Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Amazon Blames Piracy Apps With Malware For Killing New Fire Stick Sideloading
  2. Google Pulls the Plug On Tenor API, Killing GIF Pickers Around the Web
  3. California Bill To Preserve Online Games Fails Committee Vote
  4. Apple iPhone 18 Details Leaked In Tata Data Breach
  5. Claude Science is Here, Antibiotics Designed by Text Prompt Among Applications
  6. Microsoft Previews Linux Containers That Run In Windows
  7. County With 37 Data Centers Asks Schools To ‘Conserve Electricity’
  8. South Korea To Spend $1 Trillion On More Memory Chip Production, Humanoid Robots
  9. US Supreme Court Rules Geofence Warrants Require Constitutional Privacy Protections
  10. Remembering How Microsoft’s Fake Windows Error Ended In a $280 Million Secret Settlement
  11. Ford Rehires ‘Gray Beard’ Engineers After AI Falls Short
  12. South Korea Plans To Train Entire Military As ‘Drone Warriors’
  13. Ex-Governors, Big Tech Launch Coalition To Help Workers ‘Navigate the AI Economy’
  14. IBM Says It Can Fit Nearly 100 Billion Transistors On a Chip
  15. Scientists Think Neptune and Uranus May Not Be the Ice Giants We Imagined

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Amazon Blames Piracy Apps With Malware For Killing New Fire Stick Sideloading

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Amazon says it is ending sideloading on new Fire Sticks because “apps that facilitate piracy, and other apps, can carry malware,” adding that there is “a good amount of evidence” that sideloaded apps may contain unwanted code or behavior. However, the company did not provide specific examples of Fire Stick users being harmed. Ars Technica reports:
Amazon has released two Fire Stick models that use its proprietary, Linux-based operating system, Vega OS. Previous Fire Sticks ran Fire OS, which is an Android fork based on the Android Open Source Project. One of the biggest differences between Vega OS and Fire OS is that the former doesn’t support sideloading. […] In a recent interview, Or Goren, editor-in-chief of Cord Busters, a UK-based streaming news outlet, noted the negative reaction to Vega being a closed OS. [Aidan Marcuss, VP of Fire TV, advertising, and Appstore] responded, per the publication, by saying that Vega OS was Amazon’s opportunity to “innovate and deliver more capabilities, even on the least expensive devices.”

He also said that making a platform around security and privacy was “sort of utmost in my mind.” The statement is somewhat ironic, considering Vega OS blocks custom launchers and other third-party apps that helped users avoid Amazon tracking and ads. Goren asked whether Amazon had evidence that sideloaded devices caused users harm. “Apps that facilitate piracy, and other apps, can carry malware,” Marcuss responded. Marcuss also said that there is “a good amount of evidence that apps can carry unwanted code and behavior on them when they’re sideloaded.”

Marcuss didn’t provide specific examples of Fire Stick users being hurt by sideloaded apps. There are some potential examples, though. In 2025, Amazon claimed to blacklist (which blocked the apps from being sideloaded to Fire Sticks) four video streaming apps for malicious behavior. At the time, AFTVnews reported that two of the apps served as residential proxy providers and were considered riskware, and that the other two had APK files that were flagged by virus-scanning tools. Safari and Chrome also flagged one of the apps’ official websites, the publication reported. And in 2018, a botnet that infected Android devices with cryptocurrency-mining malware appeared on some Fire Sticks, per discussion on XDA Forums. That said, Amazon also has a history of disabling apps that let users circumnavigate its home screen that Fire devices, including Fire Sticks and Fire TVs, have increasingly used for ads.
Worth noting: developers can continue sideloading apps onto Vega OS devices if they register them with Amazon.

Google Pulls the Plug On Tenor API, Killing GIF Pickers Around the Web

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Google has shut down the Tenor API, breaking GIF pickers in services that still relied on it and forcing platforms such as X to migrate elsewhere. 9to5Google notes that the library itself remains available at Tenor.com and “integrations within Google products are also still active, including Gboard, Google Messages, and more.” From the report:
The Tenor API has been rejecting new API sign-ups in January of this year, but existing integrations remained in place. This week, though, they’re shutting down, and any integrations that remain in place will stop working on July 1. The support page adds details that “any API or Ads Distribution Agreements” with Tenor will be terminated on June 30, while “current integrations” will be “fully decommissioned” as of June 30.

One of the most notable examples here is Twitter/X, which has relied on Tenor for its GIF picker for years. Twitter/X Head of Product Nikita Bier confirmed that the platform has migrated elsewhere, which is why the “recently used” section was purged, and why you might notice fewer GIF options when posting. Other platforms affected include Discord, WhatsApp, and Bluesky.

California Bill To Preserve Online Games Fails Committee Vote

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California’s Protect Our Games Act, which would require publishers to warn players before shutting down paid online games and offer refunds or continued access, failed to advance after a state Senate committee vote. Four state senators voted in favor, three voted against, and four abstained. Engadget reports:
The committee unanimously voted in favor of granting the bill reconsideration, meaning it could come back before this group of state senators. Assemblymember Chris Ward introduced the bill in February and it passed the California State Assembly 43-16 in late May. That said, the abstentions prevented the bill’s progression for now. “Not enough yeses means the bill stops here for this session,” a volunteer with the Stop Killing Games campaign (which supported the bill) noted on Reddit. “That is the loss.”

The volunteer also claimed this was the movement’s first attempt to nudge such legislation through in the U.S., and that the bill got this far without paid staff or an in-person lobbying campaign. They said the Entertainment Software Association — a trade organization of major game industry publishers — brought in a lobbyist to halt the bill’s progress (including by claiming private servers for the likes of Minecraft would be “illegal”) and that Stop Killing Games would be more prepared to counter that in the future.

“Next session, we come back with an in-person lobbying presence, the funding to do this properly and a long list of organizations and developers signed on in support,” the volunteer, u/Mr_Presidentle, wrote. “We are not limiting this to California. We intend to introduce versions of this in other state legislatures, and we are seriously looking at the federal level.”

Read the Legislative Analysis

By eepok • Score: 4, Informative Thread

From the SENATE COMMITTEE ON BUSINESS, PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billAnalysisClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1921):

The bill would create new obligations that are technically challenging, commercially impractical, and inconsistent with conclusions reached by policymakers in the United Kingdom and the European Union. Mandating patches, offline versions, community-server functionality, or refunds in all circumstances is unworkable. Requiring publishers to modify, reproduce, or distribute their games after support has ended interferes with rights protected under federal copyright law, while blanket refund requirements fail to account for the value consumers may already have received through months or years of gameplay.

That implies a bit more burden than the bill actually requires. From AB-1921 digest (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1921):

The bill would, beginning on the date an operator ceases to provide services necessary for the ordinary use of the game, require the operator to provide the purchaser with, among other things, an alternate version of, a patch or update to, or a refund for, the game, as provided, and prohibit the operator from selling, leasing, or otherwise distributing a version of the game that cannot be used by a purchaser independent of services controlled by the operator. The bill would authorize the Attorney General or a district attorney to bring a civil action for a violation of these provisions.

From the bill language:

(2) Beginning on the date a digital game operator ceases to provide services necessary for the ordinary use of the digital game, the operator shall provide the purchaser with one or more of the following:
(A) A version of the digital game that can be used by the purchaser independent of services controlled by the operator.
(B) A patch or update to the purchaser’s version of the digital game that enables its continued use independent of services controlled by the operator.
(C) A refund in an amount equal to the highest price of the digital game offered by the digital game operator within the 12 months before the digital game operator ceases providing services necessary for the ordinary use of the digital game.
(D) All necessary documentation to allow the purchaser to host a private or community server with which the purchaser could make ordinary use of the game independent of services controlled by the operator.
(E)
(i) Subject to clause (ii), a version of server software that the game may connect to in order to make ordinary use of the game independent of other ongoing services.
(ii) If the server software contains additional hardware or software requirements than what was necessary for the original game, clause (i) shall apply only if the operator has communicated that fact to the purchaser and the additional hardware or software requirements are reasonably attainable at the time services by the digital operator cease.

The committee analysis greatly exaggerates the requirements, but the objections are still at least somewhat valid. If a company (imagine a developer-owner, one-man show) stops hosting the only live server for a game because he’s taking care of an ill spouse, why should he be obligated to make significant software modifications, host those patches, or create documentation instructing how to create and host a the game via a private server. And if he doesn’t do so, then he has to refund everyone at the HIGHEST PRICE for which the game has sold in the last 12 months?

This bill was written like it was intended to stick it to EA or Blizzard, so that didn’t help.

Lastly, and certa

Apple iPhone 18 Details Leaked In Tata Data Breach

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“Another breach at Tata has leaked details about Apple’s iPhone 18, along with documents belonging to several other Tata clients,” writes Longtime Slashdot reader Ritz_Just_Ritz. “It’s becoming a recurring theme for the company.” Reuters reports:
Reuters has previously reported the Tata Electronics leak of more than 200,000 files on the dark web by World Leaks had files with purported component design papers of older iPhones and some parts of Tesla — both Tata clients. They also included documents of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co and Qualcomm, both of which make parts used in iPhones. New documents reviewed by Reuters show there are at least six files that map many components in the iPhone 18 Pro models to the specific company that supplies them. These include details of chips on its main circuit board and parts of the battery and cameras.

Apple considers this detail sensitive and is concerned about the documents being shared on the dark web as they relate to unreleased models, according to the person familiar with the matter. The data maps suppliers to iPhone parts, which Apple does not disclose in its public database of suppliers, the person added. In all, the documents detail hundreds of parts to be on the upcoming iPhone 18 Pro models. The records also show where Apple draws a part from several suppliers and where it relies on just a few, laying bare both its bargaining leverage and its vulnerabilities.
More broadly, the leak threatens Apple’s trust in Tata just as Tata is becoming central to its effort to shift iPhone production away from China. With India expected to produce roughly a quarter of the world’s iPhones in 2026, any deterioration in that relationship could complicate Apple’s diversification strategy and force tighter security controls across its suppliers.

So Tata’s success would come at China’s expense

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 3 Thread

… and China has hundreds/thousands of government-sponsored hacking teams. Nah, I’m sure there’s no connection there.

Lie with dogs, wake up with fleas.

By TigerPlish • Score: 3, Informative Thread

Every single Indian IT outfit I’ve directly worked with has been a dumpster fire. Why should Tata be any different?

That Apple relies on them is scary. That Apple’s info has been leaked thanks to Tata is no surprise.

Surely, in the meeting where this partnership was green-lit at apple someone must’ve objected, right? Right?.

Claude Science is Here, Antibiotics Designed by Text Prompt Among Applications

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Anthropic has launched Claude Science, an AI workbench that connects more than 60 scientific databases and tools through a single interface. Through the platform, Basecamp Research is making its EDEN models available for tasks such as designing antibiotic peptides and predicting vaccine targets from simple text prompts, though the results still require laboratory testing before clinical use. Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology News reports:
In a Claude Science demo, Oliver Vince, PhD, co-founder at Basecamp, uploaded a sample patient microbiology report. When given a simple natural language prompt, the platform designed peptides, predicted their efficacy, and provided a shortlist of candidates most likely to succeed in experiments in minutes. While generating human-ready antibiotics at the click of a button is still a step away, Vince said democratizing these tools is a powerful first step, particularly for researchers in regions where accelerated computing infrastructure is not readily accessible. “Most models require you to be a computational scientist,” Vince told GEN Edge. “Now, potentially any clinician in the world can chat with Claude and design an antibiotic that may work.”

Hogwash

By ByTor-2112 • Score: 3 Thread

Given how new all these systems are, even if they actually do work, there is zero chance these claims have undergone the rigorous testing needed to support them.

Microsoft Previews Linux Containers That Run In Windows

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Microsoft has released a public preview of Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) containers, adding a built-in command-line tool and API for running Linux containers directly inside Windows applications without third-party software. The update also introduces faster file access, improved networking and memory management, plus integration with Defender, Intune, and VS Code. The Register reports:
WSL has always been a handy way to run Linux workloads from Windows, and is particularly convenient for Linux developers who must comply with corporate edicts to use a Windows device. The CLI for end-to-end container workflows furthers this. Microsoft stated, “WSL containers make it easier for developers and organizations to build, test, and run containerized workloads while benefiting from the security, manageability, and integration of the Windows platform.”

Alternatively, you could run your preferred Linux distribution natively, but that might not be an option, particularly if an organization is keen on the “security, manageability, and integration of the Windows platform.” And this is an important point. WSL’s existing Microsoft Defender for Endpoint (MDE) has been updated (in private preview) to be aware of Linux container events, and there are settings in Intune for managing WSL containers. Support is also in a pre-release version of VS Code, where the Docker path in the dev container settings can be changed to wslc.

There is also a new default file system for WSL container that Microsoft claims makes Windows file access twice the speed. So, going from terribly slow to just slow? We’ll wait until general availability is reached before passing judgment. There’s a new default networking mode to improve compatibility and better memory reclaim techniques. However, none of these tweaks will be enabled by default in WSL. Microsoft wrote, “Since these changes touch mission critical paths like file system access and network, for now they are enabled just in WSL container.”

Other way around

By TWX • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I would really prefer the other way around, invoking Windows containers for the few Windows apps that I am stuck running.

Ain’t nothing like the real thing baby.

By hwstar • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Running Linux in a Windows container is dumb.

Run Linux natively or run Windows in a sandboxed Linux container.

Windows is not to be trusted.

I sense a disturbance in the Microsoft force.

Could it be fear of Linux on Microsoft’s part?

Microsoft has a lot to lose if Linux becomes more widespread, but it is loss of control of the user experience that they fear the most.

Re:WIndows is useless

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Windows has failed, the experiment is over, Windows is a joke, and no professional would be caught using it, if they want to be taken seriously.

The problem is government. OK, nobody takes government IT seriously and for good reason, but they still need to interface with the government constantly. Since every fucking governmental entity in the USA is based on Windows and IBM, we’re all forced to be able to interoperate with those. Microsoft has deliberately made their Office suite non-interoperable with false standards that require epic effort to duplicate to a working extent.

Local governments use Windows to interoperate with State govs. State govs use Windows to interoperate with the feds. Microsoft is a defense contractor and part of the panopticon (literally every whistleblower has had something to tell us about how our government uses their control over Microsoft to spy on us, they’re a known member of PRISM, etc.) so the feds will “never” stop using Windows, and trying to keep the rest of us using it too.

I put never in quotes because sure it can change… but only way too late.

Re: Ain’t nothing like the real thing baby.

By robot5x • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Microsoft hasn’t “embraced” anything, they just realized there’s higher quality software they can use for free because of the hard work of others.

Re:WIndows is useless

By Murdoch5 • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
There’s a known bug where Windows update can corrupt your UEFI. This can happen even if you block UEFI updates from Windows. The fix? You need a chip programmer to write the UEFI back onto it. Along with that bug, it can silently activate BitLocker, and not back the key up, bricking the system. This has happened at our company, multiple times, and do you think Microsoft ever rushed in to help? Not once!

County With 37 Data Centers Asks Schools To ‘Conserve Electricity’

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from 404 Media:
On June 26, the County Manager of Henrico County, Virginia, John Vithoulkas, sent an email to thousands of county employees asking them to help the local government conserve electricity. “Beginning July 1st, the rate we pay for electricity used in all Henrico County government and school facilities will increase dramatically — by 25%, increasing costs by an estimated $5 million next fiscal year. We anticipate more rate increases for electricity in the years ahead,” a copy of the email obtained by 404 Media said (emphasis his).

Henrico County is a community of more than 350,000 people in eastern Virginia just outside of Richmond. It also hosts 37 data centers and there are plans to build 17 more, including plans to convert hundreds of acres of Civil War battlefields into data centers. Thanks to its proximity to DC and vast amounts of land, Henrico County became a data center hub seemingly overnight and its services clients big and small. Meta built a data center there in 2017.

“To mitigate the impact of higher electric costs, I am asking that we, collectively, make slight adjustments to conserve electricity across our individual workspaces,” Vithoulkas wrote in the email. “Turn off your lights when leaving your workspace, including when you leave for the day. Turn off your computers/laptops at the end of each workday. If your workspace has windows, adjust the blinds to manage heat from sunlight. Unplug any appliances, chargers, or other electrical items when they are not in use. Please limit use of (or refrain altogether from using) space heaters. A typical space heater alone can cost the county from $150 to $300 per year in electricity costs.”
“Each dollar we can save by conserving electricity is another dollar the county can reinvest into staff and the services we provide our residents,” Vithoulkas email said.

Re:Not a bright idea

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The majority of those gun nuts are absolute cowards.

Obviously. Sure, there will be some (few) actual enthusiasts, and that is fine. But the rest gets a gun out of fear and that is about the worst reason possible. Realistically and statistically, they are most likely to hur themselves or get their kids hurt (due to incompetent gun storage).

Re:Color me surprised…

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Yep. Fortunately, the rest of the world has now understood that (which is one of the major accomplishments of Trump, so he has some good effects after all, even if they are not what he intended), and is preparing top do without. The transition will take some time, so it would be nice if the US does not do a total collapse, but a slow slide into the 2nd world. But even if that collapse happens, the rest of the world will be ok.

Just charge the data center owners/operators

By Targon • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Since those data centers are a big reason for the cost of electricity going up, why not just make the data centers pay enough in local taxes to cover the utility price increases for government AND all the “regular” citizens? Give the people a tax cut for the amount they would get as a rebate from charging the data centers for what they are doing to the local populace.

utilities will always stick it to the little guy

By kencurry • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Here in San Diego, where water is a chronic issue, we’ve all been asked to cut use year over year. But our water bill goes up anyway. Last justification? we don’t use enough to justify discounts, so they had to raise our rates!

Re:Color me surprised…

By Brain-Fu • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

But still far too much.

Buildings still need to be built, and its hard work. So is building and maintaining sewer lines, power lines, cell phone networks etc.

Food is still grown by human farmers. A few farmers can make a whole lot of food, but those farmers have to work hard to do it. The same goes for everything else farmed or derived from livestock.

The factories that produce all our consumer trinkets still need a lot of human operators.

The list goes on and on.

Even if we did cease all overproduction and re-organize labor to make only what we need (presumably with extra saved up for emergencies), there would be far too much human labor required for it to be accomplished without paying the laborers in proportion to their effort and the rarity of their skill set. Asking them to put up with that “for the greater good” will result in the exact same consequences we consistently see when we try this (which is to say, failure, starvation, and violence).

South Korea To Spend $1 Trillion On More Memory Chip Production, Humanoid Robots

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
South Korea’s government and top tech companies are committing $1 trillion to several flagship megaprojects that could bolster global memory chip supply, build new AI data centers and spur commercial deployment of humanoid robots by 2028. […] “We must secure the core elements of AI faster than any other country,” said South Korean President Lee Jae Myung in a televised speech on June 29, as reported by BBC News and other media outlets. “Semiconductors, physical AI, and AI data centers are the triple axis for a great leap forward.” […]

The most costly of the megaprojects involves Samsung and SK Hynix committing $585 billion to building new chip fabrication plants in the southwest provinces of South Korea, along with boosting semiconductor fab construction in the Seoul capital region, according to Reuters. The government’s goal is to double South Korea’s production of dynamic random-access memory (DRAM) within five years. […] The second flagship megaproject involves a $357 billion investment by the South Korean tech companies SK Group, GS Group, and Naver into building large-scale AI data centers in more outlying provinces, including South Chungcheong Province in the west, Gangwon Province in the east, and the North and South Jeolla Provinces in the southwest corner of South Korea.

The third flagship megaproject revolves around the South Korean government assigning a “national strategic industry” designation to physical AI — the AI systems that enable robots and self-driving vehicles to interact more autonomously with the real world. The government aims to develop a Korean “general-purpose foundation model” based on a world model to support robots within three years, according to The Chosun Daily. Hyundai Motor Company has also committed $5.8 billion to build a robot manufacturing facility and AI data center in the Saemangeum region of North Jeolla Province in the southwest, The Chosun Daily reported.

The South Korean automaker has already been helping Boston Dynamics — the US robotics company it acquired in 2021 — use the South Korean supply chain in scaling up manufacturing to produce 30,000 Atlas humanoid robots each year by 2028. Similarly, the South Korean government announced it would aim to commercialize humanoid robots in 10 major industries by 2028, along with training 10,000 human workers as “AI robotics specialists” over the next five years, Reuters reported.

oh look

By drinkypoo • Score: 3 Thread

Well, at least SOMEONE has decided to find out whether it’s a bubble or not the hard way.

US Supreme Court Rules Geofence Warrants Require Constitutional Privacy Protections

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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 (PDF) in Chatrie v United States (No. 25-112) that geofence warrants sweeping up smartphone location data constitute searches under the Fourth Amendment. The Court found that individuals have a “reasonable expectation of privacy” in such data, even when the tracking covers only a brief period or records movements in public. “An individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy in records about his cell phone’s location, and police intrude on that constitutionally protected interest when they demand the information — even though for only a limited time, and from a third-party tech company,” wrote Justice Elena Kagan. Longtime Slashdot reader schwit1 submitted the story. The Guardian reports:
The use of geofence warrants is widespread, and gives law enforcement agencies the power to compel tech companies to hand over sensitive cell phone data from people at or near crime scenes. The warrants allow police and the FBI to collect this information from individuals within the radius of a virtual “fence” during a particular timeframe. But they are not restricted to requesting data for precise targets.

The Chatrie case focuses on local police’s pursuit of an armed bank robber in Richmond, Virginia. He fled with $195,000. Law enforcement tracked Okello Chatrie down through their use of geofence warrants. Chatrie had opted in to an optional Google “location history” feature that documented his location every few minutes. He was eventually sentenced to 12 years in prison, after pleading guilty. Chatrie’s lawyers argued that this search was overly broad and violated his fourth amendment rights, which protects individuals from “unreasonable search and seizure.” Lawyers said that police’s use of geofence warrants amounted to an official “search” under the fourth amendment, and didn’t meet the constitution’s requirements for one.

The government had argued that accessing only a short amount of cellphone location information means this tactic does not count as a fourth amendment search and accordingly, should not be afforded the same privacy protections. But the judges in the majority disagreed. The judges in the majority opinion also wrote that the government’s characterization of generating location history as a voluntary choice is “meritless.” They suggested that people aren’t choosing to share private information with third parties and the government “just by doing the ordinary thing cellphone users do.” “The point of carrying smartphones is to use what is on them,” including the apps and services they provide — many of which use location data to customize a user’s experience, they said.

[…] While the majority opinion noted that police conducted a fourth amendment search by accessing Chatrie’s location history data, they noted that the court of appeals will weigh in on whether the “search was reasonable, meaning that each of its steps was properly described with particularity and found to be supported by probable cause.” Law enforcement has said they need geofence warrants to find suspects and witnesses — after reaching dead ends. The US government, for its part, has argued that people can’t have a “reasonable expectation of privacy” when they are in public and have allowed a third party company, such as Google, to collect and analyze phone location data.

alito barrett and thomas dissent

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

if you agree with this decision then thank the liberals

Re:Don’t look! Don’t look!

By TWX • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Damn, I looked. Who else would be self important enough to continuously log their location? And then stupid enough to rob a bank?

Just because someone is stupid doesn’t mean that they aren’t subject to specific protections under law.

Ernesto Miranda, for whom the Miranda Warning is named, was by accounts a terrible person. Miranda’s conviction was thrown out on those technical grounds that his confession should not have been permitted, then he was retried and convicted of the crime without his confession as evidence. Once he was released from prison he died in a bar fight.

The point of protections are that they apply to everyone, guilty or innocent, and are supposed to regulate the way that the legal system all the way from the patrolman to the attorney general behave. That doesn’t mean that criminals aren’t still criminals, but it does mean that the government has to provide proper justification for its actions against persons. If someone really did commit a crime then the government should be able to show cause, and this keeps everyone else from being scrutinized when the government has no business scrutinizing.

Re:alito barrett and thomas dissent

By kqs • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

20 years ago, which was a few years after conservatives supported the Patriot Act which greatly increased govt surveillance of US citizens? Yeah, no real changes. The folks who want the police state now are the folks who have always wanted the police state (mostly through some idiotic idea that THE OTHER will be persecuted, but never themselves).

Automated license plate readers need to be next

By blastard • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

ALPR needs to be the next warrantless tracking case before the court. It is one thing for a private company to know which vehicles enter and exit their parking structure and something completely different for government to track a vehicle as it travels throughout the day.

Re:alito barrett and thomas dissent

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Let me be the Republican translator for you:

“Activist Judge” == “Judge who gives opinion I don’t agree with”

Just like “Free and fair election” == “Election I win, otherwise it’s rigged”

Remembering How Microsoft’s Fake Windows Error Ended In a $280 Million Secret Settlement

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Slashdot reader joshuark summarizes this walk down memory lane from the tech site MakeUseOf:
Facing real competition from Digital Research’s DR DOS, Microsoft secretly embedded a sabotaging mechanism known as “AARD code” into beta versions of Windows 3.1 to prevent it from running on Digital Research’s competing DR DOS operating system.
This code triggered fake, alarming error messages to convince developers that DR DOS was unstable… Although Microsoft disabled the feature in the final retail release, the California-based firm Caldera, Inc., which had acquired DR DOS assets, sued Microsoft for anti-competitive practices.
Microsoft settled the lawsuit out of court in 2000 for $280 million, a figure that remained sealed until it was unsealed in 2009.

Re:$280 mil for something they didn’t do?

By douglasfir77 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

In U.S. law, you can be charged with criminal conspiracy even if the planned crime never actually happens. Conspiracy is considered an “inchoate” offense, meaning it is a crime before the target crime is completed.

But in this case they did commit the crime.

Re:$280 mil for something they didn’t do?

By DarkOx • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

They did it in the pre-release software knowing that the issues would get picked up by the tech press. Remember this was Windows 3.1 era. Most Windows/Dos users were not internet users.

People relied on what they read in things like PC Mag and Byte, yes even corporate IT decision makers. Microsoft knew that those sorts of publications would leap on the opportunity to test pre-release Windows, would actually try it out on a variety of PC hardware and DOS versions. These were monthly publications at most and would be unlikely to give space to a second review until after the RTM version hit store shelves.

The message would be clear, for a smooth experience on the new Windows, you better plan an upgrade to MSDOS 5. I know a lot of people jumped from MSDOS 3.x to 5.0 at the same time they bought Windows 3.1[1]. So it worked..

By the time everyone figured out Windows 3.1[1] was just fine on DR DOS, they’d already switched MSDOS or already paid to upgrade to MSDOS 5, so Digital Research was not getting the users back.

Re:Oh, right!

By AleRunner • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

The irony here is that the true evil has been missed from the story. Microsoft was deliberately trying to fund Caldera to damage Linux. This settlement was an effective way to transfer money from one company to another, avoiding taxes, avoiding scrutiny and settling an outstanding potential future Microsoft liability.

Re:2009

By haruchai • Score: 5, Informative Thread

the SCO/IBM/Novell case & the tracking done by Pamela Jones of Groklaw was big news on Slashdot for a very long time

Re:Oh, right!

By dryeo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

While your point is valid, there were differences in some things such as how IBM handled their anti-trust case compared to MS. IBM had a consent agreement with the DOJ and mostly followed it with one result the rise of MS, which at least partially due to IBM’s consent agreement got a very good deal on DOS, along with a more open philosophy from IBM. Compare to MS who immediately tried to work around their anti-trust agreement and got political resulting in Bush basically cancelling their anti-trust case.
A good example was the competing operating systems on the PC in the mid 90’s.
You had OS/2 (v2+) which during install, if another OS was on the system, installed a Boot manager, called BootManager, which upon boot allowed you to multi-boot, DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux etc. Meanwhile with MS, it monopolized your HD. Install Win9x on your multi-booting HD and at the end of the install, it would inform you that it had wiped your OS/2 install. No warning, no mention of how a minute or 2 with fdisk could return your multi-boot environment. Imagine, you test a new OS and after installing it, you are informed all your stuff is permanently gone, even though it actually was still there.
Another thing with installing Win9x was that if you had OS/2 installed, it didn’t worry about if you had a serial number to enter during install. This continued their attitude that a pirated version of Windows was better then a paid for competitors OS.
OS/2 also mostly followed standards rather then creating their own like MS.

Ford Rehires ‘Gray Beard’ Engineers After AI Falls Short

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Ford executives said they’ve hired 350 veteran engineers — some of them former employees — after AI and automated systems failed to deliver the desired quality, reports TechCrunch:
Bloomberg reports the company’s chief operating officer Kumar Galhotra told journalists that Ford had been “relying more and more on automated quality systems” with disappointing results. So the company “brought back technical specialists,” and those specialists “hunt for failure points before a part ever reaches the plant floor.”

Charles Poon, Ford’s vice president of vehicle hardware engineering, added, “Mistakenly we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product.”
The article points out that Ford is using the rehired gray beard engineers to train younger staff — and, to reprogram its AI tools.

Quitters

By bleedingobvious • Score: 5, Funny Thread

They just didn’t AI hard enough!

The real value happens when you’re 7 LLMs deep with agentic whatnots! So Simple. Just needed more AI!

Adam Becker’s book

By gtall • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Apparently the nimnods at Ford bought into the crap the Sil-Val-Bros have been selling about how AI will make everything better. If you want to know what those assholes have in store for us proles, read Adam Becker’s book, More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley’s Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity.

And it does not stop with Sil-Val, apparently more money than brains makes one stupid (i.e., Besos, Elmo, etc.). You might dismiss their fevered dreams (creating an AI of themselves so they can live forever, going to Mars, planting data center warts across America to suck up power and resources, etc.), but they have a lot of money and are intent on doing a lot of “restructuring” with it. Hint, us proles do not count.

Re:Did the manager pushing the AI loose his job?

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
The AI was an excuse for layoffs. They fired thousands of workers.

This is signaling to the current employees that the layoffs are done, to prevent them from quitting and finding other jobs.

This indirect messaging is annoying until you compare it to the Zuck/Meta direct way of saying, “We laid off low performers” immediately hurting the job search of any former Facebook employee.

History rhymes once again

By Registered Coward v2 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Years ago, when I worked for Generous Electric, some brilliant CFO decided the way to cut costs was to offer early retirement with a generous package to get rid of expensive engineers. All the senior engineers I worked with spent their days justifying why they should get a package, and ultimately they did. Six month Slater tehy were rehired when GE discovered they were the only ones that really understood how to fix the systems when they broke, since they had years of experience doing just that. The upshot was they kept all their retirement package benefits plus got those of a full time employee.

Re: Smart People

By Jeremi • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Being rich doesn’t make you stupid, but being really rich starts to isolate you in a bubble of luxury and sycophants, and eventually you start to forget what the rest of the world is like, and start making decisions based on the unstated assumption that other people don’t matter.

South Korea Plans To Train Entire Military As ‘Drone Warriors’

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“South Korea plans to train every single member of its nearly half-million-strong military to operate drones as easily as they handle personal firearms,” reports Ars Technica:
The goal is to make drones a “universal combat tool” for all troops by training them to use drones like a “second personal weapon,” said Ahn Gyu-back, South Korea’s Minister of National Defense, in a June 26 briefing reported by Reuters and other media outlets. The announcement coincides with broader plans to equip individual military units with more cheap and expendable drones for surveillance and strike missions, along with deploying more counter-drone lasers and microwave weapons.

Meanwhile, South Korea’s former drone operations command headquarters that used to have direct command authority over combat units will be reorganized to focus on collaborating with South Korean industry on developing and procuring commercial drone technology, according to The Korea Times. The South Korean defense minister specifically cited the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East as inspiring such military reforms with a focus on drone technologies… Ukraine’s use of drones and military robots as a force multiplier to offset its numerical disadvantage on the battlefield versus Russia’s larger military may carry special resonance for South Korea, given that the South Korean military’s current active-duty strength of 450,000 personnel faces a numerical disadvantage against North Korea’s active-duty military consisting of more than 1.2 million soldiers…

The defense ministry is starting out by providing 11,000 “training drones” to military personnel this year, with the goal of eventually deploying 60,000 drones across the military by 2029. An additional complication comes from the South Korean military looking to procure drones with 100 percent domestically produced components and no Chinese components due to security concerns, according to the defense minister’s comments reported by Reuters… South Korean companies are building new military attack drones, but the defense ministry may struggle to find enough commercial drones made without Chinese components to train hundreds of thousands of military conscripts, said Min-Cheol Jung, a cofounder of the Team Retriever counter-drone red team based in South Korea, in a War on the Rocks article.

Re:Good luck with that

By Tony Isaac • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Ukraine seems to have done it in just 4 years of war. Their drone components are made primarily in Turkey, Germany, and the US. I don’t see why South Korea couldn’t find a way.

The US needs to get on board too

By Tony Isaac • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Yes, I know the US already has drones. But the US military tends to have big, expensive ones. The wars of the future will rely on mass-production of small, cheap drones. The war with Iran demonstrated that, for all the billions the US spends on weapons, they can run out pretty quickly. Too many million-dollar Tomahawk Cruise missiles and not enough cheap, short-range drones.

Re:It won’t take much training

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Informative Thread

It won’t take much training to use drones.

Effectively coordinating drones in combat is on par with being a pilot or air traffic controller. It takes a great deal of training. Real enemies don’t just stand around waiting to get droned. Comms are exotic, involving terrestrial repeaters, fiber, satellites, etc. Batteries are very limited, so you have to gather intel and use it effectively because you can’t just buzz around endlessly looking for targets of opportunity. Plus, the enemy is trying to kill you, and you’re radiating RF, so unless you are properly trained in concealment and countermeasures, you die.

It’s combat. Combat requires training. Lots and lots of training.

Re: Good luck with that

By nicubunu • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

If Ukraine could, for South Korea it should be much easier, considering their electronics industry is much stronger

Re:The US needs to get on board too

By Rei • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Small drones are munitions, and need to be thought of as that. Even non-FPV drones generally have quite short lifespans - for the smallest categories, just a few missions before they’re shot down, jammed, or otherwise crash. They need to be stockpiled the same way you’d stockpile grenades or artillery shells (with the caveat that you’ll have a much faster upgrade cycle on the electronics, and need to enable that). It also means short-cycle-life secondary cells, or even primary cells, as the power supply. E.g., with current tech, lithium metal or lithium sulfur are good candidates.

Middle-range strikes are increasingly proving invaluable as well in Ukraine this year. The ability to affordably take out a fuel or ammunition truck dozens of kilometers behind the front line is key.

Ex-Governors, Big Tech Launch Coalition To Help Workers ‘Navigate the AI Economy’

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“Amid growing public anger over A.I. and a debate over how to regulate it, a group of employers, state governors and foundations has raised $500 million to try to answer some of those questions themselves,” reports the New York Times.

“Just how many jobs will AI upend?” asks the Wall Street Journal, reporting that the new coalition says it’s time to ready the U.S. workforce for a “major” disruption — no matter how large it turns out to be. The coalition “has so far raised more than $500 million — about half of its multiyear goal — from companies and nonprofit groups. It will initially work with state governments in Arkansas, Maryland, Utah and Connecticut. OpenAI and Anthropic are also involved, and academics including MIT economist David Autor sit on an advisory board.”
[The new “RAISE US” coalition] will be led by former Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, who served under former President Joe Biden, and former Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb, a Republican. Its mandate, they said, isn’t just to build retraining programs but also to reconsider decades-old policies such as unemployment insurance and act as a working lab for testing the most effective ways to transition workers to new fields. The group will explore corporate incentives for employers to hold on to workers whose jobs are disrupted by AI and prep them for new roles… The mission of the group is to “pull all the levers at once,” Raimondo said. That means teaming up with employers to find ways to help workers gain skills or new roles and joining with educators to roll out different types of training. It also plans to propose policy changes such as tweaking unemployment benefits to let displaced workers continue to get them while they, for instance, start new businesses with AI… In Maryland, the group plans to expand a service-year option in the state to help people gain exposure to such growing fields as healthcare. An effort in Arkansas will focus on supporting “an AI-powered career navigation platform.”
More from New York Times:
The organization will work primarily with governors… The theory: States generally control their community college systems, which can translate work force policy through course offerings and industry partnerships. The bulk of the budget will fund pilot programs overseen by about 15 staff members and consultants. For example, Maryland will expand a “service year” for recent high school graduates to provide experience in fields where there are shortages, such as health care. In other states, Raise Us hopes to offer “wage insurance” for workers who take lower-paying jobs rather than dropping out of the work force entirely.

The group plans to furnish technical assistance for companies that want to retain workers as A.I. changes their roles, rather than eliminating them. Microsoft, one of the companies backing the organization, said it had already found a promising model: cross-training its entry-level lawyers in different parts of the organization and equipping them with A.I. skills in order for them to be repositioned as technology evolves. “You can think of doing that with almost any job we have,” said Brad Smith, vice chair and president at Microsoft. “It creates an opportunity to transfer people from jobs that are being eliminated to jobs that are being created....”

Ms. Raimondo and her colleagues are not fans of a universal basic income, an idea that has gained popularity in Silicon Valley as an answer to job disruption. They emphasize that work provides more than just wages, and plan to focus on helping people find pathways to new jobs. But it’s unclear whether A.I. will create jobs at the rate that it will destroy them. Jack Malde studied work force policy for the Bipartisan Policy Center and is now going to work for the Windfall Trust, another A.I.-focused think tank. He said long-term income support might be necessary, even if better models for transitioning workers were found. “The truth is, there’s still a lot of uncertainty,” Mr. Malde said. “What we think is resilient now might not be resilient later. We’re not going to get everything right, so we’re going to need those strong safety-net programs.”
Long-time Slashdot reader theodp writes:
If you think you’ve seen this movie before, prior to “partnering with governors, employers, and training partners to help the American workforce make a successful transition to an AI economy” with RAISE US, Raimondo and Holcomb partnered with governors, employers and training partners to help U.S. K-12 students make a successful transition to a CS economy with the Governors for Computer Science coalition.

Group of elites puts slush a new fund together!

By oldgraybeard • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
There fixed the headline, So far they have only collected 500 million, half of their 1 billion dollar goal slush fund goal. Just elites creating very well paying busy work for themselves and their families that will have zero effect on workers.

SCAM

By DarkOx • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Its a bunch of ex pols grabbing money so they can have nice job where they don’t actually do anything.

They will write up some policy position papers (well they’ll have chat GPT do it) and make some websites where companies like MS can put their logos. The companies get pretend they are doing something for PR reasons for a few million, literally less they retaining a handful of salaries would cost them.

It is just ‘learn to code all over again’

Grifters gonna grift.

Re:employers, state governors and foundations

By nightflameauto • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

In theory, they would work together to come up with clever, well thought out, workable solutions. In practice, expect cluelessness and politically motivated policies that may help a bit but will probably just make everything worse.

The set-up sounds like a good way to grift a ton of money while stating in very technical terms that it’s a really hard problem to solve. Essentially a very expensive, “Damn, I dunno.”

Bullshit disguised as window dressing

By jenningsthecat • Score: 5, Informative Thread

…teaming up with employers to find ways to help workers gain skills or new roles and joining with educators to roll out different types of training.

Or you could just - you know - slowly deflate the AI bubble and let people continue to do the work that AI is is in the process of taking over.

Also, since the advent of AI was predicated on almost all the work done to keep society together and functioning to this point, sharing any wealth and productivity gains produced by it would seem to be a moral imperative. And no, putting on some dog-and-pony bullshit pretense of finding new roles for displaced workers is not an attempt to share the wealth. It’s just a distraction - a pretense that “we really care about society, even though we’re secretly pleased at the prospect of its demise and will do everything we can to make that happen”.

The oligarchs want the bulk of humanity to die. They see that as the only way to slow the global warming that threatens even them, as well as the only way for them to have unfettered access to the limited food that will be available when the ecosystem collapses and the AMOC reverses. These fuckers are not our friends - don’t fall for their gaslighting.

Re:employers, state governors and foundations

By kenh • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I guess this is “Learn to Code 2.0”? Learn to Prompt?

IBM Says It Can Fit Nearly 100 Billion Transistors On a Chip

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IBM has unveiled “what it says is the world’s first sub-1-nanometer chip technology,” reports ZDNet, “designed to pack nearly 100 billion transistors on a fingernail-size die, roughly doubling the density of IBM’s earlier 2-nm test chip, first shown in 2021… Today, the smallest, most powerful chips top out at about 80 billion transistors.”
At the heart of the announcement is NanoStack. This is a three-dimensional, nanosheet-based transistor design that scales vertically, or along the z-axis, by stacking and staggering CMOS devices. Unlike today’s nanosheet architectures, which IBM also pioneered and which are being adopted by leading foundries at 3 nm and 2 nm, NanoStack bonds two nanosheet transistors into a single vertical structure, with each tier optimized independently and contacted from opposite sides. Each transistor in the demonstrated structure uses three sub-5 nm-thick nanosheets, about “15 silicon atoms” across, separated by roughly 9 nm spacers. Two such devices are then bonded vertically using an ultra-thin dielectric process IBM describes as a key innovation. Because the top and bottom devices can use different channel materials, dielectrics, and metals, IBM argues NanoStack is less a single trick and more a transistor platform that can be extended through multiple generations: 7 angstrom (Å), 5 Å, 3 Å, and potentially down to 1 Å in its internal roadmap.

An angstrom, by the by, is one ten-billionth of a meter. In terms of chips, an angstrom is a tenth of a nanometer. “This is the world’s first sub-1 nanometer chip technology with a new transistor architecture,” said Jay Gambetta, Director of IBM Research and IBM Fellow, during a press briefing. “We’re not just making smaller transistors, we’re reinventing how chips are built to deliver dramatically more power and energy efficiency....” Based on internal benchmarking against its 2 nm node, the company said its new chips will deliver up to 50% higher performance at the same power, or up to 70% lower power for the same performance. Big Blue also highlighted a 40% improvement in the scaling of static random-access memory (SRAM) cell area relative to its 2 nm technology.

This is a change IBM described as a “step the industry hasn’t seen in over a decade” and one that could be particularly important for AI accelerators that live or die on on-chip memory bandwidth… According to Huiming Bu, IBM’s VP of silicon technology R&D, NanoStack is a new paradigm. It’s moving chips to scaling fully into three dimensions and giving the industry at least “another decade” of logic advances as it crosses from nanometers into angstroms… The 40% SRAM density bump could also help architects push caches and on-die memory closer to compute units, cutting data movement overhead in training and inference workloads.
IBM sees a path to production use “in as early as the next 5 years”, according to the article, and “expects NanoStack to eventually underpin CPUs, GPUs, mobile SoCs, and SRAM arrays.”

IBM’s VP of silicon technology R&D says the new innovation “can improve performance by 50% compared to the best available chip today, and at the same time can reduce power by 70%.”

Um, what?

By CEC-P • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
IBM sold off its semiconductor business in 2014 and does not produce any chips themselves of any kind at all. They don’t even make their own qubits. What they likely meant to say was that TSMC found a way to make 1nk chips or whatever ridiculous claim they’re making that almost definitely isn’t true.

Re:Amazing if it works

By silvergig • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

We’re an amazing species and everyone needs to remember that now and then.

Yes, amazing how after all the improvements we made on technology we’re still waging wars, oppress, steal, believe fantasy characters are real, are selfishly raiding and polluting our only home at the cost of other living beings.

We haven’t improved as a species, we only modernised.

SOME people are waging wars, oppressing, stealing, destroying. I don’t believe fantasy characters are real, I don’t wage wars. I am trying to not destroy the earth. I thought about modding this shitpost down, but I’d like to point out that it’s jerky comments like this that keep everyone divided. Not everyone is perfect, just like not everyone is an asshole.

Re:IBM has been making big promises

By Tailhook • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

But what has IBM actually delivered in any of these areas in recent years?

A great deal. IBM licenses, partners and consults with semiconductor manufacturers globally, and runs a thriving IP business from their huge R&D facility in Albany, NY. Samsung, Rapidus, AMD, ST, SMIC and others are all paying for IBM tech in recent deals. GlobalFoundries bought out IBM Microelectronics for IBM’s 300mm tech. IBM is among the most prolific patent filers in the world.

The real story here is this: ASML has a new machine for a new process node. ASML is obligated to perform much of their R&D in the US due to strict export and technology sharing agreements with the US government. IBM operates huge, world class R&D lab in Albany, heavily subsidized by the state and US government. The new process that this story is about is really IBM working as an R&D partner with ASML to refine the process and get it ready for commercial operation.

In a few years, when they get the yields to something plausible, ASML customers will buy the new machines, and IBM will be in the room, taking their cut for IP, consulting, support etc.

Re:Amazing if it works

By swillden • Score: 5, Informative Thread

We’re an amazing species and everyone needs to remember that now and then.

Yes, amazing how after all the improvements we made on technology we’re still waging wars, oppress, steal, believe fantasy characters are real, are selfishly raiding and polluting our only home at the cost of other living beings.

We haven’t improved as a species, we only modernised.

SOME people are waging wars, oppressing, stealing, destroying. I don’t believe fantasy characters are real, I don’t wage wars. I am trying to not destroy the earth. I thought about modding this shitpost down, but I’d like to point out that it’s jerky comments like this that keep everyone divided. Not everyone is perfect, just like not everyone is an asshole.

And it’s also worth remembering that we wage far less war than ever before, and engage in far less of the rest as well. Stephen Pinker’s “The Better Angels of Our Nature” documents this very well and I highly recommend it.

Just consider one example: Animal cruelty. Of course some people are still quite cruel to animals, but they’re the exception, and this was not historically the case. For example there are historical accounts of a common festival entertainment in medieval France, where cats were put in sacks or baskets or hung from poles and burned alive so their yowling could amuse crowds of festival-goers. Bear-baiting, bull-baiting and cockfighting were other examples. These weren’t underground, deviant activities, they were public, family events that whole communities anticipated and attended with great enjoyment.

We’re far from perfect, but we’re getting better, and not just technologically.

Re:Wow!

By bill_mcgonigle • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Interestingly enough if you count out loud your lips won’t touch in the middle until you get to a million.

Billion continues that deviation from the lower numbers.

Scientists Think Neptune and Uranus May Not Be the Ice Giants We Imagined

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The planets Neptune and Uranus may be better described as “magma-ocean giants” rather than “ice giants,” according to a team of researchers from the University of California. Gizmodo reports:
While the Voyager flyby confirmed the planets’ classification as ice giants… [a]s the least explored planets in the solar system, the two planets have never been thoroughly investigated. Therefore, scientists aren’t sure where the planets originally formed in the early solar system or the reason for their wildly chaotic magnetic fields. A long-standing hypothesis suggests that both worlds have a hydrogen/helium atmosphere that covers a vast mantle of ices, made primarily of water, ammonia, and methane, with a rocky core. The new study, however, notes that the three-layer model of an ice giant’s interior structure is not the only way to explain the properties of the two planets.

The researchers also point out that objects found in the Kuiper Belt, which are thought to preserve evidence of the material in the outer Solar System where Uranus and Neptune formed, are primarily composed of rock rather than ice. For the recent study, the researchers simulated different models for the interior processes and composition of Uranus and Neptune. The model that best fits Uranus’s and Neptune’s different properties suggests the two planets have a well-mixed magma ocean with dissolved hydrogen at the bottom and a hydrogen-dominated envelope at the top. The model suggests that at high pressures, hydrogen gas can dissolve into magma, forming a well-mixed fluid. This mixing might help explain Uranus’s and Neptune’s density, which has traditionally been interpreted as evidence for an ice-rich interior.
The article notes that the theory “could also help scientists understand the interior structure of sub-Neptune planets in the Milky Way, which have thus far remained a mystery.”

Uranus

By BladeMelbourne • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Uranus is filled with gas - I refuse to believe otherwise.

Re:Uranus

By hcs_$reboot • Score: 5, Informative Thread
The only way to know for sure is to explore Uranus thoroughly.

Re:Who cares? It’s raining diamonds on Venus

By Retired Chemist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
The price of diamonds is artificially inflated. Even gem quality stones are not that rare. The diamond industry keeps the supply low to keep the price up.

Re:Fuck Astronomers!

By PPH • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Still don’t believe in gravity. But this space-time curvature is a bitch!

Re: Rock vs Ice

By Retired Chemist • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Normal ice that occurs on earth floats. At high pressures and low temperatures, that might be expected out there, there are a large number of other allotropes that do not.