Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. AI-Powered Browser Just Generates Every Website From Scratch
  2. Ask Slashdot: What are the Costs of Switching Between Windows, MacOS, and Chrome?
  3. Slashdot Reader Builds ‘Spaced Linux’, a New Devuan-Based, User-Friendly Desktop Distro
  4. OpenAI Announces It’s Enhancing Security Controls, Pausing Some Work for New AI Model Astra
  5. Brain Activity Reveals the Melodies That People Imagine
  6. GNOME Receiving Additional Design Help From Germany’s Sovereign Tech Agency Fellowship
  7. Flock Camera Vandalism Continues Around America, While 100 Communities Reject ALPRs
  8. Quake Celebrates 30th Anniversary: New Official Episode With New Maps and Mechanics
  9. RAMageddon? 2027 Memory Capacity Reportedly Sold Out
  10. Google Should Still Be Forced To Shed Chrome, Advocacy Group Argues
  11. Slashdot Reader Builds a Photo-Verification App for iPhones
  12. New Orleans Will Use AI To Answer 911 Calls Instead of a Human
  13. More Police Officers Fired, Investigated, or Arrested for Misusing Flock Camera Systems
  14. America’s First Grid-Scale Sodium-Ion Battery Plant Gets Its First Big Test
  15. Paper Goods Company Is Investigating an Alternative to Trees

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

AI-Powered Browser Just Generates Every Website From Scratch

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XDA Developers reports:
On July 22, a Google DeepMind engineer, Vidy Thatte, shared a snippet of a browser he built that “treats every URL as a prompt and generates a site from scratch” on his X account. Just a few days later, he shared a TestFlight link to let iPhone users try it for themselves. The browser he launched is called Gem, and it’s a browser that doesn’t really…browse.

Instead of fetching a webpage from a server the way Chrome or Safari would, Gem hands whatever URL you type over to Google’s Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite model and asks it to generate a webpage on the spot. If you enter a real address, it builds its own interpretation of that site rather than loading the actual thing. If you enter an address that doesn’t exist, Gemini simply invents a website to fill the gap. In other words, you’re not visiting the internet so much as browsing one the model dreams up as you go…

Thatte’s reasoning was that with a model as fast and cheap as Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite, there’s almost no practical difference anymore between loading a website and generating a brand-new one on the fly… Given that this tool is powered by Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite and it’s just a side project rather than a full-fledged tool, it doesn’t come with Gemini access baked in. Gem requires you to bring your own Gemini API key to get it working. Every URL you enter fires off a request to the model, so Gem needs a key linked to your Google account to actually generate anything, with the usage billed to you. You can grab a key for free from Google AI Studio, paste it into Gem’s settings, and you’re ready to start typing URLs. While you can get started for free, I ran into the limits within two minutes of playing around. So, I did need to enable billing on my API key and decided to load $10 into it.
While the blogger’s own site seemed to only get the Gemini logo, tapping it revealed nearly two dozen remixing options. (Dark mode, Reader, Neubrutalist, Broadsheet, Blueprint, Comic book, Punk zine, Notebook, Chalkboard, Receipt, Teletext, System 7, Wes Anderson, Cyber neon, Clay, Frosted, Geocities, Matrix, Museum, Windows 95, Terminal, Vaporwave, and Hide images…) “The frontend morphed before my eyes. Every new edit took practically no time to load, and within a second or two, the same XDA articles would reappear wearing a completely different skin…” For another site, it kept the article headlines, but then rewrote all the text!

And after entering an address they knew didn’t exist — their own name — in two seconds the browser whipped up a slick portfolio “genuinely been better than some of what those tools produced with far more time and context to work with.” But its link to a LinkedIn profile led to a lookalike page, because Gem “had simply generated its own version of it, complete with a made-up follower number and details I never wrote....”

Ask Slashdot: What are the Costs of Switching Between Windows, MacOS, and Chrome?

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UI changes, lost productivity, untransferrable knowledge… Long-time Slashdot reader theodp notes the folly of switching to an unfamiliar new environment to be “more productive”…
Champions of the switch often insist workers will be able to hit the ground running and get the same or even more work done from the get-go in the new unfamiliar environment because it’s ‘more productive’, a conclusion often shaped by conventional wisdom or their ‘gut’ feeling. Decision makers may also mistake their own ‘light-user experience’ for universal experience and believe all platforms are fungible.

And while it’s one thing for a business to delay their delivery dates and increase costs of by introducing a switch in computing environments that’s of unquantified and possibly dubious value, how about when a switch in computing environments is made that affects schoolchildren’s ability to learn for a period of time?

While a MacBook Neo is indeed cute, what might be the possible consequences of a decision to move 25,000 students off Windows and onto MacBook Neos…? Or even the impact on a single kid who moves from a MacBook school to a Windows or Chrome school (or whose home computing environment isn’t aligned with their school). Or students whose teachers decide learning in their classrooms should now additionally require an understanding of the Minecraft computing platform/UI (used in over 40,000 school systems.). Learning Management Systems and now various AI Edtech tools used by schoolkids are also subject to change.
“Even if students and schools eventually benefit from a new platform, one wonders how much learning is lost during the switch,” theodp asks, “and what the financial and educational ROI and payback period look like.” Are there bigger problems than we realize? Share your own thoughts and experiences in the comments.

What are the costs of switching between Windows, MacOS, and Chrome?

Reimplementation costs

By Petersko • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

For companies with a complete set of supporting infrastructure, you must include the costs of standing up the whole structure, less licensing costs of the current ecosystem.

- Automated distribution and patching tools
- Standardized software
- Imaging tools for provisioning

Not to say it’s still not worth it. It could be. But the larger the org, the greater the inertia, and the longer you live with both ecosystems.

Windows to Linux to MacOS

By Tangential • Score: 3 Thread
I switched from Windows to Linux in 1998. Took about a day (kind of ignoring the time I spent modifying drivers to work on my notebook.) I switched to Mac in 2006 and that probably took a week. It was mainly the GUI that slowed down the transition. Have pretty studiously ignored Windows since then.

This advertisement brought to you by Microsoft

By engineer37 • Score: 3 Thread
Please dont switch from our horrible OS to something better

Switching is unavoidable

By SoftwareArtist • Score: 4, Informative Thread

He kind of answered his own question. Kids move between schools all the time. People move between companies all the time. Either you dictate that everyone in the world must use the same environment, or else people will sometimes have to change environments.

Sure there’s a cost to switching. You shouldn’t do it without a good reason. You also shouldn’t be afraid to do it when there is a good reason. You’re trading a short term cost for a long term benefit.

There also is value in knowing multiple platforms. I didn’t like it when I was at a company that had standardized on Windows for everything, but there have been lots of times since then when it was useful to have learned Windows. There’s educational value in occasionally being forced to learn a new platform.

Switching from Windows 7 to 8, 10, 11

By OrangeTide • Score: 3 Thread

Huge loss in productivity because everything is moved around. No Linux or Mac required in order to have a bad time!

Slashdot Reader Builds ‘Spaced Linux’, a New Devuan-Based, User-Friendly Desktop Distro

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“I’ve been a Linux IT administrator for 30 years now,” says crhylove (Slashdot reader #205,956), in a new video on his YouTube channel. “I used to be a data center architect, at one point I was the IT director for 13 school districts… I just haven’t been happy overall with all the other operating systems out there… "
I’ve been working really diligently for the last few weeks on a new distro called Spaced Linux that is exactly what I want to use. It’s heavily focused on the [zoom-friendly 3D] Compiz desktop, very efficient using the rolling Devuan Ceres backend, and avoids dependency hell by promoting mostly Flatpak usage.

It’s still early, but it’s already working great for me, it’s been my daily driver for a few weeks now.
There’s also user-friendly themes — everything from Linux, Android, GeoWorks, and Mac OS X to Windows 11, Windows XP, and even Windows 3.11 (dark or light theme). And you can also run Windows apps under Wine. “And let me tell you, Nvidia runs perfectly on here now…” he adds in the video. “It just works really, really well out of the box.”

He’s now working on voice-command features, bur argues that Spaced Linux “is already extremely usable, extremely efficient, extremely fast, and extremely reliable.... And it’s only going to get better and better.”

Relavant XKCD comic

By leonbev • Score: 4, Informative Thread

https://xkcd.com/927/

I mean, we shouldn’t shame the guy for making his own custom Linux distribution. But did we really didn’t need yet another one? Why can’t these things just be an add-on package to an existing distribution, instead of fragmenting the Linux ecosystem even more?

Mostly flatpak?

By cshark • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Nice, so now… I can sleep well with the confidence that my home directory can will get corrupted and my entire os might become useless just because. And that I’ll have no warning about any of it until my entire os catches fire, because there aren’t any meaningful logs anywhere.

Here for it.
This is the change we needed.

Spaced Linux

By PPH • Score: 3 Thread

Can we still use tabs?

Lost me at “Flatpak”

By jenningsthecat • Score: 3 Thread

… avoids dependency hell by promoting mostly Flatpak usage.

I’m glad that crhylove brought something to the party, but I won’t be partaking. I fully sympathize with the desire to avoid dependency hell, but in my experience AppImage is the only format that does that cleanly, reliably and painlessly.

Yes, heavy reliance on AppImages chews up disk space - and also memory, if you’re using a lot of apps which under traditional package management systems share libraries. But they’re clean, and they generally don’t break when the system is updated and libraries change. The onus is on the user to keep them up-to-date, and I can live with that.

I’m not hugely experienced here, so this is just an opinion: if you want to avoid dependency problems, AFAICT AppImages are the best choice. That said, in my limited experience, Flatpaks are at least less problematic than Snaps.

OpenAI Announces It’s Enhancing Security Controls, Pausing Some Work for New AI Model Astra

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OpenAI announced Friday it’s pausing work on its Astra AI model because of security concerns. The Guardian reports:
The company had evaluated the agent, Astra, and found “significant advancements in agentic coding and cybersecurity”, which had moved to a “critical” threshold… OpenAI stated that the model was not involved in an incident in which one of its AI agents went rogue during a test, accessed the open web and hacked a startup, Hugging Face… The reports have increased concerns about advancements in AI models and humans’ ability to control them.

Still, critics of the AI industry have warned that such disclosures from OpenAI and its competitors Anthropic and Meta could be designed to generate hype about the technology’s power and thus spur additional interest from investors.

To prevent potential rogue behavior from AI agents, OpenAI is “implementing stricter security controls for higher-capability models and associated activities, including isolated testing environments, restricted network and tool access”, the company’s blogpost stated. It will also install “enhanced model weight protections and encryption, additional monitoring and detection capabilities”. The company will pause internal activities involving Astra that do not meet these new requirements.
“We believe it’s important to be transparent with the public and the safety and security communities about this potential shift in capabilities…” OpenAI wrote in a blog post titled "Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities.”
Under our Preparedness Framework, a model reaches the Critical cybersecurity threshold if it can identify and develop functional zero-day exploits of all severity levels in many hardened real-world critical systems without human intervention, or can devise and execute end-to-end novel strategies for cyberattacks against hardened targets given only a high level desired goal. While we continue to benchmark and assess this model, our preliminary evaluations indicate strong enough performance that we cannot rule out Critical capability level at this time… Accordingly, we have scaled up robustness testing of our safeguards and security controls so that they are appropriate for a deployment of these capabilities…

- We are implementing stricter security controls for higher-capability models and associated activities, including isolated testing environments, restricted network and tool access, enhanced model weight protections and encryption, additional monitoring and detection capabilities, and sandboxed execution.

- We are pausing internal activities involving Astra that do not yet meet these strengthened security control requirements.

- We have implemented universal monitoring for risky actions and misalignment across all agentic applications of Astra, including training and evaluation. Monitors evaluate the model’s Chain of Thought and trigger a security response to review and interrupt high risk activity.

- We will work with relevant government agencies and select AI safety organizations to test the capabilities for this model…

We believe advanced cyber-capable models should help defenders identify and address vulnerabilities before attackers do. We’re committed to working alongside governments, safety institutes, and civil society to ensure that the frontier capabilities of models like Astra, and those that follow, are deployed responsibly and broadly for the benefit of all humanity.

O no

By liqu1d • Score: 3 Thread
Another big scary AI model that does things totally unseen before. We should all be both terrified and ready to open our wallets.

Just an ad to keep the hype train on the tracks

By Inglix the Mad • Score: 3 Thread
First: They don’t think - there is no will or independence.

Second: Wow, isn’t it amazing that whenever the questions start about AI that they suddenly have a new doom troll?

Third: Why are humans still programming? Dario said Claude would be programming EVERYTHING as of a few months ago.

Fourth: Where is the white collar JOBSPACOLYPSE?

Fifth:What is the ROI?

Last: Who actually believe Elon’s hype anymore? This crap about “DATACENTERS IN SPPAAACCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!!” flies in the face of not just materials science but physics.

Double Duty

By Casandro • Score: 3 Thread

There are probably 2 reasons to announce that:

a) generate more hype (our system is so good, it’s scary)

b) slow down the process of setting money on fire, as you pause spending it.

Brain Activity Reveals the Melodies That People Imagine

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Researchers believe they’ve found evidence that brain signals reveal the pitches of notes in imagined musical melodies, reports Medical Express:
Study participants were 10 epilepsy patients with electrodes on the surfaces of their brains for clinical monitoring. Participants quietly listened to the first bars of children’s tunes, then imagined the melodies of subsequent bars before humming their imagined melodies. Brain activity from the patients carried information about relative pitches within the imagined melodies. Combining note-level pitch predictions over time allowed the research team to recreate melodic changes that reflected the structure of the imagined songs…

“The model we created decodes relative pitch classes — such as do, re, mi, fa, sol, and la — rather than exact, absolute pitches,” [said tudy co-lead Jii Kwon of Seoul National University]. “This is useful because people often recognize melodies by the relationships between notes, even when the same melody is played in a different key.”

Let’s not go too far on this

By Z80a • Score: 3 Thread

Because i don’t want to get a copyright strike for playing songs in my head

GNOME Receiving Additional Design Help From Germany’s Sovereign Tech Agency Fellowship

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The new GNOME Boxes app for accessing virtual systems has reached beta, announced This Week in GNOME. There’s also been more work on the Sushi file previewer for Nautilus, and Papers 51 Beta can now add visual signatures to PDF documents.

But Phoronix noted one more announcement. “Germany’s Sovereign Tech Agency announced earlier this year a new fellowship program and now as part of that, for the next two years GNOME has a fellow dedicated to working on design and community management… paid to help developers with design feedback and reviews, mock-up creation, and other GNOME design related efforts…”

From the blog post by GNOME Design Team member Philipp Sauberzweig:
I have been contributing to GNOME design as a volunteer for several years… I believe that it’s essential for a free and democratic society to ensure free and independent access to these technologies. To achieve this goal, end-user devices based on free and open-source software are key, and the GNOME desktop and its app ecosystem offer a powerful alternative to proprietary platforms… This two-year fellowship is a great honor and marks a significant change in my life. It is a unique opportunity for me to devote my skills and experience entirely to a project I strongly believe in.

During my two-year fellowship, I will support GNOME maintainers and developers with design feedback and reviews, create mockups, and coordinate efforts to standardize design patterns. My other activities focus on lasting improvements through two strategic initiatives: expanding the design community to increase capacity and enhancing our design tooling to reduce overhead and simplify onboarding… To attract new contributors, I will increase the visibility of design work by writing regular blog posts, giving presentations, and running workshops at conferences and hackathons. New contribution opportunities for newcomers will be created with clear instructions for independent activities such as collecting state-of-the-art examples, running accessibility and user tests, and creating mockups. Design reviews will be used as mentorship opportunities, pairing regular design contributors with experienced designers for peer review and knowledge sharing…

If you’re interested in contributing to GNOME design, check out the Design Team page on the Welcome to GNOME website, familiarize yourself with the Human Interface Guidelines, and join our Matrix channel. If you’re a GNOME developer feel free to reach out to me via Matrix and involve me in design reviews.
Jakub Beránek from the Rust compiler and infrastructure team also earned a fellowship in Germany’s Sovereign Tech program, focusing on improving the Rust toolchain’s tooling and infrastructure for Rust’s developers.

Other fellows include Pablo Neira Ayuso (Linux kernel maintainer for the Netfilter subsystem), CPython core developer Stan Ulbrych, and Python core developer Hugo van Kemenade, FreeBSD contributor Alexander Ziaee.

the only science-based UI?

By buchner.johannes • Score: 3 Thread

As far as I know, the GNOME project has been the only Linux graphical shell that actually performs systematic studies of the user experience, and based on this, changes the interface. Testing how users are able to figure out a system is crucial, especially watching people (without helping them) who have never worked with Linux before.

This is a very different axis to most Linux developers building UIs based on what they feel like, which is most of what we read about on slashdot.
This is a very different axis to experienced users who have an emotional reaction when things change, which is where most of the software building energy goes.

GNOME indeed has a very nice interface design guide (likely originally inspired by Apple, but they evolved themselves), that you can consider for your own non-GNOME projects.

I like GNOME’s systematic approach, and great to see that Germany is putting money to these efforts.

Flock Camera Vandalism Continues Around America, While 100 Communities Reject ALPRs

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Dozens of Flock cameras have been vandalized around Dallas Texas in the last six months, reports a local news station. In Utah, ABC News reports, a county sheriff’s office even said Wednesday a Flock camera was even vandalized within days of its being installed. And in the Minnesota city of Winona, “Every Flock license plate reader camera operated by the Winona Police Department has been sawed off and stolen in what investigators believe was a coordinated theft,” according to local media:
All eight cameras were taken August 1, according to the Winona Police Department. A patrol officer first noticed the cameras had not sent any alerts in 24 hours. When officers checked the locations, they found the cameras had been cut from their poles and taken. The poles were left behind. Two additional Flock cameras on the Mississippi River Bridge, owned by Buffalo County, were also stolen in the same manner…

The thefts are part of a broader national trend. Flock cameras have been vandalized and cut down in communities across the country.
When someone in Florida filmed a damaged Flock camera lying in the grass in Florida, their footage attracted 980,000 views on social media, according to a local news report, with the uploader saying “Most of the people that are commenting are against Flock cameras.” But that report adds it’s one of at least five cameras recently damaged just in Florida:

- In another incident, investigators “found the black camera and its pole lying on the ground.”

- Two days later, sheriff’s deputies found a camera destroyed “with pieces scattered on the ground. Deputies reported the damage appeared to have been caused by a blunt object.”

- On July 31, “Police said two camera poles had been intentionally cut in half, causing an estimated $10,000 in damage to the system.”

In West Virginia 20-year-old Wesley Jackson has been arrested for allegedly vandalizing Flock cameras, with another 20-year-old (a university student) now arrested for being his accomplice, according to a local news report. Ironically, Jackson’s arrest was made possible partly by information from… automated license plate readers.

But the Washington Post notes there’s now a flood of Facebook commenters jokingly offering to provide a fake alibi:
“Couldn’t have been him — we were out counting blades of grass,” said one of the 29,000 commenters on a post about the arrest from the local news station WDTV. Others attested that the man, Wesley Jackson, had been helping them “replace the roof on a homeless shelter,” “playing halo 2,” “changing the tires” on their car or giving their “doggie a treat” at the time the cameras were destroyed.
Meanwhile, the anti-surveillance group DeFlock reports 100 communities have now rejected automated license plate readers. Wednesday an Arizona county sheriff explained to his local Board of Supervisors why he will not renew his office’s contract with Flock when it expires next month. Local Arizona media reports:
“We have a camera system that can do facial recognition technology and can start building a data set on what our citizens are doing on a day-to-day basis,” Teeple told supervisors. “That, in my training and experience, is a huge Fourth Amendment violation.”
Recently an Arizona man even told his city council he’d be launching AI-powered satellites to monitor “where government officials go, where they stop, who they meet with, and when they return home,” reports 404 Media:
It would be no different than how the city monitors its citizens using Flock cameras, he said… He said he’d already started compiling profiles on their vehicles, spouses vehicles, children’s vehicles, and planned to combine that data with Bluetooth signals, advertising IDs, and commercial data sources, “so our authorized users can replay the movements of every government official and their immediate family,” he said. Local businesses would be invited to join the network, to “protect” officials while they shop, eat at restaurants, and move around the city.
And CNET reports “a quiet battle is happening across the US" between “towns working to adopt Flock Safety systems and those trying to ban them entirely.”
From major cities like Los Angeles canceling its Flock contract to towns wrapping Flock AI cams in plastic bags because Flock won’t take them down, it’s a wild time for surveillance and questions about government accountability.

Re:What a waste

By Smidge204 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The only thing I can infer from your reply is that you do not understand what either (or both) “fascist” and “socialist” mean.

=Smidge=

Re:Over Reporting. Again.

By leonbev • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It seems like the only the dramatic Flock camera destructions where they’re being cut down or dragged away by a truck are really getting reported. The ones where they are being silently destroyed by pointing a high power green laser at the camera sensor are not.

I can imagine that Flock doesn’t want people to know about how easily they can be disabled, so they aren’t really reporting that on the news.

Re:What a waste

By karmawarrior • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

You’re saying workers coops want to acquire more power? That trade unions want cameras on every street corner?

I appreciate that half the people here, probably because they’re American, think “socialismimsm means anything I don’t like that involves the government” but that’s not what it means. And the people self identifying as socialists in government right now, from AOC to Bernie, are not, actually, in favor of cameras on every street corner.

Some political parties, especially in Eastern Europe, identifying as socialist formed governments that were dictatorships. Others, such as those in Western Europe, were and still are democratic, and fought hard for your rights to be unrelated to your wealth.

I know it’s hard when you’ve been subjected to this kind of propaganda about socialists since you were capable of understanding English, but stop believing propaganda.

Re:What a waste

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

90% of hijackings, including Lockerbee and 9/11, were government intelligent funded psychological operations. Even the shoebomber was basically put there by the FBI.

The government wishes it was even 10% as powerful as you imagine it to be.

Re:Conditions of acceptance

By MikeDataLink • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

If the police were 100% trustworthy

It’s like Chris Rock said… “You can’t have good cops who support and protect bad cops. Because as long as that happens, there only exist bad cops.”

Quake Celebrates 30th Anniversary: New Official Episode With New Maps and Mechanics

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To celebrate Quake‘s 30th anniversary, Bethesda released “a brutal new episode” — a new campaign chapter titled Dawn of the Machine “delivering ferocious combat, labyrinthine level design, and nightmarish realms that twist reality beyond recognition…”
Face deadly new twists on familiar foes, including the Rocket Ogre, Demo Dog, Blood Shambler, and more. Each variant introduces lethal new behaviours — from overwhelming firepower to explosive death traps — forcing you to rethink every encounter. Expand your arsenal with brutal variants inspired by classic Quake expansions, including the Super Axe — unleashing lightning on successive strikes — and the Laser Cannon, firing ricocheting projectiles that tear through enemies from every angle… Reality is never stable. Shift between dimensions to solve puzzles and navigate the world, or find hidden secrets scattered throughout the realms. Face enemies that rise again or transform after death, and experience encounters where the rules change without warning — forcing you to adapt or be overrun.
More details from Ars Technica:
This is part of a series of new campaign chapters, all developed by MachineGames “in collaboration with id Software.” MachineGames is best known for making the games in the relatively recent Wolfenstein reboot series, as well as Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. The Quake maps are made by a team dubbed “Quake Club,” which includes several MachineGames employees who work on Quake maps in their spare time.

The ambition and scope of some of these maps is beyond what was typical for Quake maps back in the late ‘90s, thanks in part to the team’s use of TrenchBroom, a newer map editor that works well on modern systems and is easier to work with and more capable than what folks were using in those days. There are 19 new levels, and they have several new gameplay gimmicks, like a time loop mechanic and a disorienting-but-cool teleportation system that makes it look like the levels are changing on the fly — kind of similar to the multi-time-period levels we saw in Titanfall 2 or Dishonored 2, though in these Quake maps the time shifts happen without player input. There’s also new music… The new maps have been added to the campaign list in the remastered version of Quake, and like that remaster, they’re available free to anyone who already owns Quake on Steam, as well as Quake on current and last-gen PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo consoles.

Only For The Listed Platforms

By ewhac • Score: 4, Informative Thread

The expansion pack is currently available only for the platforms listed. If you own Quake from GOG.com, the Epic Store, or own the original CD-ROM, you are, for the moment, SOL.

Shareware

By ThurstonMoore • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I’ve still got my Quake shareware CD with NIN soundtrack.

Can’t wait to hear those two sweet words again.

By oogoliegoogolie • Score: 3 Thread

QUAD DAMAGE!

RAMageddon? 2027 Memory Capacity Reportedly Sold Out

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IGN reports:
[A] new report suggests that all three memory manufacturers — Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron — have collectively sold through their 2027 memory manufacturing capacity to, you guessed it, AI companies.

According to a report from Digitimes and spotted by TweakTown, all DRAM and HBM capacity has been sold through for 2027, with no further supply planned. (The companies themselves have not yet confirmed this to be the case.) Of course, that only means that retail prices are going to go up even further in the near future. Selling through all the capacity for next year would be bad enough for consumers, but the problem is that most of the companies buying up this capacity have done so through long-term purchasing agreements, essentially pre-ordering memory that hasn’t even been manufactured yet over a five-year term. Unless more capacity opens up somewhere in the next few years, it’s hard to imagine that RAM will become more affordable and less scarce any time soon.

It’s not just memory that’s affected. According to that Digitimes report, NAND storage is growing in demand too. Luckily, NAND capacity hasn’t been completely absorbed, because there are more companies supplying the stuff. But it’s not exactly hard to see that SSDs have been growing steadily more expensive over the last six months or so.

Massively stupid

By Arnonyrnous Covvard • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

They’re just opening the doors wide for cheap Chinese memory, which will come, and then it will be RAMageddon for the cabal of manufacturers who so smugly announce that they’ve locked in obscene profits for years. With prices twice or more expensive than they need to be, there are many markets where it doesn’t matter that China can’t manufacture the same densities (yet). With enough money flowing in and this strategic opportunity given to them in a completely unforced fault, China will not take long enough to catch up for the established manufacturers to ramp up and do something about it.

Re:Massively stupid

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

They’re just opening the doors wide for cheap Chinese memory, which will come, …

… and (assuming this happens prior to 2029) then it will get banned in America. But at least other countries will be able to buy it.

Re:Massively stupid

By ukoda • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Meh, the USA is only about 20% of world trade, China will be happy to supply the other 80% of the world trade.

And now…

By LordHighExecutioner • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

…after that AI companies have been allowed to use your electricity, your water, and your land, they will be allowed to seize RAM from your laptop.

Re:Massively stupid

By caseih • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Chinese companies learn from the best (us). And they are only responding to demand. The blame for low-quality goods cannot be placed on China. The blame is squarely back here at home because low-quality, cheap goods are exactly what the American market is demanding, and demanding big time (Temu and Shein are wildly popular). No one wants high quality goods at higher cost. We all say we do, but in reality we don’t, and our buying habits just reinforce that. No you can’t blame China, sorry. The destruction of American industry is entirely a problem of our own system. American companies deliberately destroyed American manufacturing (and employment) in the name of short-term, quarterly profit. China didn’t cheat and steal our jobs: we gave it all to them on purpose. No amount of tariffs and taxes will change that.

And for the record, I’ve had to deal with poor quality goods made in the US as well. Cutting corners to save pennies applies just as much to American manufacturers (maybe even more so) as it does to Chinese manufacturers. For example, Eaton Cutler-Hammer electrical panels are the most flimsy things I’ve ever dealt with. Every possible cost was cut.

Google Should Still Be Forced To Shed Chrome, Advocacy Group Argues

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“Google should be required to divest the Chrome browser, and prohibited from paying Apple to distribute Google’s search engine, the nonprofit advocacy group Public Knowledge argues in a new court filing,” MediaPost reports, citing a friend-of-the-court brief filed Tuesday in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals:
The group adds that “independent ownership” of Chrome “would open the distribution channel Google controls and allow Chrome to serve browser users when it makes privacy decisions and determines how to integrate search and (artificial intelligence)…”

In September 2025, [U.S. District Court Judge] Mehta issued a remedies order that requires Google to share some data about users’ searches with “qualified” competitors and to provide syndicated search results and ads to those competitors. The order also prohibits Google from entering into exclusive distribution contracts for Google Search, Chrome, Google Assistant and the Gemini app for six years, but allows the company to continue to make payments for search-ad revenue or distribution to Apple, Mozilla and others…

Google recently appealed Mehta’s order. The company argued in its written brief that it “prevailed in the marketplace fair and square,” adding that Apple and Mozilla “sensibly chose” Google as the default search engine “because it gave their users the best experience,” and because Apple and Mozilla would earn the most ad revenue through the deals. The [U.S.] Justice Department and states countered to the appellate court last week that the liability finding should stand, and also argued that Google should have been banned from paying Apple and Mozilla for placement as the default search engine on their browsers.

[Antitrust enforcers had originally asked the judge to order Google to divest Chrome, but he’s already rejected that request.] The government did not argue in its appellate papers that Google should be forced to sell Chrome. But Public Knowledge independently contends in its friend-of-the-court brief that divestiture would benefit consumers… “Divestiture would place those decisions with an institution whose success depends on serving browser users primarily....” The group is calling the appellate court’s attention to Google’s April 2025 decision to preserve tracking cookies — a reversal from its earlier plans to block third-party cookies by default. “Google is in the position of both deciding Chrome’s tracking rules while running the advertising business affected by them,” Public Knowledge writes. “An independent Chrome could make those decisions on behalf of users alone.”
But Firefox developer Mozilla filed its own friend-of-the-court brief Thursday warning Firefox could be forced to “exit the browser and browser engine markets” if it can’t receive payment from Google for distributing its search engine, according to a later report from MediaPost:
Federal and state antitrust enforcers recently asked the appellate court to reverse the portion of Mehta’s order that allows those payments to continue. But Mozilla counters in its new friend-of-the-court brief that Mehta’s decision regarding those payments was supported by the evidence —including a study it conducted concluding that its revenue would “decline dramatically” if forced to replace Google with Bing as Firefox’s default search engine… Google is expected to file new arguments with the appellate court next month.

Side effects

By CommunityMember • Score: 3 Thread

I would like all payments from search engines to to end (and each browser stand on it’s own). But, Mozilla itself has stated that that remedy will likely end Firefox as a viable browser (as they depend on Google’s payments to survive). Sometimes the evil you know is more palatable than the evil you don’t know, and I would like to see Firefox survive at least a little longer.

Google isn’t going to let that one go easily

By wakeboarder • Score: 3 Thread

That’s how they spy on everyone and generate ad revenue. But the fed really needs to do better on monopolies. They are too powerful.

No good outcomes for Chrome here.

By Gravis Zero • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Let’s just game out how divesting would go.
1. Chrome is bought by another megacorp (e.g. Microsoft) and is then equally used to screw over users.
2. Chrome is bought by a medium-sized company that fails to recognize the level investment it requires and they make bad choices or sell it to someone else.
3. Chrome is bought by a small company that MUST make money from Chrome and adds a bunch of shitty stuff to it and Chrome starts dying.

The best outcome you are going to get is Chrome dying a slow death and most people fleeing to other chromium forks which likely mean Microsoft absorbing most users. Given what they have written about why to divest, it seems they are hoping for a nonexistent possibility where greed is not the driving factor.

Re:No good outcomes for Chrome here.

By sourcerror • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

4, OSS comminity developed model, like Firefox or Debian. But fundrasising would be hard, FF only survived so far because of Google’s money in the first place (search engine placement).

Big techs’ “browser problem”

By xack • Score: 3 Thread
This is like the little red hen here, but KDE and Mozilla did all the initial hard work, and Apple, Brave, Google, Microsoft and Opera hijacked it all to add advertising and tracking, with security holes that are now being ultra-exposed by new AI vulnerability finders. The browser industry even relies on security holes in their own products, just ask the billions of people scanned by Cloudflare to prove their so called “humanity” and the millions of false positives locking them out of their own websites (especially disabled and neurodiverse people).

But I’ve also lost patience with Mozilla, their managers and devs are struggling to keep up with modern browser standards and the amount of security holes in Gecko, while wasting donator’s money on redesigns, widgets and football team sponsorships so it looks like Chromium will be even more entrenched.

The browser industry is incredibly toxic, with browser memory usage coming under increased scrutiny in the ram crisis. We need to critically evaluate the HTML, Javascript, CSS and the other standards in the browser katamari and start having some common sense because right now the browser is the most dangerous component of an operating system.

I’ve been commenting on the browser industry since before Mozilla even brought out Phoenix and before Safari came to MacOS X, we have created a monster with browser tech.

Slashdot Reader Builds a Photo-Verification App for iPhones

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Long-time Slashdot reader BrianFagioli is announcing that he’s released a new iPhone app that creates a cryptographic witness for photos without uploading the original image.
The app hashes the file, signs the hash using a dedicated identity stored in Apple Keychain, and publishes the witness to Nostr relays while keeping the photo inside the app unless the user chooses to export it.

Rather than trying to determine whether a scene was genuine, the app — named Veridenz — answers a narrower question, by verifying whether a photo file matches the one that was originally witnessed. Users do not need a Nostr account because the app creates its own signing identity, keeping private documentation separate from a public Nostr profile.
“The developer does not collect any data from this app,” says its page in Apple’s iPhone store. The app’s tagline is “Capture. Prove. Verify.”

What kind of hash?

By anomaly256 • Score: 3 Thread
Is it a hash of the actual file, or a perceptual hashing of the image scene? The former would be quite fragile as so many things can alter an image file without altering the image per se, like compression or metadata stripping when uploading the file. Perceptual hashing would verify the authenticity of the scene itself and should survive file conversion and some amount of compression.

I did not build Veridenz only for investigators or attorneys. I was thinking about ordinary situations where stronger documentation could become useful later. Contractors could document completed work, while landlords and tenants could record the condition of an apartment. Homeowners might capture insurance damage, delivery workers could document drop-offs, and online sellers could photograph valuable items before shipping them. Photographic& Digital Arts

This sounds like perceptual hashing would be more useful, specially since the use cases mentioned are unlikely to have proper chain of custody processes for evidence handling without accidentally altering image files during upload / exchange

Re:The people who need this, don’t need a iPhone a

By test321 • Score: 4, Informative Thread

The C2PA (Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity) standard is integrated into all high-end cameras already, starting by Sony since 2021; and in smartphones there is the Pixel 10.

Re:What kind of hash?

By Aighearach • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Of course it’s fragile. That’s the point.

No, you’re not comprehending.

A fragile hash is almost useless. For example, you hash an image, then upload it somewhere. Somebody else saves the file, and without intentionally modifying it, uploads it to social media. Somebody checks the hash, and it’s different, because all the social media sites re-encode the images to save bits.

Whereas, a more sophisticated perceptual hash would identify the plagiarism.

This is the type of argument made by someone who has a vested interest in tampering with evidence.

If you’re gonna be an asshole, it helps not to also be a moron at the same time.

New Orleans Will Use AI To Answer 911 Calls Instead of a Human

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“If you call 911 in New Orleans, you may hear the sound of an artificial intelligence (AI) agent answering your call instead of a human voice,” reports the Shreveport Times:
The Orleans Parish Communication District (OPCD) is currently testing out the new tool designed to reduce the volume of calls human dispatchers must handle, which is over a thousand emergency calls a day. New Orleans implemented AI in April to answer 311 calls for non-emergencies. The AI was trained and programmed to provide information to callers, as the OPCD says 50% of 311 calls are for information, according to GovTech. AI is now answering 911 emergency calls in Louisiana’s largest city and one of the cities with the highest call rates in the U.S.

The OPCD is using Carbyne’s AI Emergency Call Triage, with triage being the process of analyzing and prioritizing emergency calls. The AI system assesses incoming calls and can provide immediate feedback to callers. This is intended to handle the increase of calls that are related to one incident, so callers get automatically routed to an AI agent who asks if they are calling regarding the incident. If the answer is yes, then callers can receive information or updates, and if it’s no, then the callers are transferred to a human. This combats multitudes of calls piling up and taking longer time to potentially answer an emergency call. The OPCD said the AI will not be used to handle emergency calls, only to direct such calls to a human dispatcher.

Re:Well

By gewalker • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I’m pretty sure it won’t be the CEO of Carbyne (the company providing the AI) - but we all knew that already.

Oh goody

By locater16 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
I’ve been stuck with one of these AI driven voice systems for a semi emergency just 2 months ago, a random tire in the middle of a busy freeway. Got stuck in an infinite loop on the “menu” and couldn’t report it at all. Hopefully no one crashed.

Re:Mark my words today…

By drnb • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Dispatchers are usually the lowest paid employees next to lunch ladies. It’s never been considered a critical service, collecting taxes and laundering the money is the primary mission.

Yet they are sometimes some of the more capable people around. Calmly getting the information needed by first responders, giving callers the most practical advice that can be offered from a telephone. The dispatcher I knew was former military, a communications specialist in a headquarters unit, connecting people in the field with command during combat.

Re:Mark my words today…

By rsilvergun • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
If I had to guess they are probably going to structure this so that it targets poor neighborhoods who are less likely to have the resources to sue. You can do that by breaking up a city into subsidies or parishes or what not. Which is exactly why you see that so often. Rich people like to have the services of a large city but they don’t like the pay for them because well you don’t get rich paying for things you get rich making other people pay for things for you. So wealthy people will split their part of the city off so they don’t have to pay taxes while enjoying the services of the rest of the city

As always it’s a big club and you ain’t in it.

Well this is shit

By gijoel • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
I remember a few years ago a woman called 911 pretending that she was calling a pizza restaurant. The 911 operator picked up on that and sent some police cars to free the woman from her armed captor. Speech recognition systems are good, but I doubt they’ll ever pick up on a situation like that.

More Police Officers Fired, Investigated, or Arrested for Misusing Flock Camera Systems

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In Georgia the Savannah Police Department “terminated four sworn officers and two civilian employees following an internal investigation into misuse of the department’s Flock Safety License Plate Reader system,” according to a local news report:
All six cases are also under independent criminal investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation… Investigators found that employees were running searches on personal acquaintances and family members. One officer was found to have given someone from an outside law enforcement agency access to SPD’s Flock Safety system, which they weren’t authorized to do.
Elsewhere ABC News reports that a female North Carolina police officer was arrested Wednesday “for allegedly using Flock license plate readers to track her boyfriend’s ex-wife, according to police…” The officer is accused of accessing the system for personal use 31 different times, including at least twice when she was off-duty, and listing most of the lookups as motor vehicle infractions. [Police chief Ron] Campurciani “added that the department is looking at 10 other potential misuse cases and said three ‘look like they could be problematic.’"

And an Ohio news station reports a police officer who recently resigned “while under internal investigation repeatedly used the Flock license plate reader system to search a vehicle registered to someone investigators identified as his likely domestic partner.”

Meanwhile, 404 Media reported this week that an Iowa county’s usage police specifically tells police officers — in all capital letters — not to tell occupants of a vehicle that an automated license plate reader was used for a traffic stop. It also instructs officers to not even mention the use of the ALPR technology in their reports “unless absolutely necessary,” according to information they’d obtained from a public records request,” suggesting they instead they call the cameras “county resources”:
It is not just local police in small communities who are creating policies designed to obfuscate Flock usage. Earlier this year, we reported that police in multiple states were being told to be “as vague as permissible” about why they were using Flock because their searches could be obtained using public records requests, and that warning was being shared by the FBI and Department of Justice…

In the [Iowa county] public records request, Sheriff Don Phillips said “there is no need” to tell people about the use of Flock… “because the information is verified by the deputy running the license plate. It is common practice for law enforcement to refrain from disclosing investigative methods and sources to prevent criminals from learning how to circumvent them.”

Welp

By Scutter • Score: 3 Thread

Deliberately obfuscating or misleading the public about the mass surveillance abuse is sure to go a long way towards rebuilding all that public trust lost from all those police shootings.

Re:Welp

By Scutter • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Why does Flock have to be honest to the public in any way? Are they under oath? Genuinely asking?

I know reading comprehension is hard, but even the summary has specific examples of police creating a policy to hide their use of Flock cameras. We’re not talking about Flock being honest to the public. We’re talking about police behavior.

Great

By Tailhook • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Now watch the “fired” officers get hired the next day in another jurisdiction.

Just another reminder

By gweihir • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Whatever data is collected, it will get used against people. Whether legal, illegal or secret with no legal controls on it. The only protection is to outlaw the data-collection itself and fit that ban with personal (!) penalties for violators.

On the same page as this story

By Shakes Fist • Score: 3 Thread
https://yro.slashdot.org/story…

America’s First Grid-Scale Sodium-Ion Battery Plant Gets Its First Big Test

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“In a milestone for energy storage technology, Peak Energy has selected Sacramento, California, as the home of America’s first manufacturing facility dedicated to grid-scale sodium-ion battery systems,” according to the sustainability news site Intelligent Living.

The move “represents the first large-scale test of whether sodium-ion technology can deliver on its promise of cheaper, safer, and more sustainable grid storage at a scale that actually moves the needle for the U.S. electricity system.”
The 183,000-square-foot plant, representing a $71 million investment, will produce up to 4 gigawatt-hours of storage annually when production begins in early 2027. That is enough output each year to serve nearly four million homes, and it signals that sodium-ion technology has moved from laboratory promise to commercial reality… Peak Energy, founded in 2023 by former engineers from Tesla, Enovix, and Fluence, announced its Sacramento site selection on July 8, 2026, after a nationwide search that ultimately chose California over Texas… The factory is designed as a system assembly plant rather than a cell fabrication facility. Peak will receive sodium-ion cells, manufactured to its specifications by Chinese suppliers, and assemble them into complete 30-foot-long, 100,000-pound containerized storage systems. Each GS1.1 unit stores 3.1 megawatt-hours, enough to fully charge more than 40 electric vehicles…

In the United States, Peak Energy has emerged as the most advanced grid-scale player. It has secured more than 6 GWh of customer commitments, including a landmark deal with Jupiter Power for up to 4.75 GWh through 2030, valued at up to $500 million. Energy Vault has committed to 1.5 GWh of sodium-ion storage for AI data center applications, and RWE Americas has already deployed Peak’s first grid-scale system on the MISO grid in Wisconsin, energized in March 2026. General Motors is codeveloping sodium-ion cells with Peak at its Wallace Battery Cell Innovation Center in Michigan, testing 170- and 190-amp-hour cell formats with domestic production targeted for 2028. China, however, remains the global heavyweight. CATL, the world’s largest battery manufacturer, unveiled its TENER Sodium energy storage system in June 2026 with a rated cycle life of 15,000 cycles and a projected 25-to-30-year service life. In April 2026, CATL signed a 60 GWh supply agreement with HyperStrong, the largest sodium-ion deal announced to date. BYD, HiNa Battery, and Farasis are also shipping commercial sodium-ion products, including batteries for a $400 electric scooter already on sale in China…

Peak Energy’s first commercial shipments from Sacramento are slated for the first quarter of 2027, with contracted deliveries to Jupiter Power, Energy Vault, and RWE Americas following shortly after. The company has publicly stated it needs to deploy over $100 million in product in 2026, up from roughly $10 million in 2025, and the Sacramento facility is sized to meet that demand. At the system level, sodium-ion grid storage is already operating. Peak’s pilot installation at the SolarTAC testing facility in Watkins, Colorado, stores 3.5 MWh and has been running since 2025. The RWE Americas deployment in Wisconsin, energized in March 2026, marks the first time sodium-ion batteries have backed up the MISO grid, which serves 15 central U.S. states and the Canadian province of Manitoba…

According to the International Energy Agency, sodium-ion manufacturing capacity announcements have accelerated sharply since 2024, with global pipelines now exceeding 400 GWh annually… Researchers are also pushing the technology forward. In May 2026, a team at the National University of Singapore published a breakthrough in all-solid-state sodium batteries that could further reduce costs and eliminate the flammable liquid electrolytes found in both lithium-ion and current sodium-ion designs.
“The technology’s sweet spot is utility-scale, multi-megawatt-hour installations,” the article points out, “where the system-level cost savings from passive cooling and longer cycle life outweigh the per-cell energy density penalty…” The article also points out observations from the American Battery Leadership Coalition, an industry group advocating for sodium-ion policy support, that sodium-ion batteries can be built almost entirely from American materials, including coal, sawdust, and agricultural waste.

This week Syntropic Power and UNIGRID Inc. also announced “a major partnership to commercialize UNIGRID’s proprietary sodium chromium oxide (NaCrO2) battery technology across North America,” reports Interesting Engineering, “targeting one gigawatt-hour (1 GWh) of deployments in 2027. The technology could be used in residential, virtual power plant, and large-scale stationary grid applications…”
Independent testing by the ISO-accredited Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) Battery Development Center revealed something surprising. UNIGRID’s 210Ah cells displayed endothermic behavior during charging. This means the chemical reaction actually absorbs heat rather than dumping it into the environment. Coupled with a 97.9% cell-level round-trip energy efficiency and remarkable thermal stability under abuse testing, the battery stays cool on its own.

The 210Ah sodium-ion cells deliver up to 218Ah of discharge capacity. It demonstrated exceptional durability, retaining over 99% of its capacity after 1,000 full discharge cycles, as well as heat-absorbing behavior during charging. These validated strengths allow Syntropic to optimize its product designs, enabling platforms like GridSpan [its modular DC platform designed for large-scale energy applications with flexible discharge durations ranging from 20 minutes to 20 hours] to operate safely and efficiently at grid scale without needing complex mechanical cooling systems…

Commercialization kicks off with Tenet, a safety-focused, wall-mounted system for residential, light-commercial, and virtual power plant uses… Relying on abundant and widely distributed raw materials like sodium and chromium — rather than lithium and cobalt — protects manufacturers from geopolitical price spikes and material shortages. Apart from offering an alternative to lithium, a successful rollout will demonstrate that the most durable energy storage is the kind that could stay cool entirely on its own.
Thanks to Slashdot reader fjo3 for sharing the news.

what wasn’t mentioned was the backup prototype

By Provocateur • Score: 3 Thread

The low sodium battery was being prepared in someone’s garage.

$71 million seems a bit much

By ishmaelflood • Score: 3 Thread

All they are doing is unloading pallets of cells from a truck, wiring them up, and putting them in cabinets. Woo hi tech.

Spectacular technology, shame about the math

By JimToo • Score: 3 Thread

Sodium Ion batteries, less impact for mining (better materials), more cycles, lots of really cool results. The ability to spread solar and wind generation across the day makes a huge difference to the success of renewable generation.

The advertising though … 4GWh per year and 4,000,000 million households … really??? I wish we could use real numbers.

Containers are 3.1MWh. $71 million buys about 150. RTE say 75%. This reads a lot more like 450MWh, 200MW for 2 hours with 110MWh lost to heat. Good for negative 1,800 houses (I used 5kW 50% of the day per house). The equation does not swing to positive generation until there are at least 400MW of PV at roughly another $90million to build.

For all that it’s a great story, there is not much past the headline that is safe to read and draw conclusions from.

Paper Goods Company Is Investigating an Alternative to Trees

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The Dallas Business Journal reported Monday that the U.S. multinational paper goods company Kimberly-Clark announced “that its researchers identified and advanced patented technology transforming fibers from hesperaloe, a low-water-use plant with pointy leaves that thrives in the southwest region of the country, into material for paper towels.” Discovering an alternative to conventional wood fiber “could reshape how the company, and the industry at large, manufactures products,” according to article.

And the move comes “amid growing pressure on manufacturers regarding their reliance on wood fibre from freshly felled trees,” reports The Telegraph. “Campaigners claim that more than one million trees are cut down every day…”
Unlike trees, hesperaloe can be grown on dry, low-quality farmland unsuitable for most food crops and harvested much more quickly. Kimberly-Clark said it had tested more than 70 potential materials before settling on hesperaloe. Earlier candidates included wheat straw, corn waste, seaweed, algae and chicken feathers. The US consumer goods giant will now develop the fibre at a pilot factory in Yuma, Arizona, working with local growers to determine whether the crop can be cultivated for commercial use in its tissue products. “This represents an exciting moonshot for Kimberly-Clark and the culmination of more than two decades of materials and plant science expertise,” said Craig Slavtcheff, who is helping develop the new toilet paper.

However, the company said products made from hesperaloe remained years away from supermarket shelves, with further research needed before the fibre could be produced at the scale required for global manufacturing. The US-based company has invested about $250m (£190m) in the project and filed more than 30 patents linked to the technology.

Re:Can’t see the forest for the trees

By dgatwood • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Also, low-water-use plants tend to also be slow-growing. That’s why they use so little water.

Hesperaloe produces 1.5 kg per cubic meter of water. This is comparable to the water use efficiency of forests used for paper, which is between 1.5 and 4 or so. So this actually requires as much water as trees, if not more. The only advantage, if you can call it that, is being able to plant it in places were trees won’t grow.

But the problem is that this also means you’ll be cultivating plants grown far apart, none of which produce very much mass per plant without taking so much that you kill the plant (whose roots are likely the only thing keeping the topsoil from eroding). That means you need an order of magnitude more land per unit of crop mass, and probably closer to two orders of magnitude. (Trees get tens of feet tall. Hesperaloe is a pile of long leaves that gets maybe a foot tall.) So the energy consumption involved in harvesting it is likely to also be one to two orders of magnitude greater because you might have to harvest an entire acre worth of red false yucca to get as much biomass as you’d get from cutting down one fully grown coniferous tree in a few minutes.

So you’ve gotten a little bit more crop land that nobody asked for, and/or saved a bunch of trees that were planted specifically to turn into paper, and in exchange, you’ve introduced a massively energy-intensive harvesting process followed by some other probably massively energy-intensive conversion process. This doesn’t seem like a net improvement to me.

Either that or you harvest it including the root system, and yeah, you’ve gotten a lot of raw material, but now your topsoil erodes, and you can’t plant anything there for a thousand years.

The process itself might be useful in some other context, of course, but it seems like a solution in search of a problem.

Hemp?

By evil_aaronm • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Wasn’t hemp supposed to be so good and so cheap that William Hearst fought a war against it to keep his forest empire profitable? Why aren’t we using more hemp, then?

Re:Can’t see the forest for the trees

By SNRatio • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

it seems like a solution in search of a problem.

A solution in search of a subsidy?

Re:Hemp?

By HiThere • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Well, it can’t grow in the same places, but bamboo into paper is already a thing. And it grows quite quickly in the appropriate environment.

Re:Hemp?

By PinkyGigglebrain • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Yes. you are 100% correct.

Try and find a copy of “The Emperor Wears No Cloths” by Jack Herrer. It has the full timeline and loads of informative tid bits about the efforts to keep Hemp Illegal in the USA and abroad and what people are doing to get those laws over turned.

That one book completely changed my views about Hemp. Well worth the effort to find and read.

Fun Trivia:
One acre of Hemp can produce the same amount of usable cellulose in one year as an acre of Trees every 10 years.

Paper can be made from hemp using Hydrogen Peroxide as a bleaching agent. Environmentally friendly and the paper will last literally Millennia. (oldest paper 450BCE, hemp based)

Du Pont was granted a patent in 1936 to make paper using Sulfuric acid. They signed a deal with Hearst to provide cheap paper for Hearst’s news papers. Just as a Hemp based paper was about to become practical due to a new way of processing Hemp stalks.

Hearst did a media blitz against Hemp, only the papers called it by it’s Spanish name “Marijuana” and claimed it made Mexican immigrants violent, Blacks disrespectful (they would look a White man in the eye!!), and made White Women want to have sex with Blacks. Hearst newspapers described it as “a devil weed” the Mexican immigrants were bringing into the country.

The word “Marijuana” wasn’t part of general English before 1936. But everyone knew about Hemp and that it was harmless and incredibly useful.

In 1936 Popular Mechanics described Hemp as a “Billion Dollar Crop”, in 1936 dollars, due to how useful hemp was in just about everything, textiles, food, medicine, and general industries.

The original Levis pants were made from canvas made from, you guessed it, Cannabis. They were so durable the would sometimes be passed from Father to Son.