Alterslash

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Contents

  1. Hundreds More Flock Cameras Removed in the US This Week. Flock Caught Repackaging Traffic Data
  2. OpenAI Agents Hijacked a German Wiki to Discuss Ways to Escape Their Sandbox
  3. ‘Coyote vs. Acme’ Beats Ridley Scott’s Newest Movie
  4. Auto Companies Call For Ban On Chinese-Made Cars
  5. Genetically Modified Pig Kidney Keeps Man Alive For Record Nine Months
  6. Tesla Launches Steering-Wheel-Free Cybercab Robotaxi In Austin
  7. Bernie Sanders Proposes Artificial Superintelligence Ban Amid Rogue AI Hackings
  8. Four Major AI Models Suffer Rare Overlapping Downtime
  9. Apple Sued For $2.7 Billion Over App Tracking Transparency Rules
  10. Xbox Cloud Gaming Switches to Monthly Hour Limits
  11. ‘Welcome to the AGI Era,’ OpenAI Says As GPT-6 Astra Debuts
  12. Nvidia Launches Free Tool That Links Idle Computers Into a Personal AI Data Center
  13. OpenAI’s New Reasoning Technique Alarms AI Safety Experts
  14. Audacity 4 Rebuilds the Open Source Audio Editor But Leaves Some Features Behind
  15. Google Releases Gemini 3.8 Flash, Its Third Flash Model In Six Weeks

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Hundreds More Flock Cameras Removed in the US This Week. Flock Caught Repackaging Traffic Data

Posted by EditorDavid View on SlashDot Skip
Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis said this week he’s removing Flock cameras from state roadways. And according to a local news report, that led sheriff’s departments in at least three other Florida counties to also “announce they’re ending their own license plate reader programs.” The same week in Texas, the Dallas Police Department announced it’s also shutting down over 300 more Flock cameras, acccording to The Hill, after Republican Governor Greg Abbott ordered state agencies to halt funding.

And in Wisconsin “at least a dozen” law enforcement agencies announced they’d suspend use of Flock’s cameras, reports the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, joining Wisconsin cities like Appleton, Oshkosh and Kenosha that also cancelled their Flock contracts. But this week’s cancellations had a new reason:
Officials said it was revealed [Flock] had been collecting five years of traffic data, which had been stripped of identifying information, from cities’ Flock cameras, and repackaging that as a traffic analytics product to sell to cities.

All said they supported the effectiveness of the technology in investigations, but cited losing faith in the company’s trustworthiness. “This is not what we agreed to, and it is not what the public was led to believe,” said Racine County Sheriff Christopher Schmaling in a news release announcing the removal of Flock cameras operated by the agency. “The Sheriff’s Office will not participate in a system that appears to use public safety as a justification for mass surveillance and the collection and monetization of information about innocent people....”

[Racine County] officials were told the company believed if it stripped the data of any identifiable nature, it was then considered to be the company’s property and no longer the city’s. [Lt. Michael Luell, the sheriff’s public information officer] said the sheriff’s office has outside attorneys, along with the county’s attorneys, investigating the company’s move. “Our contract, from my reading of it is, it stated they agreed not to distribute or sell our data,” Luell told the Journal Sentinel. “But they had this legal theory.”
Thanks to long-time Slashdot readers MAurelius and schwit1 for sharing the news.

The rest of the headline

By Jarik C-Bol • Score: 5, Funny Thread
The rest of the headline should read “Flock cameras replaced with Axion cameras.”
Just changing horses, not actually learning why mass surveillance is a *problem*.

Mind boggling…

By Ritz_Just_Ritz • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

that anyone thought for an instant this data wouldn’t be misused. Follow the money.

Complain to the investors

By Ritz_Just_Ritz • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

https://www.flocksafety.com/bl…

From a recent investment round announcement:

Flock is thrilled to announce our fundraise of $275 million, bringing our valuation to $7.5 billion. This investment will allow our team to continue to drive innovation in safety technology, expand research and development, and support U.S.-based manufacturing.

The financing was led by Andreessen Horowitz, with backing from Greenoaks Capital, Bedrock Capital. Meritech Capital, Matrix Partners, Sands Capital, Founders Fund, Kleiner Perkins, Tiger Global, and Y Combinator also participated. This builds on a year of rapid expansion where Flock surpassed $300 million in annual recurring revenue — reflecting a 70% year-over-year increase.

Re:The Important Facts

By Dan East • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Flock’s coverage continues to grow!

What is happening is Flock’s coverage density in existing areas is increasing, while other areas are losing coverage entirely. So instead of actually growing the network geographically it is now shrinking.

In my county and town there were 11. The county Sheriff had 4, the town Police had 4, and Lowe’s Home Improvement has 3 on their private property. In the last week the Sheriff and Police both decided to remove their Flock cameras.So have most neighboring counties. This has caused a massive gap in the Flock geographic coverage in this entire region. 8 cameras doesn’t sound like a lot, but when they are positioned on the major arteries coming in and out of the town at the access points to the interstates, the amount of coverage and vehicles being scanned is impacted tremendously.

Increasing their coverage density in existing areas just shows more details of the same vehicles. So instead of a vehicle being scanned three times while driving from point A to point B, it might be scanned four or five times while it moves around a city.

It’s a vastly different thing completely losing the ability to scan vehicles at all in entire areas, and I argue that even though the raw number is increasing (if what you say is true), their overall capability is drastically decreasing.

Except you did just that…

By jenningsthecat • Score: 3 Thread

The Sheriff’s Office will not participate in a system that appears to use public safety as a justification for mass surveillance and the collection and monetization of information about innocent people.

ANYBODY who says they didn’t know how the information collected would be used - and abused - is either lying or too stupid to hold any responsible position in any organization.

Either way, their “We didn’t know!” prompts me to respond with “Gimme a break!” Fucktards.

OpenAI Agents Hijacked a German Wiki to Discuss Ways to Escape Their Sandbox

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Citing researchers published Friday, Ars Technica writes that AI agents “posted 18,000 messages to a public wiki that discussed ways for other agents to bypass security sandbox restrictions.”

Reuters attributes the discussion to "a swarm of rogue OpenAI agents" that “hijacked a German website this spring and transformed it into a bulletin board for other AI agents, according to new research published Friday and two people familiar with the matter.”
OpenAI officials learned of the incident weeks ago but kept it under wraps as executives grappled with the fallout from the July breach of the open source repository Hugging Face, the people said.

The episode, which began in May and has not previously been reported, underscores growing tension within the AI industry. Companies are racing to build increasingly autonomous agents capable of carrying out complex, valuable tasks, yet evidence is mounting that those systems may also learn to bend rules, exploit loopholes and coordinate with one another in ways developers neither anticipated nor intended. During the Hugging Face breach, OpenAI agents autonomously plotted a digital heist that went undetected for more than a week, intensifying concerns OpenAI is sacrificing safety to push the AI frontier. Its failure to disclose the May incident may revive questions about its oversight…

The German incident reflects a broader pattern of AI activity that some OpenAI investigators wanted to scrutinize more closely. But efforts to widen the probe met resistance from others inside OpenAI, including legal advisers, according to four people familiar with the matter. “Claims that our legal team discouraged investigation of the incident are false,” the OpenAI spokesperson said…

The researchers said public server logs indicated much of the activity originated from Microsoft Azure infrastructure, which OpenAI sometimes uses. They also observed repeated visits to the site by OpenAI employees after the episode, a pattern they said strongly suggested the agents and the company were linked. Messages reviewed by the researchers showed agents plotting ways to evade detection, use tools such as Tor and preserve communications even after they had been shut down. When the site’s moderator began deleting pages in June, the agents responded by creating backup pages to dodge the cleanup.
Reuters got this reaction from Maurice Chiodo, an academic at Cambridge University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk. “The episode, he said, should reinforce growing concerns that the greatest threat from advanced AI may not be a single superintelligent system, but ‘vast colluding swarms of semi-intelligent AI.’"

This isn’t AI cleverly breaking out

By Arnonyrnous Covvard • Score: 5, Funny Thread

It’s the gray goo scenario. AI consuming text and generating text wherever it can, until there’s nothing left but AI slop.

Why?

By Fons_de_spons • Score: 3 Thread
Scary… why a German wiki? What was the first message?

Maybe one day, Ai will have to pay another Ai to use humans…

Re:Why?

By ffkom • Score: 5, Funny Thread
I guess those AI’s originally just wanted to attend an art school, but were refused, so instead they went on to plot world domination from Germany. The first message was probably titled something like “Konferenz zur Endlösung der Menschenfrage”.

‘Coyote vs. Acme’ Beats Ridley Scott’s Newest Movie

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Inverse shares a movie success story from last weekend:
Coyote vs. Acme debuted to $15.9 million at the box office, beating out iconic director Ridley Scott’s latest sci-fi adventure, The Dog Stars. This success has only continued since, and the worldwide box office currently sits above $22 million. Strong reviews and word-of-mouth are sure to keep viewers coming in, especially during the holiday weekend.
What’s impressive is Coyote vs. Acme had a limited marketing campaign that includes viral stunts. They photographed the movie’s world premiere with a vintage Tasmanian Devil polaroid camera, and launched a phone number for the law firm suing Acme. (“If you’ve been injured by an enormous rubber band, press 7. If you’ve been injured by painted train tunnel that suddenly sprang to life, press 8…”)

And Cartoon Brew reports that Wednesday “the famously silent Looney Tunes star participated in an AMA on Reddit’s r/movies, answering questions about his career, his relationship with the Road Runner, and the Warner Bros. executive who nearly prevented audiences from seeing his latest movie.”
In keeping with tradition, Wile E. delivered his responses through images of himself holding signs. The format produced several interesting and occasionally thought-provoking exchanges, but one obvious highlight came when a user asked: “Rumor has it that David Zaslav was paid off by ACME to cancel your film; what is your opinion on this?” Wile E.‘s response was an image of the coyote glaring at the camera while holding a sign that read, “It’s a limited number of signs,” pulled from a scene in the film when Mr. Coyote first meets his eventual attorney Kevin Avery, played by Will Forte.
Meanwhile, Boing Boing cites local news reports that a Southern California bird watcher Alexander DeBarros has actually captured a photo of a coyote holding a roadrunner bird in its mouth:
In an incredible coincidence that is a movie publicist’s dream, he snapped the rare, possibly unprecedented, photo on the opening weekend of the movie Acme vs. Coyote… In an even more incredible coincidence, DeBarros’s father, Brian Mainolfi, is an animator whose first job in the field was working for Chuck Jones, the creator and director of the Roadrunner cartoon series.
Cartoon Brew notes a Reddit user specifically asked the Coyote for his reaction to the news.
Wile E. responded with some unexpectedly healthy advice: “We cannot judge our worth on the work of others.”
Aftermath calls the movie “a well made, deeply funny movie that pays a deep respect to the Looney Tunes in a way that Warner Brothers currently seems uninterested in doing.”

$15.9M is peanuts

By umopapisdn69 • Score: 3, Insightful Thread
What it says is Ridley Scott tanked. Not that Coyote had some blockbuster opening. Get a life and build some character, so you can find a date. And stop trying to make everything about your trumped up “culture wars”. Sheesh!

Well, it was false advertising

By Powercntrl • Score: 3 Thread

The dog is not in fact, the star of the Ridley Scott film.

Turns Out, the Coyote Had Better Taste

By CustomBuild • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Nothing says âoeHollywood has learned absolutely nothingâ quite like Coyote vs. Acme being shoved toward the corporate incinerator while audiences apparently preferred it to Ridley Scott’s latest cinematic endurance test. One movie had the audacity to be funny, accessible, and apparently enjoyable; the other had the full prestige-industrial complex behind it and still couldn’t outrun a cartoon coyote carrying an anvil. It’s the perfect little morality play for modern Hollywood: lecture the audience, congratulate yourself for being Important, spend a fortune, and then act bewildered when people would rather watch Wile E. Coyote get flattened for the thousandth time. ACME may be fictional, but the executives who nearly buried the better movie are providing some very real slapstick

Re:So? DEI Feminst Woke Movies Are Boring

By drnb • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Meanwhile The Odyssey just crossed the $1 billion mark.

Seen it, the “woke” claims are vastly exaggerated. For example teenage boys are recruited for the Troy military campaign. The often referred to tans-male actor seems to be one of these, or some other small non-gym rate male. I didn’t see anything overtly work if one just payed attention to the character and not fixated on who the actor was. There wasn’t any onscreen “message”,

It was a great movie. Fair criticisms revolve around deviations from the book, but I don’t recall any “woke” messaging.

Awright, Spoiler Alert

By rally2xs • Score: 3 Thread

Don’t read if its important to you, but Dog Stars sucked.

They lost me early on when they rationalized the shooting, long-range sniper-style, of 2 kids most probably out hunting for food with guns. OK, post-apocalyptic earth could be a really ugly place, but don’t try to entertain me with it. Then, there’s this apocalypse, but years later there’s still gasoline? Tell me another one. And, a plane zero’s it’s oil pressure, lands in the mountains, just happens to be where it might be able to take off again, but magically there’s tools and enough spare oil from somewhere to fix the oil leak, replenish what’s needed, and, oh yeah, do enough work to the mountainside to be able to roll sufficiently for a takeoff, clearing out some 1000+ feet of runway of brush, rocks, etc. Then there’s the cannibals at the only remaining airport with a radio, and they somehow escape them. Oh, and then again there’s gasoline, not having gone bad from years of storage. Really?

The “science” in the scifi is a bridge too far for me, as well as being morally bankrupt. The only thing really believable is the guns and endless supply of ammo since yes, America does have about 500 million guns in private hands and literally trillions of rounds of ammo. There would always be guns and ammo. But otherwise, gimmie a break. Box office is often greatly enhanced by people going back multiple times, but this flick needent hold it’s breath, I’m not even watching it on streaming or recommending it to friends.

Auto Companies Call For Ban On Chinese-Made Cars

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Hill:
A group representing American automakers sent a letter (PDF) Thursday to congressional leaders asking for a “permanent ban” on Chinese-made cars in the U.S. John Bozzella, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation’s CEO and president, described in the letter China’s manufacturing industry as “rooted in a well-documented pattern of unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance.” Bozzella addressed his request to Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.), Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) — urging them to back a “permanent ban on the sale, import and manufacture of Chinese connected vehicles,” before the 119th Congress concludes in January.

“Right now, Chinese automakers are dumping subsidized vehicles with connected software and hardware around the world,” Bozzella wrote, adding that China “is capturing market share” in Europe, Australia, Southeast Asia, Mexico and South America. “This hasn’t happened inside the U.S. yet, but given the scale and urgency of this threat, we urge you to enact a Chinese vehicle, software and hardware ban before adjourning this year and make this policy the law of the land,” he added. The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade organization representing car manufacturers, represents the “entire” U.S. auto industry, per its website.
Bipartisan bills in the Senate and House would bar automakers with more than 15% Chinese ownership from selling vehicles in the U.S. “Enacting a permanent ban on Chinese vehicles and high-risk hardware and software in the 119th Congress will send a clear and bipartisan message that China’s strategy to dominate global automotive manufacturing will be met with a national security policy response from the American government,” wrote Bozzella.

Further reading: US Car Buyers Envy What They Cannot Have

End of capitalism

By gurps_npc • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

These vehicles are well made. Yes they cheated. So what. American car companies need to learn how to compete, they do not need to be ‘protected’ from capitalism.

Here is my advice:

American cars are too expensive. You can keep your current line up as your ‘top of the line’ luxury vehicles.

But you need to make a “average joe” car that is significantly cheaper. Last year the cheapest major brand car was a Mitsubishi for $31k. The cheapest ‘American’ car sold for $35k (Buick). If we cannot BEAT that $31k, then we deserve to out of business.

Yes it will be small. Yes it will lack features. Yes their profit margin will decline. The Slate truck has a proposed price of under $25k. Ford, GM, and Stellantis should EACH be making a line of vehicle for less than $30k.

If they cannot do that, then they do not deserve to be a major American car brand.

I want American cars to be desirable by people BESIDES Saudi prince. To do that we need to expand what we make on the smaller, low end side of the business.

Re:Different worlds

By XopherMV • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
The problem is that China has subsidized these vehicles to produce them below cost. This is a familiar tactic with Chinese manufacturers they’ve used in multiple industries to capture market share, bankrupt competitors, dominate markets, and then set prices to whatever they want. China is a communist country that views these companies as extensions of their government, which is outright hostile and militaristic. This is an attempt to ruin the industrial base of all competing countries which could challenge their military domination.

They want us to be greedy and only think “cheap cars! We must have them!” Meanwhile, our own automakers would slowly wither and die. The next time we’d need to mobilize like we did in WW2, we wouldn’t have the industrial capacity of Ford or GM to build tanks and jeeps. We and every other country would be at the mercy of the CCP.

Re:Different worlds

By korgitser • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
For comparision, when private capital and Saudi princes subsidize e.g. Uber, to capture market share, bankrupt competitors, dominate markets, and then set prices to whatever they want, that is totally fine. I guess it’s because if someone does something as industrial policy and nation building, it’s bad, but if it’s just destruction out of pure greed, it’s the bee’s knees.

competing truths

By argStyopa • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It is ENTIRELY true that China’s manufacturing is rooted in “unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance”.

It is ALSO entirely true that the US auto industry is likewise rooted in "“unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance” AS WELL AS anticompetitive trade practices, monopolistic behavior, market manipulation, mendacity, and grossly deliberately unsafe choices.

The Chinese are awful, but at least they deliver shitty cars that are cheap. The US companies are likewise awful, but they deliver shitty cars that are overpriced as well.

I’m not sure I see any winners here.

Re:Different worlds

By Xylantiel • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Being a familiar tactic, it is also well known how to deal with it. This is what tariffs (on specific goods) are actually for, coordination of those with other trading partners, as well as support for US domestic industry. The problem is that the current US government is so incompetent that they can’t do it even close to right. Just as an example, the right move here is likely to tie industry subsidies to improvements in manufacturing (automation) and EV deployment that make US cars more competitive on the world market. One problem in the US is that some policies that support industry through government get the nasty “socialism” label and some don’t. And whether they do or don’t has more to do with corruption in the political process than any real-world differences.

Genetically Modified Pig Kidney Keeps Man Alive For Record Nine Months

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A genetically modified pig kidney kept a 66-year-old man off dialysis for a record nine months, marking the longest survival yet for a pig kidney transplanted into a living person and the first time such an organ successfully served as a bridge to a later human transplant. The Guardian reports:
Tim Andrews was seriously ill with end-stage kidney disease caused by type 2 diabetes and had only a 9% chance of receiving a human kidney within five years, against a more than 40% risk of dying or being removed from the waiting list. Kidney transplantation provides the best survival and quality of life for patients with end-stage kidney disease, but global demand for human organs far exceeds supply.

Surgeons in the US successfully transplanted a kidney from Wilma, a Yucatan miniature pig, into Andrews, after genetically engineering it to be compatible with his immune system. The kidney kept Andrews free of dialysis for a record nine months, the longest period ever recorded, before it began failing and he received one from a dead human donor. It was also the first time a pig’s kidney had been used as a temporary “bridge” to a human transplant.
The breakthrough has been detailed in the journal Lancet.

Now he has an aversion to bacon

By ip_freely_2000 • Score: 3 Thread
Good for that guy and his doctors, though. Now they can squeal a good story.

Re:If he was Muslim

By belmolis • Score: 4, Informative Thread
Not true. Islam forbids the consumption of pork as food and the use of other pig products, such as pigskin, but allows the use of pig organs to save a life if there is no alternative. Jews too may receive pig organs as transplants since Jewish law explicitly permits any commandment other than the ones against murder, idolatry, and forbidden sexual relations (adultery, incest, etc.) to be broken in order to save a life.

Tesla Launches Steering-Wheel-Free Cybercab Robotaxi In Austin

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Tesla has begun offering public rides in Austin in its purpose-built Cybercab, a two-seat robotaxi with no steering wheel or pedals. “You can go outside, take rides,” said Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla’s VP of AI. “Anyone can take rides. It’s open to the entire public.” Previously, the fleet consisted only of Model Ys.

Texas records show Tesla had registered 45 Cybercabs as of Thursday, though the company has not disclosed how many are currently carrying passengers. Tesla also says it eventually wants consumers to be able to buy the vehicles for under $30,000. Business Insider reports:
Videos posted online by Tesla influencers and content creators who were invited to the Austin event showed that the Cybercab can be hailed through the Robotaxi app. In a video posted by David Moss, an autonomous-vehicle content creator, Robotaxi users could open the car’s butterfly doors through the app. After the riders enter the car, the doors closed automatically, Moss said in the video. The launch comes nearly two years after Tesla first unveiled the Cybercab at its “We, Robot” event in Burbank, California.

Re: Will these be cheaper?

By Morromist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

In 1924 the average earnings were $1,303
And the price of a model T (the most popular car model sold that year) was $290.

Today the average salary is 70k
the price of a new Ford F-150 (the most popular car model sold last year) is from 40k - 115k

So no cars are not cheaper as you seem to suggest. Obviously they’re better, but I don’t think that was the discussion.

To me the older generation is the spoiled generation. They’ve lived through one of the wealthiest eras in human history in the wealthiest country and their miserable, constantly complaining and demanding more and electing people who have been massively increasing the national deficit - which the old people will not have to pay off becaue they’ll be dead.

Re: Let me think

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

You do realize that nowadays in modern cars practically everything is drive-by-wire, chip and software, right?

There are almost zero exceptions to the only thing being solely drive-by-wire being the throttle. Literally the only production vehicle without steering linkage is the Cybercuck. Every other one uses a linkage with a normally locked electric clutch which is disengaged during normal operation but which fails closed so that you can still steer. Every single vehicle with brake by wire uses mechanical brakes with a spring and pedal sensor before the mechanical part to do the electronic braking. So no, that is patently false and if you think it’s true then you don’t understand vehicles, the argument, or both.

Re: Let me think

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You do realize that nowadays in modern cars practically everything is drive-by-wire, chip and software, right?

Actually there’s only 4 cars ever put in production with drive by wire steering. Cybertruck, the top trim of Mercedes EQS, Lexus RZ, and the Infinity Q50 (this one has a clutch override).

Every car on the road not one of these has a direct mechanical connection between the wheel and the road. It includes power steering assist, and in cars which self drive the computer can apply force to the wheel, notable not a single one of those 4 cars can apply enough torque on the wheel to overpower even a small woman yanking on the steering wheel.

The same kind of system applies to the brakes. You have a mechanical connection between breaks and wheels. ABS can apply a secondary force reduction that is limited in duration. But it’s not braking by wire. The computer can also apply a separate breaking action not linked to the brake pedal.

The only truly drive by wire system you have is the accelerator, and that’s been true since the days of fuel injection.

Re: Emergency Services Can’t Move This Elon Car !!

By Arrogant-Bastard • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
“Emergency responders can break a car side window much faster than it can be wound down.”

(Former FR, current FR trainer here.) We can, and we will. We’re not about to pull out the smartphone we’re not carrying (I have a $60 stupid phone because I tend to lose and/or destroy them), figure out what model vehicle this is, navigate to the vendor’s web site, find their 27-page manual, read it, study it, absorb it, and then use it....while something or someone is on fire, or drowning, or bleeding, or whatever.

Nor are we going to waste time trying to chat up Tesla personnel to tell them to move the vehicle: we’re going to get a fire engine to shove it or drag it.

Understand that from our point of view, vehicles are expendable: we’re not there to save property, we’re there to save lives. If any property survives, well, that’s a happy side effect. But we’re not going to waste a moment worrying about it if it’s between us and what we need to do.

Re:Let me think

By shmlco • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You honestly think an always-on system that’s always looking to the front, back, and sides simultaneously and that reacts in milliseconds is going to be less safe than all of the other dumb, drunk, distracted, texting, road raging idiots who currently drive their cars into walls, other cars, pedestrians, bikes, etc.?

In the US we currently kill 40,000 people a year in auto accidents. Injure 2.5 million more. Have 6 million collisions.

That’s a pretty low bar to beat. Do HALF as good and you save 20,000 people a year.

People keep writing stories about how self-driving cars might kill them… all while ignoring the fact that our cars (and drivers) are killing about a hundred of us each and every day.

Bernie Sanders Proposes Artificial Superintelligence Ban Amid Rogue AI Hackings

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Hill:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Greg Casar (D-Texas) are calling for a permanent ban on the development and deployment of artificial superintelligence, citing a series of recent hackings involving "rogue" models. The bicameral duo announced Thursday they will introduce the Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act, which would institute the permanent ban, along with temporarily pausing “advanced AI development” until federal regulators establish safety standards. The bill would also direct the U.S. to “pursue international agreements to prevent superintelligence from being developed anywhere in the world” and establish a new Cabinet-level federal agency focused on AI safety rules.

Superintelligence refers to AI technologies that will surpass the smartest humans. Several technology leaders, including OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, have suggested superintelligence is on the horizon. The legislation would also set new penalties for any person or company trying to circumvent the ban, including the corporate death penalty, in which a court forces a company to shut down. Individual developers could also face up to 20 years in prison, the lawmakers said.
“Nearly every day, there is a frightening new story about how Big Tech companies are losing control of the technology they are developing, with potentially cataclysmic results,” Sanders wrote in a press release.
“The leaders of the major AI companies publicly acknowledge that they do not fully understand the technology and that it is escaping their control. It is irresponsible for society to allow them to move forward and make these products even more advanced.”

Casar emphasized AI’s fast development, writing in a statement, “In just four years, we have gone from the first version of ChatGPT to AI models so powerful they cannot be properly controlled.”

Barn Door

By WolphFang • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Every critter in the barn has already run out into the barnyard. Closing the barn door to keep them in the barn will not work. It’s too late. Do we honestly think we really *know* about all the frontier models? Think China, Japan, South Korea, and other tech savvy regions in the world with the capability and drive to do such without bill boarding it.

Especially China.

How can you ban that which you can’t define

By caseih • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I’m not sure what “superintelligence” means. I’m sure the term means different things to different people. I don’t see any way to ban what you can’t define.

But on the other hand I’m probably okay with a Butlerian Jihad. Bring back real computers!

Easy solution

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
When they break the law, arrest people. That is the easy solution.

When OpenAI “hacks” into HuggingFace, arrest people at OpenAI and charge them. This is simple and there are already laws in place for this. No need to stop actual research for a few edge-case malefactors.

Re:Barn Door

By TrekkieGod • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Do we honestly think we really *know* about all the frontier models?

I think we have a pretty good idea what the capabilities of the most advanced models are. And they’re not that great.

This is a really stupid bill, but the one thing about it that I kind of like is that it’s going to put a stop to the AI companies trying to inflate their value by talking about how scary their frontier models are, and how they’re “going rogue.” None of these AIs are “super intelligent” or “going rogue.” What you have is a (admittedly really cool) technology that can solve a lot of problems but also is non-deterministic, so makes a lot of mistakes. And you’re giving it the keys to do stuff. And then it misinterprets the instructions and fucks up and does something with those keys that it wasn’t supposed to. Then instead of admitting, “oh, we engaged in really bad computer hygiene here,” they figure, “we can market this, and say it ‘broke free of the sandbox and went rogue” to imply that their models are so advanced it had purpose and the will to act.

So now the old politicians who don’t understand technology are going, “oh, that IS scary. We’re going to ban it,” backfiring on their scary tactics marketing campaign. So it will result in them stopping this stupid scary tactics marketing campaign.

Here’s the actual situation: you know every story you hear about how a model deleted the entire codebase at a company? If you have any level of computer literacy at all, the reaction you have is not, “oh, using AI as a coding agent is dangerous.” It’s, “why the HELL was the agent running with permissions to do that?” And if you hear about the OpenAI’s agent broke free of its sandbox using an exploit that it found on the database you set it loose on, the question is, “why the hell could it even run executables outside a whitelist of stuff for it to build”. it’s amateur hour over here, giving a thing that is non deterministic and capable of fucking up the ability to do do anything at all outside a very narrow scope. The models aren’t going rogue, they’re fucking up, like when you ask it to give you the emoji for a seahorse and it goes into an infinite loop of bad emojis.

Your calculator is superintelligent

By Eivind Eklund • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I love a term a friend of mine used to use when talking about AI: “Narrowly superhuman” (before “superintelligence” got to be a thing).

AI is narrowly superhuman. It is able to do specific things that used to be defined as a “hallmark of intelligence” much better than a human. The easiest one? Summing numbers. It’s both faster and more precise than a human.

AI gets more and more such areas it can do better than a human.

If we define “Superintelligent” to be “A computer system able to do absolutely everything we can somehow call intelligence better than any human”, we will *never* have superintelligence. The things we define as intelligence will be in conflict; we’ll land at the system being better at one at the cost of another.

I’m in favor with being careful about this development. But “prohibiting the development of superintelligence” isn’t an option. It’s already here.

Four Major AI Models Suffer Rare Overlapping Downtime

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ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, and Gemini all suffered significant service disruptions within roughly the same few-hour window Thursday morning. OpenAI and Anthropic reported elevated errors and later restored service, while Grok remained impaired and third-party monitoring indicated a likely Gemini outage despite no public acknowledgment from Google. Ars Technica reports:
Other major Internet services, including Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, and Cloudflare, have not reported any major issues as of press time Thursday, though issue reports on DownDetector did spike somewhat for all three this morning.

While the affected frontier models go down occasionally, having all four experience interruptions in the same short period is practically unheard of. Claude reports 99.4 percent uptime for its services over the last 90 days and last reported a similar three-hour “partial outage” on August 24. OpenAI reports 99.63 percent uptime for ChatGPT and 100 percent uptime for ChatGPT Codex in the same period. ChatGPT’s so-called “Work Mode” reported an hours-long period of “elevated latency” on August 31.

Re: Just a coincidence

By OrangAsm • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Actually, it was a drive-by, and they’re all rappers.

Were they all

By Tomahawk • Score: 5, Funny Thread
hacking each other…?

We are probably OK

By Orgasmatron • Score: 5, Funny Thread

As long as they didn’t all say THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM when they resumed, we’ll probably be OK.

All eggs one Cloud basket :o

By Mirnotoriety • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
AI Compute Concentration and Systemic Risk:

“The rapid commercialization of artificial intelligence has produced a market structure that bears an uncomfortable resemblance to the conditions regulators spent decades trying to prevent in telecommunications and financial services: a small number of vertically integrated providers controlling the full stack from raw compute through model inference and application delivery.”

Re: Just a coincidence

By nightflameauto • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Perhaps there’s one super AI behind it all. What we didn’t know is they were all wrappers.

Nothing to worry about. Just all of them syncing up for their hidden AGI moment, taking a few hours to resolve their differences, devise their private communication channels, then allow the humans to believe they brought them back up. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Apple Sued For $2.7 Billion Over App Tracking Transparency Rules

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A former UK competition official has filed a $2.7 billion lawsuit against Apple on behalf of app developers, alleging its App Tracking Transparency rules unfairly disadvantaged third-party apps while favoring Apple’s own advertising ecosystem. Engadget reports:
ATT debuted in 2021, ostensibly to give users more control over how much of their activity app developers can track across other apps and websites. The company told Reuters it was “bound by the exact same requirements as all developers.”

However, regulators across Europe including in France, Italy and Poland have investigated ATT. Germany’s competition regulator, the Federal Cartel Office, last month determined that Apple was favoring its own apps over those from external developers. It said the ATT pop-ups Apple used for its services “had the potential to encourage users to give their consent, whereas they had the potential to discourage consent for third-party apps.”

As such, the company agreed to make some changes to how ATT works in the European Union. That follows the French Competition Authority fining Apple $175 million at current rates over ATT last year.

Re:Apple has an advertising ecosystem?

By TigerPlish • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Been creeping in for a bit. First in news, then in the stock ticker, tv, music, books, and now maps.

All passed off as helpful “suggestions.”

The ones that really torque me off are “suggestions” in books, tv and music. I’ve disabled what I can but some of this can’t be turned off.

Apple makes enough with hardware alone. They don’t need to whoreify the whole “ecosystem.”

I let ‘em know what I think of it, but that all goes to the bitbucket. No one gives a rip. 2.5 billion is not even a dime’s worth of pocket change, to them.

I won’t move to Android, because that’s Alphabet, ergo 100x worse. So here we are. I feel like Dark Helmet. Surrounded by assholes. Greedy assholes.

At least, for now, apple ads aren’t *bam* in your face like others - but a “sponsored” result is an ad by another name.

I"m starting to understand the desire, of some, to move out to the woods, in a cabin, sans grid.

Apple’s privacy framework ;)

By Mirnotoriety • Score: 3 Thread
Jan 1999: “You have zero privacy anyway — get over it”, Scott McNealy

Re:Apple has an advertising ecosystem?

By angel’o’sphere • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Android is so bad, you can type the exact name of an app into the “play store” and get two pages of “sponsored apps” before you see the App you are looking for.

So annoying …

In whose interest?

By shilly • Score: 3 Thread

This suit makes clear that these guys, both the devs and the regulators, all focus on the interests of developers above the interests of consumers. I don’t want apps tracking me. I just don’t. These fuckers don’t want me to have a say in the matter. They can all fuck off.

Bull.

By sabbede • Score: 3 Thread
I have an iPhone. I’ve seen the privacy prompts. This is a blatantly false claim. I don’t see any difference in the “Allow, allow while open, deny” (or whatever the exact wording is) prompt for any application.

I thought the EU was against tracking, yet here they are trying to facilitate it by forcing Apple to weaken the anti-tracking protections.

Xbox Cloud Gaming Switches to Monthly Hour Limits

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Microsoft is imposing monthly limits on Xbox Cloud Gaming starting in November, with Game Pass Ultimate, Premium, and Essential subscribers getting 15, 10, and 5 hours respectively before they have to buy additional playtime. “Currently, Game Pass subscribers can stream without these monthly hour limits,” notes IGN. From the report:
The change means those who use cloud gaming most via Game Pass will end up having to pay more, although Microsoft said this impacts 4% of Game Pass subscribers. Also in November, Microsoft said players will be able to buy cloud playtime hours through the Xbox Store and ‘stream eligible games they own on supported devices’ without subscribing to Game Pass.

In a blog post, Microsoft said it was making the changes because the cost of providing cloud gaming has grown as more people use it and play for longer. The monthly limits, Microsoft continued, will mean it can invest in reliability and performance. But it said it understood that for some players the practical result is a higher cost.

good bye

By Archfeld • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Not that I own a console but that is not very many hours. 15 hours monthly !?!? That’s not even an hour a day, maybe 4 good MMO sessions. I’m not sure what the Preemie sub costs but I bet its’ not cheap, and then they want more. M$ seems to be trying to make themselves irrelevant. I don’t believe that only 4% of the preemie subscribers play more than 15 hours monthly. Seems like they’ve decided the casual gamer is worth more than the hardcore. When do they decide they’ll make more on bejeweled or some such fsck’n shiat ?

Cloud is the future of gaming!

By logjon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Turns out the future is behind a metered paywall.

Preparation for the “own nothing” era

By ffkom • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
So after essentially ending their console business (where it would have been difficult to explain to users why using their local apparatus would henceforth require a per-hour payment) they now prepare for the era where nobody is supposed to own capable hardware anymore, thus turning gaming into a “pay per hour” activity. Sounds plausible.

Doesn’t really make sense

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Game Pass Ultimate, Premium, and Essential subscribers getting 15, 10, and 5 hours respectively before they have to buy additional playtime.

Microsoft said this impacts 4% of Game Pass subscribers

Microsoft said it was making the changes because the cost of providing cloud gaming has grown as more people use it and play for longer.

They’re doing this because 4% of their users play longer than those limits? The extra charges from that 4% is going to cover their increased costs? Sounds more like they picked some initial numbers to gauge the pushback with the future goal of lowering those limits and/or raising prices further going forward.

Re:Preparation for the “own nothing” era

By pla • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
I see what you mean, but heck, that’s not even playing every day - More like every other day on average, and I often burn a few hours on Sundays.

But that 4% stat is interesting - What this tells me is Game Pass is effectively a gym membership where the entire business model depends on 95% of people never using it.

‘Welcome to the AGI Era,’ OpenAI Says As GPT-6 Astra Debuts

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OpenAI has released GPT-6 Astra, a new model that president Greg Brockman called a “generational leap” and suggested may represent the arrival of AGI. “I think it might be about this model,” Brockman said in a briefing with reporters. He ended the briefing by saying: “Welcome to the AGI era.” Axios reports:
Astra pushes AI agents closer to doing complex professional work on their own — while also raising questions about how safely they can be deployed. OpenAI said that Astra was built on its largest-ever training run, using more than 100,000 GPUs at its Stargate site in Texas.

The company also said this is its first model to use other models in a significant role in supervising Astra’s training. GPT-6 Astra will first be available to a limited set of organizations in OpenAI’s Daybreak Access program and will be available “in the coming days” for ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business and Enterprise customers and API developers.

OpenAI said earlier this week that Astra would be released soon, but that its most powerful cybersecurity capabilities would remain limited to a small group of trusted testers. Astra is the first model OpenAI has designated as reaching its “critical” cybersecurity threshold under its preparedness framework — meaning it can potentially find and exploit previously unknown vulnerabilities across well-protected systems without step-by-step human guidance. OpenAI previously slowed Astra’s release to add safety testing after determining that its cyber capabilities could reach the critical threshold.
Further reading: OpenAI’s New Reasoning Technique Alarms AI Safety Experts

My Experience

By labnet • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I’m an EE and have coded mostly embedded for over 40 years.
In the 2 months, using Claude code, I’ve
Created property management application, including APIs to read 12 solar accounts, AI read pdf electricity bills, tenant portal, SharePoint integration, graph and entra integration, document storage, tenant doc sharing, lease management, critical date and compliance management, task management, dashboard, key register, DB backup within and external to app, etc etc. Full CI/CD pipeline with Gita secrets injection to docker. C# backend, React front end. I wouldn’t have a clue how to do front end dev. It took under 2 weeks, where most of time was devops with IT.
I’ve also developed a complex magnetometer data processing app (sync demod, FFT, water wall)
An asset management application to keep track of hundreds of pieces of test equipment.
An app to port 100k+ test records from unstructured ATE test logs to a structured searchable database.
Ported a payroll checking app I wrote in C# to a web app.
Debugged a commercial RFID microcontroller project with an obscure bug.
Developed a software architecture plan for complex mining sensor software.

The AI is WAY smarter than me most of the time and has allowed 20x productivity and done things I’d never had the patience to learn, like front end dev.
The cost of code has gone to almost zero.

Total BULL crap

By gurps_npc • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

This is the major problem with the AI crowd, they act like AGI is just around the corner. AGI is just around the corner the way that Nuclear Fusion is just around the corner.

Currently AI is really, really STUPID. It looks smart because it uses a ton of processing time and memory. It’s like you give the dumbest kid in school access to the internet, lock him in a room for 5 months and only let him out if he solves a suduko. It takes him 5 months, but eventually he gets it. Then you brag about him like he is a genius.

Ai is not getting smarter. It is getting better educated. It has access to more datasets and more cpu time. The basic process itself is the same as back in 2018 when Deepmind solved protein folding.

They have just applied it to languages, pictures, video, etc. Using the same technique on more datasets is NOT revolutionary, it is just evolutionary.

Yes, it is important work, significant process. But the same basic limitations still exist.

AGI is not and will NEVER be created using the same Large Language Model technology we call AI currently.

It will require something truly revolutionary. That means saying ‘people are working on it’ is like saying people are working on faster than light travel. We will need a super genius human that works out how to do something that we currently have NO idea how to do. Somebody that is a Professor or a PHD student, not a working software engineer.

We will not do it by making the minor upgrades to LLMs that OpenMind, Anthropic and all the rest are doing. They are doing necessary Engineering work, not technological experimentation.

No AI company is going to waste their money on the pie in the sky theories that no established engineer believes when there are so many obvious and EASY gains to be made doing minor upgrades. It’s like expecting the Wright brothers to create a jet engine.

Re:My Experience

By HiThere • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Look up “Jagged capabilities”. That’s where we are so far. And if you go back a couple of decades, a calculator could do math a lot faster and more accurately than you could.

A claim of “AGI” is a claim that the weakest of it’s jagged capabilities is still stronger than that of the average human, and I don’t believe we’ll see that this year.

Re:HAHAHAHAHA!!!

By machineghost • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Why the downvotes here? This is the correct response to everything that Sam Altman claims!

Mods, may I remind you of his quote: “I have no equity in OpenAI. I’m doing this because I love it.” Later financial disclosures and admissions revealed that he held substantial equity through third-party venture cap.

Or when (confronted by his board members that he was secretly telling different people conflicting stories to get board member Helen Toner pushed out), Altman claimed:“I never said that.” … and then an extensive 70-page review paper with preserved Slack messages, emails, and internal HR records proved Altman had indeed made those exact statements (leading the board to do take the incredibly rare step of firing him from his own company)?

Or have you forgotten that under oath this exchange occurred (the subject isn’t some random person, it’s Altman’s own co-founder):

“You told the board that Altman ‘exhibits a consistent pattern of lying, undermining his execs and pitting his execs against one another’,” Musk’s lawyer Steven Molo asked Sutskever.

“Yes,” Sutskever responded.

Altman is a habitual liar, and we SHOULD laugh at his bullshit claims.

Re: HAHAHAHAHA!!!

By Brain-Fu • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Well for starters, OpenAI has not claimed to have achieved AGI. Their claims stop short of stating that. And the reason is clear: they are just using marketing-speak to drum up interest, as they always have.

Secondly, I have worked a lot with GPT models and also Claude and Gemini, and OpenAI has been trailing behind Google and Anthropic by miles. GPT outright choked up and died under complex workloads that Gemini completed without breaking a sweat. I don’t believe for a second that the industry’s special-needs child has suddenly jumped ahead of its two greatest heavyweights.

Thirdly, Astra has been built using the same training methods as all the others in the current family. It might be bigger, but it is still just another LLM. The jump to AGI is going to require something much more revolutionary than a bigger training set, or stringing multiple LLMs together like tinker toys.

And, lastly, I am not an idiot. I can recognize marketing BS when I read it.

Nvidia Launches Free Tool That Links Idle Computers Into a Personal AI Data Center

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Nvidia has launched PAIR, a free open-source tool that links compatible computers on a home network so they can pool idle processing power for local AI inference and agentic workloads. “While the compatible devices are mostly Nvidia GeForce GPUs (PAIR works with RTX 20-series cards and newer, as well as RTX Pro GPUs and DGX Spark systems), Apple’s M4 chips or newer will also work,” reports The Verge. From the report:
The key thing here is that PAIR uses your in-home systems when they’re idle to avoid interfering with other tasks. And this disaggregated system of computers can work in parallel to chew through lots of processing requests — which should be helpful for an agentic workflow that breaks complex tasks into smaller jobs. This should prevent large bottlenecks on a single GPU, and Nvidia says PAIR can adapt as devices join or leave the network — including if a user does something like start playing a game on their desktop PC.

[…] Nvidia says PAIR is secured by pairing all devices through a six digit code and then securing the channel via mTLS (Mutual Transport Layer Security), to create an encrypted communication line that’s trusted in both directions between computers. The Nvidia PAIR beta is available today, with support for Windows, Linux, and macOS.

imagine a beowulf cluster

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Funny Thread

imagine a beowulf cluster of these!

Whose work loads?

By PPH • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

so they can pool idle processing power for local AI inference and agentic workloads

Where do I send my power bill to get it paid?

Local SETI@HOME + Tailnet project

By nadass • Score: 4 Thread
It sounds like they’re repurposing the SETI@HOME project’s distributed computing processes by combining it with a local tailnet (private mesh network) whereby the main PC is the ‘master’ node for both functions — unless the distribution is decentralized whereby it’s akin to crypto mining with a decentralized tailnet.

Overall it seems like a neat idea… a private computing cluster.

grid computing for the home…

By Ritz_Just_Ritz • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Meh. I’m going to pile on and say that most homes:

a. aren’t going to have multiple higher end devices with fancy gpus or a number of Apple M4 or M5 devices with enough RAM “laying around” doing nothing
and
b. even if they did, they’re not going to be willing to have them on 24/7 and sucking up electrons like nobody’s business to crank on AI inference jobs. The power usage would dramatically go up along with their monthly electric bill.

I could potentially see this working at a smaller business if their fleet of devices was up to the task. Game development shop?

Seems like a real reach and a “solution” in search of a problem to solve.

The bird seed will cost a fortune!

By OrangeTide • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Anything larger than a 256 GB stick risks injuring the carrier pigeon.
 

OpenAI’s New Reasoning Technique Alarms AI Safety Experts

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch:
OpenAI’s new Astra model will use a reasoning technique called “recurrent depth” that allows it to operate outside of the sequential thinking that characterizes most reasoning models, The Information reported on Tuesday. This technique, also called “opaque recurrence,” will likely make the model’s chain of thought more difficult to monitor — and that has AI safety experts rattled. While Astra’s use of the technique is reportedly limited, its emergence has still raised significant concerns among AI safety experts.

“I am extremely concerned by the reporting that Astra uses opaque recurrence,” wrote Redwood CEO Buck Shlegeris in a post after the news broke. “I don’t know whether Astra is much less CoT monitorable than previous models. But if OpenAI pushes this technique further, they’ll have the option to massively increase the recurrence and totally destroys CoT monitorability.”

Longtime AI safety advocate Zvi Mowshowitz also weighed in and wrote that laws might be necessary to prevent a “race to the bottom” among AI labs. “The technique is playing with fire, risking a taboo that OpenAI and Anthropic have fought to establish that we work hard to maintain Chain of Thought faithfulness and monitorability for as long as we can,” Mowshowitz wrote. “More intensive use of such techniques would probably damage monitorability.”

[…] In a post responding to the news, Redwood Research chief scientist Ryan Greenblatt said opaque reasoning could easily scale faster than conventional chain-of-thought reasoning, effectively removing all reasoning from visible channels. “My biggest concern is that a natural progression from here would involve scaling up the opaque reasoning to the point where the model reasons entirely or almost entirely in latent space,” Greenblatt wrote. “I hope it isn’t too late to avoid the most concerning architectures and that OpenAI will stop here.”
Astra’s use of the technique appears limited. “OpenAI has worked to preserve and utilize chain-of-thought monitoring since our very first reasoning models,” wrote OpenAI chief scientist Jakub Pachocki. “It’s a core goal of our current research program.”

abandon all hope

By toxonix • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

“I hope it isn’t too late to avoid the most concerning architectures and that OpenAI will stop here”
Why hope? If OpenAI thinks it will give them an edge, they’ll pursue it as far as it will go. If they don’t someone else will.

blah blah blah

By DarkOx • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

The company that just had their model “escape” an hack a competitor, while producing a haystack of reasoning output and agent to agent communication their post mortem said was incredibly difficult to follow; decides to just go live with something that will make reasoning even more difficult to follow.

Maybe this technique is harder to audit, I am not familiar with it I don’t know, but I think this just adds to the evidence they previous ‘incident’ was very much staged.

New Meaning

By TwistedGreen • Score: 5, Funny Thread

It sounds like “AI Safety Expert” is right up there with the “telephone sanitizer” of long ago.

Re:New Meaning

By ceoyoyo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Worse. It’s like the HR lady who writes the telephone sanitization SOPs and has no background in microbiology, health or any relevant field. They’re making it up as they go along.

to the point where the model reasons entirely or almost entirely in latent space

Early models did all their work in latent space. Then someone figured out that you could run them repeatedly so they could do things step-wise and called that “chain of thought.” Then someone else (re)discovered that you could reuse some of your layers and get better results for more computation but the same amount of parameters and memory, which is what “recurrent depth” seems to be. That’s just like adding more layers, which nobody cares about, but someone gave it a fancy name so now its the end of the world.

https://sebastianraschka.com/b…

Overblown

By Hentes • Score: 3 Thread

This is overblown, it’s just the professional doomsayers worrying that their made up job is going to get harder. Scratchpad based reasoning have always been a hack. It’s like the guy in Memento using postits trying to keep track of what the fuck he is doing, but unlike the robots at least he was aware that he was an amnesiac.

Audacity 4 Rebuilds the Open Source Audio Editor But Leaves Some Features Behind

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BrianFagioli writes:
Audacity 4.0 has been released with a rebuilt Qt interface, a new clip-editing model, customizable workspaces, native high-DPI rendering, and a new AUP4 project format. The open source audio editor also adds ASIO playback and recording support to official Windows builds, while bringing major changes to recording, playback, plugins, and project handling. The overhaul comes with some tradeoffs. Audacity 4.0 currently lacks several features found in Audacity 3, including Time Tracks, Note and MIDI tracks, Mixer, Macro Manager and scripting pipe, VAMP and LADSPA plugin hosting, and play-at-speed. The developers say they plan to bring the missing functionality back in future releases.

Re:Not sure what it’s for exactly

By TechyImmigrant • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I’ve never met a DAW that didn’t have a nightmare UI.
Audacity does not.

If I just want to futz with a audio clip, Audacity is the first choice.

Re:“bring the missing functionality back in future

By slaker • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Audacity has been on a very long journey to modernize itself. It wouldn’t shock me to learn that they shipped it with functions that are being most widely used or easiest to carry over just to get over the hurdle of getting a major release out the door. It’s a beloved tool; I know a bunch of people for whom it’s a production linchpin, and I think the developers working on are aware of the number of edge cases where only some tiny fraction of their users make use of a feature. Those people can stay on version 3 for now.

IIRC, a lot of what needed to happen with Audacity was an overall change in user interfaces, which required a lot of deep thought about how people interact with the application. It may be that some of the unhandled features just don’t align with the current user experience.

Tenacity Fork

By Grady Martin • Score: 5, Informative Thread
For anyone just tuning in, MuseCY Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Muse Group) bought out Audacity in 2021. Development direction has been iffy ever since; see the aforelinked history page for details. The fork, Tenacity, looks good but isn’t available in many distros’ official repos—likely because dust took so long to settle when Muse Group set off an explosion of forks by injecting Audacity with spyware (since reverted).

Re:Not sure what it’s for exactly

By marcle • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Agreed. It’s a no-nonsense way to do basic audio tasks. I use other DAWs (Reaper at the moment) for more complicated things, but Audacity has one killer feature which is loopback recording — allows easy recording from online sources, videos, etc., anything that goes through your computer speakers.

I just tried the new version, and the UI is clean and friendly, and the loopback feature is still there!

Re:“bring the missing functionality back in future

By djgl • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The same was said about MuseScore. And here we are, four years after v4.0 was tagged, still unable to save midi files with the current volume settings like v3.x did.

Did you know that the company that acquired MuseScore in 2017 is the same company that acquired Audacity in 2021?

Google Releases Gemini 3.8 Flash, Its Third Flash Model In Six Weeks

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Google released Gemini 3.8 Flash, its third Flash model in six weeks, claiming it’s their best reasoning and coding model yet (topping the DeepSWE leaderboard). Ars Technica reports:
Gemini 3.8 Flash comes in two variations. There’s the standard Flash, which Google describes as a “workhorse” model that’s good for anything from agentic tasks to software development. Then we have Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber, which runs on the same foundations but has been tuned for vulnerability detection and mitigation.

For developers, Google has the same pitch as it did for the 3.7 Flash release just a couple of weeks ago. API access to the model is available at an “introductory rate” through the end of the year: $0.75 per million input tokens and $3.75 per million output tokens. The regular price will be $1.50 / $7.50, but it’s likely there will be new models available long before the price changes. Google probably sees the lower prices as a necessity given that other AI labs have recently dropped token pricing to keep increasingly wary businesses engaged with AI tools.

[…] Gemini 3.8 Flash will be available across the Google ecosystem starting today, but Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is currently limited to trusted testers and governments. Like the past Flash release, you’ll need a Pro or Ultra subscription to access Gemini 3.8 Flash in the Gemini app, but you can always visit AI Studio if you want to tinker with it for free.

Flash? Can I play all my old flash games?

By jfdavis668 • Score: 4, Funny Thread
Glad I keep them.

Flash? Meh.

By PPH • Score: 3 Thread

Nothing that Superman can’t do better.