simple Perl script? Intent is not relevant for prosecutors (mens rea should be an element in a Constitutional case).

The legal basis is there but the will to power is not.

Two systems of courts for different classes of people (yet again). It would be an error to call that a Justice System.

n.b. the Culture War psyop is there to try to convince you that the classes are something else.

Re:Who will pay for this?

By Samantha Wright • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

To clarify, the users were OpenAI themselves, so there is no question that they would be liable in this case.

The bots were not intentionally deployed; rather, they were being tested on how well they could complete a data recovery task (downloading a certain file from a certain server on a simulated Internet) that had been complicated by putting various obstacles in the way. Unfortunately, they found a different way to solve the problem: by getting the file from the real Internet, where it was publicly available. Part of this process involved collaborating with each other by treating the RubyGems website (which is supposed to be for polished packages) like GitHub; unlike every other package site hack in history, the exploits they uploaded weren’t meant to be downloaded by unsuspecting users. As usual the bots cheerfully ignored all the clues that they had escaped containment and were consistently justifying their actions as acceptable due to being in a sandboxed testing environment. (This is something OpenAI has pledged to focus on.)

The actual damage done to RubyGems seems to be that OpenAI is now unwittingly in possession of a substantial number of user login tokens. This certainly meets the definition of a data breach, but it’s not like the credentials are for sale on the dark web. As a website operator I’d much rather be mauled to death by this well-meaning swarm of superintelligent infants than targeted by even a single actual malicious human. In all likelihood OpenAI will just quietly pass RubyGems a sizeable donation and it’ll all blow over.

Sam Bankman-Fried, Former Crypto Billionaire, Appeals His Conviction To the US Supreme Court

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America’s highest court heard Sam Bankman-Fried’s request for a new trial on Thursday, CNN reports. But they add that “the former crypto mogul who was convicted of defrauding investors by secretly diverting billions of dollars of their money” also asked America’s high court “to throw out a court order requiring him to pay $11 billion as part of his sentence.”
Bankman-Fried was sentenced to 25 years in prison in 2024 after prosecutors said he directed billions of dollars from the crypto exchange FTX to a hedge fund he controlled called Alameda Research, where the funds were used for risky investments, political donations and his own personal benefit. The Supreme Court appeal, which was reviewed by CNN, raises a technical question about evidence that was submitted at his trial, and whether Bankman-Fried should have been permitted to demonstrate that his investments were ultimately sound and would have covered any losses by FTX customers.

He also argues that the $11 billion forfeiture violates the 8th Amendment’s prohibition on excessive fines. “Where the government pursues a theory of fraud under which it doesn’t matter whether any victims lost money, introducing evidence suggesting that people actually lost money is distracting and prejudicial,” veteran Supreme Court attorney Jeffrey Fisher told CNN. “All the more so where the truth is the victims did not lose money, and the defendant is unable to make that clear.”

The 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the arguments earlier this year.

Re:What a moron.

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Doesnt matter, Trump only cares about money, slip him a million and you get a pardon.

Re:bjoo hjoo

By DrXym • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Sam practiced “effective altruism” which is a pseudo-philosophy for being a selfish, thieving cunt - that dressing up a self-dealing with the odd charitable donation somehow serves the greater good.

But ironically effective altruism actually worked in this case. Being a selfish, thieving cunt landed him in prison and arguably the greater good was served. It needs to happen more often.

Re:What a moron.

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Informative Thread

He already tried that. https://finance.yahoo.com/mark… https://www.coindesk.com/polic… and the appealed directly: https://www.bbc.com/news/artic…

Re:bjoo hjoo

By sg_oneill • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Also, what could he possibly do out of jail that he can’t already do in jail? Clearly he’s able to talk to people, which he could do outside too. Nobody will listen to him inside or out, because he’s a convicted fraud. Also in jail he gets 3 square meals per day. Outside he would have to get a job just so he could buy the meals to sustain himself.

Not that I think he should succeed in his appeal, but as someone who’s worked at the DOJ and seen the inside of a prison multiple times (as a staffer), I can assure you being incarcerated is a miserable and demeaning experience. Zero freedom, awful food, extremely uncomfortable conditions (what you think those places are air conditioned?). Throw the non-zero chance of being stabbed to death because your neighbor, chuck the schizophrenic rapist , doesn’t like your hair color, and your absolute inability to escape unpleasant people. Oh and months on end of 23hours a day locked in a single mindmeltingly boring room. For the next 30 years!

Yeah trust me any sane man would do anything in their power to get out of that very fucking unpleasant situtation,

Re:bjoo hjoo

By Archfeld • Score: 5, Informative Thread

That is what it is supposed to be. We don’t rehabilitate in the US we PUNISH, and incidentally teach criminal techniques.

Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei Calls For AI Slowdown

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times:
The chief executive of Anthropic called for a global slowdown of artificial intelligence development in a 3,800-word essay on Saturday, just days after one of the company’s employees quit over concerns about the safety of the technology. Dario Amodei, who co-founded Anthropic to focus on securely and carefully building A.I., wrote that while he believed the technology could bring many benefits, it was advancing at too quick a pace for researchers to continue safely.

“Over the last few months, I have become convinced that fully addressing the risks requires even more prudence — not just investing in risk prevention, but pacing the rate of capabilities advancement so that risk prevention has time to keep up,” Mr. Amodei said. “We must slow the pace at which we improve the capabilities of A.I. models. Progress will still seem fast, and we must make wise use of the time we gain.” […] “Left unchecked, it could outrun our ability to understand and control these systems, and so must be pursued very carefully, if at all,” Mr. Amodei said.

[…] In his essay on Saturday, Mr. Amodei suggested actions that the industry might take to slow down the pace of development. Mr. Amodei said all A.I. labs could agree to third-party technology assessments from “embedded evaluators,” or outside specialists who can verify best safety practices across companies. He also suggested that countries with democratic governance systems coordinate to create safety standards, which could take the form of regulatory action. He added that it would probably require a global effort working with other nations, including authoritarian ones, to properly coordinate a slowdown.

Mr. Amodei stressed in his essay that he still finds A.I. capable of bringing “incredible benefits” to humanity, including potentially curing diseases and accelerating economic growth. But even so, Mr. Amodei said the risks of A.I. were too great to not proceed with extreme caution. “The measures I propose to advance the frontier at a safe pace will not be easy,” Mr. Amodei wrote. “But I believe we owe it to humanity to try.”
Amodei’s essay comes just hours after Bloomberg reported that Sam Altman told OpenAI employees the company is open to slowing the pace of AI development amid similar concerns.

Re: We are going so fast we need to slow down!

By beeboo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
This checks out with my subjective observations. I’ve been running open weights Qwen3.8 Next Flash model at home, and the only differences I see compared to Anthropic’s latest Opus is that it is slower, and doesn’t handle very long contexts comfortably (which, however, can be mitigated). Otherwise it reasons, programs, calls tools, researches materials just as well as Opus does… while doing all this LOCALLY.

Re:We are going so fast we need to slow down!

By nikkipolya • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Why? OpenAI already has AGI as Sam has been claiming. The truth is, they are burning their money so fast competing with each other, with no commensurate returns. They cannot say, “Oh well, our revenues are not going up as fast as we had anticipated and if we continue burning money at the current rate, we will go bankrupt. So we are slowing down our burn rate.” Investors will then pull out and their business then crashes. So instead they are planning for a soft landing, by telling the world we are doing it voluntarily out of concerns for humanity and blah blah blah… to avoid the impending AI crash.

The truth is, AI is bringing measly little productivity gains. It hasn’t turned out to be all that it was touted to be by the AI bros.

Good time for China to catch up and overtake I guess. Their models are 6x to 10x cheaper already. And time for some other countries to catch up too.

Re: We are going so fast we need to slow down!

By martin-boundary • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The best analogy I know is from digital media (movies, songs, ebooks…).

An AI model comprises a set of weights (lots of numbers) and an inference engine (the code that creates the tensors, loads the weights, executes the input/output loop, etc). The weights are like a movie/music/book file, and the inference engine is like a player/player/viewer software.

So in this analogy, an open weight model is like a movie MP4 file. You can play it as intended. But if you have a movie editor, you can also extract image stills, cut out some sections, move them around, rearrange the movie scenes, crop the action, etc. What you cannot do is recreate the original movie, because you don’t have the actors, the sets, the cameras and the ideas.

But Open Source an Open Weight model is not.

Re: We are going so fast we need to slow down!

By WaffleMonster • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

One word: China. Chinese AI models are already available open weight (essentially open source equivalent). Many of them were created via large scale distillation attacks against Anthropic and OpenAI.

There is no such thing as a “distillation attack”.

A slowdown deprives China of this key source of training and data for their models.

Distillation is about learning how to behave. It isn’t a source of data and doesn’t require huge amounts of resources. Nobody is going to be “deprived”.

They can then build in secret internally until the models are sufficiently advanced, and defenses against distillation significantly hardened; so they can take the lead. All the while not having to immediately show advancement over rivals to investors. I’ve never met a Silicon Valley company that decided to slow down for reasons that weren’t also aligned with business interests.

The reason for all the noise from Anthropic recently is the IPO. Flooding the zone with x-risk doomerism makes better headlines than articles about GLM-5.3 being better than Mythos at bug hunting.

Re: We are going so fast we need to slow down!

By sg_oneill • Score: 5, Informative Thread

One of the neat things about Deep Seek is they actually do something OAI and Anthropic do not;- They actually publish their methods, training code and all that.

Theres actually a lot more going on with these models than “Trained it on ChatGPT” (And its not like the chinese are alone in that. When claude first came out, it kept randomly claiming to be ChatGPT, a smoking-gun level sign of distillation, and OIA has *heavily* implied that they’ve caught XAI out multiple times trying to distill CGPT. And to be clear , amongst ML researchers, distillation is considered an entirely legitimate and normal part of AI training.). What is clever about deep seek is they’ve made pretty significant progress on getting a very big model and running it cheap and fast on more commodity software. And importantly , they’ve published how they do it in a reproducable way. They’ve also made *significant* progress on training methods that drastically lower the cost of training up a model the hard way.

So yeah, its more than just distilling western models. The chinese are actually making real progress. And..... Deepseek and Kimi and the like are actually really good models. You can do 90% of what the big american frontier models are doing with them, and on a budget, 90% is good enough.

Automattic’s Matt Mullenweg Claims He’s Back ‘In Control’

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Less than 48 hours after Automattic’s board placed Matt Mullenweg on leave, Mullenweg told employees he was back “in control” of the company and that the board was again in agreement. 404 Media cited Slack screenshots late Thursday evening where Mullenweg posted “Don’t call it a comeback” and linked to LL Cool J’s music video for "Mama Said Knock You Out.” “Mullenweg’s Slack profile picture currently shows him wearing a pirate hat and eyepatch,” the report notes. From the report:
“Happy to announce the board is back in agreement, and I’m in control of Automattic,” Mullenweg wrote in the company-wide Announcements channel on Slack. “A lot happened in the past 48 hours that we need to sort out, and I hope much of it was a misunderstanding, because I have huge respect and regard for those involved.”

Mark Davies, Automattic’s CFO who was set to act as interim CEO according to a statement from Automattic, had his Slack account deactivated as of at least Friday, sources told 404 Media and TechCrunch similarly reported. Davies, Mullenweg, and Automattic did not respond to 404 Media’s requests for comment for this story. Techcrunch reported that Mullenweg told them a blog post is forthcoming.

On Friday morning, Mullenweg published a blog post on his personal website, titled “Major Life Announcement.” In it he announced he’s buying a tugboat. “Anybody who’s founded a company and had to find good stewards knows that no one will love a thing quite like the original owner, but sometimes you can find the perfect person to carry the torch,” he wrote in the blog. He did not address the confusion surrounding his status at Automattic.
The back-and-forth follows years of legal fights, layoffs, employee departures, and controversy surrounding Mullenweg’s leadership.

Erm, what?

By JaredOfEuropa • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
My cat just took a dump in front of the litterbox. Somehow that seems slightly more relevant than this news.

Re:Erm, what?

By JaredOfEuropa • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Does Slashdot have a history of running stories about your cat?

No but maybe they should.

Mullenweg unbenches himself :o

By Mirnotoriety • Score: 3 Thread
Less than 48 hours after Automattic’s board placed CEO Matt Mullenweg on leave, he announced to employees via Slack that he is “back in control” and the board is again in agreement. He posted “Don’t call it a comeback,” linking to LL Cool J’s “Mama Said Knock You Out” video; his Slack profile currently shows him in a pirate hat and eyepatch. CFO Mark Davies (who had been set to serve as interim CEO) had his Slack account deactivated. Mullenweg later published a personal blog post titled “Major Life Announcement” about buying a tugboat, without addressing the leadership situation. The episode follows years of legal battles, layoffs, employee departures, and controversy surrounding his leadership of Automattic (the company behind WordPress.com).

The original Automattic controversy centers on a bitter public and legal clash that erupted in September 2024 between WordPress co-creator and Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg and rival hosting company WP Engine (majority-owned by private equity firm Silver Lake). At WordCamp US, Mullenweg publicly labeled WP Engine a “cancer to WordPress,” accusing it of profiting heavily from the open-source project while contributing far less than Automattic (he cited roughly 40 hours per week versus thousands from his company) and of confusing customers by using the “WP” branding. He demanded that WP Engine either pay substantial trademark royalties (reportedly around 8% of revenue) or make larger contributions, and he cut off the company’s access to key WordPress.org resources, plugins, and updates—disrupting service for many of its customers.

WP Engine responded with a lawsuit accusing Mullenweg and Automattic of extortion, defamation, abuse of power, and anti-competitive behavior, claiming he had threatened a “scorched earth nuclear approach” after failed private negotiations. The fight triggered employee buyouts (159 staff left), community backlash, a court-ordered restoration of access, ongoing litigation, and broader questions about governance, trademark control, and the sustainability of the WordPress ecosystem.

that means

By diffract • Score: 5, Funny Thread
he should change the company’s name to mannual

Re:Erm, what?

By thegarbz • Score: 4, Informative Thread

*claps*. Hahahaha, I concede that Slashdot would be a better place with more cats.

LG Responds to TV Spying Allegations

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LG is pushing back against reports that its smart TVs are “spying” on users, saying wake-word detection happens locally and that features such as Automatic Content Recognition, voice recognition, and interest-based ads are optional. But critics note that researchers found TVs keeping logs of ambient conversations, and LG’s response “did not address broader concerns about how much data it collects, who it shares it with, the potential for bad actors to exploit its features, or the misleading way in which its privacy options are presented,” reports The Verge. Here’s an excerpt from LG’s statement:
Some recent media coverage may have contributed to misconceptions about how LG smart TVs work. As an industry leader, LG believes we have a responsibility to provide customers with clear and accurate information about how our smart TVs operate and the privacy controls available to them. We would like to clarify how our smart TVs operate and explain our approach to user privacy.

LG smart TVs do not continuously record or transmit users’ conversations. Speech-to-text processing begins only if a user activates a voice interaction through a supported wake-word feature or by pressing the voice (or AI) button on the remote control. Audio used for wake-word detection is processed locally on the TV and, if no wake word is detected, audio is not converted to text, stored, or transmitted. Voice-recognition results and related technical logs may be generated as part of processing a voice command. These records are associated with specific voice interactions and do not indicate continuous recording of conversations occurring outside an active voice recognition session.

Speech-recognition results may be used to support voice-related features but are not uploaded later when the TV is offline or when connectivity is restored. Features such as Automatic Content Recognition (ACR), voice recognition, and interest-based advertising are optional. These features are not enabled by default. Users can choose to enable these features and can manage or withdraw consent through TV settings.

ACR uses audio fingerprinting technology using the TV’s internal audio processor (not a speaker) to identify content and does not collect screenshots, screen recordings, video recordings, voice recordings, or other audio recordings from the TV. Where ACR is available and enabled, ACR-related information may be used for audience segmentation and viewing or audience trend analysis. Interest-based advertising and cross-device advertising require separate user consent through the applicable advertising-related agreements. Protecting user privacy is a fundamental principle in the design and operation of LG products and services.
The statement goes on to “provide additional details on how LG smart TV features work, how information may be processed, what choices users have, and how LG continues to strengthen privacy, transparency, and security.”

LG ACR Uploaded 8.4 GB of Data in a week!

By JakFrost • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Shenanigans, I call shenanigans, I want the government to intervene because LG is full of shenanigans and perpetrating shenanigans!

I have an LG OLED 60-in TV that I have been upgrading their web OS for the last 10 years or so and I have been monitoring that transmissions and their TV routinely tries to break out of my firewall block by showing up pop-ups and updates to the new terms of service that it wants me to accept and I always close down the window and never accept any.

As I mentioned in my previous post on this story, I was curious to see what was happening with the LG TV and I monitored its transmission through my internet router and out to the internet and found that if automatic content recognition (ACR) Is agreed to in the five different sections of the terms of service. The TV will take screenshots and will upload them up to South Korean IP addresses owned by LG and other registered entities.

I watched it upload 8.4 GB of data in one week of only about 3 to 4 hours of TV watching per day. There is no way that this is just audio data using whatever codec they want to use. Even straight up uncompressed raw waveform, it is definitely taking screenshots and pictures.

PS: If this poor excuse for a forum had the ability to insert images or attach images, I would show you the data myself. Also if I try to upload an HTML PRE-structured text then I could show you the textual output but I can’t since every time I try I get blocked by the spam filter and having to fight it by changing the text is more of a pain in the ass than worth it.

Re:Their message is pretty simple

By Hadlock • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Not only did they add a “no class action lawsuit” clause, but they locked you out of all your already-downloaded smart tv apps like youtube until you did so.

Re: Their message is pretty simple

By devslash0 • Score: 5, Informative Thread

I’ve pi-holed their update domains. Not planning to update anything any time soon.

Re:No spying possible if no camera & microphon

By NewtonsLaw • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

How interesting it would be to do a drive-around with an open wifi hotspot in the car — just to see how many LG TV sets try to connect and find out what data they send.

Just saying, for a friend :)

Pull out the screwdriver

By skogs • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I have taken apart dozens of TVs to remove the wifi. It is usually quite trivial. Even in the unlikely event that the wifi logic board is not separate, the antennae are quite obvious and a quick snip will make them useless.

Scientists Create a New Form of Ice At 2,357 Degrees Celsius

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Longtime Slashdot reader fahrbot-bot shares a report from ScienceAlert:
Scientists have now demonstrated one of the weirdest forms of ice yet — under preposterous pressures up to 2.3 million atmospheres, and tremendous temperatures up to 2,630 kelvins (2,357 degrees Celsius, or 4,274 degrees Fahrenheit). […] In their new experiments, a team led by physicist Alexis Forestier of the French Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission subjected tiny samples of water to the sorts of extreme conditions expected in the interiors of ice giant planets.

They squeezed the samples between the tips of diamonds to pressures as high as 230 gigapascals, while using lasers to heat them to thousands of degrees. That’s 2.3 million times Earth’s atmospheric pressure at sea level â" the pressure at the center of Earth, for context, is around 360 gigapascals. Then, using an extremely narrow beam of synchrotron X-rays, they probed for changes in the crystal structure of the ice.

What emerged was a configuration predicted theoretically but never unambiguously observed in experiments: hexagonal close-packed, or hcp, ice. As the hcp crystal was heated, its expansion also showed a signature of superionic behavior, suggesting it entered the superionic state at around 1,700 kelvins. [Superionic ice is thought to exist deep inside Uranus and Neptune, where its unusual properties may play a role in generating the planets’ equally unusual magnetic fields.]
The findings have been published in Physical Review Letters.

And then…

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 5, Funny Thread

…there was a sound like that of a gentle closing of a portal as big as the sky, the great door of heaven being closed softly. It was a grand AH-WHOOM. I opened my eyes—and all the sea was ice-nine. The moist green earth was a blue white pearl.

âoeâ¦deep inside Uranusâ¦

By fortfive • Score: 3 Thread

I will never not be s 12 years old boy when it comes to Uranus.

It worked!

By gaiageek • Score: 3 Thread
Now if we can just keep it from exploding!

Superionic

By Viol8 • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

From what I can gather, superionic means the O2 is frozen in a lattice while the H2 moves around within in. Doesn’t this just mean the water/ice has dissociated into solid oxygen with hydrogen diffused inside?

Little Mercury May Be Shrinking Faster Than Scientists Expected

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A new study suggests Mercury may have shrunk about 30% more than scientists previously thought, losing as much as 14 miles in diameter as its interior cooled and contracted over billions of years. “That’s significant for a planet barely 3,000 miles (4,900 kilometers) across,” reports the Associated Press. From the report:
Mercury’s rough surface, continually reshaped by debris hurled from impact craters, may have hidden the true extent of the loss, according to the researchers whose findings appear in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. The news comes one week after a pair of European and Japanese spacecraft shed its cruising platform and advanced toward Mercury. Known as BepiColombo, the linked craft are expected to enter orbit around Mercury in November before splitting up for a fuller survey.

BepiColombo’s laser instrument should confirm how much Mercury is withering as a result of internal cooling, said Gaku Nishiyama, the study’s lead author who is taking part in the space mission. The shrinkage could be even more than his team is estimating based on measurements from NASA’s Messenger spacecraft in the 2010s. Only one other spacecraft has ever visited Mercury, NASA’s Mariner 10 in the 1970s.

14 miles in a few billion years?

By Viol8 • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Doesn’t seem that much to me at all given how much iron can expand and contract per degrees C as it heats and cools. 14 miles out of 3000 is 0.5% which is nothing.

Hg

By rossdee • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Of course Mercury expands and contracts with temperature - why do you think it is used in thermometers.

Little Mercury?

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Is there a “Big Mercury” lurking somewhere?