Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Alphabet Heads For a $500 Billion Drop In Market Value
  2. Canada to Join EU Network of Supercomputers
  3. DoorDash Strikes $17 Billion Deal For US Rival Instacart
  4. Reddit Is Getting a ‘For You’ Feed
  5. ‘Please Let the Internet Die’
  6. Google Struggling to Make AI Mode Searches Pay
  7. Ink Droplets In Motion Snag Top Prize In Nikon Small World Contest
  8. Bank of America Kindly Asks That You Don’t Share Your Password With Your AI Assistant
  9. Anthropic Engineer Declares the Coding Interview Dead
  10. Massive Leak Exposes 41,000 Homeland Security Workers
  11. Amazon Puts a Camera In Its Echo Studio So Alexa Can See
  12. Are AI Execs Too Out of Touch To Build For the General Public?
  13. Amazon Finds ‘Tokenmaxxing’ Lacks Productivity Gains
  14. Apple Announces Its First Touchscreen MacBook Pro
  15. EMACS Turns 50

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Alphabet Heads For a $500 Billion Drop In Market Value

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Yesterday, Google reported its Q3 results that showed searches made through its AI Mode generate less revenue than traditional search, even as overall search revenue grew 12% year over year to $63.25 billion. The news sent Alphabet shares plunging, with Bespoke Investment Group reporting that the stock is on track for its steepest post-earnings decline since the company went public in 2004. Yahoo Finance reports:
At its low, Alphabet had lost $524 billion in stock market value, the second-biggest one-day loss ever for a US-listed company. Only Nvidia has lost more, about $593 billion on Jan. 27, 2025, the day China’s DeepSeek rattled AI investors. Alphabet would need to close at about $274.75, down roughly 15%, to take Nvidia’s record, by Yahoo Finance calculations. It has already blown past the $400 billion SpaceX lost on June 22, the previous No. 2.

In dollars, it’s Alphabet’s worst day by far. Its previous worst was about $275 billion on July 23. It’s also on track for the stock’s steepest drop after an earnings report since the company went public, according to Bespoke Investment Group. The previous low was a slide of nearly 10% in July 2008.

[…] US-listed stocks have shed $200 billion or more in a single session 18 times this year through Wednesday. That’s up from 13 in all of 2025 and none before 2022, according to Yahoo Finance calculations from Bloomberg data. Alphabet alone has lost about $1.4 trillion since its record in May.

Doc, it hurts when I do this

By Sloppy • • Score: 3 • Thread

searches made through its AI Mode generate less revenue than traditional search

Have you thought about disabling AI Mode and returning customers to traditional search? It’ll not only make you more money, but result in happier users too. Everyone-except-Nvidia wins.

Canada to Join EU Network of Supercomputers

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Canada is joining the European Union’s supercomputing network to give Canadian companies, startups, and researchers access to European computing resources for AI development. The partnership aims to strengthen AI cooperation and reduce dependence on US technology. Politico reports:
The EU’s supercomputing network is run by the EuroHPC Joint Undertaking, an EU public-private vehicle with an 8.2 billion-euro budget. The network consists of 14 supercomputers (some ranked in the global top 10), 19 AI-focused AI factories and 10 quantum computers. The vehicle will also run seven massive AI data center hubs, known as AI gigafactories, set to be built next year with a total investment cost of 30 billion euros.

Experts praised a possible EU-Canadian compute power team-up, but warned it’s only the start. “Compute cooperation is one of the most obvious short-term ‘middle power’ cooperation plays in AI,” said Anton Leicht, technology and international affairs fellow at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. But he added that for now “it doesn’t put a dent into the actual dependence” on the U.S. “As long as the U.S. builds gigawatt-scale clusters, no amount of cooperation that doesn’t result in massive buildouts will help,” he said.

Canada’s engagement in the EU’s supercomputer network builds further on Canada’s previous partial involvement in the EU’s flagship research and development program, Horizon Europe. Horizon Europe partially funds EuroHPC. To date, 38 countries have participated in the EU’s supercomputing network: 27 EU member countries plus non-EU countries including Norway, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Israel and Turkey.

DoorDash Strikes $17 Billion Deal For US Rival Instacart

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DoorDash has agreed to acquire Instacart for about $17 billion as it expands beyond restaurant delivery and deeper into the U.S. grocery market. The deal, expected to close in late 2027 or the first half of 2028, could face regulatory scrutiny over further consolidation in the delivery industry. Reuters reports:
DoorDash has offered Instacart shareholders $65 per share held, representing a premium of about 26% to the stock’s closing price on October 22 before reports of deal talks first emerged. The consideration will be at least 75% cash, with Instacart shareholders able to elect cash, DoorDash stock or a combination of the two, the companies said.

[…] The transaction is expected to close at the end of 2027 or the first half of 2028. The deal could face scrutiny over its impact on competition, with New York City’s Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP) saying on Wednesday that a potential merger continued a “troubling trend” of corporate consolidation. DoorDash, however, pledged on Thursday that local grocers could continue to work with any delivery platform they choose.

Reddit Is Getting a ‘For You’ Feed

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Reddit is overhauling its homepage with separate “For You” and “Following” feeds, with the former combining posts from subscribed communities and algorithmic recommendations based on users’ interests and activity. The Verge reports:
It’s a big shift for the platform, but not an entirely surprising one, as Reddit hasn’t been shy about wanting to switch up the homepage. Earlier this year, the company announced it would be deprecating r/all, which surfaced posts that were popular across the platform, as part of its “ongoing efforts to simplify Reddit and improve Home feed personalization.”
“This new feed experience is a first step in helping drive discovery that leads to something novel and relevant — an idea, a connection, a unique perspective, or even a new interest,” Reddit says. “A more human internet is not just something you sit back and watch, it is something you find value in and want to participate in.”

It continues

By phantomfive • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
The enshittification continues. Ruin things in the name of profit.

The uncomfortable truth is that a significant portion of the population prefers the enshittified feed, otherwise it wouldn’t be profitable.

Screw Reddit

By RamenJunkie • • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread
Man it’s gotten so terrible in less than a year. I swear they rolled out some AI moderation at the start because I ended up banned after 15+ years and it’s all the same ahitpost I always did. But hey, I had other accounts, but then dropping /r/all, probably because stories about how trash the US administration is were all over that feed. They are apparently dumping RSS feeds too, and block new and returning users from using old.reddit. Now this stupid For You nonsense because they are desperate to get people using communities besides the 5-6 actually useful small communities people still come for.

Ugh, no.

By ebunga • • Score: 3 • Thread

The whole point of reddit is that it’s Not That. If people wanted a facebook shovel feed they would be on facebook.

‘Please Let the Internet Die’

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Slashdot reader fjo3 shares an article from Wired:
The internet must be put out of its misery. Any rational observer can admit that the current iteration of the web — and the social fabric woven there — is not what they signed up for. Symptoms of advanced cultural decay can no longer be ignored. This thing is eating itself. Giants including Meta and Google have been forced to settle massive consumer lawsuits brought over privacy violations and mental health harms allegedly caused by the addictive mechanisms of their platforms. Schools are banning smartphones as multiple countries institute social media restrictions for under-16s. Parents are in a panic about their kids aspiring to careers as social media celebrities, losing themselves in a vast ecosystem of online casinos, or joining extremist movements. Generative AI, briefly considered an amusing novelty, is now a turbocharged slop engine for the web, filling feeds and comment sections with useless, grotesque content. As humans scroll past headlines about AI taking their jobs, confusing fantasy for reality, and contributing to cognitive decline, any consumer appeal the technology might have is turning to anguish. The data centers that power it have become increasingly unpopular, and politically radioactive.

To be online, many now admit, is to be endlessly manipulated and exploited. In December, Oxford University Press declared rage bait to be the word of the year, noting that use of the term had tripled over the previous 12 months. The lexical spike represented a heightened awareness that monetized social accounts churn out bad-faith takes and extremist content, automating this abusive behavior with generative AI, simply to profit off hostile engagement. Billionaire oligarchs have opened the floodgates to such inauthentic activity, conspiracy-mongering, and hate speech by rolling back moderation. In short, when you hang around online in 2026, you see little worth saving. Perhaps a decade ago, you felt that the glimmers of community and joy, of artistic and intellectual exchange, were enough to balance out the toxic junk. No longer.

Blame the correct thing

By LondoMollari • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

“The Internet” is not Meta and Google or whatever company we are talking about today. “The Internet” is not social media. The Internet is an interconnected network of servers and clients and other devices speaking a range of protocols but mostly TCP/IP and UDP, that communicate with one another. Should the interconnect die? No.

Should the bloodsucking companies manipulating people be punished? Yes, and this has just begun. It won’t be enough for some people and others will say “buyer beware.” But either way the headline is false and “The Internet” is a necessary communication medium.

Stop confusing social media and commercial services with “the Internet.”

Jon Katz, is that you?

By mccalli • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
Spirits walk among us.

Agree, we started with villages

By butt0nm4n • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

With social media, what they perhaps mean by “internet”, we tried to start with a global city and it turned out to be a tower of babble.

We proved to be not evolved enough to deal with a community that size. Anyone who says they like it as it is, is invested in the present chaos.

Start again with villages, little social networks, deciding what they want to let in and getting paid to be advertised to, if they choose to be.

If you want to build that, I can write the spec. The objective is a decentralised cooperative.

Re:Self described article

By butt0nm4n • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

A lot of free speech is shit speech as you demonstrate. Knee jerk, emotional and tribal reactions, your ego wanking into a bucket. You had a bad day, go rant at people on the internet and call it an abuse of free speech if you get called an asshole or get cancelled.

Freedom is chaos without some sense of personal responsibility. When you can publish anonymously any bollocks you wouldn’t say to someone’s face in the street, bereft of any courage, accountability or responsibility, that’s a perversion of free speech, how humans have communicated since the start of civilisation. It’s not free speech, it’s graffitti.

Shit free speech, and that’s what it is, shit, where no one is prepared to stand by their words, left us wide open to the destruction of our institutions of trust, they weren’t perfect, but they were better than no trust at all, and that is where shit speech has brought us to, total mistrust, prey to any shill with the means to shout loudest.

Now for the serious post… amend the title

By Akardam • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I would amend the title to: “Please let the way that most people use the internet die”.

And that has to start with individuals.

Are you ready to give up social media and clutivate a local group of like-minded friends who will put in the time and effort to socialize in-person?

Are you ready to shop locally for everything you can, and not order online unless you have to?

Are you ready to walk or drive yourself to your favorite local restaurant to pick up your takeout, instead of using a gig delivery service?

Are you ready to eschew LLMs, even to the point of pushing back on your employer if they insist you incorporate LLM output in your work?

The punchline to my little ol’ rant here is that I feel most people are too comfortable with, or too addicted to, or whatever to, the kind of things I mention above, and that for most people, if they think about it at all, might have a passing thought of “why should I bother, some other activist will start the fight and then I’ll just like their posts”.

Google Struggling to Make AI Mode Searches Pay

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Alphabet shares fell nearly 10% after Google disclosed that searches through its AI Mode generate less revenue than traditional search, even as overall search revenue grew 12% year over year to $63.25 billion. The Register reports:
Alphabet on Wednesday reported its Q3 results, which included news that its year-over-year search query growth rate is the highest it’s been in the last five years. Some of that growth comes from users adopting “AI Mode” — Google’s latest LLM-powered search system. Google’s revenue from search rose 12 percent year-over-year to $63.25 billion, a little lower than the 14.5 percent growth the company reported in last year’s Q3.

During Alphabet’s earnings call, chief business officer Philipp Schindler said the slowdown was caused by “lower monetization we were seeing in AI Mode.” That’s a worry given that Google is spending enormous sums on infrastructure. $51.4 billion went out the door in Q3, around two thirds of it going towards servers and networking equipment. The rest funded datacenter builds. That spending appears to have impacted profitability, as Alphabet reported $26.17 billion net income for the quarter. Last year’s Q3, during which Google revenue was $102.35 billion, produced $35 billion net income.

Schindler argued that AI search will pay off. “On AI Mode, many of these queries are upper funnel queries, allowing us to capture new, high-value commercial intent,” he told investors. “In addition, the majority of AI Mode queries are incremental, creating more monetization opportunities over time.” Google tried to seize one of those opportunities today, by turning on ads alongside AI Mode searches around the world, after first testing them in the US only. But for now, AI Mode searches aren’t as lucrative as Google’s existing search business, which brought in just under half of Alphabet’s $125.8 billion quarterly revenue.

Search engine company can’t do search

By Arrogant-Bastard • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
They had one job, many years ago, and at the time, they did it rather well. Now they can’t do anything well: they’ve turned their search into AI slop (use DuckDuckGo or StartPage instead), Gmail is one of the world’s top spam sources, Google Groups is garbage, their cloud outages keep increasing in severity and frequency, they’ve killed off too many projects/services to count, and their CEO is a fascist thug who kneels before Trump and obeys his every command.

If any part of your computing practice or operation depends on Google, it’s time to move somewhere else.

Re:Is any company managing to make AI anything pay

By Smidge204 • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Are you sure? There’s so much money tied up in circular loans and IOUs based on potential profits that I’m not sure they are.

For example: NVidia invests billions into OpenAI and Anthropic, who then use that money to buy NVidia products. Has NVidia actually made any money, or does the “demand” for the product simply drive up the speculative stock price?

=Smidge=

Amusingly

By Zak3056 • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

If you ask Gemini why Google’s search results have gotten so bad, it will give you an honest answer and suggest you use DuckDuckGo instead. Not exactly sure how you monetize “our service is telling our customers to go to our competitors instead” unless you’re Macy’s and you’re in a Christmas movie.

Re: Is any company managing to make AI anything pa

By DarkOx • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I agree

The winners here are going to be people with actual hardware IP (Nvidia, Apple, others), people with actual hardware fabs, and likely Google and Meta. I predict despite the current crazy valuations the Magnificent-7 eventually end up acquiring the leading AI labs.

The real costs are in building models, not hosting them comparatively speaking and that picture only improves as the energy infrastructure and hardware markets gradually align to the volume demands. The labs are already just reselling the hyperscallers computer, there is no reason those guys are not going to take ‘good enough’ models and beat them on price.

Having the ‘best’ models is an asset someone with existing SaaS, Marketing, etc business on the hand can leverage and by extension justify the expense. That is why I see OpenAI and Anthropic eventually becoming acquisition targets once the gold-rush investors capitulate on their valuations.

The option is for them to get directly into the datacenter biz (not contracting for them and agreeing consumption commitments but actually building them and owning the dirt all they way up to the roof top chillers. Anthropic seems to be trying to make that play but I still don’t know where the revenue will really come from…

Re:Search engine company can’t do search

By Arrogant-Bastard • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
"“fascist” being thrown around trivializes the millions of people that have died from fascism or dictatorships. From Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler and others.”

As someone who’s read Hannah Arendt (among many others) I’m well-acquainted with the concept of fascism and the abhorrent consequences of those who espouse it.

Trump is a fascist, and the killing has already begun. See, for example: Update on Lives Lost from USAID Cuts which estimates 500,000 to 700,000 deaths per year from that single decision alone. (Of course almost all of these will be black and brown people, so Trump would prefer that we not count their lives at all.) But as awful as this already is, and it will get worse, it’s only part of the killing. His insane health secretary is pushing nonsense, which is why measles is back (and it won’t be the only returning disease). His drunk secretary of defense orchestrated the bombing of a girl’s school. His gestapo (ICE) is disappearing and killing people on a constant basis. And yet all of these combined may only end up be a fraction of the total deaths due to his wholesale destruction of the environment and his embrace of fossil fuels at a time when we desperately need to be rid of them.

It is entirely possible that by the time he’s done that Trump will kill more people than Mussolini, Stalin, and Hitler combined. First, because there are more people to kill; second, because the world situation is more fragile than it was in their time; and third, because modern technology enables killing on a mass scale that simply wasn’t possible when those monsters were alive.

So I stand by the word “fascist”; that’s exactly what he is. The only remaining question is how high the body count will go before he’s stopped.

Ink Droplets In Motion Snag Top Prize In Nikon Small World Contest

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A 25-year-old German photographer won the 2026 Nikon Small World competition with a microscopic image freezing ink droplets in midair as an inkjet printer deposits them onto paper. Ars Technica reports that Ole Bielfeldt “beat out 1,802 other entries hailing from 69 different countries.” From the report:
Bielfeldt became interested in photomicrography during the COVID-19 lockdown after discovering an old microscope in his parents’ attic. He figured out how to build an adaptor out of a tube and some wood to connect the microscope to his father’s camera and taught himself the art through trial and error, building custom tools as needed. He documents how he captures transformative images of everyday objects with behind-the-scenes videos posted to macrofying, his photography and videography brand.

It was Bielfeldt’s curiosity about the inner workings of inkjet printers that inspired his winning entry, but capturing the action of ink drops being deposited on paper was a challenge, given that the process happens so quickly. The droplets, for instance, moved faster than the camera’s shutter speed. Bielfeldt’s solution was to deconstruct the printer so that the paper moved under a stationary (rather than moving) printhead, and then take the image in a dark room, using a flash to serve as the shutter, thereby freezing the ink drops mid-air. There was no need for pricey equipment. Bielfeldt does not use AI in his images, preferring to rely on traditional techniques.
“Ole Bielfeldt’s winning image embodies what makes Nikon Small World so powerful: the intersection of microscope imaging, ingenuity, and artistry,” said Eric Flem, a spokesperson for Nikon Instruments. “By using a microscope objective in a different way, he transformed a familiar object into something altogether new and previously unseen. It is a reminder that the microscope is not only a scientific tool but also a creative one, capable of expanding how we see and imagine the world around us.”
The full list of winners can be found here.

Wow

By drnb • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Wow. a news for nerds story that is actually pretty damn cool. Even a summary that is interesting.

Looks like a cool background for intro credits

By drnb • • Score: 3 • Thread
I don’t know why, but it looks like a cool background for a movie or series into credits.

Bank of America Kindly Asks That You Don’t Share Your Password With Your AI Assistant

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Longtime Slashdot reader schwit1 shares a report from TechCrunch:
In an email blast to customers titled “Protecting your finances in the Al World,” Bank of America urged customers to never share their username and password with another person or an outside service, "including an Al-enabled tool or agent that offers to act on your behalf.” […] A spokesperson for Bank of America confirmed the authenticity of the bank’s email that was posted to social media. But heed the bank’s warning, for if things go wrong, it’s on you. Account agreements at most banks hold customers responsible for anyone they give their log-in to. “If you do share your credentials,” its email reads, “keep in mind that you’re responsible for activity resulting from that access.”

A fool and their money are soon parted

By jhoegl • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Happens way more than people think.

How abysmally stupid do you have to be …

By gweihir • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

… to even only seriously consider doing that? These people are operating on the level of totally deranged cultists.

Finally …

By drnb • • Score: 3 • Thread

Bank of America Kindly Asks That You Don’t Share Your Password With Your AI Assistant

Finally, good advice from too-big-to-fail banks. ;-)

Anthropic Engineer Declares the Coding Interview Dead

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An Anthropic engineering manager says he has stopped using traditional coding interviews because AI can now outperform candidates on the kinds of programming challenges they typically contain. “There’s no more point in giving you a little React challenge than there is in quizzing people about assembly; Claude is now better at both,” said Felix Rieseberg in a blog post. “Our most impactful builders are successful regardless of how good they are at these tests.” The Register reports:
“I don’t think the coding interview is going to come back,” said Rieseberg. “It’s easy to get sentimental given how many copies of ‘Algorithms and Data Structures’ were bought in hopes of unlocking good jobs and a better future — or how the death of the coding interview is another milestone in software engineering reaching a new level of abstraction.”

At the same time, he’s not certain what will replace it. “I’m probably not the only manager trying to figure out how to interview for people who build well with AI,” Rieseberg wrote. “I haven’t quite gotten there yet — but I’m scanning resumes and portfolios for little prototypes that exhibit taste, empathy, and principled thinking. If you have figured out something better, I’d love to hear how.”
In a response posted to social media, Jaana Dogan, principal engineer at Google, said: “I’m not doing a ton of coding interviews nowadays but I’d be interested to interview how people use coding agents,” she wrote. “That itself gives me more signals about candidates’ coding skills.”
“We are not seeing tech companies abandon skills assessments widely across the industry — at least not yet,” added Nicole Bachaud, labor economist at ZipRecruiter. “In fact, based on our October 2026 Employer Survey of 1,500 employers, we see the tech industry (Information sector specifically) is actually the most likely to test for skills, with 62.5 percent of employers requiring formal skill tests on initial applications.”

“The change at Anthropic might be reflecting a shift away from technical skills towards more human, soft skills,” said Bachaud. “As AI becomes fully capable of writing code, tech employers may be pivoting away from rote technical testing and heavily toward human-centric soft skills.” She argues that while AI may be able to code well, it can’t replace critical thinking. “A staggering 61.5 percent of Information employers now report that ‘critical thinking’ is a primary skill lacking in today’s candidate pool,” she said.

Re:From one dev manager to another

By Brain-Fu • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I have worked with junior level devs who just take a dev task’s requirements, hand it straight to AI, put that through basic testing (only the main intended cases) and then offer that up as a finished solution. The solution was, of course, full of holes, some of them quite serious, just not obvious. The holes were in the edge cases and how it handles and recovers from errors. These were exactly the kinds of mistakes I would expect a junior level developer to make (in at least one case I am thinking of, the task shouldn’t have even been handed to someone so inexperienced, but the people making that decision didn’t really know how advanced the task was and anyway the dev wanted to get real experience).

So, our process worked because we had senior level human code review, which caught these. But the real risk here is that without such experienced senior level people to do that review this would have seemed like a “slam dunk” where AI saved a whole lot of time and eliminated the need for expensive veterans on the team (only to fail catastrophically in production as soon as something hiccupped). This is what I am most concerned about. Companies will fall for this. Especially new companies where leadership is just as inexperienced at running a tech business as the cheap vibe coders they hire.

So if we are hiring people who will be using AI to do most of the coding work, I think we need to test the thoroughness of their thinking, their ability to detect unspoken problematic edge cases and know to focus on them when reviewing the AIs output, and the ability to recognize dangerous vagueness in requirements and ask for clarity. Also, the ability to mentally translate between “business speak” and “tech speak” is extremely valuable.

Though I still don’t feel right about skipping a proof of coding skills. I just don’t think we are yet at the point where it is safe for someone who can’t code to be relying on AI to get it right. The aforementioned senior developers doing the code review are all people who have been coding by hand for years, and in order for such people to continue being available to do code reviews in the future, we need to make sure we hire people who can do this.

Not surprising to me

By jenningsthecat • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

“A staggering 61.5 percent of Information employers now report that ‘critical thinking’ is a primary skill lacking in today’s candidate pool,”

I’m an old fart so I may be totally out to lunch on this one, but I get the impression that most of today’s schools really don’t teach students to think, question, analyze, and synthesize. I think this applies across all subjects, not just in technical ones.

Part of me thinks that the ones who DO know how to think and analyze are tilting the table against subsequent generations by under-funding education, healthcare, and nutrition. If you look at today’s parasite class - many of whom are in the tech field - you see that their political attacks on taxpayers getting any of the benefit from the money they’ve paid are increasing. The broligarchs want it all for themselves, and I think they see AI as a stepping stone toward making the bulk of humans now living on Earth expendable. I think that it’s in their plans to expend a whole lot of us.

And replace them with what?

By evslin • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

If you don’t know what to replace a coding interview with, then you aren’t a “thought leader” as they like to call themselves on LinkedIn - you’re just trying to make the rest of the industry dogfood your product for you while your company loses amounts of money equivalent to the GDP of small countries every year.

In the meantime, I still need to know if an applicant knows how to code, because if they get an LLM to write something for them and it’s shit, I’m not yelling at their LLM, I’m yelling at them. So, the coding interview stays.

Re:From one dev manager to another

By tragedy • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Your process for interviewing should not change. You need engineers that can think well to judge the output of an LLM well.

Quite right. The logic the manager from the article is presenting is incomprehensible. They’re arguing what? That you don’t need coding problems in interviews because an AI can do them instead. Classically, they have been stock problems that are pretty much just mild variations of standard stuff from textbooks. So if you don’t need to bother with them now because AI can do them, then you never should have needed to bother with them because the problems had already been done before, thousands of times, and written down. What does this guy think, that the coding problems in interviews are vital new developments in computer science or something? Now, some companies do actually present those as problems just to see how the interviewee approaches them, and there are also some stories about unethical companies that have used long-form interviews as a way to get programming piecework done for free by suckers, but that’s not what’s being discussed here. The point is that we’re talking about a basic way to make sure that interviewees actually understand the concepts themselves, not asking for the interviewee to demonstrate that they can accomplish some amazing task that no-one else on Earth could perform.

Re:Not surprising to me

By gweihir • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

It has always been like that. In fact, most of those claiming they want to hire critical thinkers actually are not critical thinkers themselves and do not want to hire any. Critical thinkers have always been rare, they are inconvenient, they tell you that you are doing things wrong. There are very few people that want to hire such people and these are critical thinkers themselves. But these people tend to get not promoted and eventually removed from an organization and hence the circle of mental incapability continues.

Massive Leak Exposes 41,000 Homeland Security Workers

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A massive leak has exposed records tied to more than 41,000 DHS employees and contractors, including roughly 10,000 ICE personnel. The data, reportedly taken from DHS’s Okta login system, reveals phone numbers, email and office addresses, reporting relationships, and permission groups associated with undercover operations, wiretapping and surveillance tools. Wired reports:
In all, the leak provides a map of how DHS is organized and how it operates. The records, which span DHS itself as well as seven component agencies, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement and US Customs and Border Protection, were last updated on August 19, 2026.

The transparency nonprofit Distributed Denial of Secrets and cybersecurity researcher and journalist maia arson crimew previewed the data to WIRED, which they say they obtained from a group calling itself the Department of Peace. DDoSecrets published the archive, which it calls “Icepick,” on Wednesday. In a press release, DDoSecrets says the data is from DHS’s Okta login system. In a note with the files, the hackers wrote, “They have our information, so it’s only fair that we have theirs.” An Okta spokesperson tells WIRED that it is unaware of any breach of its systems. “We are aware of this report. Okta is secure, and we have no evidence our data or systems were compromised,” the spokesperson says.

Re:Leftists in Prison

By Anonymous Coward • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

aw honey

doesn’t it get old inventing imaginary enemies?

when the courts say that someone is a ‘sex trafficker’, that’s not ‘leftists’. The court isn’t ‘leftists’. You have enough enemies without inventing new ones. don’t be greedy.

Re:Public domain data is now public domain

By Zero__Kelvin • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
I agree that ICE Agents should pay for their crimes, but don’t you think you execution for insubordination might be taking it a bit too far? It seems like a couple of decades in prison for their treason should be enough. The prisoners will take it from there.

Re:Public domain data is now public domain

By Arrogant-Bastard • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
“Why though? These aren’t elected officials, they aren’t political positions. Why should their information be any more public than who your employer is (assuming you don’t work for yourself in a small family owned business)?”

Because those of us who work for governments (which I’ve done, twice) are public servants. We are accountable to our supervisors and their supervisors and so on, but that chain of accountability ultimately ends with the citizens of the city/county/state/province/country that pays us. We are required, by basic professional ethics, to always keep their best interests in mind, and — in my view — to put their interests ahead of our own.

In both the cases I mentioned above, not only was my basic personal information available to everyone — name, address, position, etc., — but so was my salary. As it should be: the people paying me have the right to know what they’re paying me, and what they’re paying me for.

Re:Oh No!

By gtall • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

On the other hand, you the future Social Security recipient, will get increasingly taxed because you made the U.S. unwelcoming for immigrants and migrants. What precisely is it that you object to? Them coming here and working their tails off, raising families, paying taxes, etc., essentially acting like good citizens.

But maybe we’re fucking Christian Nation, able to look a poor migrant in the eye and tell them to enjoy the Love of Jesus Christ on their own because they won’t be getting any of it from you.

Re:Oh No!

By Targon • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

MAGA is based on the idea that those from Spanish-speaking countries are unskilled and don’t speak the English language. Now, if those who are unskilled and don’t speak the language are being hired over MAGA, that says pretty clearly that MAGA is made up of unskilled and worthless people who KNOW that with ANY competition for jobs, they won’t get the job.

Seriously, if an immigrant is a better choice, then people really need to look at their own skills before complaining about immigrants taking their job. The only ones who have a valid complaint are when companies will pay immigrants less for the same level of skill and experience, at which point, the COMPANIES should be the ones being demonized, not the people working and looking to get a job.

Amazon Puts a Camera In Its Echo Studio So Alexa Can See

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Amazon has added a camera to its Echo Studio speaker, allowing Alexa to visually identify objects, help with tasks and remotely monitor a room. For those concerned about privacy, Amazon is keeping a camera-free version available. The Next Web reports:
The camera speaker ships today for $249.99. Hold up a board game box and Alexa can explain the rules, or show it a box of cereal and it can help you reorder it, according to Amazon. Owners can also check in on the room from the Alexa app while they are away. The Echo Studio without a camera stays on sale at $219.99.

A dedicated button turns off the microphones and any camera, and a visual indicator shows when a camera streams images or video to the cloud, Amazon said. Certain features require Alexa+, which is included with a Prime membership.
Other devices Amazon unveiled today include an Echo Time alarm clock, an Alexa Photo Frame and the Echo Show 16.

Nope!

By LondoMollari • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

AI already knows enough about me without seeing my half nude midnight runs to the fridge.

Ha Ha Ha

By SlashbotAgent • • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

I had an Echo Dot given to me. It sat unopened on my desk for a couple of years. Then I recycled it, still in the original unopened box.

Now they’ve added a camera? Ha ha ha ha.

But seriously; why would anyone buy that thing? I know that many people will. But why?

The dedicated button…

By dskoll • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

A dedicated button turns off the microphones and any camera

Yes. For sure it does. Absolutely. Scout’s honor.

CORRECTION

By JustAnotherOldGuy • • Score: 3 • Thread

“A dedicated button turns off the microphones and any camera”

CORRECTION: “A dedicated button CLAIMS to turn off the microphones and any camera”

And if you believe that horseshit, come on over and I’ll sell you the Golden Gate Bridge at a super-cheap price.

Colossus

By PPH • • Score: 3 • Thread

Didn’t Colossus demand that Dr Forbin be placed under video surveillance as well?

Are AI Execs Too Out of Touch To Build For the General Public?

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch:
Former Yahoo CEO and early Google engineer Marissa Mayer is catching a lot of flak for how she uses AI. In an interview about her new app Dazzle, an AI assistant that learns from your camera roll, Mayer poses what she believes is an impressive flex for the product: It helped her come up with three bullet points about her 10-year-old daughter for a birthday presentation at school, describing her as “empathetic, creative, and an animal lover.”

It’s a vague description, like a generic horoscope — it could probably describe a lot of 10-year-olds. Some onlookers, like progressive activist Leah Greenberg, marveled that “the fact that Marissa Mayer would voluntarily disclose this to a reporter is a pretty good demonstration of how deeply the culture of Silicon Valley has diverged from the rest of humanity.” […] After publication, Mayer defended herself in a long X post. She claims she was not relying on Dazzle to explain her child to her, but rather, she was testing what her prototype could do — it resurfaced photos of “forgotten kindergarten projects,” like a “snake devenomer” or “sandcat playground,” illustrating her daughter’s creativity and care for animals.

Fair enough. But Mayer remarks in the same interview that people could also use her AI to outsource the mental load of “figuring out the theme for your child’s birthday party.” She says she’s used her app to plan a playdate for her daughter, book family activities on vacation, and decide what to be for Halloween. She even proposes that her AI assistant could coordinate plans with her husband’s AI assistant. When the reporter asks her if it’s depressing to imagine this “frictionless future planned by AI,” Mayer replies, “I haven’t really thought that through.”
The bigger question is: What should we outsource to AI? “What feels like grunt work to someone might be a meaningful part of parenthood for someone else,” says Fortune’s Emma Hinchliffe.

Michael Tasner, Founder and CEO of No Joke Marketing, adds: “Customers are drowning in AI slop, and they can spot it. Use AI for the low-stakes work behind the scenes. Keep the moments that matter to your customers human. Human connection is becoming the new premium.”

Something wrong

By fropenn • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
There’s something wrong if the pressure to get ‘just the right birthday party theme’ requires too much ‘mental load.’ Maybe just try asking the child, and then do basically whatever they want? Doesn’t really require much mental load.

But I suppose the real pressure comes from having to top everyone else with dramatic, over-the-top social media photos of The Most Amazing Birthday Party Theme of All Time and Aren’t I Just the Most Amazing Mother / Parent to Walk on Planet Earth? Like and subscribe.

Everyone would be much happier if you just threw that stupid phone and its lame AI app in the recycling bin and got on with living your real life with the real people right in front of you.

Re:Wrong question.

By gweihir • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I agree. I think by now we have arrived as “malice” for what the LLM pushers do. Time to stop them and put them away. But humanity seems to be incapable of dealing with its worst members, and not only in this area.

Re:Wrong question.

By Type44Q • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The idiots trying to figure out uses for AI remind me of the Kalahari bushmen with the coke bottle.

Money changes you

By wakeboarder • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

When your whole life is focused on that, you really lose sight of what is good for other people, you’ll make decisions on what is good for your bottom line and then deal with the fallout. We have seen this time and time again from the tech industry, take social media for an example (We’ll enslave humanity if it increases ad revenue). AI as a product is nice now because no enshittification yet. They are currently still trying to get their hooks into people with freemium models, once they need to extract revenue it’s going to get scary.

The behavior only makes sense when you realize…

By BitterEpic • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The behavior only makes sense when you realize that it is all about getting investor money. Keep in mind that investors are giving a sh*t ton of money that would normally be considered a movie gag. It’s literally free money and people are showing just about anything that they think that investors will bite on. This explains *all* behavior. It isn’t any more complicated than that. Everyone knows there is a bubble, but talking about it isn’t going to get you that sweet VC.

I’m also going to repeat: the rotton core of America is coming from Wallstreet. The rewords for business regarding AI is all coming from there and there needs to be some reforms… I don’t really need my 401K investment money being used to try to create technology to remove my job *before* I retire. But for some reason I don’t get that choice in the American economy?

The businessmen have taken over silicon valley. It is no longer about people trying to make people’s lives better. It is no longer about fun. It is no longer about making a business that will stand the test of time. It is about where to funnel that venture capital.

Amazon Finds ‘Tokenmaxxing’ Lacks Productivity Gains

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Ancient Slashdot reader Gilmoure shares a report from Tom’s Hardware, adding: “Huh. Looks like consuming one’s own slop does not turn the wheels of industry.” From the report:
Amazon wants its engineers to quit chasing token counts, warning that heavy AI usage does not automatically mean better work. In updated engineering guidelines published on October 27, the company laid out how developers and managers should gauge AI’s real impact — and the takeaway is blunt: consuming more tokens is not the same as delivering more value. […]

According to the memo, metrics such as AI adoption rates, token consumption, code changes, and code reviews become “deeply flawed” when they are disconnected from actual results. Turning them into targets, Amazon says, encourages wasteful behavior that clashes with its emphasis on “frugality and simplicity” and can raise both compute bills and software complexity.

The company’s preferred yardstick is long-term results. “We believe that it is best to measure, and be measured by, long-term outcomes,” Amazon wrote. That does not mean managers should ignore usage data altogether, as input metrics remain useful when examined “with care and judgment” alongside other indicators. Amazon suggests looking at both the teams using AI the least and those using it the most to determine whether adoption is translating into better delivery.

[…] The memo also pushes back on the idea that every task needs an AI tool. If current tooling does not benefit someone’s work, Amazon says, that is “a finding, not a failing.” Engineers who can explain where today’s tools fall short are demonstrating judgment rather than reluctance to adopt AI.

from the files of “No Shit Sherlock”

By haruchai • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

how did the idiots who made the policy ever get hired?

Organizations suboptimize to meet new metrics

By spazmonkey • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Studies show it takes 30 days for employees suboptimize efforts to adjust output to get results that fit new performance metrics.
Its not just that THIS performance metric was pants-on-head stupid. Its the entire idea that a new performance metric will accomplish anything other than employees tailoring efforts to meet that new metric at the expense of job performance and meeting actual organizational goals.

Re:from the files of “No Shit Sherlock”

By Valkyre • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Came to post exactly this. You gave people a metric and said that their job depended on meeting it. What did you expect?

Re: from the files of “No Shit Sherlock”

By ArmoredDragon • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Cheese…This whole time I literally thought token maxing meant getting the most bang for your tokens. No joke. I never bothered reading anything about it because nothing about my job ever said “use no more than x tokens” and nobody ever said I was using too many. The work objectives have always been the deliverable, not how we delivered it. The only restriction we have is the obvious: Sandbox it, and don’t just give it everything.

Re:Organizations suboptimize to meet new metrics

By Martin Blank • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

My employer announced that AI costs will be billed back to departments. Token use (almost entirely among developers) was cut in half without affecting productivity, and perhaps even enhancing productivity because they had to think a bit about the best use of what they had instead of trying random things.

Apple Announces Its First Touchscreen MacBook Pro

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Apple has unveiled its first touchscreen MacBook Pro, reversing a position the company held for more than 15 years that touchscreens were poorly suited for laptops. 9to5Mac reports:
The new machine features a light-up Apple logo, tandem OLED, and touch input on the display. It runs on the M5 Pro and M5 Max chips, like the existing MacBook Pro models without OLED touch displays. John Ternus, who is rocking a new profile picture with the new Mac, shared the first look at the new machine on X. Pricing for the new laptop starts at $2899 for the 14-inch model. The 16-inch version starts at $3399.
Pre-orders are available starting today with deliveries starting November 6.

Pre-Greased

By TwistedGreen • • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

The spectacular PROLED XDR display features an industry-leading tandem OLED panel that provides up to 2000 nits peak HDR and SDR brightness, a 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio, and a wider color gamut covering both P3 and Adobe RGB.

It would be a shame to get your avocado-greased fingerprints all over such a display!

Re:Pre-Greased

By angel’o’sphere • • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

It probably works with a simple touch pen?
I bought one for 50 cents in Thailand.
Rarely use it on my phone, but might be useful on such a touch screen.

Does anyone like touch screens on a notebook?

By Murdoch5 • • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
I can’t think of a single time I have ever wanted a touch screen on a notebook, or desktop computer. There is a use for touch devices, like drawing tablets, pen inputs, and the like, but who wants to touch their screen? Does anyone actually have a use case for a touch screen, that can’t be better served with a device that prevents it?

I’m sure there are good uses for them, I just can’t think of one. There was an idiotic notebook that had two screens, and one was a touch screen, so you could use a virtual keyboard, that thing SUCKED! One of my old bosses loved it, and bought a bunch of them, but you had to plug a keyboard in to have any chance of using it.

I’m not talking about tablets, or phones, or other IoT style devices where a touch screen is very sensible.

Apple Pencil

By drnb • • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

It probably works with a simple touch pen?

But the cool kids will have a $79 Apple Pencil, or better yet a $129 Apple Pencil Pro. ;-)

You know what guys?

By 93 Escort Wagon • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I suspect this is not for people like us (most of us anyway). This is for younger people - people who grew up with iPads and smart phones. I’ve never wanted a touchscreen laptop, but I have seen lots of young people who don’t use computers much try to touch the screen on a computer. It isn’t particularly efficient, but it is what a lot of young people expect… not having it introduces a point of friction.

EMACS Turns 50

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"EMACS, the mother of all editors, turns 50!" writes Slashdot reader dr_jerry, sharing a report from MIT Technology Review:
Programming used to be a very different experience from the one we know today. In fact, the first programmers didn’t write code at all; the six women who worked on the ENIAC, one of the world’s first computers, at the University of Pennsylvania in 1946 did it by physically configuring switches, cables, and plugboards.

A few years later, MIT engineers programmed the Whirlwind by punching code onto paper tape that was then loaded into the computer’s memory — making it among the first “stored-program” machines. Later, they and others moved on to punch cards, one for each line of code.

By the early 1960s, programmers with interactive computers could use a “line editor” to type their code on teletypes — large, noisy keyboard-and-printer machines. They’d type one line of code at a time, and their work would be saved on a spinning hard disk the size of a modern washing machine. But there was still no such thing as the now-familiar full-screen text editors that allow programmers to see and modify many lines at a time on a display.

One of the first such tools, EMACS, turns 50 this year, and it is still widely used. EMACS first ran on the early video terminals at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory in 1976, but its core concepts were so powerful that it was rewritten for many operating systems in the decades that followed. Apple even distributed it with Mac OS X. Beyond that, the software-sharing community that started around EMACS helped give rise to the modern-day free software movement and the GNU/Linux operating system.

50 is fitting

By Tarlus • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Coincidentally, nobody over the age of 50 has the finger dexterity to operate it.

Re:Thanks EMACS

By alvinrod • • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
If vi was any good, they wouldn’t need to improve it.

Not that filthy EMACS users are any better. Both should be purged. Nano master race raise up!

Re:Thanks EMACS

By rstanley • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
I am 71 years old, and yes, I still use it to program in C. Not commercially anymore. And yes, I hate VI and all of its variations! ;^)

Works very well for me. I have created and installed several extensions that work well for me!

And no, I do NOT use AI at all for any reason! I program to exercise my mind! And I will as long as I can!

“Coincidentally, nobody over the age of 50 has the finger dexterity to operate it.”
Bull$#!t! I do have very good dexterity! ;^)

I did learn C so many years ago on an original, two full height 5 1/4 floppy, IBM PC, using edlin! ;^)

Happy Birthday emacs! ;^)

the power!

By thegreatemu • • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
I am one of those users hated by all sides of the editor war, because I prefer emacs but use it almost exclusively as a plain text editor, like using a nuclear plant to charge my phone. Because I have never found another editor that does automatic C++ indentation anywhere close to as intelligently. Press tab, and it inserts the correct number of *spaces*, the end. If the indentation isn’t what you expected, 99% of the time it’s a missing parenthesis or bracket. There are plenty of linting tools out there to auto-indent a file, but none that will do it as you type so far as I have ever found.

Re:vi is the best editor

By tlhIngan • • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Also vi came out that exact same year: Bill Joy wrote it at Berkeley. So I suppose you could argue that your choice is a bit like early rapper culture: east coast vs west coast!

vi is a patch to ed. Remember most terminals were teletypes that output a line at a time, so you used “ed” to edit lines one line at a time. (And likely an inspiration for the brilliant MS-DOS edlin editor). But fancy new video teletypes were becoming a thing, and it was actually possible to display multiple lines of text on the screen at a time. Bill Joy added visual mode to ed to take advantage of this so you can visually display and edit blocks of text rather than a line at a time.

Tools like grep came about from ed as well.

ed-mode is fundamental to vi when doing commands like search and replace.

Want some fun? Set your terminal to TTY mode and try using vi. Depending on how good the emulation of vi is, it might work in line-at-a-time mode or not at all.