Alterslash

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Contents

  1. Donald Trump Is Sworn In as 47th President
  2. More Teens Say They’re Using ChatGPT For Schoolwork, a New Study Finds
  3. Europol Chief Says Big Tech Has ‘Responsibility’ To Unlock Encrypted Messages
  4. Nokia’s Day-After iPhone Analysis Proved Eerily Accurate
  5. EU Plans Ban on ‘Forever Chemicals’ in Consumer Products
  6. The Pentagon Says AI is Speeding Up Its ‘Kill Chain’
  7. California Drops Its Pending Zero-Emission Truck Rules
  8. Linux 6.13 Released
  9. After Forced Return-to-Office, Some Amazon Workers Find Not Enough Desks, No Parking
  10. Aptera’s Solar-Powered Electric Car Shown at CES, Finally Nears Production
  11. A Videogame Meets Shakespeare in ‘Grand Theft Hamlet’ Film
  12. In AI Arms Race, America Needs Private Companies, Warns National Security Advisor
  13. Accidents, Not Sabotage, Likely Damaged Baltic Undersea Cables, Say US and European Intelligence Officials
  14. Large-Scale US Solar Farms Brings ‘Solar Grazing’ Work for Sheep
  15. RedNote Scrambles to Hire English-Speaking Content Moderators

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Donald Trump Is Sworn In as 47th President

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Donald Trump was sworn in as the 47th president of the United States on Monday in a ceremony inside the U.S. Capitol’s Rotunda, returning to the White House after defeating Joe Biden in a historic rematch that saw an incumbent president denied a second consecutive term.

Trump, 78, took the oath of office before a packed crowd of lawmakers, dignitaries, and supporters, with Chief Justice John Roberts administering the ceremony. Former presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama attended, continuing a tradition of peaceful transitions of power.

The ceremony, moved indoors due to cold weather, marked several firsts: Trump became the first president to return to office after a defeat, while his running mate J.D. Vance became vice president after being sworn in by Justice Roberts.

In a notable show of corporate support, top technology executives including Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, and Tesla’s Elon Musk sat in prominent positions near the stage.

Prior to the ceremony, Biden and Trump shared a limousine ride to the Capitol, maintaining another inaugural tradition despite their fierce rivalry. Biden, 82, issued several last-minute pardons before departing office, including one for Indigenous activist Leonard Peltier.

Oligarch’s Table?

By ZipK • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

In a notable show of corporate support, top technology executives including Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, and Tesla’s Elon Musk sat in prominent positions near the stage, ahead of Trump’s cabinet nominees.

Not the first

By K. S. Van Horn • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Get your facts straight. Trump is not the first president to be re-elected after a defeat. Grover Cleveland did the same well over a century ago. He was the 22nd and 24th U.S. president.

More relevant than ever

By ArchieBunker • Score: 3 Thread

“Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: ‘The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

-George Carlin

Historic Firsts

By Fnord666 • Score: 3 Thread
Does the list of historic firsts also include the first convicted felon to be elected president?

More Teens Say They’re Using ChatGPT For Schoolwork, a New Study Finds

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A recent poll from the Pew Research Center shows more and more teens are turning to ChatGPT for help with their homework. Three things to know:
1. According to the survey, 26% of students ages 13-17 are using the artificial intelligence bot to help them with their assignments.
2. That’s double the number from 2023, when 13% reported the same habit when completing assignments.
3. Comfort levels with using ChatGPT for different types of assignments vary among students: 54% found that using it to research new topics, for example, was an acceptable use of the tool. But only 18% said the same for using it to write an essay.

Re:good!

By burtosis • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

They keep up with the times—who needs Google anymore?

There was this same hysteria about pocket calculators, then again with symbolic math packages. As long as the student demonstrates comprehension of the larger principles and only uses the tool to help make the process quicker it’s fine. Simply plugging in your math homework to chatGPT and mindlessly copying the answer should get the same result as not showing your work in math.

It ain’t going away. Teach how to use it.

By dmay34 • Score: 3 Thread

LLMs are here. They aren’t going away. So consider the facts:

1) Teaching how to responsibly use the tools is part of the education process. Student should be taught how to accurately enter in prompts to get the results they want, how to review those prompts for accurate information, and how to implement that information into their own work.
2) If your homework or assessment can be beat by ChatGPT, then it wasn’t a good assessment to begin with.
3) If teachers accept that students are going to be using the technology, then they can use that to dig deeper into the subject matter. It’s just like calculators in math classes in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Yes, kids can use them to cheat on arithmetic, and people today can’t do complicated calculations in their heads anymore. But so what? Computer Spreadsheets made people so much more productive and accurate that whole corporate departments just don’t exist at all anymore. And people still have jobs.

Europol Chief Says Big Tech Has ‘Responsibility’ To Unlock Encrypted Messages

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Technology giants must do more to co-operate with law enforcement on encryption or they risk threatening European democracy, according to the head of Europol, as the agency gears up to renew pressure on companies at the World Economic Forum in Davos this week. From a report:
Catherine De Bolle told the Financial Times she will meet Big Tech groups in the Swiss mountain resort to discuss the matter, claiming that companies had a “social responsibility” to give the police access to encrypted messages that are used by criminals to remain anonymous. “Anonymity is not a fundamental right,” said the EU law enforcement agency’s executive director.

“When we have a search warrant and we are in front of a house and the door is locked, and you know that the criminal is inside of the house, the population will not accept that you cannot enter.” In a digital environment, the police needed to be able to decode these messages to fight crime, she added. “You will not be able to enforce democracy [without it].”

And here we go again

By locofungus • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

They will never learn.

The US telecoms US required backdoor has now been totally and utterly compromised by hostile foreign state actors and the US is talking about years to regain full control and kick them all out.

This is something that was supposed to be only accessible to the security services.

Do people really think it’s not going to happen again?

Re:well if apple does something for china they bet

By spacepimp • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Why? Laws, and citizens rights are different in each country. Just because China can demand it doesn’t mean it is legal to demand in another country.

Re:Anonymity is not a fundamental right?

By Baron_Yam • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

We never had anonymity, but we did have privacy. They are looking to take away our privacy and they’re calling it anonymity to make it seem scary.

Cops can get warrants and tap endpoints. Being able to decrypt everything is only necessary to spy on everyone, always.

Re:And here we go again

By necro81 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Indeed. Every time one of these folks trot out how they “need” to be able to decrypt criminals’ messages, I trot out this handy video from CGP Grey. To whit:

“Forced weakness, even with the best of intentions, places everyone in danger. The nature of a keyhole is to be cracked, and the nature of the Internet is to bring demons to the door. No matter how much we might wish it, there is no way to build a digital lock that only angels can open and demons cannot. Anyone saying otherwise is either ignorant of the mathematics, or less of an angel than they appear.”

That video is eight years old, and still manages to succinctly hit the nail on the head.

Enforce Democracy?!

By Frobnicator • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Declaring a need to “enforce democracy” is fundamentally flawed.

It’s been studied by all kinds of academics, it isn’t possible to impose democracy on people who don’t or won’t choose it.

Democracy is, rather tautologically, something chosen by the people. Democracy in the US looks different from democracy in Japan, or Israel, or Germany, because the people choose to abide by different rules. Democracy only works as long as sufficient people are willing to abide by those rules. It is impossible to have independence and self-determination forced on you, that’s the exact opposite of what they are and how they work.

Instead of trying to declare that provable mathematics needs to bend to fit political whims, far better to teach people how to behave broadly and allow people to govern themselves. If a criminals actions can completely be hidden by their own encryption, I’d question just how much harm they are doing. Victims will have plenty of other evidence, the scars of the crime, that can be tied to the criminals. It’s certainly easier for law enforcement if they can peek at all hidden secrets, but that isn’t possible.

Liberty is the mother not the daughter of order. Is liberty only possible if order is first established by force or does order arise best from an atmosphere of liberty, from free people developing their own interpersonal agreements, arrangements, and accommodations to starve off disorder? — Benjamin Tucker, 1885

Nokia’s Day-After iPhone Analysis Proved Eerily Accurate

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Nokia accurately predicted the iPhone would revolutionize the smartphone industry in a confidential analysis prepared the day after Apple unveiled the device in 2007, according to internal documents recently released by Nokia’s Design Archive at Aalto University in Finland.

The presentation praised the iPhone’s touchscreen interface and recognized Apple’s unprecedented control over carrier relationships, though it misjudged the importance of web browsing and Java support.

EU Plans Ban on ‘Forever Chemicals’ in Consumer Products

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The European Commission intends to propose a ban on the use of PFAS, or “forever chemicals”, in consumer products, with exemptions for essential industrial uses, the EU’s environment chief told Reuters. From a report:
PFAS, or Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances, do not break down in the environment, raising concerns about the consequences of them building up in ecosystems, drinking water and the human body. They are used in thousands of items, from cosmetics and non-stick pans to aircraft and wind turbines, due to their resistance to extreme temperatures and corrosion.

“What we know we are looking for is a ban in consumer products,” EU Environment Commissioner Jessika Roswall told Reuters in an interview. “This is something that is important for us human beings, of course, but also for the environment, but I think also for the industry so they know how they can phase out PFAS.”

The Pentagon Says AI is Speeding Up Its ‘Kill Chain’

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An anonymous reader shares a report:
Leading AI developers, such as OpenAI and Anthropic, are threading a delicate needle to sell software to the United States military: make the Pentagon more efficient, without letting their AI kill people. Today, their tools are not being used as weapons, but AI is giving the Department of Defense a “significant advantage” in identifying, tracking, and assessing threats, the Pentagon’s Chief Digital and AI Officer, Dr. Radha Plumb, told TechCrunch in a phone interview.

“We obviously are increasing the ways in which we can speed up the execution of kill chain so that our commanders can respond in the right time to protect our forces,” said Plumb. The “kill chain” refers to the military’s process of identifying, tracking, and eliminating threats, involving a complex system of sensors, platforms, and weapons. Generative AI is proving helpful during the planning and strategizing phases of the kill chain, according to Plumb. The relationship between the Pentagon and AI developers is a relatively new one. OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta walked back their usage policies in 2024 to let U.S. intelligence and defense agencies use their AI systems. However, they still don’t allow their AI to harm humans. “We’ve been really clear on what we will and won’t use their technologies for,” Plumb said, when asked how the Pentagon works with AI model providers.

Coming to a neighborhood near you..

By BytePusher • Score: 3 Thread
It won’t be long before they put a drinking bird on the kill button and it wipes out some of your family and friends. They won’t apologize, because no one will specifically be at fault.

Re:It’s probably why Joe Biden just pardoned

By Tony Isaac • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I think there’s a lot more evidence that the January 6 rioters were guilty of crimes, including murder (7 people died as a result of the insurrection), that Trump has promised to pardon. THAT is an indication of how corrupt the Trump administration will be.

If you think that Cheney was corrupt for investigating an insurrection to the best of her ability, then I want nothing to do with your brand of “justice”. And I say this as a lifelong Republican, which Trump is not.

California Drops Its Pending Zero-Emission Truck Rules

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In 2022 California’s Air Resources Board issued regulations to ban new diesel truck sales by 2036, remembers the Los Angeles Times, and force the owners of diesel trucks to take them off the road by 2042. "The idea was to replace those trucks with electric and hydrogen-powered versions, which dramatically reduce emissions but are currently two to three times more expensive.”

But it would’ve required a federal waiver to enforce those rules — which isn’t going to happen:
The Biden administration hadn’t granted the waivers as of this week, and rather than face almost certain denial by the incoming Trump administration, the state withdrew its waiver request… Trucking representatives had filed a lawsuit to block the rules, arguing they would cause irreparable harm to the industry and the wider economy.
The nonprofit news site CalMatters notes the withdrawal “comes after the Biden administration recently approved the California Air Resources Board’s mandate phasing out new gas-powered cars by 2035, but had not yet approved other waivers for four diesel vehicle standards that the state has adopted… California may have to suspend any future rule-making for vehicles over the next four years of the Trump administration and rely instead on voluntary agreements with engine manufacturers, trucking companies, railroads and other industries.”

The Los Angeles Times adds that California "could, however, pursue waivers at some point in the future.” Under America’s federal Clean Air Act, “California is allowed to set its own air standards, and other states are allowed to follow California’s lead. But federal government waivers are required…”

Re:Lets do the Math… Shall we? ;-)

By MacMann • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

14.7 million Semi trucks registered in California… times the 815lbs of copper for an EV Semi… Equals 11,980,500,000 lbs of copper. (About half of ALL the copper we as humans have managed to mine, SINCE WE STARTED MINING IT commercially, about 125 years ago!) This would toxify approximately 1.2% of the surface of the Earth, to perform that much copper mining. And would bring 100 million pounds of TOXIC heavy metals, to the surface along side it. These are facts. ;-)

That’s interesting. Now I’d like to see the math done how much lithium would be needed. And cobalt. And rare earth metals for the motor magnets and such. I’ve seen some of the numbers and we aren’t moving nearly fast enough to expand mining for these minerals. Part of the problem is from states like California that has so many restrictions on mining that they make it impossible to make a profit, if they allow the mining at all. It seems quite contradictory to demand EVs be produced in large numbers but then keep out the mining and manufacturing that would make meeting these goals far easier. What if every other government in the world did this? Then nothing happens.

Re:Lets do the Math… Shall we? ;-)

By DarkOx • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Well that is the *real* issue; We don’t allow that type of mining because it *is* environmentally destructive. Importantly it tends to have very local very acute impacts vs the very dilute not localized impact of focil fuels when done right.

If are really going to move off carbon (I think that is unrealistic) then we need to acknowledge that it will be incredibly destructive somewhere. Now that somewhere can potentially be where virtually nobody is - like Greenland - but that only solves the storage problem. There is still the matter of generation - and wind and solar alike for the most part at least as implemented today represent massive habitat disruption (if not out right destruction). Wildlife needs unbroken areas of habitat to succeed. That means you can’t have giant power line cuts etc up to every mountain top so you can stick a turbine up there, and it means you can’t cover 10s of thousands 1000s of acres in panels.

FFS look at what a century of damn building taught us about impacts of habitat disruption/destruction and everyone wants to run as fast as they can to doing it the few old growth places (mountain/hillsides) we have left!

Just because it is “renewable” does not make it green.

Re:Think globally, act locally

By Fuzi719 • Score: 4, Informative Thread
No. Bulldozers had to push a mix of vehicles, mostly gas-powered ones, out of the way as they had been abandoned when the owners were trying to evacuate from the fire areas and couldn’t get through quickly enough. The owners had to flee on foot through the heavy smoke and embers.

The numbers are wrong [Re:Lets do the Math…]

By Geoffrey.landis • Score: 5, Informative Thread

But the numbers here are wrong. As far as I can tell, Mr. A.C. just made up figures and assumed nobody would check.

14.7 million Semi trucks registered in California…

According to Forbes, “Approximately 1.8 million heavy-duty trucks on California’s roads will be affected by the new regulation.”

11,980,500,000 lbs of copper [off by an order of magnitude] is about half of ALL the copper we as humans have managed to mine, SINCE WE STARTED MINING IT

According to the USGS, “roughly 700 million metric tons of copper have been produced around the world”. A metric ton is 2205 pounds. So that’s 1.5 trillion pounds, not 24 billion pounds.

The battery tech just isn’t there

By rsilvergun • Score: 4, Informative Thread
There was a guy who bought a Cyber truck to tow his skidoos and boat around and he found he couldn’t make it to the water a hundred miles away. I think the F-150 lightning does better, but it’s still struggles with range when it’s actually being used as a truck.

Don’t get me wrong EV trucks are absolutely fantastic for a lot of use cases. City governments love them when they can afford them because you don’t have to spend time and money putting gas in a vehicle the end of the day and you’re really just making a lot of short drives around fixing things like the sprinkler systems at your parks and recs. I can see the post office loving EV vans for although I think the current administration is going to stop the deployment of them.

But at least right now if you need to tow stuff long distances, which is a very common use case, an electric truck doesn’t cut it.

And then you’re left with the same problem 3D TVs have where a substantial portion of your user base can’t use your product and so you can’t take advantage of economies of scale properly.

Linux 6.13 Released

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“Nothing horrible or unexpected happened last week,” Linux Torvalds posted tonight on the Linux kernel mailing list, “so I’ve tagged and pushed out the final 6.13 release.”

Phoronix says the release has “plenty of fine features”:
Linux 6.13 comes with the introduction of the AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer driver for benefiting multi-CCD Ryzen X3D processors. The new AMD EPYC 9005 “Turin” server processors will now default to AMD P-State rather than ACPI CPUFreq for better power efficiency....

Linux 6.13 also brings more Rust programming language infrastructure and more.
Phoronix notes that Linux 6.13 also brings “the start of Intel Xe3 graphics bring-up, support for many older (pre-M1) Apple devices like numerous iPads and iPhones, NVMe 2.1 specification support, and AutoFDO and Propeller optimization support when compiling the Linux kernel with the LLVM Clang compiler.”

And some lucky Linux kernel developers will also be getting a guitar pedal soldered by Linus Torvalds himself, thanks to a generous offer he announced a week ago:
For _me_ a traditional holiday activity tends to be a LEGO build or two, since that’s often part of the presents… But in addition to the LEGO builds, this year I also ended up doing a number of guitar pedal kit builds (“LEGO for grown-ups with a soldering iron”). Not because I play guitar, but because I enjoy the tinkering, and the guitar pedals actually do something and are the right kind of “not very complex, but not some 5-minute 555 LED blinking thing”…

[S]ince I don’t actually have any _use_ for the resulting pedals (I’ve already foisted off a few only unsuspecting victims^Hfriends), I decided that I’m going to see if some hapless kernel developer would want one.... as an admittedly pretty weak excuse to keep buying and building kits…
“It may be worth noting that while I’ve had good success so far, I’m a software person with a soldering iron. You have been warned… [Y]ou should set your expectations along the lines of ‘quality kit built by a SW person who doesn’t know one end of a guitar from the other.’"

Lazy preemption

By test321 • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The highlight on lwn and kernelnewbies is Lazy Preemption. https://kernelnewbies.org/Linu… https://lwn.net/Articles/99432…
Personally I look forward new schedulers based on this preemption mechanism. I am already extremely impressed by the state of the linux scheduler in my daily routine. Even at very high loads (compiling a big project) and playing a small game or doing some office tasks while I wait, linux is incredibly reactive. “top” might report a ridiculous load like 60x that should make the whole machine lag, but it is barely noticeable, just a small overhead when opening new applications. New schedulers might be even better.

Never underestimate the amateur

By rickb928 • Score: 3 Thread

When I was young, and undirected, I tried building projects out of Popular Electronics. Among these, a pseudorandom generator, which I still have on the original 70s breadboard, and began my long infatuation with XOR gates. Then a NiCad battery rejuvenator of dubious utility, to help manage the pack of 20 cells I used to power a belt mount cassette player to wear while I skated around the city, oh the days*. And out of the blue, a weird analog synthesizer-like gadget to take inputs and modify them beyond recognition. This I made several of, one for a vibraphone player who made good/great use of it, and one for a rock guitar player who asked for mods for a frikin year, drove me crazy. It became a wacko pedal, and he seemed to use it a lot until it finally got dropped off the van and lost. I still resent that.

Linus, go forth and pursue this, you will at least help others have some more fun. A worthy second calling, do not doubt it.

After Forced Return-to-Office, Some Amazon Workers Find Not Enough Desks, No Parking

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Amazon has angered its workers “after forcing them to return to the office five days a week,” reports the New York Post. The problem? "Not enough desks for everyone.” (As well as “packed parking lots” that are turning some workers away.)

The Post cites interviews conducted with seven Amazon employees by Business Insider (which notes that in mid-December Amazon had already “delayed full return-to-office at dozens of locations, sometimes until as late as May, because of office-capacity issues).

Here in mid-January, the Post writes, many returning-to-office workers still aren’t happy:
Some meeting rooms have not had enough chairs — and there also have not been enough meeting rooms for everyone, one worker told the publication… [S]imply reaching the office is a challenge in itself, according to the report. Some complained they were turned away from company parking lots that were full, while others griped about having to join meetings from the road due to excess traffic on their way to the office, according to the Slack messages. Once staffers conquer the challenges of reaching the office and finding a desk, some lamented the lack of in-person discussions since many of the meetings remain virtual, according to BI.
Amazon acknowledged they had offices that were “not quite ready” to “welcome everyone back a full five days a week,” according to Post, though Amazon believed the number of not-quite-ready offices were “relatively small”.

But the parking lot situation may continue. Business Insider says one employee from Amazon’s Nashville office “said the wait time for a company parking pass was backed up for months.” (Although another Nashville staffer said Amazon was handing out passes for them to take mass-transit for free, which they’d described as “incredibly generous.”)

There’s also Amazon shuttle busses, according to the article. Although other staffers “said they were denied a spot on Amazon shuttle buses because the vehicles were full…”
Others said they just drove back home, while some staffers found street parking nearby, according to multiple Slack messages seen by Business Insider…

This month, some employees were still questioning the logic behind the policy. They said being in the office has had little effect on their work routine and has not generated much of a productivity gain. A considerable portion of their in-office work is still being done through video calls with customers who are elsewhere, these employees told BI. Many Amazon colleagues are at other office locations, so face-to-face meetings still don’t happen very often, they added.
The Post adds another drawback of returning to the office. “Employees at Amazon’s Toronto office said their personal belongings have repeatedly been stolen from their desks.”

Re:Almost as if-

By haxor.dk • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

If experiences in other businesses is anything to go by, it’s an underhanded way to get people to quit to reduce headcount.

Hotdesking

By devslash0 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I bet it’s all hotdesking, too. The scourge of modern offices. How is one to feel at ease, psychologically safe and therefore most productive if they sit in a different place every time?

There’s also another angle to it. You’ve got to carry all your laptops and chargers with you. At the same time most corporate equipment policies say that you’re not allowed to leave them in public lockers (gyms, for example). This means that the job is restricting your personal freedom to do what you need to do in your life before and/or after work. You’ve got to go home first to drop off your gear before you go anywhere after work or you’ve got to accept potential consequences of losing your laptop.

Further proof of quiet firing

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

There could be no more conclusive proof that this RTO mandate is a form of quiet firing than there not being enough desks for all of the employees.

Bezos is an even sleazier pile of shit than Musk. One just doesn’t notice as often because he knows how to keep his yap shut about how he’s treating people.

Two things

By quonset • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

1) How did they operate before? They didn’t have this mess prior to everyone going home, did they? How could they suddenly not have enough parking spaces and rooms?

2) Where were the project managers? These are the folks who should have been taking into account the needs of all the people coming back. Enough office space, enough chairs, enough this, enough that. Did they not do this? Did they half-ass it by simply looking around? Did they not talk to anyone?

Or is this one of those move fast, break things situation?

Re: Huh? Just tell them to leave

By Drethon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

My company phone is a mobile!

Or in many cases, my company phone is my mobile.

Aptera’s Solar-Powered Electric Car Shown at CES, Finally Nears Production

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“Engineers have showcased a prototype electric vehicle that can drive for up to 40 miles (64 kilometers) per day using just solar power,” reports LiveScience. The production-ready “Aptera Launch Edition” made its first appearance this month at CES 2025, and “also offers up to 400 miles (640 km) of range from a single charge via an electrical output, company representatives said in a statement.”

LiveScience describes the vehicle as “lighter and more energy-efficient than conventional EVs, while offering a 50% reduction in aerodynamic resistance,” with an energy efficiency rating of 100 Watt-hours per mile (Wh/mile).
By contrast, a Tesla Model S (released in 2022) consumes 194 Wh/mile in the city in mild weather and 288 Wh/mile on the highway in mild weather, according to the EV Database. At a maximum range of 440 miles — including 40 miles using solar power and 400 miles using electricity — the Aptera EV may also overtake the current longest-range vehicles in production. The Mercedes-Benz EQS 450+ has a maximum range of 425 miles (684 km), according to the EV Database, followed by the Lucid Air Grand Touring at 410 miles (660 km).
Aptera says it’s raised $135 million “through equity crowdfunding” to fund its pre-production progress. “Since its launch, the Company has accepted $1.7 billion in pre-orders with nearly 50,000 vehicles reserved by future Aptera owners in the U.S. and internationally.”

MotorTrend writes that “nearly two decades in the making, the otherworldly three-wheel Aptera is headed to production this year as a $40,000, 400-mile EV that can capture up to 40 miles worth of free solar energy every day. Maybe.”
The California startup made similar promises in 2008, 2009, 2012, and 2022 and yet it has never delivered a single vehicle. Is anything different this time…?

At CES, co-CEO (and one of Aptera’s original founders) Chris Anthony told MotorTrend it will take another $60 million to finish the development work, buy the tooling, and build out the Carlsbad, California, assembly plant. “We’re still in fundraising mode and we hope that we inspire some people in this beautiful building (Las Vegas Convention Center) to invest in Aptera,” Anthony said. “We’re trying to raise $20 million in the first quarter of this year. That will basically kick off all the long-lead items to get into production, but it’s a $60 million plan to get into volume production.” Anthony said the company has already made one of its largest purchases, the molds for the carbon-fiber sheet-molding composite body structure and the fiberglass sheet-molding composite body panels that will be made in Italy. The next $20 million will cover the tooling for the diecast metal suspension arms and the injection-molded interior components…

It would be relatively easy for Aptera to hand build cars in a garage and announce the start of production, but the plan calls for building up to 80 cars per day per the guidance of engineering consultant and YouTuber Sandy Munro, who is an Aptera investor and adviser. “He really helped shepherd the design from what was an early prototype prove-out design into how to make the most manufacturable vehicle ever,” Anthony said. The structure is built from just six parts and the entire car has been designed to be put together in a factory with just 12 stations. But that radical simplicity complicates the job at hand right now. In addition to developing the car, the small engineering team also has to create the machine that makes it. Anthony’s plan has the factory ramping up to build 20,000 vehicles a year within nine months of starting production at the end of 2025.

Before that can happen, Aptera needs to clear the same hurdle that tripped it up in 2011 and sent the company stumbling into liquidation — the money. “We would love one investor to be so inspired by what we’re doing that they just hand us a $60 million check,” Anthony told MotorTrend. “But it could be something that’s kind of piecemeal over the next nine months to get that $60 million into the company.” Are you convinced?

Re:First look isn’t encouraging.

By Jeremi • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Just looking at it - no cargo capacity,

You didn’t look very hard, then. It has 25 cubic feet of cargo space; enough to fit a bicycle inside the car.

Source: https://aptera.us/how-big-is-a…

Airplane without wings

By bussdriver • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I wonder if they improved upon airplane design because this looks kind of like a dolphin morphed with a small plane. I bet it’s got lower drag than a small plane with a nose like that.

For me, I hardly drive 40 miles in a week. I’ll rarely need to plug it in with a whole week in the sun! It’ll be odd trying to park in the sun instead of the shade.

I ordered one; I’m sold. wonder how long I have to wait… Hopefully when they ramp up production the price drops. If it sucks like the CyberTruck i’ll drop my order.

At least insurance for these kind of vehicles is lower than a car… A Model 3 is not too much more but it can’t be repaired (Aptera supports right to repair,) doesn’t spy on you, charges little for self driving (more limited self driving for $1k,) has future plans for 1000 mile range. I bet this thing super charges in like 10 minutes? It’s a much smaller battery… The electrical system looks interesting and very hackable… it looks like they are running Arduinos all over the place. Not sure I like the idea of knocking on the door to have it open.

I hope it has an ability to add a motorcycle trailer! that would handle most everything I need.

Feeling Deja Vu

By Pollux • Score: 4, Informative Thread

I’ve seen this song and dance before. It was called Elio Motors. Elio also tried to startup production on an energy-efficient three-wheeled motorcycle back in 2009. Just like Aptera, Elio built prototypes, got crowd funding, and looked exciting. But Elio couldn’t get off the ground with mass-production. It just costs a lot of money to go from prototype to mass-production.

I sure wish it could happen. I’d like it to happen. But I doubt it will.

Re:After all this TikTok stuff I needed a good lau

By ukoda • Score: 5, Informative Thread
64km a day is well worth it as is more that than the average commute in most countries. If you live in the right region, i.e hours of daily sunlight year round, you would never need to plug in.

Where I am with my typical usage I could run on solar only for over most of the year with the occasional charge in the peak of winter.

Re:After all this TikTok stuff I needed a good lau

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Then just bark at the moon.

A Videogame Meets Shakespeare in ‘Grand Theft Hamlet’ Film

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The Los Angeles Times calls it “a guns-blazingly funny documentary about two out-of-work British actors who spent a chunk of their COVID-19 lockdown staging Shakespeare’s masterpiece on the mean streets of Grand Theft Auto V.”

Grand Theft Hamlet won SXSW’s Jury Award for best documentary, and has now opened in U.S. theatres this weekend (and begun streaming on Mubi), after opening in the U.K. and Ireland. But nearly the entire film is set in Grand Theft Auto‘s crime-infested version of Los Angeles, the Times reports, “where even the good guys have weapons and a nihilistic streak — the vengeful Prince of Denmark fits right in.”
Yet when Sam Crane, a.k.a. @Hamlet_thedane, launches into one of the Bard’s monologues, he’s often murdered by a fellow player within minutes. Everyone’s a critic.

Crane co-directed the movie with his wife, Pinny Grylls, a first-time gamer who functions as the film’s camera of sorts. What her character sees, where she chooses to stand and look, makes up much of the film, although the editing team does phenomenal work splicing in other characters’ points of view. (We’re never outside of the game until the last 30 seconds; only then do we see anyone’s real face....) The Bard’s story is only half the point. Really, this is a classic let’s-put-on-a-pixilated-show tale about the need to create beauty in the world — even this violent world — especially when stage productions in England have shuttered, forcing Crane, a husband and father, and Mark Oosterveen, single and lonely, to kill time speeding around the digital desert…

To our surprise (and theirs), the play’s tussles with depression and anguish and inertia become increasingly resonant as the production and the pandemic limps toward their conclusions. When Crane and Oosterveen’s “Grand Theft Auto” avatars hop into a van with an anonymous gamer and ask this online stranger for his thoughts on Hamlet’s suicidal soliloquy, the man, a real-life delivery driver stuck at home with a broken leg, admits, “I don’t think I’m in the right place to be replying to this right now....”
In 2014 Hamlet was also staged in Guild Wars 2, the article points out. “This is, however, the first attempt I’m aware of that attempts to do the whole thing live in one go, no matter if one of the virtual actors falls to their doom from a blimp.

“As Grylls says, ‘You can’t stop production just because somebody dies.’"

Not on Mubi

By Dripdry • Score: 3 Thread

well, I don’t know about anybody else, but I went to check this out on Mubi and it’s not there…

This is a documentary about the creation

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Where is the creation itself?

In AI Arms Race, America Needs Private Companies, Warns National Security Advisor

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America’s outgoing national security adviser has “wide access to the world’s secrets,” writes Axios, adding that the security adviser delivered a “chilling” warning that “The next few years will determine whether AI leads to catastrophe — and whether China or America prevails in the AI arms race.”

But in addition, Sullivan “said in our phone interview that unlike previous dramatic technology advancements (atomic weapons, space, the internet), AI development sits outside of government and security clearances, and in the hands of private companies with the power of nation-states… ‘There’s going to have to be a new model of relationship because of just the sheer capability in the hands of a private actor,’ Sullivan says…”
Somehow, government will have to join forces with these companies to nurture and protect America’s early AI edge, and shape the global rules for using potentially God-like powers, he says. U.S. failure to get this right, Sullivan warns, could be “dramatic, and dramatically negative — to include the democratization of extremely powerful and lethal weapons; massive disruption and dislocation of jobs; an avalanche of misinformation…”

To distill Sullivan: America must quickly perfect a technology that many believe will be smarter and more capable than humans. We need to do this without decimating U.S. jobs, and inadvertently unleashing something with capabilities we didn’t anticipate or prepare for. We need to both beat China on the technology and in shaping and setting global usage and monitoring of it, so bad actors don’t use it catastrophically. Oh, and it can only be done with unprecedented government-private sector collaboration — and probably difficult, but vital, cooperation with China…

There’s no person we know in a position of power in AI or governance who doesn’t share Sullivan’s broad belief in the stakes ahead…

That said, AI is like the climate: America could do everything right — but if China refuses to do the same, the problem persists and metastasizes fast. Sullivan said Trump, like Biden, should try to work with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on a global AI framework, much like the world did with nuclear weapons.
“I personally am not an AI doomer,” Sullivan says in the interview. “I am a person who believes that we can seize the opportunities of AI. But to do so, we’ve got to manage the downside risks, and we have to be clear-eyed and real about those risks.”

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader Mr_Blank for sharing the article.

what risk?

By evanh • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The risk of stupidly hooking up a gun to a random number generator and thinking that’s capable of deciding on right from wrong.

Re:Here it comes…

By narcc • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That’s exactly what it is. Virtually all of so-called ‘government waste’ happens on the private side of private-public partnerships. When not being actively sabotaged, government agencies are almost terrifyingly efficient.

The simple and inescapable fact is that every dollar in profit a private company makes on a government contract is a dollar of taxpayer money wasted. It’s obvious, once you think about it. A private company needs to make a profit. They can only do that two ways: reducing costs or increasing revenue. ‘Revenue’, of course, just means ‘sucking on the federal teat’, so it’s virtually impossible for a public-private partnership to actually save taxpayer’s money.

There is no reason why, for example, the US can design and build their own fighter planes faster, better, and cheaper than throwing money into the bottomless pit of Lockheed-Martin. Not only would we save a fortune, we’d have planes that actually fly. More and more people are waking up to the reality that government exists to serve the interests of the people … and that private companies do not.

Glad to see Jake go

By WaffleMonster • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Good riddance to that sniveling little weasel.

“I personally am not an AI doomer”

“We need to both beat China on the technology and in shaping and setting global usage and monitoring of it, so bad actors don’t use it catastrophically. Oh, and it can only be done with unprecedented government-private sector collaboration and probably difficult, but vital, cooperation with China”

“Somehow, government will have to join forces with these companies to nurture and protect America’s early AI edge, and shape the global rules for using potentially God-like powers, he says.”

Surprise those with power see a potential source of power and drumroll the answer is we must control it for your safety. No acknowledgement of reality AI can’t be monitored or controlled. No recognition of the inherent perils of aggregating “God-like powers” into the hands of governments and or corporations. No consideration of the inherently arrogant and foolish position of thinking it is possible to control “God-like powers” in the first place. No recognition of the fact the real power comes from enabling global knowledge and industrial base not whatever specific corporations and governments elect to do.

At the end of the day the only workable solution to the bad actor with an AI genie is a good actor with an AI genie.

If AI eventually advances to the point where it can replace virtually all human intellectual labor expect corporations to be the first to scream bloody murder as randos in small teams accomplish what previously required massive corporate capital investments to achieve.

Re:what risk?

By Entrope • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Anyone who knows something about programming knows there are no true random number generators.

Maybe you should tell that to the people who wrote NIST SP 800-90B, and the other people who put a lot of effort into designing and building RNGs that are very reliable sources of entropy. There’s at least one open source widget for that.

You can’t get true randomness from a software-only device, but commodity OSes use factors like interrupt timing (from mice, networks or keyboards) and similar to harvest entropy from normal hardware. Some CPUs have “true” random bit generators built in, although there are obvious security risks there.

Risk of abundance misused by scarcity fears

By Paul Fernhout • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

As I wrote in 2010: https://pdfernhout.net/recogni…
“There is a fundamental mismatch between 21st century reality and 20th century security thinking. Those “security” agencies are using those tools of abundance, cooperation, and sharing mainly from a mindset of scarcity, competition, and secrecy. Given the power of 21st century technology as an amplifier (including as weapons of mass destruction), a scarcity-based approach to using such technology ultimately is just making us all insecure. Such powerful technologies of abundance, designed, organized, and used from a mindset of scarcity could well ironically doom us all whether through military robots, nukes, plagues, propaganda, or whatever else… Or alternatively, as Bucky Fuller and others have suggested, we could use such technologies to build a world that is abundant and secure for all. … The big problem is that all these new war machines [and competitive companies] and the surrounding infrastructure are created with the tools of abundance. The irony is that these tools of abundance are being wielded by people still obsessed with fighting over scarcity. So, the scarcity-based political mindset driving the military [and economic] uses the technologies of abundance to create artificial scarcity. That is a tremendously deep irony that remains so far unappreciated by the mainstream.”

Accidents, Not Sabotage, Likely Damaged Baltic Undersea Cables, Say US and European Intelligence Officials

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The Washington Post reports:
Ruptures of undersea cables that have rattled European security officials in recent months were likely the result of maritime accidents rather than Russian sabotage, according to several U.S. and European intelligence officials.

The determination reflects an emerging consensus among U.S. and European security services, according to senior officials from three countries involved in ongoing investigations of a string of incidents in which critical seabed energy and communications lines have been severed… [S]o far, officials said, investigations involving the United States and a half-dozen European security services have turned up no indication that commercial ships suspected of dragging anchors across seabed systems did so intentionally or at the direction of Moscow. Instead, U.S. and European officials said that the evidence gathered to date — including intercepted communications and other classified intelligence — points to accidents caused by inexperienced crews serving aboard poorly maintained vessels.

U.S. officials cited “clear explanations” that have come to light in each case indicating a likelihood that the damage was accidental, and a lack of evidence suggesting Russian culpability. Officials with two European intelligence services said that they concurred with U.S. assessments. Despite initial suspicions that Russia was involved, one European official said there is “counter evidence” suggesting otherwise. The U.S. and European officials declined to elaborate and spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of ongoing investigations…

A Nordic official briefed on the investigation said conditions on the tanker were abysmal. “We’ve always gone out with the assumption that shadow fleet vessels are in bad shape,” the official said. “But this was even worse than we thought....” European security officials said that Finland’s main intelligence service is in agreement with Western counterparts that the Dec. 25 incident appears to have been an accident, though they cautioned that it may be impossible to rule out a Russian role.
The article points out another reason Russia might not want to draw attention to the waterways around NATO countries. Doing so “could endanger oil smuggling operations Russia has relied on to finance the war in Ukraine, and possibly provoke more aggressive efforts by Western governments to choke off Russia’s route to the North Atlantic.”

Re:Hanlon’s Razor, sort of

By tchdab1 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

What happened to the stories of a shadow fleet of “soviet” tankers, and the one that dragged anchor and broke the cables, that was boarded and seized by Finland, was chock full of spy electronics in a dedicated deck staffed by Russian technos?
I think I have whiplash.

Re:some common sense for a change

By RossCWilliams • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

surprised they have actually come to an intelligent conclusion rather than the usual conspiracy garbage.

They already got the propaganda mileage from the conspiracy theory, it no longer serves much purpose. And the conspiracy theory will continue to have legs as you can tell by the people here who refuse to believe it wasn’t deliberate.

WaPo gaslighting with anonymous sources

By quax • Score: 5, Informative Thread

But even those didn’t say what the /. summary purports.

The article stated that it is difficult to prove intent.

The Fins on the other hand seem to be quite confident that they can.
https://www.reuters.com/world/…

Re:Hanlon’s Razor, sort of

By quenda • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The “shadow fleet” is well known, , of course Russia has ships to get around western sanctions. What did we think would happen?
And severing or damage to undersea cables by ships is a common event, perhaps hundreds of incidents per year. So when you see a cluster, maybe it is a conspiracy, or maybe apply Hanlon’s Razor.

The spy equipment on the Eagle S is little more than a rumour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

You might as well ask what happened to the UFO fleet that was terrorising the US a couple of months ago.

The Finns don’t agree, even if WaPo says they do.

By MarkWegman • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Finnish National Bureau of Investigation lead investigator Sami Liimatainen says he wasn’t contacted by WaPo, which published a story earlier today claiming that an emerging consensus among U.S. and European security services holds that recent Baltic seabed cable damage was accidental.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20137924

And the Finns should have the most informatoin

Large-Scale US Solar Farms Brings ‘Solar Grazing’ Work for Sheep

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“As large-scale solar farms crop up across the U.S.,” reports ABC News, “the booming solar industry has found an unlikely mascot…” Sheep.
In Milam County, outside Austin [Texas], SB Energy operates the fifth-largest solar project in the country, capable of generating 900 megawatts of power across 4,000 acres (1,618 hectares). How do they manage all that grass? With the help of about 3,000 sheep, which are better suited than lawnmowers to fit between small crevices and chew away rain or shine. The proliferation of sheep on solar farms is part of a broader trend — solar grazing — that has exploded alongside the solar industry. Agrivoltaics, a method using land for both solar energy production and agriculture, is on the rise with more than 60 solar grazing projects in the U.S., according to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory.

The American Solar Grazing Association says 27 states engage in the practice. “The industry tends to rely on gas-powered mowers, which kind of contradicts the purpose of renewables,” SB Energy asset manager James Hawkins said… Because solar fields use sunny, flat land that is often ideal for livestock grazing, the power plants have been used in coordination with farmers rather than against them....

Some agriculture experts say [solar sheepherders’] success reflects how solar farms have become a boon for some ranchers. Reid Redden, a sheep farmer and solar vegetation manager in San Angelo, Texas, said a successful sheep business requires agricultural land that has become increasingly scarce. “Solar grazing is probably the biggest opportunity that the sheep industry had in the United States in several generations,” Redden said. The response to solar grazing has been overwhelmingly positive in rural communities near South Texas solar farms where Redden raises sheep for sites to use, he said. “I think it softens the blow of the big shock and awe of a big solar farm coming in,” Redden said.

Dick

By bugs2squash • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Are these the sheep of which androids dream ?

Calling General Specific

By DrMrLordX • Score: 3 Thread

Now he can use Sheep AND an entire solar array to power his sheep-powered ray gun!

Gas mowers?!

By GrahamJ • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

The sheep make sense but why were they using gas mowers before? All that electricity right there and they didn’t use battery powered ones?!

Re:Dick

By Temkin • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Also, there’s cheaper ways to produce electricity, and ways that aren’t removing the ability of the land to produce crops such as wind power.

I live a few miles west of that installation. You can easily pick it out on Google Maps. Zoom in on the area just north of Manda, Texas…

While I understand the sentiment… The area is “Blackland prairie”, with lots of expansive clay’s in the soils. Mostly field corn, milo, and cotton are grown… Corn gets planted in early March, and is over and done by July. Too hot in the summer for much else. By July if there’s no tropical storms, everything else needs irrigation or dies.

Also… Hydro is mostly a joke in Texas. The whole state has 4 natural lakes. All the rest are man made. They do have hydro power plants, but they’re low head and hence low output. The lakes are to save the precious water, and for flood control.

T

Re:Dick

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 5, Informative Thread

I’d rather we’d not put solar panels over land that is suited for growing crops.

Solar works best where there are few clouds, which means little rain, which means not good for growing crops.

Pasture requires less rain than row crops.

with so much of the land in shadow it’s not going to be producing near the same amount of grass for the sheep as if left as an open field.

Not true.

In arid regions, the limit for plant growth is water, not sunshine, so the partial shade from the panels actually increases the yield by reducing evaporation and lowering the soil temperature.

Data shows improved grass forage under solar panels.

The panels also provide shade for the sheep.

RedNote Scrambles to Hire English-Speaking Content Moderators

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ABC News reported that the official newspaper of China’s communist party is claiming TikTok refugees on RedNote found a “new home,” and “openness, communication, and mutual learning are… the heartfelt desires of people from all countries.”

But in fact, Wired reports, “China’s Cyberspace Administration, the country’s top internet watchdog, has reportedly already grown concerned about content being shared by foreigners on Xiaohongshu,” and “warned the platform earlier this week to ‘ensure China-based users can’t see posts from U.S. users,’ according to The Information.”

And that’s just the beginning. Wired reports that RedNote is now also “scrambling to hire English-speaking moderators.”
Social media platforms in China are legally required to remove a wide range of content, including nudity and graphic violence, but especially information that the government deems politically sensitive… “RedNote — like all platforms owned by Chinese companies — is subject to the Chinese Communist Party’s repressive laws,” wrote Allie Funk, research director for technology and democracy at the nonprofit human rights organization Freedom House, in an email to WIRED. “Independent researchers have documented how keywords deemed sensitive to those in power, such as discussion of labor strikes or criticism of Xi Jinping, can be scrubbed from the platform.”

But the influx of American TikTok users — as many as 700,000 in merely two days, according to Reuters — could be stretching Xiaohongshu’s content moderation abilities thin, says Eric Liu, an editor at China Digital Times, a California-based publication documenting censorship in China, who also used to work as a content moderator himself for the Chinese social media platform Weibo… Liu reposted a screenshot on Bluesky showing that some people who recently joined Xiaohongshu have received notifications that their posts can only be shown to other users after 48 hours, seemingly giving the company time to determine whether they may be violating any of the platform’s rules. This is a sign that Xiaohongshu’s moderation teams are unable to react swiftly, Liu says…

While the majority of the new TikTok refugees still appear to be enjoying their time on Xiaohongshu, some have already had their posts censored. Christine Lu, a Taiwanese-American tech entrepreneur who created a Xiaohongshu account on Wednesday, says she was suspended after uploading three provocative posts about Tiananmen, Tibet, and Taiwan. “I support more [Chinese and American] people engaging directly. But also, knowing China, I knew it wouldn’t last for long,” Lu tells WIRED.
Despite the 700,000 signups in two days, “It’s also worth nothing that the migration to RedNote is still very small, and only a fraction of the 170 million people in the US who use TikTok,” notes The Conversation. (And they add that “The US government also has the authority to pressure Apple to remove RedNote from the US App Store if it thinks the migration poses a national security threat.”)

One nurse told the Los Angeles Times Americans signed up for the app because they “just don’t want to give in” to “bullying” by the U.S. government. (The Times notes she later recorded a video acknowledging that on the Chinese-language app, “I don’t know what I’m doing, I don’t know what I’m reading, I’m just pressing buttons.”)
On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Chinese officials had discussed the possibility of selling TikTok to a trusted non-Chinese party such as Elon Musk, who already owns social media platform X. However, analysts said that Bytedance is unlikely to agree to a sale of the underlying algorithm that powers the app, meaning the platform under a new owner could still look drastically different.

all you have to do is give up your US citizenship!

By Joe_Dragon • Score: 4, Funny Thread

all you have to do is give up your US citizenship!

Re:all you have to do is give up your US citizensh

By bussdriver • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

I’m sure there are other TicToc clones out there but they go pick the one inspired by Mao? This is like the cows complaining the farmer took away their oats so they run away to the butcher’s feed lot!

They already skipped voting or picked the Man who began the ban in the 1st place. Why wouldn’t they make more foolish decisions?

Of course

By quonset • Score: 3 Thread

Wouldn’t want Chinese people to hear about the massacre in Tiananmen Square or the concentration camps of the Uhyghrs or the kids stabbing and killing students. Because facts are dangerous in China.

Re:Of course

By test321 • Score: 4, Informative Thread

China’s response to Uyghur has been called a genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… This already the worst possible crime on the book . There is no need for executions for a genocide to occur; mass sterilizations and forced abortions were the means in use. I don’t see the purpose of comparing with Israel. China’s current reaction is evil in absolute on its own worth, not by comparison to any other situation past or present.

Interesting …

By larryjoe • Score: 3 Thread

“Americans signed up for the app because they “just don’t want to give in” to “bullying” by the U.S. government.” —> Yet, these Americans have no problems with bullying by the Chinese government (as the lady who posted about Tiananmen, Tibet, and Taiwan experienced).

“a trusted non-Chinese party such as Elon Musk” —> What does that say about American national security when a high-level government advisor is a “a trusted non-Chinese party”?