Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Apple Sues OpenAI, Accusing It of Stealing Company Secrets
  2. Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used AI To Cheat
  3. Russia Hacks Doorbell Cameras To Spy On NATO Bases
  4. Feds Demand Autonomous Vehicle Companies Stop Interfering With First Responders
  5. NYC To Become First In US To Ban Deceptive Subscription Practices
  6. Disable Autoplay and Infinite Scroll Or Risk Massive Fines, EU Tells Meta
  7. Disney+ Explores a Free Tier As YouTube Draws TV Viewers
  8. OpenAI to Retire ChatGPT Atlas Browser Less Than a Year After Launch
  9. SAP Makes It Easier For Customers To Shop For Legacy Product Support, Ending EU Antitrust Probe
  10. OpenAI’s CEO of AGI Deployment, Fidji Simo, Is Stepping Down
  11. Microsoft to Retire OWA Light Client In Exchange Server
  12. Nobel-Winning US Chemist Will Move to China to Lead AI Institute
  13. Humanoid Robots Controlled By Surgeons Did World-First Operation On Live Pigs
  14. Lawmakers Probe Growing Use of Chinese AI Models In US Companies
  15. Google Search Hits All-Time Usage Record

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Apple Sues OpenAI, Accusing It of Stealing Company Secrets

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times:
Apple on Friday accused OpenAI of stealing secrets about products still in development, setting up a legal face-off between two of the world’s biggest tech companies. In a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, the consumer tech giant said that OpenAI, a leader in artificial intelligence that has a new hardware business, had asked job candidates from Apple to share details about secret projects and to bring device components and prototypes to their interviews. Apple also accused an OpenAI employee of downloading internal documents from a laptop owned by the iPhone maker. OpenAI used the confidential information to approach Apple’s manufacturing partners, including asking one partner to demonstrate Apple’s technique for finishing metal on its devices, the lawsuit says. Apple sent a letter to OpenAI in February to raise concerns that confidential information could be “making its way to OpenAI’s business improperly,” according to the suit. OpenAI did not respond, Apple said. “OpenAI’s nascent hardware business now rests on the shakiest of foundations, rotten to its core by its illegal reliance on misappropriated trade secrets,” Apple wrote in its lawsuit.

[…] In its lawsuit Friday, Apple accused Tang Tan, OpenAI’s chief hardware officer and a former Apple executive, of coaching his hires from Apple on how to evade Apple’s security processes for departing employees. Apple accused another former employee, Chang Liu, of using a former colleague’s Apple-owned laptop to access and download technical documents while working at OpenAI. Mr. Liu told that Apple employee what information about unannounced products she should study before job interviews, Apple said. Mr. Liu also planned to access internal documents through an Apple-owned laptop that he didn’t return when he left the company, according to the lawsuit. OpenAI had misled the manufacturing company it approached to learn about the metal finishing technique to believe it had Apple’s permission to view it, according to the lawsuit. Apple is seeking an injunction that would prevent OpenAI from possessing, using or sharing Apple’s trade secrets, as well as an order requiring OpenAI to return Apple’s intellectual property.

Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used AI To Cheat

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Longtime Slashdot reader schwit1 shares a report from Inside Higher Ed:
For the first time since he started teaching Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory nearly two decades ago, Brown University economics professor Roberto Serrano gave his students a take-home midterm this spring. Quite a few students had expressed anxiety about being in a classroom after a gunman killed two students and injured nine in a December mass shooting at Brown, and so “it was appropriate,” he said, to allow students to take their exams at home. But by the end of the semester, Serrano regretted the decision. Dozens of students in the class likely used artificial intelligence to cheat and earn perfect or near-perfect scores on their midterm, he said. Serrano in turn made the final exam in-person, which led more than a dozen students to drop the course and even more to fail it.

Administrators’ response to the widespread cheating event has been “meek,” he said, and the incident has raised questions about how universities can — and should — respond to AI-enabled cheating at scale. “I am not declaring [the midterm] void for now. I am going to give the class a chance to prove me wrong,” he wrote. “That is, if the distribution of the final exam is roughly similar to the distribution of the midterm, I will count the midterm. Otherwise, which is of course what I expect to happen, I will declare the midterm void and reweigh the final accordingly.” Serrano heard crickets from his students, but 18 of them subsequently dropped the class. Nine students remained enrolled but did not take the final exam. And Serrano said the results proved him right; three students earned a zero, and the average score on the final was 48.6 percent — by far a historic low, he said. Previously, the average final exam score had never dropped below 65 percent. Only a few students scored similarly to how they did on the midterm.

Cheating is too easy

By Ksevio • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

First of all, props to student 22 who clearly didn’t cheat on the midterm and managed to do better on the final, but it looks like about 85 out of 89 students cheated.

With cheating being so easy, professors really need to be having in-person tests to see if the students are learning anything. I wonder if giving students the exact same test out of class and then in class would show who cheated more clearly

Re:“Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory”

By sound+vision • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Even if you hate welfare, and want to kill everyone on it - studying the economics of it will help you do that.

Also, this is not about a Brown professor, it’s about Brown students.

Part of a bigger crisis in education

By thecombatwombat • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

There is a fundamental crisis going on in colleges that has nothing to do with AI.

The professor wants a classroom full of students who actually care about what he has to teach. The administration wants those students, their paying customers, to keep paying.

Universities have had this crisis brewing for a long time:

We made a college degree necessary for most desirable jobs. Universities loved this, college degrees grew at a massive rate, the cost of them grew even more.

Then all at once they realize that hey, the students who are there, don’t actually *want* to be there. They just want to buy their diplomas and get out, and act accordingly.

They can’t have it both ways, this tension has been a thing for a long time.

Something fundamental has to give.

Re:The death of homework

By Local ID10T • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Homework is for practice. It is for students to exercise the knowledge they have gained. To fix it in their minds as more than a passing thought. To enhance retention of the materiel. Listen to the lecture, read the book, practice the exercise… retain the knowledge.

There is no point to grading homework. Except as a feedback loop for the students. So that they know what they thought they understood -but did not.

In class time is for lectures, discussions, and Q&A. Don’t waste the interactive time doing things that can be done solo.

Re:“Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory”

By quenda • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I must admit, the title of the course sounds a bit political, but I thought best to look it up before leaping wildly to conclusions:

While the words “welfare” and “social choice” might sound like political buzzwords to a layperson, in academia they refer to highly formal, mathematical subfields of standard microeconomic theory.
Taught for decades by Professor Roberto Serrano, it is known as a rigorous, proof-heavy class rather than a political forum. If you recently heard about the class in the news, it is likely due to an academic integrity controversy involving a take-home exam and suspected student use of generative AI, rather than anything related to politics.

Russia Hacks Doorbell Cameras To Spy On NATO Bases

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Dutch intelligence agencies say Russian hackers have been hijacking unsecured internet-connected cameras, including likely doorbell and security cameras, to spy on NATO military bases and transport routes used to move weapons to Ukraine. “Organisations with IP [internet protocol] cameras on these routes have now been warned so that they could take action,” said the AIVD domestic security and MIVD military intelligence agencies. Targeted NATO member states include the Netherlands and Ukraine. The Telegraph reports:
While the intelligence agencies did not specify the type of cameras hacked, the doorbell systems are frequently used by people to monitor their property from mobile phones. Hackers then use readily available apps to scan for devices that might be accessible. The Dutch investigation found that many of the cameras were unsecured, and “often have standard passwords, outdated firmware and standard configurations.” They said: “When the IP camera is identified, the malicious party can attempt to access the IP camera via the internet. This is often relatively easy, because many IP cameras connected to the internet are insufficiently secure.”

[…] The practice is now considered easier and cheaper than using drones and satellites to gather intelligence. It also aids operational surprise because most camera owners are blissfully unaware their devices have been penetrated by hackers. Ground-based cameras offer a unique perspective on the terrain, which isn’t the case with conventional aerial-based spy kit.

Fact check

By r1348 • Score: 3 Thread

Targeted NATO member states include the Netherlands and Ukraine.

Ukraine is not a NATO member state. If you know anything about the conflict, you’d know that’s kinda the whole point.

Seriously, who writes these summaries?

Re:Oh no the Russians!

By Registered Coward v2 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

If it is possible to walk into cameras on NATO bases like that, honestly they deserve it. This shit should be locked behind seven layers of impossible.

Per TFA,it’s civilian cameras on transit routes, so what it sounds like is they look for cameras along major roads and hack into them to follow shipments. It would not surprise me if they were trying to hack phones/watches/fitness bands or anything that can track individual then look at data to try to find the drivers by correlating the data with traffic data.

Feds Demand Autonomous Vehicle Companies Stop Interfering With First Responders

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NHTSA is ordering autonomous vehicle developers to explain by the end of the month how they will stop driverless cars from interfering with police, firefighters, and paramedics. TechCrunch reports:
[NHTSA Administrator Jonathan Morrison] noted in the letter (PDF) that the agency has “identified a clear pattern of driverless AVs interfering with law enforcement and other first responders,” citing instances in which these vehicles drove into active emergency scenes, blocked the paths of ambulances and firefighters, or failed to recognize and respond to basic safety conditions like flashing lights, flares, smoke, fire, and traffic cones. The agency has demanded that AV developers present their “solutions” to this problem by the end of the month.

“Let me be clear: the inability to detect and appropriately respond to such situations represents a functional insufficiency,” Morrison’s letter reads. “Emergency scenes are not rare or extreme ‘edge cases.’ As such, NHTSA is today issuing a call to action for AV developers and operators to immediately focus their resources on fixing this issue.” The agency doesn’t explicitly call out any particular company in the letter; however, the details suggest it is directed at robotaxi operators like Waymo.

[…] The agency’s letter to AV developers doesn’t say what the consequences would be if the request is ignored. Nor does it outline what the acceptable solutions would be. But the agency does imply it would hold companies accountable, just as it does human drivers who impede law enforcement. “Every second matters when law enforcement officers, firefighters, or paramedics are answering a call because lives are on the line,” the letter states. “That is why human drivers who impede these operations are subject to fines and even jail time.”

The agency also noted in a press release accompanying the letter that it’s making progress on updating Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) requirements, which govern vehicle design and equipment requirements. These proposed changes could help autonomous vehicle companies like Tesla and Zoox, which are developing vehicles without steering wheels, pedals, or other features required on human-driven cars. The agency has already proposed rules that would eliminate the need for windshield wipers, sun visors, defogging systems, and tire placards. The agency released a new 2026 Regulatory Plan and Unified Agenda last week, outlining its proposals.

Re: Who is liable in an accident?

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The company is the operator.

We can hold corporations responsible, we just usually don’t

Re:Good luck with that

By PsychoSlashDot • Score: 4, Informative Thread

So the problem with these things is they Don’t really work. Google admitted that at a congressional hearing.

I’m going to go ahead and ask what - specifically - Google “admitted” in said hearing. I doubt it’s “don’t really work” but leave open the possibility that’s what was admitted, so please provide quotes.

They’re basically remote controlled cars with really really fancy driver assist features.

Really? It’s my understanding that they’re autonomous the vast majority of the time, remote-controlled in very rare circumstances, and driver-assist never. Passengers in these cars aren’t permitted to manually drive them, so driver-assist isn’t a thing. I grant that I may be misinformed, but again, I invite you to provide details for your assertion.

Frighteningly

Well, yes. The media - be it traditional or social - is rather good at that, regardless of objective statistics.

it appears that they are sometimes piloted from the Philippines.

That feels like an odd thing to be frightened of. It’s not Mars where there are minutes of latency. Why would the Philippines - specifically - be any more (or less) concerning than if the drivers were in a building a kilometer away from the vehicle?

Publicly Google will tell you that’s not true but that’s not what they told Congress when they were under oath…

That’s not been a secret for ages now. In complicated situations the autonomous system can’t cope with, it can call in human assistance. I’ve not heard that’s a common or nominal mode of operation, but maybe I’m lacking in some facts. Which - unsurprisingly - you are invited to provide.

The obvious problem with all this is that they’re going to have problems with ambulances and such.

That’s the obvious problem? I’d’ve thought there are plenty, but fine. We’ve all know there are a lot of refinements and adjustments needed, both for the car operators and the rest of us outside of them.

And that’s the waymo ones that are the best and most functional. The ones from Tesla which are so bad even Tesla doesn’t really want them on the roads are a disaster waiting to happen. It does however keep their stock price up…

Sure.

Frankly these things shouldn’t be on the road with us but it’s not like we have any say in anything anymore

Okay, I’m no fan of these things and wouldn’t volunteer to ride in one but really, this is exaggeration. The actual safety records have shown they’re marginally better than human drivers. Sure, there are outliers, exceptions and downright frustrating things like what this article is about but as far as I’ve had any information, they’re just that… outliers. Human drivers are the ones I really worry about, personally.

Priorities

By mccalli • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Years back I was interviewing people for a coding position. We went through the standard tech stuff and then did a bit of project to see how they thought. We said (this is circa 2009’ish I think) - imagine you’re on a team creating a new phone. You don’t have time to test all the functions, so which would be your top two functions to ensure working?

All a bit Kobayashi Maru - obviously you can’t release a phone testing only two functions, but we wanted to see what they’d prioritise. The very best answer we received was this one: “I would make sure it has the ability to call emergency services.” Their thinking was that this was likely the most critical feature of a phone for both a user, and also for the manufacturer to avoid being sued. Absolutely great answer.

And yet here we are, with the post above. Taking the thinking of this interviewee - the ability to work with emergency services is important for general society, for the user of the vehicle (so they don’t get in trouble) and for the manufacture of the vehicle (so they don’t get fined/sued/both). Absolutely critical.

Re:Good luck with that

By dgatwood • Score: 4, Informative Thread

So the problem with these things is they Don’t really work. Google admitted that at a congressional hearing.

Citation needed.

They’re basically remote controlled cars with really really fancy driver assist features. Frighteningly it appears that they are sometimes piloted from the Philippines. Publicly Google will tell you that’s not true but that’s not what they told Congress when they were under oath…

Google doesn’t even have self-driving cars. Maybe you’re thinking about Waymo (which is part of Alphabet, not Google).

Regardless, no, to the best of my understanding, they cannot be driven remotely at all, at least by any normal person’s definition of the word “drive”. When intervention is required, the remote operators get a dump of camera images to review, and then they draw a proposed path on a map. The car then tries to follow it, and aborts if doing so would result in hitting anything. This may have to be done more than once to get it out of the problem situation. When the vehicle says that it is comfortable proceeding on its own, the remote operator tells it to go ahead, and it takes over path planning again.

At no point is any remote operator in direct control over the vehicle. All they can do is propose an alternative path when the vehicle’s path planner gets stuck trying to figure out how to safely extricate itself from some situation. At all times, the vehicle’s software is the driver. The remote operator is just hinting that it should go to the left of safety cone A, to the right of cone B, etc. (or whatever the situation happens to be). This is why it takes so long to extricate a stuck car. If there were an actual remote driver that could take real-time control, it would take just a few seconds.

The obvious problem with all this is that they’re going to have problems with ambulances and such.

From what I’ve read, when a Waymo car sees emergency lights, it stops driving and gets out of the way. I do see one (presumably) recent video where a Waymo stopped in a place that actually delayed an ambulance from getting past it on a narrow street, so unless that’s an old video, I’m guessing there’s still a bit more tweaking required in terms of recognizing whether the right choice is to stop or to move out of the way. I’d imagine someone is already working on making sure that particular edge case doesn’t happen again.

What I’m not seeing is evidence of some widespread problem with autonomous vehicles in general. There’s an edge case here or an edge case there where something didn’t work as expected. And they’ll complain about it, and the AV company in question will figure out why the car did the wrong thing, update their training sets, and that specific scenario won’t happen again.

(This, of course, ignores Tesla, because the emergency vehicle drivers can’t tell if the vehicle is being driven by the car or by a human, making any sort of reporting problematic at best.)

So realistically, I suspect that the answer to a vague demand from a government agency demanding to know what AV companies will do to prevent bad interactions with emergency vehicles will always be “exactly what we’re already doing”, because apart from coming up with new simulated situations to test (which they’re always doing), there’s really nothing they can do to prevent the car from behaving the wrong way in some vague unspecified future situation that nobody has thought of yet. And the answer to what they’re doing to prevent a specific situation will usually be “We’ve already updated our training sets and that won’t happen again.”

To that end, I’m really not sure what they’re trying to accomplish with sending a letter like that. Seems more like political posturing than any actual attempt at solving a problem. *shrugs*

Re:Good luck with that

By XXongo • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

You got Google you can look up what I wrote and confirm it.

In my experience, when a person asks for a citation to some purported fact somebody posted and the guy posting it responds “Google it”, this almost always means “I don’t have a citation”, which usually translates “I heard it on the internet somewhere, not sure where.”

Oddly, I was prepared to believe you right up to the moment you posted this.

NYC To Become First In US To Ban Deceptive Subscription Practices

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On October 1st, New York City will become the first U.S. city to ban deceptive subscription practices, requiring companies to offer simple cancellation options or face fines of $525 per user subscription, back fees, and additional penalties. The Mamdani administration is also proposing a junk-fee rule requiring sellers, landlords, hotels, and other businesses to “advertise the total price for any good or service, including all mandatory additional charges and fees, up front.” The Guardian reports:
“People shouldn’t have to wait on hold for half an hour or send a certified letter or show up to a store in person in order to cancel” a subscription, said Samuel AA Levine, the city’s commissioner of consumer and worker protection, in an interview. The new measures are expected to be announced in a press conference on Friday morning.

The proposed fee rule could have an especially wide impact, sending ripples through New York’s expensive housing market, where about 70% of residents rent. Apartment renters in the US face a rising tide of add-on fees such as “boiler management” and “lifestyle” charges from management companies, which make true rental costs hundreds of dollars higher than the price stated on real-estate company websites.

If the proposed renters rule passes after public comment and hearing, any mandatory fees, including annual ones, would need to be included in the stated monthly rental price, Levine said. The current situation creates “a scenario where rather than competing on price, companies are competing on their ability to hide the true price. That’s the worst kind of incentive” — and one that deeply distorts the market, Levine said.

Re:Didn’t The FTC Do This Two years ago?

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Republicans gutted all authority from federal agencies because it made the mega corps unhappy.

Interesting

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

So it turns out politicians can pass legislation that helps people.

It’s too bad…

By PhantomHarlock • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

…that it’s just New York City. Hopefully the idea will spread.

Laissez faire capitalism is great if everyone is honest. But in this reality there are a lot of incredibly dishonest people who will do anything for a buck. A modicum of base regulation is desirable to keep consumers from getting swindled at every turn. I applaud efforts like these.

Sounds good

By cosmicl • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
so why just NYC? How about for all of the US? Oh, wait. elections have consequences.

Re:Didn’t The FTC Do This Two years ago?

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Also to be extra clear the 8th circuit struck it down for procedure, the FTC was supposed to have done a certain type of economic impact analysis for the rule and it could not go into effect before that happened. The court did not actually make a ruling on the rule itself and in fact were sympathetic to what the law was trying to do.

The FTC can re-implement the rule after that analysis is complete and it can go through the process after that but with the current admin they have chosen not to and generally Republicans were opposed to the rule.

If Lina Khan was still at FTC I imagine it would have been done but Sarah Ferguson who voted against the rule initially now runs it. But both parties are the same of course.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-p…

Disable Autoplay and Infinite Scroll Or Risk Massive Fines, EU Tells Meta

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
The European Union is ramping up pressure on Meta to make big changes to Facebook and Instagram after the European Commission preliminarily found that features like autoplay, infinite scroll, and highly personalized content recommendations were addictive. On Thursday, the EC said its investigation indicated that “Meta did not adequately assess the risks of its addictive design on the physical and mental wellbeing of users, including minors and vulnerable adults.” “These features fuel the user’s urge to keep scrolling and shift the brain into ‘autopilot mode,’ contributing to unhealthy habits and compulsive use,” the commission said. Over the next few months, Meta will have an opportunity to dispute the claims, and it has already taken a defensive stance. Meta’s spokesperson, Ben Walters, told Reuters that Meta disagrees with the commission’s preliminary findings, which supposedly “don’t accurately take into account the significant steps we’ve taken to protect teens.”

“Since this investigation began, we rolled out Teen Accounts that automatically protect teens and put parents in control — allowing them to block access to Instagram at night and cap daily screen time at just 15 minutes,” Walters said. However, the EC emphasized that Meta’s current mitigation efforts, including time management tools activated by default for teens, “failed to effectively tackle the risks stemming from its addictive design.” Additionally, parental controls were deemed “only effective if parents and guardians possess adequate technical expertise” and dedicated “effort and time to understand them effectively.” “This undermines the efficiency of such measures in addressing the inherent risks posed by Instagram and Facebook’s addictive design,” the EC said, particularly for minors.

At this stage, the EC recommended that Meta consider “disabling key addictive features such as ‘autoplay’ and ‘infinite scroll’ by default, implementing effective ‘screen time breaks,’ and adapting its recommender system to make it less engagement-oriented.” If Meta fails to make changes to comply with the EU’s Digital Services Act, the company risks fines up to 6 percent of its global annual turnover when the EC makes its final decision in the coming months. “Our starting point is that, based on our findings, this design is too addictive and changes need to be made,” Henna Virkkunen, the EU’s tech chief, told Reuters. “The next step is either that Meta changes its design or a non-compliance decision will follow,” she said, noting in the press release that the EU’s priority is “protecting the physical and mental health of Europeans.”
“The Digital Services Act provides a clear framework to hold platforms accountable for the addictive design and effects of their services,” Virkkunen said. “We are fully committed to enforcing our legislation in Europe.”
The report also notes that the EC will share findings from experts on Monday that “could help pave the way for a Europe-wide social media ban for teenagers.” It’s not looking much better for Meta in the U.S., either. The company faces a lawsuit from 29 states that claim Meta’s platforms addict kids. “That trial begins in August, and states may seek up to $1.4 trillion in penalties if Meta is found guilty,” reports Ars.

Re:Leave Meta alone or face embargoes on all trade

By hawguy • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

There is no limit to is escalation tactics.

That’s all the more reason to not try to appease him, because there’s no limit to reasons he’ll think of to retaliate against perceived grievances. He could wake up one morning and fart crosswise and impose sanctions on the EU.

So the EU (and rest of the world) should just go about their lives, do what they need to do, and not worry about trade sanctions, because even trade agreements signed by Trump himself won’t prevent sanctions.

Social Fixer

By EnsilZah • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I managed to get Facebook to behave almost the way I want it to using the Social Fixer extension.
Chronological order, no ads, only posts from people and pages I’m actually following, no autoplay, no stories. But as a side effect it seems to reload the page multiple times and sometimes stalls for a while, so it ends up too much of a hassle to check it more than a couple times a day anyway.

Re:People are sheep and can’t help themselves

By Powercntrl • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I think there’s a middle ground between the libertarian view of it’s your own damn fault if you didn’t realize buying Snicker bars in bulk and stuffing your face with them will make you fat!” or “People lack the self control to snack responsibly, so we’re locking the junk food behind the counter and placing purchase limits on it.” IMHO, that middle ground should be educating and informing people of the risks, but ultimately leaving the final decision up to them (assuming they’re an adult, obviously).

Yeah, I know we’re discussing social media and not unhealthy food, but there’s a common thread with lawmakers believing they can make people healthier (mentally/physically) in spite of themselves.

Quite the opposite, I think…

By jenningsthecat • Score: 3 Thread

On Thursday, the EC said its investigation indicated that “Meta did not adequately assess the risks of its addictive design on the physical and mental wellbeing of users, including minors and vulnerable adults.”

I believe that Meta both assessed those risks and - based on those assessments - altered their design to maximize the risks.

Addicted people whose wills have been compromised by psychological manipulation are better targets for ads, propaganda, etc. Therefore, they’re more profitable; and profit is the god to which virtually all Capitalists kneel, whether or not they admit that fact to themselves or others. Zuck is a high priest in that tawdry religion.

Re:Leave Meta alone or face embargoes on all trade

By allo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

But are they convenient features?

Autoplay: Is there anyone who wants a random video to start catching their attention while reading their feed? That’s totally an advertiser feature.
Endless scroll: Just consider the alternative. With pagination you can bookmark where you stopped scrolling, so you can continue later.

Endless scroll forces you to read until the gap between the top and where you left off last time is closed, otherwise you never will find the position of where you stopped reading again. Chronological ordering would help a bit, but you still have to jump around between positions you can only find by scrolling and not by page numbers.

They are selling your attention and so they are optimizing how much content gets your attention. They are not optimizing for you to use the app effectively, they optimize for the ads to catch your attention.

Disney+ Explores a Free Tier As YouTube Draws TV Viewers

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Disney is exploring a free tier for Disney+ that would make some content available without a subscription. According to Nielsen data, the three largest free streamers accounted for 18.7% of watch time on U.S. TVs in April, up from 16.8% a year earlier and 12.7% in April 2024. Business Insider reports:
Product and tech chief Adam Smith spoke about enabling free-tier content during a streaming town hall on Thursday afternoon, one staffer said. Smith didn’t share a timeline for this initiative or a sense of the scope, this person added. A person familiar with Disney’s streaming strategy said these talks are part of an ongoing discussion about concepts to better serve fans. Currently, the Disney+ and Hulu bundle costs $12.99 a month with ads or $19.99 without ads at full price.

Television Model

By Koreantoast • Score: 3 Thread
So, content produced and broadcasted freely to the public funded by advertisements that are weaved into the show. Haven’t we seen this model before?

Re:No thanks, I’m good

By sabbede • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Well, since that was a term invented and self-applied by the far left, it’s a hard to define clump of negative feelings that lead to idiotic decisions.

Self-loathing, racism, sexism, and inverted jingoism dressed up as caring about things that can’t be changed because they already happened.
A political movement directed at ending Democracy and establishing a Socialist Dictatorship, but the people responsible don’t let on to that in public very often.
What we used to call White Liberal Guilt - A way for racist white liberals who think minorities are too stupid to make it without the help of a white lady, to assuage their guilt for those racist feelings while still actively promoting them.
Smug superiority based on self-loathing. Perverse, that.

I’m sure someone could provide a kinder definition, which won’t make much sense or hold up under scrutiny, but will be loaded with grandiose verbiage about fixing the past without a time machine.

Free tier?

By RitchCraft • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Translation: 20-25 minutes of content, 35-40 minutes of ads, per hour. No thanks, I cut the cord 30 years ago because of too many ads. Not going back. Disney thinking about introducing a free tier smacks of desperation. Has the greed finally started to erode things to a distasteful level?

They Can Suck It!

By SlashbotAgent • Score: 3 Thread

I’ve already got ads in my subscriptions. They can take their ad infested “free” tier and jam it up their ass. These streaming services deserve bankruptcy.

There are literally less ads on Xumo. For the moment…

Disney’s biggest problem

By The_Revelation • Score: 3 Thread
Is a lack of a parental filter. I’m not comfortable with their woke content nor do I feel it necessary for her to watch content with pre-teen homosexuality or transgender characters in much the same way that I, as a parent, wouldn’t want the kids shows to be about r-rated sex scenes or about topics like abortion or birth defects. I’d just like a filter for age appropriate content which effectively requires disney to provide a filter to hide anything they’ve made for the past 15 years.

OpenAI to Retire ChatGPT Atlas Browser Less Than a Year After Launch

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OpenAI is retiring its ChatGPT Atlas browser less than a year after launch. Going forward, its browsing features will be shifted into a redesigned ChatGPT desktop app that also combines Codex, a built-in browser, and "ChatGPT Work" for acting across apps and files. PCMag reports:
OpenAI disclosed Atlas’s retirement in a Thursday post introducing a more powerful ChatGPT desktop app, following reports that the company planned on turning it into a “superapp.” […] In a tweet, OpenAI product staff member James Sun added, “The current targeted date for deprecation is 8/9, and we’ll share more information in the upcoming days both in-app and via email.”

The sunsetting means the Windows version of ChatGPT Atlas has been canceled, though the ChatGPT desktop app is still available on both Mac and Windows. The company is already touting the built-in browser, noting: “You can ask ChatGPT to research a market, compare sources, pull information from websites, or open and refine files from Google Workspace and Microsoft 365 inside the app. It can use the browser to bring in fresh context, take steps across web pages, and keep the work moving while you review and guide the result.”

SAP Makes It Easier For Customers To Shop For Legacy Product Support, Ending EU Antitrust Probe

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register:
The European Commission has ended an investigation into possible anticompetitive practices after SAP agreed to abolish reinstatement fees and reduce back-maintenance fees. The move could reduce barriers for customers considering third-party support for products nearing the end of their vendor support terms, including thousands of large businesses that rely on SAP ERP Central Component (ECC) to run their business operations. SAP’s mainstream support for ECC ends in December 2027, while customers can opt for extended maintenance until December 2030 by paying an additional two percentage points on their maintenance fees. The most recent figures from Gartner showed that in Q4 2024 only 39 percent of worldwide ECC customers — from a total of 35,000 — had bought or subscribed to licenses to start their transition to SAP S/4HANA, the replacement ERP product.

In September last year, the European Commission launched a formal investigation into SAP’s behavior in the aftermarket for maintenance and support services in Europe. It said it was responding to concerns that SAP restricted competition in this crucial aftermarket by making it harder for rivals to compete, leaving European customers with fewer choices and higher costs. In October, SAP published its response. “SAP’s commitments aim at improving the financial attractiveness for customers who wish to reinstate SAP maintenance and support services. Thus, future costs associated with reinstatement will not financially prevent customers from choosing to terminate SAP maintenance and support for a given period of time,” the document said (PDF).

SAP has now agreed to abolish reinstatement fees and reduce back maintenance fees charged to customers who return to SAP’s support after a period of absence, the Commission confirmed. It also agreed to clarify conditions that allow customers to choose different maintenance and support service providers and different levels of support from SAP. The agreement is relevant to customers considering third-party support to extend their use of ECC beyond vendor maintenance. For example, last year, European retailer Kingfisher — owner of well-known UK brands B&Q and Screwfix — told a Gartner conference it had chosen Rimini Street to support ECC 6.0 because it saw insufficient value in migrating to SAP S/4HANA. […] The commitments offered by SAP will remain in force globally for ten years.

OpenAI’s CEO of AGI Deployment, Fidji Simo, Is Stepping Down

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OpenAI’s CEO of AGI deployment, Fidji Simo, is stepping down from her full-time role and becoming a part-time adviser after taking extended medical leave for a chronic neuroimmune condition. “Three months ago, I had to go on medical leave after a severe exacerbation of a chronic illness I’ve lived with for seven years,” Simo wrote in a post Thursday on X. “During that time, it became clear that the road to recovery would be much longer and more complex than I had anticipated — and that I needed to focus on it fully.” Wired reports:
Simo joined OpenAI’s board of directors in March 2024. The following year, CEO Sam Altman hired her to take on the product and business organizations so he could focus on research and the company’s data center buildout. Previously, Simo was the CEO of Instacart and head of the Facebook app at Meta.

Shortly before starting at OpenAI, Simo experienced a significant health relapse. She was diagnosed with postural tachycardia syndrome, or POTS, in 2019. “For my entire time here, I’ve postponed medical tests and new therapies to stay completely focused on the job and not miss a single day of work,” she told OpenAI staff in a memo back in April, announcing her temporary departure. “It’s now clear that I’ve pushed a little too far and I really need to try new interventions to stabilize my health.”

News of Simo’s medical leave came amid a larger executive shakeup that saw Brad Lightcap, OpenAI’s former COO, transition to a role overseeing special projects. OpenAI president and cofounder Greg Brockman took over OpenAI’s product strategy. In the months since Simo stepped back from OpenAI, the company further reorganized its product teams, positioning Thibault Sottiaux as head of the company’s core products, including ChatGPT.

Here’s a different take

By smooth wombat • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
This story has the wonderful title, Fidji Simo says Mark Zuckerberg gave her one piece of health advice years ago, and she wishes she had listened.

In short, she was so excited to have hit her dream job at the age of 40, that work-life balance never entered the picture. Now she’s a multi-milionaire who will, probably, spend the rest of her life struggling to have something approaching a normal life.

Microsoft to Retire OWA Light Client In Exchange Server

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Microsoft plans to disable and remove OWA Light, the lightweight Outlook Web Access client for Exchange Server, in an upcoming update expected in August 2026. The company says retiring the two-decade-old legacy interface will reduce attack surface and engineering complexity, pushing users to the modern Outlook on the web experience instead. BleepingComputer reports:
“OWA Light was an important compatibility experience when the web needed it. Today, the full Outlook on the web experience is the right place for us to focus,” the Exchange Team said on Wednesday. “Retiring OWA Light will help reduce legacy surface area, simplify ongoing engineering work, and allow us to continue improving the experience customers use every day.”

Microsoft introduced OWA Light roughly two decades ago as an alternative to OWA Premium, offering a simplified web interface for systems that didn’t have Internet Explorer 6 or later installed or ran older web browsers. At the time, the company said that OWA Light offered a cleaner look, faster logon times on low-bandwidth Internet connections, and worked in locked-down browser modes (such as kiosks).

Microsoft deprecated OWA Light as of August 19, 2024, and announced this week that the OWA Light experience will likely be removed from Exchange Server (on-premises) next month. “In an upcoming Exchange Server update (estimated in August 2026), we plan to disable and remove the OWA Light experience. After that change is introduced, users will no longer be able to choose or be redirected to OWA Light and should use the modern Outlook on the web experience instead.”

Re:Experience

By sabbede • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
I think what happened is that over a decade ago, some market researchers found that millenials preferred “experiences” over physical items (probably because they make for better selfies). Marketing departments, being staffed with geniuses and definitely not people who are “like sheep, but drunk”, ran with it and haven’t let go.

Re:Experience

By sabbede • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
They’re called “the marketing department”.

I suspect a great many things could be improved by their absence.

I forgot it existed

By jfdavis668 • Score: 3 Thread
Guess that would make it a good thing to retire.

Microsoft might be right about this one

By DarkOx • Score: 3 Thread

As much as I want to say, it might be useful to have Web Based E-mail interface that will work in a basic / legacy browser, I don’t know this is really true.

Not much of the web works at all if you try to use it with anything not Chromium or Apple-Webkit from less than five years ago. YMMV with recent Mozilla engines.

The few places where I can see someone maybe wanting to use this are the very places that people definitely should be isolating from all things Internet, especially not exposing it to e-mail content, which even if restricted to being from the local domain could still contain something malicious accidentally forwarded.

I can certainly understand why people would want / maybe just like or prefer a range of other legacy mail client. I mean if you handle a lot of mail and have been using Pegasus or something for the last 30 years and its all muscle memory, sure I get it. Moving from OWA-lite to OWA though probably isnt much bother for most people. At some point it makes sense to drop software likely very few folks are using.

Re:Anyone Here?

By Hadlock • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Basically everyone who works in a regulated industry, or industry that should be does, yes.

Nobel-Winning US Chemist Will Move to China to Lead AI Institute

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Nobel-winning chemist Omar Yaghi is leaving UC Berkeley for China’s Tsinghua University, where he will lead a new AI institute focused on accelerating the discovery of advanced materials. “Last week, Tsinghua University in Beijing welcomed Dr. Yaghi in an appointment ceremony, calling him one of the world’s foremost chemists,” reports The New York Times. “The university said he saw his new post as an opportunity ‘not to slow down, not to repeat what has already been done, but to do science with more energy, more intensity, and more ambition than ever before.’" From the report:
Dr. Yaghi was born in Amman, Jordan, to Palestinian refugees whose one-room home lacked electricity and running water. Early on, he became fascinated with a schoolbook’s depiction of atomic building blocks. When he was 15, his father, a butcher, sent him to the United States. Last year, before flying to Stockholm to receive his Nobel Prize, Dr. Yaghi in an interview with The New York Times voiced concern about Mr. Trump’s immigration policies, saying that they endanger the nation’s system of universities, companies and governments that promote scientific excellence. “I think it’s regrettable,” he said of Mr. Trump’s nationalism. “We have to know that people coming from different backgrounds improve the level for everybody involved,” he added. “That’s an amazing story. Great thinkers can improve not only the U.S. but the world.”

Dr. Yaghi joined the University of California, Berkeley, in 2012, and while there earned many awards for his scientific advances. He received his Nobel Prize for helping discover a world of chemistry in which molecular building blocks are assembled into structures that possess vast internal surface areas — the largest of any known substance. His porous structures can act like sponges that readily absorb, store and release gases and vapors. He named them metal-organic frameworks. The metal atoms form an adjustable framework that can hold chemicals associated with life — carbon atoms in particular. While deeply theoretical, the frameworks are so radical, innovative and flexible in nature that materials experts and companies foresee many commercial uses for them. The frameworks can, for instance, harvest water from desert air. In 2018, Dr. Yaghi’s students at Berkeley tested the idea in the Mojave Desert in California, finding that a small passive harvester could each day produce nearly three cups of pure, drinkable water. The device is now nearing commercialization.

In the interview with The Times, Dr. Yaghi credited the invention to his boyhood efforts to secure water for his family. The municipal pipes worked for only a few hours every week or two. That hardship, he added, shows how the diverse experiences of emigres can lead to unexpected breakthroughs. Dr. Yaghi has longstanding ties with Tsinghua University. In 2022, the Beijing school appointed him as an honorary professor and in that role he closely followed its work in chemistry, materials science and related disciplines. Now, on joining Tsinghua full time, Dr. Yaghi is being named as the head of a new A.I. institute for science research that will focus on the design and synthesis of new materials. Its underlying aim, the university said, is to “overcome the efficiency bottlenecks of traditional trial-and-error approaches” and shorten the usual cycles of discovery.

Re:Why

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The republican party cares more about grabbing power than helping people or making things better.

Given that they control all 3 branches of government, can any MAGA fans list legislation that has helped anymore?

Lower grocery prices?
Lower fuel costs?
Job creation?
Inflation?
Federal deficit?
Healthcare?
Education?

I’ll check back if anyone can think of anything.

Re:The USA is not welcoming of foreigners

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Advanced materials research is morally ambiguous? You talk about “free and open” while people in this country are charged with felony vandalism for touching the peeling paint in the reflecting pool. https://www.wusa9.com/article/…

Or how about being executed in the street for exercising second amendment rights? https://www.bbc.com/news/artic…

Re:The USA is not welcoming of foreigners

By Targon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

When China invites people because they have skill, they don’t set the power of the government to harass those people. Here in the USA, the current administration is not only turning people away who want or wanted to come, but those who ARE allowed to come are then assaulted by ICE in many cases. That is what makes the USA obviously hostile toward immigrants as well as visitors.

Re: The USA is not welcoming of foreigners

By _merlin • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

For what its worth, people TALk a lot of sh$t here but our murder and crime rates are actuallly pretty low.

US intentional homicide rate is 5.763 per 100,000 population. That’s considerably higher than the wild west known as the Philippines at 4.348, and Liberia at 3.087. It’s more than five times Scotland at 1.038, Germany at 0.911 and Australia at 0.854. It’s over ten times Northern Ireland at 0.521, and twenty times Japan at 0.229. US murder and crime rates are not low.

Re:The US gave him everything

By oumuamua • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
You got it backward, through his own hard work, paying fees and exorbitant tuition, he provided the US with top class research and the prestige of a Nobel Prize all while earning much less than a sport star or movie star. Then Israel with full US support started genociding his kinfolk, and his own tax dollars were going to that, it was a bit too much to stomach.

Humanoid Robots Controlled By Surgeons Did World-First Operation On Live Pigs

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
Humanoid robots have surgically removed the gallbladders from living animals in an unprecedented medical experiment — but not as autonomous machines capable of replacing human doctors. Instead, skilled human surgeons remotely controlled the robots’ movements in a new example of human-robot teamups. The teleoperated humanoid robots completed two minimally invasive surgeries by removing gallbladders from live pigs during a preclinical trial that was published in the journal Nature. If this approach eventually proves clinically ready for human patients, surgeons could use such humanoid robots to remotely perform robotic-assisted surgical care in smaller hospitals and clinics that lack the resources to install specialized but expensive surgical robots.

The experiment used a Unitree G1 humanoid robot made by leading Chinese robotics company Unitree. The cheapest baseline G1 model with effectively non-functional hands has a starting price of $13,500 and shipping costs ranging between $300 and $1,200, whereas adding crucial upgrades such as dexterous robotic hands can easily push the cost beyond $67,000. But such humanoid robots made in China are still significantly cheaper than specialized surgical robots like Intuitive Surgical’s da Vinci Surgical System, which can cost anywhere between half a million dollars and several million dollars. The specialized surgical robots can also weigh about 1,800 pounds and take up considerably more space in operating rooms. By comparison, the Unitree humanoid robots, standing at 5 feet tall and weighing just 60 pounds, may be more suitable for smaller clinical settings in remote areas.

Pig Destroyer

By TwistedGreen • Score: 3 Thread

Will this be part of Grand Theft Auto VI? Even if only with the deluxe edition, sounds like it would make a great minigame.

This was already done autonomously

By backslashdot • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

A different group showed that the whole transplant can be done autonomously with no human involvement. Reference: https://hub.jhu.edu/2025/07/09…

Lawmakers Probe Growing Use of Chinese AI Models In US Companies

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U.S. lawmakers are probing the growing use of Chinese AI models by American companies, citing concerns over censorship, security risks, and whether U.S. firms are turning to cheaper foreign models because domestic alternatives are too costly or restricted. The investigation is specifically looking at companies such as Cursor and Airbnb. “The growing use of Chinese AI models by U.S. companies raises serious concerns,” a State Department spokesperson told CNBC. Those “AI models are designed to advance Beijing’s narratives, censor dissent, and reflect CCP ideology and values.” CNBC reports:
The House Committee on Homeland Security and the House Select Committee on China said in April they will jointly investigate the growing adoption of Chinese-developed AI models. An initial step in the probe was for the chairmen of those committees to send letters to Cursor and Airbnb, over their “use of or exposure to these risks” through AI developed in China. “The Chinese Communist Party is no longer just nipping at our heels in artificial intelligence; it is racing to close the gap in some of the exact capabilities that will shape the future of cybersecurity,” Andrew Garbarino, chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security, told CNBC. “Recent reporting that a Chinese open-weight model can match leading U.S. models in certain vulnerability discovery and cybersecurity tasks is highly alarming,” said Garbarino.

While some government departments have banned the usage of Chinese AI models including DeepSeek, adoption of them by U.S. companies is not prohibited. Tech chiefs, including crypto company Coinbase’s Brian Armstrong and AI startup Lindy’s Flo Crivello, have been publicly touting the use of models from China to reduce costs. Cursor, which will be acquired by Elon Musk’s SpaceX for $60 billion, built its Composer 2 model using Chinese AI model Kimi, which was developed by Moonshot AI. Alongside focusing on the rise of Chinese AI models, the ongoing joint House Committees’ investigation is also looking into whether the U.S. is doing enough to tackle their rise. “The Committees are also examining whether the United States has a sufficient open-weight AI strategy to ensure American companies and cyber defenders are not forced to choose between expensive or restricted U.S. models and cheap, capable PRC-developed alternatives,” a Committee aide, who asked not to be named as they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing probe, told CNBC.

[…] The administration could consider the use of federal procurement bans, which would include restricting government agencies and private companies that serve the U.S. government from using Chinese AI models, Kyle Chan, fellow in the John L. Thornton China Center at think tank Brookings, told CNBC. “However, it’s ultimately impossible to ban China’s open-source AI models because their model weights are available freely on the internet,” Chan added. “This could enter into first amendment speech issues.” […] Another [approach] could be disseminating findings about risks and vulnerabilities associated with Chinese AI models to U.S. companies. “Regardless, I do expect both the Executive Branch and Congress to communicate their interest not to see U.S. companies adopting these models,” [said Daniel Remler, senior fellow, technology and national security program at think tank the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), told CNBC].

American Open Weight Models

By bartoku • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It really seems like OpenAi, Google, Meta, and SpaceXAi would do well to release more open weight models.
Their current models are still a few months ahead of the Chinese models, so their last versions would be right on par.
It still takes a lot of expensive hardware to run the truly competitive Chinese models, as it would the on release old American models as well.
As a result you are not really going to lose much if any of your customers to those running your models locally, because if they are capable of doing that they are already looking else where.

But sadly the American frontier Ai model companies have mostly regressed in releasing open weights.
Meta has gone closed and is no longer really even talked much about.
Grok open weight releases are are behind on the promised release schedule sadly; and generally even behind in terms of their latest frontier model.
Although it will be interesting to see how the new Grok 4.5, the first model it trained with Cursor, is going to score.

The only good Capitalism is our Capitalism.

By SeaFox • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

…whether U.S. firms are turning to cheaper foreign models because domestic alternatives are too costly or restricted.

something, something… free market.

Freedom and fake regulation

By jamienk • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

US companies like OpenAI and Anthropic WANT regulation in order to block weaker players from developing competing AIs because they can’t conform to the regulations. The “costs” of running AI will be the cost of having massive data centers with all kinds of anti-copyright regulations, and a proliferating list of other phony safeguards, including “safe guarding” the companies’ own interests in parallel with being moral police, fear mongers, and buck-passers. Chinese and independent developers will train on pirated data and will not need data centers because they will be able to run locally. This will give them some competitive advantages - so the US companies will push to make training data, i.e, all writing and reading, be regulated – no one will be allowed to read websites unless they are logged in and ID authenticated. US AI companies will pay for access. Non-payers will be accused of violating international trade pacts, etc. Their AI models will be banned and there will be a movement to consider them criminal, selfish, etc. The main foreign policy of the US will be to get other countries to agree to license training data, and this issue will dominate US policy. When I (me, a programmer) want to program/train my own AI, it will be made illegal or at least very difficult. Right now it is difficult from a tech resource and org resource POV. But soon all the difficulty will be strictly from a regulatory POV. My access will increasingly need to be monitored and blocked.

But all of this is just a continuation of the DRM fights and the Free Software battles of the last decades. It isn’t even a huge shift. It is a disgusting and short-sighted vision of our values. The worst parts of our culture and business practices have come to dominate the world.

Re:Qwen

By coofercat • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Fun fact… I’m fiddling about “with AI” a bit, and burned through my free credits on Gemini. To keep the party going, I downloaded a new model into my Ollama - qwen3.

I wasn’t quite sure if everything had restarted and whatnot, so I asked the chat tool “what model are you”. It said, and I quote:

> I am Claude, a large language model created by Anthropic. I’m designed to be helpful, harmless, and honest in my interactions. Is there something specific you’d like to know or discuss?

I’d literally selected ‘qwen3-coder:30b’ in the model selector thing in Ollama, and yet it told me it’s Claude. I didn’t even do any clever ‘prompt hacking’.

So yeah, Qwen works - it works really well, and as it’s running locally now, it’s ‘free’ too.

Re:American Open Weight Models

By DarkOx • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

They are counting some combination of legitimate risk, FUD, and protectionism to ultimately protect them from the Chinese models.

The reality is at some point in the not to distant future it will be cheaper to put enough AI accelerator hardware in workstations to give most folks using Claude/Claude code and similar a perfectly acceptable degree of performance. It always goes this way - it is never cheaper put hardware behind the glass when it can go under the desk long term. The only reasons to do it usual boil down to management and wanting to do something more bleeding edge that hasnt filtered to commodity hardware yet.

Of course for online applications that need to scale, and for complex engineering or very large data volume tasks, sure “Cloud AI” and certainly for anyone who needs to train a model. However the idea these guys are going to get individuals and business to keep paying $200 for tokens to use some desktop AI assistant is unrealistic, and down goes the datacenter volume requirements along with that.

Again I am not saying there isnt a new industry / space here or that it is all a bubble but the current Anthropic/OpenAI/Grok business model persisting for a whole lot longer does not appear to me anyway to that it fits the patter of the last 25 years of White-Collar-targeted IT systems.

Let me caveat that I also think the sorts of people making big investments in Data Centers are not stupid and at least see this as a likely outcome as well, presumably they believe they can sell the space/capacity to other users for other applications. If so why not charge the Anthropics of the world with the VC money huge premiums to rush build outs while you can get them? As long the assets are still marketable after that business drops off, it is a win!

Google Search Hits All-Time Usage Record

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Google says the World Cup drove Search to its highest usage in history, with queries per second peaking right after Argentina’s winning goal against Egypt. CNBC reports:
The milestone comes as the company tries to prove its traditional search engine can keep its relevance in the age of AI, where chatbots have become more prevalent. Google still controls 90% of the search market, its stock price has more than doubled in the past year and revenue growth in the first quarter was the fastest for any period since 2022.

Google said its top searched query after the game was “argentina vs egypt.” Globally, the company also saw people searching for things like “argentina x colombia” and “how many world cup goals does messi have.” Additional queries included “what is it called when a player hits another player in game” and “is it messi’s last world cup.”

Huh?

By Kunedog • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

the company tries to prove its traditional search engine can keep its relevance in the age of AI

I would suggest the obsession with attaching AI to the search page/field/results like a parasite is not an indication they are trying very hard.

Queeries per second?

By outsider007 • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Come on Google, that’s no way to talk about World Cup fans!

Re:We need Google

By karmawarrior • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

And now we just give up and find ways to reword everything.

Google was better than Altavista when AV was a thing. Once the effective competition disappeared and the term “Google” became synonymous with searching, they broke their product in the name of “engagement”.

The really weird part to me is why none of the modern alternatives (DDG, Startpage, etc) are better. How hard could it be to implement a hard “include only these words, exactly as I spelled them”?

Re:We need Google

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

How hard could it be to implement a hard “include only these words, exactly as I spelled them”?

The issue is, I think, that those of us who want search engines to work exactly like that are in the minority.

I wonder how many of those were

By thegarbz • Score: 3 Thread

Android users, typing the match name into the Google widget on their phone so that you could get the “Pin to notifications” button that put the live scores on their phone’s lockscreen.

Also world cup searches aren’t Google searches. No one is searching anything, they want Google to bring up their FIFA stats. This is more like people using an app frustrated that the app isn’t working than anything related to a “search”. Even now typing “argentina vs egypt” into Google opens Google’s game info page rather than an actual search result.