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Lenovo's 'Yoga Book' Laptop Is So Thin It Needs A Touchscreen Keyboard

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An anonymous reader writes: At IFA in Berlin, Lenovo announced the Yoga Book, a laptop that measures in at just 0.38-inches thick, making it the thinnest laptop currently available. In order for it to retain such a slim profile, the keyboard needed to be redesigned. The Yoga Book features what is called the Halo Keyboard, a touchscreen keyboard that is separated from the display and doubles as a drawing tablet. Gizmodo reports: "Officially it's called the Halo Keyboard, and if you've ever tried to quickly type on a tablet's software keyboard than you'll be familiar with the experience. Only it's a little nicer because the keyboard is separated from the display, so it doesn't suck up screen real estate, and it has a pleasantly rough texture. It's also got haptic feedback, which in the case of a touchscreen keyboard is sort of like sticking lipstick on the pig. A press of a button turns the keys off and turns the keyboard into a drawing tablet. From there, it behaves a lot like a Wacom tablet, directly reporting pen input into your chosen app. It even reads pen inputs through paper laid over the input panel." Some other specs of this 2-in-1 laptop/tablet include an Intel Atom processor, 64GB of onboard storage with support for a microSD card, 13 hours of battery life, 4G LTE, 802.11 AC Wi-Fi, front and rear cameras, and a 10.1-inch, 1080p display.

Re:And with that decision...

By Hognoxious • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Son'y be dillt, I;n usibh ome rifht niw.

Senate Committee Expected To OK Autonomous Car Bills in Michigan

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Michael Wayland, and Melissa Burden, reporting for The Detroit News: Michigan legislators could vote as early as next week on sweeping autonomous vehicle bills that would allow self-driving cars on any Michigan road without a human driver behind the wheel. The Senate's Economic Development and International Investment Committee is holding a public hearing on the bills at 10 a.m. Wednesday at Nexteer Automotive, 3900 E. Holland, in Buena Vista Township in Saginaw County. The seven-member committee is expected to send the bills to the Senate floor for a vote as early as Tuesday. If approved, the bills would need approval of the House before heading to Gov. Rick Snyder's desk. "We're very, very sure that this is going to move out of committee tomorrow," Sen. Mike Kowall, R-White Lake Township, who introduced the legislation, told The Detroit News on Tuesday. "We've aired out just about everything over the sun."

This is a first

By goose-incarnated • Score: 3 • Thread
The laws governing something are completed before we've even managed to invent it.

FDA Finds Flaws In Theranos' Zika Tests

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: This past week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration mandated testing for the Zika virus at all U.S. blood centers. That juices demand for Zika-testing technology, but one company that isn't welcome to provide it yet is Theranos. The beleaguered blood analysis startup has run afoul of the FDA, yet again, The Wall Street Journal reports (Warning: may be paywalled). Specifically, regulators found that in developing and testing a new Zika-diagnostic technology, Theranos failed to use proper patient safety protocols, the type approved by an institutional review board. Such protocols are critical in ensuring the ethical treatment of patients involved in studies, and their safety. Theranos had sought the same FDA authorization, but voluntarily withdrew its request once regulators called the startup out, this time, on the safety protocols issue.

Girl Power!

By alternative_right • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

How much of the hype behind this company centered on the fact that its leader was a young, attractive, blonde woman from Stanford?

How much actually focused on the product and the likelihood of it succeeding?

Our news today is more entertainment than fact.

Elizabeth Holmes still pretending to be a grown up

By JoeyRox • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
She's like an 8 year old playing doctor at the playground. She has unbridled enthusiasm, uses lots of big words that she overheard adults using, and pushes all the other kids who make fun of her for pretending to be something she's not.

So there's nothing wrong with the diagnostic ...

By Wrath0fb0b • Score: 3, Informative • Thread

... but the FDA is still finding something to complain about.

This is after preeminent scientists argue that bioethics needs to get out of the way of modern research.

An interesting parallel, by the way, was John Nestor. Here was a guy that intentionally (and even with good intention) drove 55MPH in the fast lane of DC traffic. He was, at best, misguided, since speed differential is more dangeous than speed and his actions were likely safety-reducing. He was also an FDA bureaucrat that never approved a drug and was ultimately fired for his "caution" that probably cost more lives and more lifesaving drugs than it ever saved.

SETI's 'Strong Signal' Came From Earth

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Yesterday, it was reported that Russia has detected a strong signal around 11 GHz coming from HD164595, a star nearly identical in mass to the Sun and located about 95 light years away from Earth. Well, long story short the signal came Earth. Ars Technica reports: "First, astronomers with the search for extraterrestrial intelligence downplayed the possibility of an alien civilization. 'There are many other plausible explanations for this claimed transmission, including terrestrial interference,' Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer with SETI, wrote. Now the Special Astrophysical Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences has concurred, releasing a statement on the detection of a radio signal at the RATAN-600 radio astronomy observatory in southern Russia. 'Subsequent processing and analysis of the signal revealed its most probable terrestrial origin,' the Russian scientists said."

That means......

By tekrat • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

*WE* are the aliens!!!!! (dramatic sting)........

Re:That means......

By aliquis • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

.. the search for intelligent life in the universe continues.

Re: Woohoo!

By telchine • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

We found intelligence on Earth!

The people at the Search for Terrestrial Intelligence Project will have to confirm this, of course. However it'll be an amazing breakthrough if we finally discover intelligent life on Earth!

No Coding in Palo Alto? City Takes On Silicon Valley Growth

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An anonymous reader writes: The birthplace of Hewlett Packard and Xerox Parc and founding place of Facebook is now considering whether to enforce a zoning regulation banning firms whose "primary business is research and development, including software coding," according to the New York Times. As the Times wrote, "To repeat: The mayor is considering enforcing a ban on coding at ground zero of Silicon Valley." Palo Alto Mayor Patrick Burt told the Times: Big tech companies are choking off the downtown. It's not healthy. Palo Alto is a software capital. It has also become a company town, with Palantir Technologies renting 20 downtown buildings, as Marisa Kendall wrote. Other notable tech firms there include Tesla, SAP, Flipboard, VMWare and many others. It has become a center for automation and cars and is home to Ford's research and development center.

Model needed

By A10Mechanic • Score: 3 • Thread
Could somebody model this in Sim City, let it run for about 20 years in sim-time, and get back to us with hard data?

Dear Palo Alto:

By Hartree • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Please do this and point all the companies that move out to Champaign, Illinois.

Massively cheaper cost of living and home to an excellent university that turns out lots of CS majors and other technical types every year.

The residents of Champaign-Urbana Illinois and surrounding towns. We'd love to have your problems..


By sabri • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Do they really think their downtown will improve by kicking all the jobs out of it?

It's time to make Silicon Valley a Silicon Desert.

Look at the City of San Francisco. They want all the tech companies to come in, giving lots of tax breaks and other incentives so they can pride themselves on having all this innovation. But then they complain about all the tech workers coming in and living in the city. Then they complain about buses picking up workers. Did you ever hear a greenie complain about people using a bus? Well, go to SF.

Palo Alto is doing the same thing now. They want all the tech money, but not the tech companies. And watch them whining when large companies decide to move out.

Just imagine Cisco, Google, Facebook and Apple deciding to move out of the area completely, with all their workers. Imagine how many mortgages will be under water, how many folks will lose their jobs, how many tax revenue these cities will have to do without.

Palo Alto should shut the F up really quick.

Re:Wow, Commiefornia!

By Crashmarik • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

That is tremendously unconstitutional.

While I appreciate the point, it's no more unconstitutional than any other zoning ordnance or land use regulation.

That said, it's a perfect demonstration of why you want government to have as little power as possible.


By wierd_w • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

What's the difference between a city and an industrial park?

One has residents, and infrastructure for residents. The other does not.

I did not read TFA, (it's traditional), but it sounds like this mayor wants to do the following:

1) light commercial zones must not be exploited for yet more satellite office buildings, and needs to stay as strip malls, gas stations, dollar general stores, et al.

2) satellite office construction projects will have to seek different zoning from light commercial, to avoid having the problems proposal 1) seeks to address.

The headline sounds sensational-- "oh noes! Coders not welcome in Palo alto!"

I read him differently. "People actually live in Palo alto. They need to be able to buy gas and groceries without having to drive all the way to San jose. Light commercial zoning currently covers both the circle k, and pallantir's new office building. There is only so much real estate in Palo alto. Only so much of that can be light commercial. Only so much of the limited light commercial property can be office buildings, if people are going to live in Palo alto, they need light commercial that actually sells products, like a circle k does. We want to make it so new office proposals do not eliminate all other forms of light commercial, no matter how much money they have to wave around."

Google Search For Android Now Finds Info Hidden Inside Apps

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An anonymous reader writes: First Google created a centralized place to search the web, and now Google has a centralized spot to search your Android phone. The company just announced a new feature for the Google App called In Apps. As its name implies, In Apps lets you search for content inside your Android apps, such as a specific song, contact, or note in Google Keep. To start, the new feature will only work with a select number of apps, including Gmail, Spotify, and YouTube. Google also has plans to add Evernote, Facebook Messenger, Glide, Google Keep, LinkedIn, and Todoist in the coming months. All app searches happen on your device itself, not Google's servers, which means you don't need an Internet connection to use the feature. It's not clear how often the app will index your content or how much of a hit it will take on your battery or device performance.

iOS 3.0 Called...

By macs4all • Score: 3 • Thread
...and it wants its Spotlight Feature back!

Only one difference: iOS doesn't use it for (yet another) Datamining source, like with Google.


By unixisc • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
Dude can't even find stuff in Hilary's emails, what does he hope to find in anyone elses?

After Breaches At Other Services, Spotify Is Resetting Users' Passwords

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And now, Spotify is asking its users to reset their passwords. The popular music streaming service is "actively resetting a number of users' passwords," Motherboard reports, adding that the company is doing this because of the data breaches at other services and websites. In an email to customers, the company said, "Don't worry! This is purely a preventative security measure. Nobody has accessed your Spotify account, and your data is secure." The move comes less than a week after Dropbox began resetting its users' passwords. Earlier today we learned that the cloud storage had been hacked, and as many as 68 million accounts are affected.


By JustOK • Score: 3 • Thread
Just changed mine. Gosh, with all these breaches, I'm up to "hunter10224"

Last Post

By archer, the • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
With all of the breaches lately, I think it's time to get rid of the less important accounts. Adios!

Samsung Delays Shipments of Galaxy Note 7 For Quality Control Testing

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Samsung unveiled its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy Note 7 earlier this month. But the company is now delaying its shipments as it conducts additional quality control testing delaying its shipments as it conducts additional quality control testing. The Guardian adds: There have been several unconfirmed local reports of users claiming that the battery of the Galaxy Note 7 battery exploded during charging. Samsung did not elaborate on what further testing was required and to where shipments of the high-priced phablet were being delayed. Quality-control problems delaying the release of the latest Samsung flagship phablet could be a major blow for the worldâ(TM)s largest smartphone manufacturer. Its recent sales saw it capture more market share and return to solid profits, but high sales of the Note 7 along with the Galaxy S7 line are required to maintain momentum in the second half of the year.

Quality control

By jratcliffe • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
"But the company is now delaying its shipments as it conducts additional quality control testing delaying its shipments as it conducts additional quality control testing." A bit of additional quality control testing might not be a terrible idea for summaries, as well.

The what?

By Yvan256 • Score: 3 • Thread

the worldâ(TM)s largest smartphone manufacturer

Is that similar to being the world's largest smartphone manufacturer?

Re:Quality control

By coastwalker • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I can say unequivocally that I would rather buy this companies products than one that shipped regardless having discovered an issue with the product. You face a choice when something like this is discovered of shipping and expecting an expensive return rate or holding back the entire production batch for screening to remove the product with the issue. A good company like Samsung will go to the effort of pissing off the marketing department and the senior executives bonuses and fix the product, a bad company will ship regardless. Reputation is something that is probably managed by the "blogging" department that will take out any customers who complain and threaten the brand publicly. Caveat emptor.

SWIFT Discloses More Cyber Thefts, Pressures Banks On Security

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Jim Finkle, reporting for Reuters: SWIFT, the global financial messaging system, on Tuesday disclosed new hacking attacks on its member banks as it pressured them to comply with security procedures instituted after February's high-profile $81 million heist at Bangladesh Bank. In a private letter to clients, SWIFT said that new cyber-theft attempts -- some of them successful -- have surfaced since June, when it last updated customers on a string of attacks discovered after the attack on the Bangladesh central bank. "Customers' environments have been compromised, and subsequent attempts (were) made to send fraudulent payment instructions," according to a copy of the letter reviewed by Reuters. "The threat is persistent, adaptive and sophisticated - and it is here to stay." The disclosure suggests that cyber thieves may have ramped up their efforts following the Bangladesh Bank heist, and that they specifically targeted banks with lax security procedures for SWIFT-enabled transfers. The Brussels-based firm, a member-owned cooperative, indicated in Tuesday's letter that some victims in the new attacks lost money, but did not say how much was taken or how many of the attempted hacks succeeded.


By fyngyrz • Score: 3 • Thread

Wait, the VICTIMS lost money? Because the BANK'S security was compromised???

WTF do you keep your money in a bank for if they're not making certain it's safe???

JFC, time to go back to buried coffee cans. It's not like you can earn interest worth a shit anymore in a bank account anyway.


By guruevi • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

The "victims" here would be the banks. Swift is a consortium of banks that facilitates international (or at least EU) bank-to-bank transfers. It's basically the routing number banks use for international transfers. From what I remember from using it, the transfer itself does not contain account numbers. If the swift network is what is compromised, the hackers could initiate fraudulent no-origin transfers.

Hackers Stole Account Details for Over 60 Million Dropbox Users

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The Dropbox hack is more severe than we expected. Motherboard has the details: Hackers have stolen over 60 million account details for online cloud storage platform Dropbox. Although the accounts were stolen during a previously disclosed breach, and Dropbox says it has already forced password resets, it was not known how many users had been affected, and only now is the true extent of the hack coming to light. Motherboard obtained a selection of files containing email addresses and hashed passwords for the Dropbox users through sources in the database trading community. In all, the four files total in at around 5GB, and contain details on 68,680,741 accounts. The data is legitimate, according to a senior Dropbox employee. Security expert Troy Hunt has corroborated on Motherboard's claims, and has updated Have I Been Pwned website where you can go and see if you're among one of the victims.

Just for the record...

By ravrazor • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Just FYI, although slashdot postings have never been extremely literate: Nobody corroborates ON something, you just corroborate something, i.e. I corroborated the claims about Dropbox. At least someone may have learned something on slashdot today.

Is this website legit?

By creimer • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
I played around with the website, confirming that very old email addresses were compromised in the last few years. But how legit is this website?

Re:Is this website legit?

By Richard_at_work • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Extremely legit, Troy Hunt goes to great lengths to ethically report breaches, hiding "sensitive" results (so you cant search someones email to see if they were an Maddison Ashley account holder, for example) as well as verifying a dataset is authentic (there are fake ones going around).

You should sign up to that site immediately, if you havent already. You get email notifications if a new breach includes your email address, which is worth it alone.

Re:Is this website legit?

By cdrudge • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Is it possible that your email account was previously used by someone else, or that someone else signed up under your account?

Also not all the data necessarily pertains to log in account data. Perhaps your email address was a backup contact address, a friend's contact, referral, etc. There's lots of ways some basic information about you could be "compromised" with an data breach even if you never had an actual account.

Acer Unveils Slim Windows 10 Notebooks, Convertible Chromebook, Curved Screen Laptop

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Ahead of this week's IFA consumer electronics trade show in Berlin, Acer has unveiled a range of notebook computers. The company has a new 13-inch Chromebook R 13 laptop, which it says can also be used as a tablet. There's a new line of Windows 10 Swift notebooks and Spin convertible laptops that are powered by Intel's just unveiled seventh generation Core processors. The Chromebook R13 sports a screen resolution of 1920x1080 pixels, and is powered by a MediaTek quad-core processor coupled with 4GB of RAM. It also houses a USB Type-C, USB 3.0, and HDMI ports. It offers as much as 12-hour of battery life. ZDNet adds: The 14-inch Spin 7 features an aluminium unibody design and is powered by an Intel Core i7 processor, with up to 8GB RAM, and 256 GB solid state disk storage. It weighs 1.2 kg (2.6 pounds) with a width of 10.98mm (0.43 inches). It also includes two USB 3.1 Type-C ports. The Spin 7 goes on sale in the US and Europe in October, with prices starting at $1,199 and 1,299 euro respectively. Heading up Acer's ultra-slim lineup is the aluminium construction, black and gold Swift 7. It features a 13.3-inch full-HD IPS display and Intel 7th generation i5 processor, with a 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM. It boasts fast wireless and dual USB 3.1 Type-C ports. Acer is promising nine hours of battery life for the device, which weighs 1.1kg (2.48 pounds) and has a height of 9.98mm (0.39 inches), making it the slimmest in the Swift series. It will be available in the US and Europe in October from $999 and 1,299 euro respectively.

But will it run linux?

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread


Ugh, gaming laptops

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread
Is there some unspoken rule about gaming laptops generally having to look like crap? That Predator 21X looks like an F-117 went to a rave and shit glowsticks everywhere. What an embarrassment.

Regarding The monster Predator 21 X

By npslider • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I thought that curved screens were more of a marketing gimmick, especially at smaller sizes, where the immersion effect is less noticeable? The article I cited below refers to large screen TV's viewed at a distance; I wonder how this rule applies to smaller screens viewed up close?

"Our experience to date is that the effectiveness of curved screens is directly proportional to their size. With all of the 55-inch models we’ve tested the curve’s benefits felt pretty minimal, while some of the problems – particularly the sweet spot issues – were more noticeable. With the 65-inch models it's easier to appreciate the picture benefits while feeling less aggrieved by the negatives (except for the reflections one). Bigger screens support more viewers more easily too. Despite enjoying the 65-inch models, though, our feeling is that the curve will only potentially feel of significant benefit at truly colossal sizes of 70 inches or more."

Has anyone used a smaller curved screen? Does it improve the viewing experience?

$249 Spin 1: Thank you, Moore's Law!

By theodp • Score: 3 • Thread

1983: March - IBM announces the IBM PC XT, with a 10 MB hard drive, 128KB RAM and a 360KB floppy drive. It costs US$5000.

Curved screen?

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread


Transmission Malware On Mac, Strike 2

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New reader puenktli writes: Just five months after Transmission was infected with the first 'ransomware' ever found on the Mac, the popular BitTorrent client is again at the center of newly uncovered OS X malware. Researchers at security website We Live Security have discovered the malware, called OSX/Keydnap, was spread through a recompiled version of Transmission temporarily distributed through the client's official website. OSX/Keydnap executes itself in a similar manner as the previous Transmission ransomware KeRanger, by adding a malicious block of code to the main function of the app, according to the researchers. Likewise, they said a legitimate code signing key was used to sign the malicious Transmission app, different from the legitimate Transmission certificate, but still signed by Apple and thereby able to bypass Gatekeeper on OS X.

Re:Cert signed by central private authority = croc

By Anubis IV • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

...since all it confirms is that the malicious author has managed to bypass the extremely primitive identity verification methods.

Unlikely. A far more likely scenario is that the build machine itself was compromised.

We first started hearing widespread reports of fake versions of XCode making the rounds in China last year (apparently because download speeds in China from Apple's servers are atrocious, so people host local mirrors of XCode to help each other out), which were configured to inject malware at compilation into any software being built. At that point, the developer would then sign their app like normal and distribute it through their official channels, which is exactly what we saw happen here.

I mean, at the end of the day, do you really think it's more likely that someone managed to crack the entire signing mechanism and decided that their first target should be a relative small-fry whose website they'd have to take the time to personally hack in order to distribute the software via official channels, or is it instead possibly just a bit more likely that a known vector that's been in the wild was used to compromise this particular dev's system somewhere upstream?

Re: Cert signed by central private authority = cr

By Rosyna • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

The Transmission app uses the Sparkle Software Update mechanism. Sparkle uses certificate pinning to prevent exactly this type of attack. The auto-updater will not permit an application to be updated if the update is signed by a different entity.

So this malware only affected people that manually downloaded the app from the Transmission website.

The Slashdot Interview With Ruby on Rails Creator David Heinemeier Hansson

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You asked, he answered!

Ruby on Rails Creator and founder/CTO of Basecamp, David Heinemeier Hansson has responded to questions submitted by Slashdot readers. Read on for his answers.

Too bad bash on Ubuntu on Windows wasn't out yet..

By Mal-2 • Score: 3 • Thread

It's really too bad the questions had to be submitted before the advent of (release) bash on Ubuntu on Windows. Otherwise we could have asked how to get maximum Inception value, as RoR is good for two layers with a single effort.

Ruby on Rails on bash on Ubuntu on Windows on Parallels on OS X?

Conflating language and Framework

By mpol • Score: 4 • Thread

And I respect PHP very much for that focus. But as soon as you go beyond the very basics, I think the learning curve there is steeper. Rails simply has so many answers to so many questions, and it introduces those answers in a pretty progressive way. You don't even have to learn what SQL injection is if you're using the preferred query methods. You SHOULD learn what that is, but you don't have to to get started. If you don't know what SQL injection is and you use the MySQL db query functions with a string-interpolated query in PHP, well, you're going to be in trouble.

Probably he knows the difference :). But he seems to just try to make a point where there is none. He is making a wrong comparison. Ruby on Rails is a framework and should have classes/methods to handle SQL queries, just like any proper framework. Ruby and PHP are languages and shouldn't do that. If you use a framework in PHP, or even a CMS as WordPress or Drupal, you have classes/methods for doing SQL queries.

Fedora 25 Alpha Linux Distro Now Available

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An anonymous reader writes: Today, Fedora 25 Alpha sees a release. While the pre-release distribution is not ready for end users, it does give testers an early start at poking around.
Keep in mind what an Alpha release is folks -- this is pre-Beta. In other words, it is littered with bugs, and you should definitely not run it on a production machine. There are already some show-stopping known issues -- a couple are related to dual-booting with Windows (scary). One bug can destroy OS X data when dual-booting on a Mac!


By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Isn't that architecture dead by now?

I tried it...

By 110010001000 • Score: 3 • Thread wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

This is news?

By unixisc • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
How is a distro being in the alpha stage of its development news? It would be news when it was close to release, or actually released. Until then, people would be happily using Fedora 24. This is not like a new OS that's surfacing in the market

Re:This is news?

By paulbsch • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
I think the news is what's not mentioned in the headline or summary. In this release, Wayland is now preferred over I believe that will make F25 the first major distro release to make the switch?

EmDrive: NASA Eagleworks' Peer-Reviwed Paper Is On Its Way

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from International Business Times UK: An independent scientist has confirmed that the paper by scientists at the NASA Eagleworks Laboratories on achieving thrust using highly controversial space propulsion technology EmDrive has passed peer review, and will soon be published by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA). Dr Jose Rodal posted on the NASA Spaceflight forum -- in a now-deleted comment -- that the new paper will be entitled "Measurement of Impulsive Thrust from a Closed Radio Frequency Cavity in Vacuum" and is authored by "Harold White, Paul March, Lawrence, Vera, Sylvester, Brady and Bailey." Rodal also revealed that the paper will be published in the AIAA Journal of Propulsion and Power, a prominent journal published by the AIAA, which is one of the world's largest technical societies dedicated to aerospace innovations. Although Eagleworks engineer Paul March has posted several updates on the ongoing research to the NASA Spaceflight forum showing that repeated tests conducted on the EmDrive in a vacuum successfully yielded thrust results that could not be explained by external interference, those in the international scientific community who doubt the feasibility of the technology have long believed real results of thrust by Eagleworks would never see the light of day.

Re: Lighten up

By dgatwood • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

No, there are no "loopholes" in the Physical Laws.

There are a lot of loopholes in the physical laws. Fifty years ago, if you had told someone that you could take a ceramic insulator and turn it into a near-zero-resistance conductor by cooling it to near absolute zero, they would have assumed you were wrong—the laws of electricity as known at the time just didn't allow for that. And if you told them that you could float magnets on top of such a superconductor, they'd have hauled you off to a sanitarium.

A hundred years ago, if you could have somehow launched GPS satellites, everyone would think that the clocks were broken, because the time would keep drifting due to relativistic effects, and that concept didn't exist yet.

We're constantly learning new exceptions to the established rules, and we have been doing so throughout all of our planet's history, from the moment we discovered that you could bang two rocks together and start a fire. It is thus utterly ridiculous to assume that at this particular point in history, we magically haver reached the pinnacle of human understanding.

Now don't get me wrong here; this supposed "EM drive" is probably bogus. There's probably some particle emission caused by electrical charge propagation through the material or some other similar curiosity. But it isn't impossible that this is something new that we don't know about—just very, very unlikely. And there's also a very slight possibility that we might learn something new about the physics of matter or gravity or who-knows-what-else from studying this, so either way, it is fascinating, and should not just be dismissed as a hoax out of hand until we know why it is happening and whether the answer to that question tells us something new that we didn't know before.

Re:Prepare to be

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

"Dream big" only works if you also "work hard" and are realistic about what is possible given the KNOWN LAWS of Physics.

Dreaming bit within the known laws stops progress dead in it's tracks. The laws of physics were derived from experimentation, observation and creation. People were getting shocks from electricity over 3000 years before Cavendish electrocuted himself for science and 40 years before current was properly described as a physical property. None of this gets explained by known laws.

While on the topic of electricity Benjamin Franklin published notes on the paradox that was the Leyden jar, something which was built but not explainable by physics. Here we are a few hundred years later and I'm communicating to you by typing on a keyboard sending 1s and 0s to you stored somewhere else on the planet only for text to come up on your screen.

You think too small. Known laws of physics get in the way of bigger thinking such as sending power wirelessly (thought impossible, along with everything else we take for granted now).

Re:Prepare to be

By saloomy • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Why not? If this technology works, it changes the game in space travel. It seems there is a large requirement (today) for thrust vs energy, but with experimentation, theory, and improvements in understanding this may become viable for flying car type energy/thrust requirements. It really surprises me whenever I read a story about the EmDrive. It makes hypocrites of all the "scientists" and our general application of science, in general.

Skeptics claim:
"It violates Newton's law"
It is a bunch of tomfoolery
Its a measuring error

Horseshit. Any real scientist knows: Nullis in verba, or question everything. We thought the world was flat, we thought the world was at the center, then the sun, now... there is no center. We experiment, we learn, we work out what we think is right is right, or what we thought was right is wrong. The universe is mysterious, and full of wonder. Offer no ridicule until you have proven someone wrong, conclusively! Otherwise, your no better than a religious zealot. Science itself deserve better.

Re:On its way

By Bruce Perens • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Yes, but given the number of folks who set out to disprove and ended up with thrust they can't explain, we're far from ready to say "no".

If you live in a Newtonian world, you're not going to accept that this could ever work. If you admit to the possibility that momentum could be quantized, you can't rule it out yet.

Re:Prepare to be

By randomlygeneratename • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
I think it's a prevailing attitude on Slashdot -- look at the comments of any article that has a positive outlook on future technology. But it's not just slashdot, it's true in most educated circles too -- general skepticism and cynicism. Most people's BS filters are turned to 100% -- which keeps them safe against the crazies, but saps the imagination. Even at work, doing natural language processing research, I find it a little depressing that the common view among my colleagues is essentially "human level intelligence will never happen".