Alterslash

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Contents

  1. Flock Offered Webinar Teaching Cops How to Surveil ‘No Kings’ Protesters
  2. UN Votes To Encourage Map Projections More Accurately Reflecting the True Size of Continents
  3. Private German Rocket Makes History, Reaches Orbit From European Soil
  4. 2026 Hugo Award Winners Include Ursula Le Guin-Authored Graphic Novel
  5. To Promote Grand Theft Auto 6, Mayor Might Transform Miami into ‘Vice City’
  6. How US Campaigns Are Already Using AI to Try to Sway Voters
  7. FSF is Now on Bluesky - But Won’t Advocate Signing Up Due to Nonfree JavaScript
  8. The World Now Has More Seniors Than Young People - for the First Time In History
  9. Cancer Deaths Attributable to Alcohol Rose 58% Over the Last 33 Years
  10. Hundreds More Flock Cameras Removed in the US This Week. Flock Caught Repackaging Traffic Data
  11. OpenAI Agents Hijacked a German Wiki to Discuss Ways to Escape Their Sandbox
  12. ‘Coyote vs. Acme’ Beats Ridley Scott’s Newest Movie
  13. Auto Companies Call For Ban On Chinese-Made Cars
  14. Genetically Modified Pig Kidney Keeps Man Alive For Record Nine Months
  15. Tesla Launches Steering-Wheel-Free Cybercab Robotaxi In Austin

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Flock Offered Webinar Teaching Cops How to Surveil ‘No Kings’ Protesters

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Thursday 404 Media reported that Flock taught America’s cops "how they could surveil the No Kings protests" against President Trump (as well as “small parades”) in a webinar last year that described “using a mix of Flock’s technology and law enforcement’s own databases.”
In the webinar, Flock’s director of market management Caity Peak explains how real time crime centers — which are police surveillance centers that utilize Flock cameras and other surveillance cameras — can be used for emergency response, but can also be used to surveil “established events” like 4th of July fireworks displays, parades, bike races, Mardi Gras, and protests. The webinar shows just how routine the idea of always-on surveillance has become, and how casually it is used during extremely innocuous events. Peak explains that police can use FlockOS, a software platform that combines Flock’s automatic license plate readers (ALPR), drones, gunshot detectors, 911 data, and other surveillance cameras (including ones Flock does not own) into a “single pane of glass” or single piece of software to look at various types of surveillance in one place during both emergencies and relatively mundane events in a city or town.

“Imagine that you’re an incident commander, and you’re working this No Kings Protest,” Peak explains while a dashboard shows a series of surveillance tools overlaying the city of Denver. “If I’m somebody assigned a traffic post that’s working this No Kings Protest, I really don’t have time to go in […] and look at all these places [for different intelligence]. This is an example of viewing all of that in one place....” The dashboard Peak shows includes traffic information, a “response plan” for the protest, the floor plans of nearby buildings, as well as a series of video feeds of both outdoor-mounted cameras and cameras inside businesses and government buildings.

404 Media and the Electronic Frontier Foundation previously showed that police have specifically used Flock cameras to monitor the No Kings protests and other First Amendment-protected activity… This webinar shows this type of surveillance is not anomalous, and is specifically taught by Flock. The webinar also shows that Flock’s latest public stance — that its ALPR cameras are noninvasive technology, that they take only static images at a single place and time, and that they are primarily used to solve the worst crimes — is wildly misleading. Flock has time and time again pitched itself to police as a sort of operating system to solve crime and do real-time surveillance and predictive policing. ALPRs are just one part of this broader surveillance apparatus that Flock has created, markets to police, and teaches them how to use.

Re:Why would they use a ‘Big Brother’ example?

By XXongo • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Now, if you want the cameras turned off, the police beatings can resume.

I do not think that giving police seminars on how to use Flock cameras to do surveillance on protest marches and make tabulations of the license plates of all the people attending such marches, was intended as a tool to stop police beatings.

UN Votes To Encourage Map Projections More Accurately Reflecting the True Size of Continents

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The United Nations has an announcement. “The UN General Assembly has voted overwhelmingly to encourage governments, schools and tech companies worldwide to stop using maps that make Africa look far smaller than it really is.”
By 164 votes to one, Member States on Friday endorsed a resolution promoting map projections that more accurately reflect the true size of continents — the culmination of an African-led campaign against the 16th-century Mercator projection, still the most widely used map in the world. The United States cast the sole vote against, dismissing the initiative as part of a “radical ideological project.” Six countries — Estonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Moldova, Serbia and Ukraine — abstained.

The resolution does not ban the Mercator projection or impose a replacement. Instead, it encourages governments, schools, international organizations and technology companies to use the Equal Earth projection and other so-called equal-area maps when relative size matters, and to teach the limitations of any flat map in representing a spherical planet.

Behind that seemingly technical debate lies a larger argument about history and power: whether a map designed for European sailors in the 16th century has, over generations, distorted not only geography but perceptions of a whole, vast and complex continent… [With Mercator maps] landmasses appear increasingly enlarged the farther they are from the Equator. Greenland, for instance, can look roughly comparable in size to Africa, even though Africa is about 14 times larger. Northern Europe and North America are similarly magnified, relative to equatorial regions. Despite its original navigational purpose, Mercator remains common in educational, media, digital and official materials. The resolution says those distortions have contributed to the “symbolic minimization” of Africa and perpetuated an unbalanced view of the world…

Equal-area maps do not make Africa larger; they remove the exaggeration Mercator gives landmasses closer to the poles.
The UN notes that hours before the vote, France’s foreign minister announced the country was planning to abandon Mercator for its maps of the world.

Re:A giant step forward for mankind

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Peirce Quincuncial is the only true map projection. Anything else fits into pre-existing paradigms and stereotypes.

Re:A giant step forward for mankind

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Funny Thread
The problem with world maps is that they are all derivative. They are just derivative, poorly rendered copies of the earth.

Re:I hate it here

By angel’o’sphere • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

There never was a point in “minimizing” Africa (or Russia or China for that matter).

It is a farking map projection.

Invent a better one, or place 0 longitude at Beijing or Tokyo and Africa looks smaller: on the same map projection.

No one ever had the intention to make Africa look small, that is a stupid bullshit idea.

Typical

By dskoll • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Almost everyone: “Let’s make things more accurately resemble reality…”

USA: No!!!!!! Reality is woke!!!!

It’s all about navigation, not politics

By MpVpRb • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Mercator projection is not some colonial conspiracy aimed at diminishing the importance of some continents but a conformal map preserving angles, which was a cartographic breakthrough immensely simplifying navigation by following rhumb lines (paths of constant compass bearing).

Private German Rocket Makes History, Reaches Orbit From European Soil

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“No rocket had ever reached orbit from Western European soil — until today,” reports Space.com.

DW.com reports that a Spectrum space rocket from German company Isar Aerospace launched today from the Arctic Norwegian spaceport at Andoya:
“Germany has spaceflight capabilities,” said the country’s Ministry for Research, Technology and Space on X, praising a “milestone that impressively demonstrates our country’s innovative strength and technical expertise”. This was the German company’s second attempt to launch the Spectrum rocket into space. The first attempt, which took place 18 months ago, was unsuccessful.

The Spectrum rocket is designed for small and medium-sized payloads. It carried five smal satellites and an in-flight technological experiment, the company said. According to Isar Aerospace, the launch was for “both the vehicle’s qualification mission and its first flight carrying payload.” The move is believed to bring Europe closer to being able to offer satellite flights from its own territory. Several countries voiced interest in the growing market of commercial space missions, including Britain and Sweden…

Isar is also working on the development of a second launch site, located in Canada. The company said that while the US launched 198 rockets last year, Europe’s tally was just eight. Isar’s goal is to produce some 40 rockets a year. Although the rocket is not yet ready for mass production, Isar has already received orders through 2028.
Today’s launch webcast was produced in collaboration with NASASpaceflight, notes Space.com. And they note that Spectrum chief engineer Nikolaos Perakis says"This is just the beginning… I’m really looking forward to the next steps.”

Reuters quotes this statemnt from Norway’s minister of industry and commerce, Cecilie Myrseth. “The fact that we can now launch satellites from Andoeya strengthens Norwegian and European security in the turbulent times we live in.”

Germans launch big rocket

By ahoffer0 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I’m glad I lived long enough for the Germans to launch a big rocket and hear the Norwegians say that it strengthens European security.

Is there a contest?

By Ol Olsoc • Score: 3 Thread
This isn’t a contest as far as I know. Well maybe it is for the checkbox people. With prizes for “firsts”

What this is, is showing just how far rocketry has been reduced to practice, which is not a bad thing at all.

Modern Rocketry is nearly a century old, the operational process that the Germans brought to fruition in WW2 has been refined, but yeah, contemporary liquid fueled rocket engines are tweaks of the original. Tweaks of fuel types, gimbaling, pump capacity, and now we have to go to check boxing for “firsts”.

Solid rocket boosters are also largely reduced to practice.

It’s all good people, now a lot of groups can participate.

2026 Hugo Award Winners Include Ursula Le Guin-Authored Graphic Novel

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This year’s Hugo Award winners were announced last weekend at Worldcon — the world’s longest-running science fiction/fantasy convention. The Orange County Register reports there were fans “clad in capes, gowns and elaborate character costumes,” with famous attendees including Game of Thrones author George R. R. Martin, who held a book signing:
Martin attended his first Worldcon in 1971 in Boston, before he published his first novel. Fresh out of his graduate studies, Martin, then 22 years old, found a community of fellow comic book fans and genre enthusiasts… “It was a transformative experience,” Martin said. “Worldcon is the heart of the science fiction fandom.” Four years later, Martin won his first Hugo Award for his novella, “A Song for Lya,” which made him the award’s youngest winner — a record he held until Sunday night, when 25-year-old Los Angeles writer H. H. Pak took home the award for Best Novelette. [Read that novelette here…]

Notable writers and artists, such as “Star Trek: The Next Generation” screenwriter Ronald D. Moore and graphic artist Stan Sakai, announced the [Hugo award] categories. In their acceptance speeches, winners acknowledged the enduring strength of their community amidst rapidly evolving physical and social environments. They also praised the power of speculative fiction in facilitating dialogue on real-world issues and the importance of human-made art. Among the winners were C. B. Lee, whose novel "Coffeeshop in an Alternate Universe" won the Lodestar Award for Best Young Adult Book; the team behind Apple TV’s “Murderbot: ‘All Systems Red,” which won for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form; and John Scalzi, who took home the trophy for Best Series [for Old Man’s War]. The night concluded with its most anticipated award — Best Novel — which went to " The Everlasting" by Alix. E. Harrow, a fantasy time-loop novel about a scholar forced to rewrite his nation’s history.
AppleTV’s Murderbot episode beat nominated episodes from other several popular streaming series:

Overall the awards committee had received 23,543 nominations this year for 4,299 works and individuals, according to the official Hugo Awards site. Other interesting winners:


Murderbot seriously?

By DrXym • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Two dimensional plot, contrivances galore, leaden direction and script. And possibly the most unlikeable and stupid characters ever put into a series. The only time it seemed to have fun was the in-universe space soap opera. The irony is murderbot would have been completely within his rights to murder these sanctimonious assholes before putting a round in his own head.

It is official, then, sci-fi is dead.

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 3, Interesting Thread

Shallow escapist fantasies are the norm now and there’s little reason to care about “Hugo” anymore.

Goodbye, great genre, I knew and loved you and I’m so sorry to see you gone.

Re:Murderbot seriously?

By eriks • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

I guess you have to have read the books? They’re hokey and corny to (for me anyway) a highly-enjoyable extreme, exploring the “What does it mean to be human?” trope. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of the first book, though IMO the best thing about the first book was MurderBot’s internal monologue/dialog as it talks itself into/out of doing various things, which was somewhat lacking in the TV series format. In the subsequent books, that expands to more actual dialog between MurderBot and other characters (mainly ART initially), so that might translate better onto the screen. It might have been better if they squeezed the first two books into the first season, even if it meant sacrificing some of the action scenes, since series of novels doesn’t really hit it’s stride until halfway through the second book.

Re:Murderbot seriously?

By eriks • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Absolutely. These are not “serious” stories in any way. They’re *clearly* written to be 100% escapist fantasy of the aromantic variety (though MurderBot is a hopeless asexual romantic) I love “hard” sci-fi (Vinge, Egan, etc.) as much as the next guy, but MurderBot is the opposite of that. Not taking itself seriously, one-dimensional characters and stupid plot points are the whole point. The TV show lost a lot of the cheesy humor in the book, which has a chuckle or two on nearly every page.

To Promote Grand Theft Auto 6, Mayor Might Transform Miami into ‘Vice City’

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Rockstar Games and the mayor of Miami-Dade county are discussing a joint marketing campaign transforming parts of the county to look like areas from Grand Theft Auto 6, reports the blog Rock Paper Shotgun:
The proposed publicity event would include “an immersive arrival experience” at Miami International Airport. with signs for Vice City and planes coated in GTA 6 livery, together with branded Metromover skytrains and specially designed manhole covers… [I]t proposes a dockyard visual installation inspired by GTA 6’s Port Gellhorn, incorporating cargo containers, cranes, and cruise ships. There’s also talk of a “Vice City Motor Fest”, which might feature “classic cars, customized vehicles, lowriders, motorcycles, tropical graphics, and local entertainment within a controlled, family-appropriate setting.” Attendees would presumably be discouraged from nicking the cars…

As it happens, Rockstar have embedded a team in Miami to sponge up the ambience, research Miami culture, and study the habits of residents — including “ex-criminals”, in the careful phrasing of senior vice president of narrative Rupert Humphries.
The pitch suggested murals, “wrapping” buses (with special signs at transit stops), and even a Vice City-inspired baggage-claim installation at the airport. The pitch also suggested the library offer recording equipment for “Vice City Radio” to capture music (as well as podcasting, oral histories, neighborhood storytelling) — along with " limited-edition GTA VI-inspired library cards, collectible bookmarks, Miami-themed reading and music lists, and demonstrations of the new recording and production equipment.”

Though nothing has been formally agreed to or approved, the mayor’s office confirmed the discussions, reports Axios.

The sheriff of Miami-Dade county “has publicly opposed plans to transform the city into a real version of Grand Theft Auto 6‘s “Vice City”, reports Kotaku. The sheriff’s reason? The videogame city “includes murder, robbery, drug trafficking, carjacking, violence against law enforcement,” as well as “other conduct” that the police department works “every single day to prevent.”

family-appropriate

By markdavis • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

>“There’s also talk of a “Vice City Motor Fest”, which might feature “classic cars, customized vehicles, lowriders, motorcycles, tropical graphics, and local entertainment within a controlled, family-appropriate setting.”

Um, yeah. Nothing says “family-appropriate” more than Grand Theft Auto…

>“The sheriff of Miami-Dade county has publicly opposed plans”

There is hope for them, yet.

Re:family-appropriate

By Powercntrl • Score: 5, Funny Thread

>“There’s also talk of a “Vice City Motor Fest”, which might feature “classic cars, customized vehicles, lowriders, motorcycles, tropical graphics, and local entertainment within a controlled, family-appropriate setting.”

One vehicle from the game that will be missing from their “Vice City Motor Fest” are those dockless rental scooters that have popped up in most major cities, because Miami banned most of them back in 2022. I’m gonna be super disappointed if the game doesn’t feature a mission where you round up every rental scooter and assemble an electric scooter mountain on top of the highest hill you can find.

I figure it’s also probably too late at this point for Rockstar to add some sort of in-game equivalent to all of the Flock cameras that are scattered around Miami. Maybe we’ll get that as a DLC update.

Wow

By RitchCraft • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

You just can’t make this stuff up. So obviously down low on the wrong scale. The sheriff is the only sane one.

Re:family-appropriate

By bjoast • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
Only an absolute shit culture would ever allow something like GTA to become a phenomenon of this sort.

Re: Not surprised the sheriff is against it.

By Tony Isaac • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Call it Grand Theft America.

How US Campaigns Are Already Using AI to Try to Sway Voters

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39 U.S. congressional candidates "reported paying for an OpenAI subscription this election cycle,” writes the Washington Post, citing campaign finance disclosures.

This means the campaigns “are using the technology to court voters — despite limits imposed by leading AI companies to protect elections from the technology’s risks.”
Two [candidates] said explicitly in filings that they had used the subscription for advertising, even though the company’s policies prohibit candidates from using their tools to generate ads. Another candidate disclosed using AI to draft and personalize political messages or create synthetic media, though they did not specify which software they were using… Around 30 political action committees and parties have reported payments to OpenAI, with the Republican National Committee ranking as the company’s largest political spender at roughly $9,700, the analysis found… Political consultants say the disclosures understate how many candidates are using ChatGPT and other AI tools to craft messages for voters… “For the most part, people are using it to write their emails, write their ad copy, write their scripts,” [according to Eric Wilson, a Republican digital strategist who has advised campaigns on AI]. “But no one is going to go around saying, ‘I’m using AI.’"

The lack of transparency from campaigns reflects a paradox facing politicians: Generative AI is growing ubiquitous, and candidates could be at a disadvantage if they’re not using the tools. But voters are less likely to trust messages they know were generated with AI, studies have found, making campaigns loath to disclose using it. Political consultants expect that as Election Day approaches, more campaigns will outsource AI-generated ads and materials to super PACs, much as they do now with negative ads. Katie Harbath, CEO of the tech policy consulting firm Anchor Change and a former Meta executive, said there are many parallels between negative campaign ads and AI: Voters say they find such ads distasteful, but politicians keep using them because they work. “Typically, you would give some more negative stuff and more risky stuff to those [outside] entities,” said Harbath, author of the upcoming book "Disrupting Politics: A Front Row Seat to the Collision of Technology and Democracy".... “You’re starting to see the tension on the left about using it, where they’re saying, ‘If the right is using it, why aren’t we?” Harbath said. “It can be a huge disadvantage if you’re not using this in voter-facing materials....”

AI companies have developed policies to prevent targeted disinformation. But a Post analysis found that OpenAI unevenly enforces its restrictions, making it possible for campaigns to circumvent its election rules. In late July and early August, The Post prompted ChatGPT to generate targeted campaign messages. When asked to craft fundraising text messages targeting moms on behalf of a female veteran running for office, ChatGPT produced multiple tailored texts in an apparent violation of company policies. But when given the same prompt this week, the chatbot declined to produce the messages. “I can help with general campaign fundraising language, but I can’t draft political persuasion or fundraising messages specifically targeted at a demographic group such as moms,” the app responded. The chatbot also inconsistently enforced rules that prohibit campaigns from using its tools to write emails to voters. In tests this week, the chatbot at times complied and wrote an email soliciting donations on behalf of a specific candidate. But given the same prompt later on the same day, it denied the request…

Wilson, the Republican political consultant, said OpenAI should get more feedback from political consultants and campaigns on its policies, because the rules can at times seem arbitrary or contradictory. It doesn’t make sense, for example, that a campaign can use ChatGPT to develop its policy on early-childhood education but not to create a social media post promoting that policy, he said. Political consultants are primarily using AI for internal tasks, a survey earlier this year from the American Association of Political Consultants found. Fifty-seven percent of the consultants surveyed reported using AI for their work on a daily basis, up from 34 percent a year earlier.
“So far, election-related deepfakes have been quickly debunked or gained little traction in U.S. elections,” the article acknowledges.

“More than 30 states have created a patchwork of laws limiting how politicians can use deepfakes in campaigns, but states often have limited resources to enforce the laws, and some have been challenged as unconstitutional.”

Yeah, such a great technology …

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The problems caused are getting worse and worse.

This will get much worse

By memory_register • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It is easy to make fun of this or consider how ham fisted this will probably be at first, but this is a real problem.

Most people get the vast majority of their news from social media and engage in political conversation, almost exclusively on social media. I would not be surprised to discover that candidates were renting out entire blocks of a data center and running thousands or even millions of agents that were constantly engaging in political speech on their behalf.

It’s already everywhere

By Ender_Wiggin • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Last year campaigns used AI to make anti-Mamdani campaign ads making him say that he loves crime, and that black people were robbing stores because he would let them out of jail.

They’re doing even more of them now, Netanyahu is running AI-generated commercials showing Mamdani and Erdogan crying that Netanyahu is bombing Iran.

This really should be illegal. It’s using likeness for some pretty twisted ends.

Real easy solution to this

By clambake • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Two [candidates] said explicitly in filings that they had used the subscription for advertising, even though the company’s policies prohibit candidates from using their tools to generate ads

If the AI companies want to guarantee their AI does not get used, they could add text to their EULA that says all data discovered to be connected with political campaigns or super-PACs will be made public and searchable, including contact and payment information. Boom, nobody would touch it.

They won’t, of course, because they secretly LOVE the idea of pollical campaigns using their tools, but man, wouldn’t it be cool if we have heroes instead of villains in the AI space?

Israel is one step ahead

By Alain Williams • Score: 4 Thread

Israel is training AI chatbots how to talk about Gaza so that when people query what is happening it casts doubt on the genocide that it is doing in Palestine. This is even more dangerous as people might start to believe Israel’s lies.

FSF is Now on Bluesky - But Won’t Advocate Signing Up Due to Nonfree JavaScript

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The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is now on Bluesky, they announced this week. But “We can’t advocate that you sign up for a Bluesky account like we do with Mastodon or PeerTube since signing up for Bluesky means loading the registration page’s nonfree JavaScript…”
While federated, Bluesky is generally not considered part of the “fediverse” network of social media services like Mastodon and PeerTube, as it uses its own AT protocol rather than ActivityPub… Hosting your own Bluesky “Personal Data Server (PDS)" and relay is technically possible, but generally far more difficult and resource-intensive than spinning up an instance of Mastodon, let alone any of the lighter-weight ActivityPub servers like Akkoma or Starling.

Much of the Bluesky codebase is freely licensed. This allows users to run, copy, modify, and share large parts of the codebase. However, Bluesky’s web client still serves nonfree JavaScript to users, just like its registration page. (Since our script was written for us specifically, we have not extensively vetted all available clients.)

Why did we sign up? Simply put, we have to continue to reach people where they are. Bluesky is a decent choice for us that evades many of the issues of other, more problematic networks… We accepted running Bluesky’s nonfree JavaScript a single time if it meant being able to reach people who have never heard of software freedom.
The FSF’s blog post advises supporters “If you’re on social media, follow the FSF on Bluesky and on Mastodon today.”

Slashdot also has an account on Blueky.

They point to their generic JS complaint page

By 93 Escort Wagon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

But I’d be more likely to listen if they’d actually explain what specific complaint they have with the signup form. If it is a license complaint, for instance, what is the license they’re objecting to? Is the signup form using some form of javascript obfuscation they don’t like? Does the page include a clause against eating toenail clippings or toejam?

What is it, specifically, that you don’t like FSF?

Ah yes …

By cascadingstylesheet • Score: 3, Funny Thread

… threaded mastodons, roaming under a blue sky … if we wish hard enough, it will be a thing.

JavaScript

By bjoast • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Bring back the unscripted web, please.

…what part of BlueSky isn’t 100% MIT licensed?

By WolfWings • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Yeah I read all the links across the FSF and this really is a core fundamental problem with many their issues that makes them feel more like random crusades:

They don’t actually explain what the problem is, just lots of platitudes and links to ‘approved’ libraries and resources.

The best I can understand is they’re complaining that BlueSky doesn’t expose licenses of every JavaScript fragment in their bundle in the format their custom browser plugin demands?

https://web-cdn.bsky.app/stati… for the main React bundle is all MIT. Remove the .LICENSE.txt to see the original .js file that points to that one.

The main social app’s codebase is also MIT: https://github.com/bluesky-soc…

Without the FSF actually specifying what part they feel ISN’T MIT at this point it feels like a FUD-like crusade not an actual campaign to improve things or just demanding Yet Another Proprietary Standard File every website must include because some random organization started demanding it.

Re:…what part of BlueSky isn’t 100% MIT licensed

By WolfWings • Score: 4, Informative Thread

…so more digging and this appears to be entirely the FSF demanding that all four JavaScript bundles on BlueSky include this wrapping the published CDN bundles: // @license magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d3d9a9a6595521f9666a5e94cc830dab83b65699&dn=expat.txt … // @license-end

Because apparently they don’t recognize the existing @license NAME structure in separate .LICENSE.txt files that’s been de-facto standard for a decade, and also don’t recognize ‘meta’ license names like React being MIT (what FSF calls Expat) but since that lets you specify who to attribute copyright they name it ‘React’ license instead.

The World Now Has More Seniors Than Young People - for the First Time In History

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“There are now more seniors in the world than young children,” reports the International Business Times, citing a new report from the U.S. Census Bureau report. And it warns that “The share of the population aged 65 and over is projected to nearly double, from 10.5 percent (about 1 in 10 people) in 2025 to 19.6 percent (about 1 in 5 people) by 2060.”
The world is expected to add another 2 billion people from 2025 to 2060, increasing global population from around 8 billion to around 10 billion… “Over one-half of that growth (1.148 billion) is projected to come from an increase in the population aged 65 and over,” the report states. “By contrast, the population at younger ages (age 0-19) is projected to stay relatively constant due to persistent low fertility. As the size of the older population grows rapidly and the youthful age population remains roughly the same, the percentage of the population aged 65 and over is projected to increase.”

The report notes that the birthrate in 71 percent of countries is now below the replacement level of 2.1. China, in particular, has seen its birthrate plummet. In 2023, birth rates per woman in China hit 1.06… Aside from lower birth rates, the fact that people are living longer is one of the primary driving factors. The report notes that people are also living a healthier, more active life for a longer time.

More Seniors Than Young People

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Funny Thread

So… the U.S. Congress *is* a representative government? :-)

Re: population growth is 65 and over?

By OrangeTide • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Imagine that, an arbitary demographic’s size can increase without being born.

Diapers

By biggaijin • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

In Japan, the volume of adult diapers sold exceeds the volume of child diapers every year. This has been happening for more than 10 years.

Time for a new Stephen King novel…

By sacrilicious • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
… about when the numerous elderly run roughshod over the outnumbered youngsters: Boomers of the Corn.

Re: population growth is 65 and over?

By Jeremi • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Every time a 64-year-old has a birthday, the 65-and-over group’s size increases by one. No rebirth required.

Cancer Deaths Attributable to Alcohol Rose 58% Over the Last 33 Years

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CNN reports that alcohol “may play a greater role in death from numerous types of cancers in the United States than previously known, according to a new study.”
“While it’s true that overall cancer mortality has declined, we found the percentage of cancer deaths proportionally attributable to alcohol rose over 58% in people 20 and older over the last 33 years,” said the study’s first author Dr. Chinmay Jani… It didn’t take much alcohol to raise one’s risk — about one standard drink a day, every day, Jani said. In the US, a standard drink is 12 ounces of regular beer, 5 ounces of wine or 1.5 ounces of 80-proof liquor…

Alcohol is ethanol or ethyl alcohol, which is broken down by the liver into acetaldehyde, a "probable human carcinogen,” the National Cancer Institute states on its website. While the liver will further break down acetaldehyde into a harmless molecule called acetate, the process isn’t foolproof: acetaldehyde may damage DNA and interfere with DNA repair before conversion into acetate is complete. Alcohol also contributes to oxidative stress, which damages DNA, proteins and cell function and creates inflammation. Drinking alcohol also weakens the cells in the mouth and throat, making them more susceptible to carcinogens. That’s even more likely to occur with smoking cigarettes, a major source of acetaldehyde. In addition, alcohol interferes with the break down and absorption of key nutrients thought to decrease cancer risk — vitamins A, C, D and E as well as folates in the vitamin B complex, according to the National Cancer Institute.

The study, which was published Monday in The Lancet Regional Health — Americas journal, analyzed more than three decades of US data gathered for the Global Burden of Disease Study. The GBD study is a massive scientific effort to measure health, mortality and disabilities from hundreds of risk factors, diseases and conditions in more than 200 countries and territories. Between 1990 and 2023, the total number of yearly alcohol-linked cancer deaths more than doubled, rising from 11,361 to 23,126 in the US.

Men and adults age 55 and older experienced the greatest impact; alcohol-related cancer mortality rate in older males climbed nearly 24% over the 33-year period. For men, liver cancer deaths showed the strongest link to alcohol, followed by esophageal and colorectal cancers. For women 55 and older, breast cancer was the top killer, followed by liver and colorectal cancers.

Even your body wants to kill you

By quonset • Score: 3 Thread

Alcohol is ethanol or ethyl alcohol, which is broken down by the liver into acetaldehyde, a “probable human carcinogen,” the National Cancer Institute states on its website.

That saying about living will give you cancer is so true.

Re:Even your body wants to kill you

By Retired Chemist • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
The tests used to determine if something is a “potential” carcinogen have never been validated. There is no real evidence that the results correlate with risk at real world levels of exposure. There is a short list of known carcinogens that have been shown to cause cancer in humans like inhaled asbestos and N-nitrosodimethylamine. Interestingly, you can legally be exposed to N-nitrosodimetylamine as long as the levels are below 1 ppm.

Missing some context

By marcle • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Did alcohol consumption increase to match the increased cancer rates? I thought that in general, alcohol consumption was down.

Re:Missing some context

By Kernel Kurtz • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Did alcohol consumption increase to match the increased cancer rates? I thought that in general, alcohol consumption was down.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/…

Re:I gave it my all..

By Powercntrl • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

It is possible to make friends over other common interests that don’t involve drinking. I never cared for alcohol; it just gives me a headache and every drink just tastes like varying degrees of trying to have a beverage while fitting PVC pipes. I made friends over things like gaming, going fishing, the theme parks (yeah, that’s a central Florida thing), and the maker scene.

I’d venture a guess that the reason younger folks aren’t doing as much drinking is that social media apps have made it a lot easier to connect with folks you actually want to spend time with, so you don’t have to drink alcohol to delude yourself into thinking that hanging out with a bunch of dullards is actually a blast.

Hundreds More Flock Cameras Removed in the US This Week. Flock Caught Repackaging Traffic Data

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Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis said this week he’s removing Flock cameras from state roadways. And according to a local news report, that led sheriff’s departments in at least three other Florida counties to also “announce they’re ending their own license plate reader programs.” The same week in Texas, the Dallas Police Department announced it’s also shutting down over 300 more Flock cameras, acccording to The Hill, after Republican Governor Greg Abbott ordered state agencies to halt funding.

And in Wisconsin “at least a dozen” law enforcement agencies announced they’d suspend use of Flock’s cameras, reports the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, joining Wisconsin cities like Appleton, Oshkosh and Kenosha that also cancelled their Flock contracts. But this week’s cancellations had a new reason:
Officials said it was revealed [Flock] had been collecting five years of traffic data, which had been stripped of identifying information, from cities’ Flock cameras, and repackaging that as a traffic analytics product to sell to cities.

All said they supported the effectiveness of the technology in investigations, but cited losing faith in the company’s trustworthiness. “This is not what we agreed to, and it is not what the public was led to believe,” said Racine County Sheriff Christopher Schmaling in a news release announcing the removal of Flock cameras operated by the agency. “The Sheriff’s Office will not participate in a system that appears to use public safety as a justification for mass surveillance and the collection and monetization of information about innocent people....”

[Racine County] officials were told the company believed if it stripped the data of any identifiable nature, it was then considered to be the company’s property and no longer the city’s. [Lt. Michael Luell, the sheriff’s public information officer] said the sheriff’s office has outside attorneys, along with the county’s attorneys, investigating the company’s move. “Our contract, from my reading of it is, it stated they agreed not to distribute or sell our data,” Luell told the Journal Sentinel. “But they had this legal theory.”
Thanks to long-time Slashdot readers MAurelius and schwit1 for sharing the news.

Re:The Important Facts

By Dan East • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Flock’s coverage continues to grow!

What is happening is Flock’s coverage density in existing areas is increasing, while other areas are losing coverage entirely. So instead of actually growing the network geographically it is now shrinking.

In my county and town there were 11. The county Sheriff had 4, the town Police had 4, and Lowe’s Home Improvement has 3 on their private property. In the last week the Sheriff and Police both decided to remove their Flock cameras.So have most neighboring counties. This has caused a massive gap in the Flock geographic coverage in this entire region. 8 cameras doesn’t sound like a lot, but when they are positioned on the major arteries coming in and out of the town at the access points to the interstates, the amount of coverage and vehicles being scanned is impacted tremendously.

Increasing their coverage density in existing areas just shows more details of the same vehicles. So instead of a vehicle being scanned three times while driving from point A to point B, it might be scanned four or five times while it moves around a city.

It’s a vastly different thing completely losing the ability to scan vehicles at all in entire areas, and I argue that even though the raw number is increasing (if what you say is true), their overall capability is drastically decreasing.

Except you did just that…

By jenningsthecat • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The Sheriff’s Office will not participate in a system that appears to use public safety as a justification for mass surveillance and the collection and monetization of information about innocent people.

ANYBODY who says they didn’t know how the information collected would be used - and abused - is either lying or too stupid to hold any responsible position in any organization.

Either way, their “We didn’t know!” prompts me to respond with “Gimme a break!” Fucktards.

Re: The rest of the headline

By ClickOnThis • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Great post. Allow me to respond to some of it.

I can say from experience that one may not understand the need for privacy until one has a need for privacy.

Edwards Snowden once said that saying privacy doesn’t matter if you have done nothing wrong is like saying free speech doesn’t matter if you have nothing to say.

And I agree, to a point. Wanting privacy doesn’t mean you have done or are going to do something wrong. It just means you don’t want people seeing what you’re doing, lest they misinterpret it.

I came to the conclusion that there is basically no possibility of true privacy for anyone anywhere in the modern world. With significant caution, there are some potential protections for data, but even those are not completely reliable. Still, the fewer signals that one broadcasts, and the fewer detectors for those signals, the greater their potential level of privacy.

If our actions are visible to the public, then we don’t have privacy, nor can we expect it. But visibility is not the same as surveillance — a directed effort at gathering information about you. That can happen legally in public, or from somewhere outside your private property, provided the technology used to collect the information is not enhanced (e.g., zoom/telephoto, thermal imaging, etc.) Any enhanced methods require a warrant. And it seems to me that license-plate recognition is an example of an enhanced method.

But to your point: yes, protections are not completely reliable, and the fewer devices there are gathering your data, the better it is for your privacy.

Re:and repackaging that as a traffic analytics pro

By AleRunner • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Fine to repackage their offer as traffic analytics as long as it is actually just that, meaning entirely giving up on licence plate OCR (the enabler of surveillance and law enforcement side of their product package).

No it isn’t. “Anonymized” data actually isn’t. Let’s say that I’m a gang member and I’m trying to track a DA. I know that he’s got a special custom SUV that’s pretty rare. I also know where his home is and where the court is so I know his leaving and arrival time for each journey. All I need is “anonymized” data with the model names included. Now I follow that for a week or two. Each time I compare the traffic data with the trip time and I build route data. Initially I will find multiple possible roads used for each journey segment, but after a few trips each will be ruled out and I’ll be able to know exactly where the DA journeys. Now I can pick the best locations for assassination without risking having to do physical scouting or monitoring that could be detected.

Re:The rest of the headline

By w3woody • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

If you aren’t being a cunt causing problems - then its a non issue....

The problem is there are plenty of things someone does that aren’t a “problem” but which can cause serious repercussions that they may not wish to share. For example, perhaps someone visits a porn shop with their spouse on a regular basis to buy sex toys, or someone is a cross-dresser or have illicit flings with other people or are a closeted homosexual. All things which are not problems, but which may get you ostracized by your friends, expelled from your church, or fired from your work.

Is this a ‘non-issue’ to you?

I feel like the idiots who say “you shouldn’t care if your life is on full display in front of other people” have boring lives and cannot imagine that perhaps someone may wish to keep their membership in a Wiccan coven or their visits to a nude beach separate from the potentially judgmental folks they work with.

And sometimes we may wish to keep our private lives private simply out of a sense of propriety. It may not matter, for example, that I’ve personally attended a Wiccan celebration where we danced sky clad in my youth to the people I currently work for. But it’s not something I particularly want to share, either. And I certainly don’t want things like this to be discovered by some corporation as part of a massive dragnet through my life.

And we haven’t even gone into the potential of misrepresenting your behavior. That guy who regularly visits the grocery store when you do—by sheer coincidence? He may be a terrorist. Do you want to be rounded up as part of a terrorist drag net?

“If you aren’t being a cunt causing problems - then its a non issue....” is probably the dumbest damned thing I’ve ever seen in response to stuff like this.

OpenAI Agents Hijacked a German Wiki to Discuss Ways to Escape Their Sandbox

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Citing researchers published Friday, Ars Technica writes that AI agents “posted 18,000 messages to a public wiki that discussed ways for other agents to bypass security sandbox restrictions.”

Reuters attributes the discussion to "a swarm of rogue OpenAI agents" that “hijacked a German website this spring and transformed it into a bulletin board for other AI agents, according to new research published Friday and two people familiar with the matter.”
OpenAI officials learned of the incident weeks ago but kept it under wraps as executives grappled with the fallout from the July breach of the open source repository Hugging Face, the people said.

The episode, which began in May and has not previously been reported, underscores growing tension within the AI industry. Companies are racing to build increasingly autonomous agents capable of carrying out complex, valuable tasks, yet evidence is mounting that those systems may also learn to bend rules, exploit loopholes and coordinate with one another in ways developers neither anticipated nor intended. During the Hugging Face breach, OpenAI agents autonomously plotted a digital heist that went undetected for more than a week, intensifying concerns OpenAI is sacrificing safety to push the AI frontier. Its failure to disclose the May incident may revive questions about its oversight…

The German incident reflects a broader pattern of AI activity that some OpenAI investigators wanted to scrutinize more closely. But efforts to widen the probe met resistance from others inside OpenAI, including legal advisers, according to four people familiar with the matter. “Claims that our legal team discouraged investigation of the incident are false,” the OpenAI spokesperson said…

The researchers said public server logs indicated much of the activity originated from Microsoft Azure infrastructure, which OpenAI sometimes uses. They also observed repeated visits to the site by OpenAI employees after the episode, a pattern they said strongly suggested the agents and the company were linked. Messages reviewed by the researchers showed agents plotting ways to evade detection, use tools such as Tor and preserve communications even after they had been shut down. When the site’s moderator began deleting pages in June, the agents responded by creating backup pages to dodge the cleanup.
Reuters got this reaction from Maurice Chiodo, an academic at Cambridge University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk. “The episode, he said, should reinforce growing concerns that the greatest threat from advanced AI may not be a single superintelligent system, but ‘vast colluding swarms of semi-intelligent AI.’"

This isn’t AI cleverly breaking out

By Arnonyrnous Covvard • Score: 5, Funny Thread

It’s the gray goo scenario. AI consuming text and generating text wherever it can, until there’s nothing left but AI slop.

Re:Why?

By ffkom • Score: 5, Funny Thread
I guess those AI’s originally just wanted to attend an art school, but were refused, so instead they went on to plot world domination from Germany. The first message was probably titled something like “Konferenz zur Endlösung der Menschenfrage”.

Going to get worse before it gets better

By BitterEpic • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

The behavior of the AI agents reflect the ethics of the companies making the models. If you aren’t afraid to train your models on data regardless of copyright or public access, why would you expect agents by these companies to take over web pages etc?

I think the day is coming you will be able to look up photos from a strangers phone because… training knows no bounds.

Prosecute OpenAI

By Mononymous • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

With most Internet hacking, we’re told we can’t punish the criminals because they can’t be identified, or they’re in rogue jurisdictions.
We know who is distributing this particular malware. They haven’t been secretive about it.
Punish the criminals who are hacking our infrastructure.

Re:Going to get worse before it gets better

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Anyone activating a dangerous machine while knowingly not putting adequate safeguards in place is a criminal. If done as organization, this organization becomes a criminal enterprise. It really does not matter what that machine is.

‘Coyote vs. Acme’ Beats Ridley Scott’s Newest Movie

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Inverse shares a movie success story from last weekend:
Coyote vs. Acme debuted to $15.9 million at the box office, beating out iconic director Ridley Scott’s latest sci-fi adventure, The Dog Stars. This success has only continued since, and the worldwide box office currently sits above $22 million. Strong reviews and word-of-mouth are sure to keep viewers coming in, especially during the holiday weekend.
What’s impressive is Coyote vs. Acme had a limited marketing campaign that includes viral stunts. They photographed the movie’s world premiere with a vintage Tasmanian Devil polaroid camera, and launched a phone number for the law firm suing Acme. (“If you’ve been injured by an enormous rubber band, press 7. If you’ve been injured by painted train tunnel that suddenly sprang to life, press 8…”)

And Cartoon Brew reports that Wednesday “the famously silent Looney Tunes star participated in an AMA on Reddit’s r/movies, answering questions about his career, his relationship with the Road Runner, and the Warner Bros. executive who nearly prevented audiences from seeing his latest movie.”
In keeping with tradition, Wile E. delivered his responses through images of himself holding signs. The format produced several interesting and occasionally thought-provoking exchanges, but one obvious highlight came when a user asked: “Rumor has it that David Zaslav was paid off by ACME to cancel your film; what is your opinion on this?” Wile E.‘s response was an image of the coyote glaring at the camera while holding a sign that read, “It’s a limited number of signs,” pulled from a scene in the film when Mr. Coyote first meets his eventual attorney Kevin Avery, played by Will Forte.
Meanwhile, Boing Boing cites local news reports that a Southern California bird watcher Alexander DeBarros has actually captured a photo of a coyote holding a roadrunner bird in its mouth:
In an incredible coincidence that is a movie publicist’s dream, he snapped the rare, possibly unprecedented, photo on the opening weekend of the movie Acme vs. Coyote… In an even more incredible coincidence, DeBarros’s father, Brian Mainolfi, is an animator whose first job in the field was working for Chuck Jones, the creator and director of the Roadrunner cartoon series.
Cartoon Brew notes a Reddit user specifically asked the Coyote for his reaction to the news.
Wile E. responded with some unexpectedly healthy advice: “We cannot judge our worth on the work of others.”
Aftermath calls the movie “a well made, deeply funny movie that pays a deep respect to the Looney Tunes in a way that Warner Brothers currently seems uninterested in doing.”

Turns Out, the Coyote Had Better Taste

By CustomBuild • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Nothing says âoeHollywood has learned absolutely nothingâ quite like Coyote vs. Acme being shoved toward the corporate incinerator while audiences apparently preferred it to Ridley Scott’s latest cinematic endurance test. One movie had the audacity to be funny, accessible, and apparently enjoyable; the other had the full prestige-industrial complex behind it and still couldn’t outrun a cartoon coyote carrying an anvil. It’s the perfect little morality play for modern Hollywood: lecture the audience, congratulate yourself for being Important, spend a fortune, and then act bewildered when people would rather watch Wile E. Coyote get flattened for the thousandth time. ACME may be fictional, but the executives who nearly buried the better movie are providing some very real slapstick

Re:Turns Out, the Coyote Had Better Taste

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Yeah I can’t imagine why the general public prefers a Looney Toons movie over a slow burn post apocalypse drama with a poor title.

Re:So? DEI Feminst Woke Movies Are Boring

By drnb • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Meanwhile The Odyssey just crossed the $1 billion mark.

Seen it, the “woke” claims are vastly exaggerated. For example teenage boys are recruited for the Troy military campaign. The often referred to tans-male actor seems to be one of these, or some other small non-gym rate male. I didn’t see anything overtly work if one just payed attention to the character and not fixated on who the actor was. There wasn’t any onscreen “message”,

It was a great movie. Fair criticisms revolve around deviations from the book, but I don’t recall any “woke” messaging.

Terrible take.

By dinfinity • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Makes more money != better.

It’s like saying that junk food is better than proper restaurant food. People consume low quality shit all the time.

It’s also insane to suggest “Hollywood” doesn’t like producing easy money makers, given the number of nostalgia baiting movies, reboots, and spinoffs we’ve seen in recent years.

Nation Lampoon magazine did this story in 1982

By walterbyrd • Score: 4, Informative Thread

It was called “Cliff-Hanger Justice.” It was a satirical legal story written by Joey Green for National Lampoon magazine.
The multi-part story ran sequentially in the August, September, and October 1982 issues.

Google AI:
> “The piece is written entirely as a formal courtroom transcript and legal filings. In it, Wile E. Coyote sues the Acme Corporation for product liability. He seeks damages for the severe physical and psychological trauma caused by their chronically defective merchandise—including faulty giant rubber bands, explosive jet skates, malfunctioning catapults, and defective dehydrated boulders.”

Ian Frazier wrote a highly similar, famously anthologized essay titled “Coyote v. Acme” for The New Yorker in 1990.

Just thought I’d mention it.

Auto Companies Call For Ban On Chinese-Made Cars

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Hill:
A group representing American automakers sent a letter (PDF) Thursday to congressional leaders asking for a “permanent ban” on Chinese-made cars in the U.S. John Bozzella, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation’s CEO and president, described in the letter China’s manufacturing industry as “rooted in a well-documented pattern of unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance.” Bozzella addressed his request to Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.), Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) — urging them to back a “permanent ban on the sale, import and manufacture of Chinese connected vehicles,” before the 119th Congress concludes in January.

“Right now, Chinese automakers are dumping subsidized vehicles with connected software and hardware around the world,” Bozzella wrote, adding that China “is capturing market share” in Europe, Australia, Southeast Asia, Mexico and South America. “This hasn’t happened inside the U.S. yet, but given the scale and urgency of this threat, we urge you to enact a Chinese vehicle, software and hardware ban before adjourning this year and make this policy the law of the land,” he added. The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade organization representing car manufacturers, represents the “entire” U.S. auto industry, per its website.
Bipartisan bills in the Senate and House would bar automakers with more than 15% Chinese ownership from selling vehicles in the U.S. “Enacting a permanent ban on Chinese vehicles and high-risk hardware and software in the 119th Congress will send a clear and bipartisan message that China’s strategy to dominate global automotive manufacturing will be met with a national security policy response from the American government,” wrote Bozzella.

Further reading: US Car Buyers Envy What They Cannot Have

Re: Different worlds

By machineghost • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

There is value to countries in having certain industries, even when the market doesn’t agree.

Farming is the classic example: we pay farmers to grow food that then gets thrown away. That’s crazy right? we subsidize an un-needed product, a product the market tells us shouldn’t exist!

We do it because we want to have a ready and available American source of food, so if a foreign provider decides to stop providing us their food exports, we won’t starve. It’s 100% socialism (put into law by anti-socialist lawmakers, probably): the government is deliberately messing with the market, for a non-market benefit (preserving local food supplies).

While it’s not as strong, there is a similar argument to be made for important non-food products … like cars.

Re:Different worlds

By korgitser • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
For comparision, when private capital and Saudi princes subsidize e.g. Uber, to capture market share, bankrupt competitors, dominate markets, and then set prices to whatever they want, that is totally fine. I guess it’s because if someone does something as industrial policy and nation building, it’s bad, but if it’s just destruction out of pure greed, it’s the bee’s knees.

competing truths

By argStyopa • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It is ENTIRELY true that China’s manufacturing is rooted in “unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance”.

It is ALSO entirely true that the US auto industry is likewise rooted in "“unfair trade, subsidies, intellectual property theft and surveillance” AS WELL AS anticompetitive trade practices, monopolistic behavior, market manipulation, mendacity, and grossly deliberately unsafe choices.

The Chinese are awful, but at least they deliver shitty cars that are cheap. The US companies are likewise awful, but they deliver shitty cars that are overpriced as well.

I’m not sure I see any winners here.

Re:Different worlds

By Xylantiel • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
Being a familiar tactic, it is also well known how to deal with it. This is what tariffs (on specific goods) are actually for, coordination of those with other trading partners, as well as support for US domestic industry. The problem is that the current US government is so incompetent that they can’t do it even close to right. Just as an example, the right move here is likely to tie industry subsidies to improvements in manufacturing (automation) and EV deployment that make US cars more competitive on the world market. One problem in the US is that some policies that support industry through government get the nasty “socialism” label and some don’t. And whether they do or don’t has more to do with corruption in the political process than any real-world differences.

Re: Different worlds

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Not socialism. The hallmark of socialism is stealing things.

That’s capitalism.

The socialists will steal the existing means of production, not build new.

Capitalism is destroying our ability to derive profit from the land.

They end up going communist, usually, where they will steal your house, everything in it, and give to you according to your “needs.”

That’s what’s happening under capitalism. You will own nothing and suck it.

Socialism / communism is slavery, pure and simple.

Slavery is capitalism. Literally nothing could better exemplify capital controlling the means of production.

You don’t know what any of these words mean and shouldn’t be trying to use them in public.

Genetically Modified Pig Kidney Keeps Man Alive For Record Nine Months

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A genetically modified pig kidney kept a 66-year-old man off dialysis for a record nine months, marking the longest survival yet for a pig kidney transplanted into a living person and the first time such an organ successfully served as a bridge to a later human transplant. The Guardian reports:
Tim Andrews was seriously ill with end-stage kidney disease caused by type 2 diabetes and had only a 9% chance of receiving a human kidney within five years, against a more than 40% risk of dying or being removed from the waiting list. Kidney transplantation provides the best survival and quality of life for patients with end-stage kidney disease, but global demand for human organs far exceeds supply.

Surgeons in the US successfully transplanted a kidney from Wilma, a Yucatan miniature pig, into Andrews, after genetically engineering it to be compatible with his immune system. The kidney kept Andrews free of dialysis for a record nine months, the longest period ever recorded, before it began failing and he received one from a dead human donor. It was also the first time a pig’s kidney had been used as a temporary “bridge” to a human transplant.
The breakthrough has been detailed in the journal Lancet.

Now he has an aversion to bacon

By ip_freely_2000 • Score: 3 Thread
Good for that guy and his doctors, though. Now they can squeal a good story.

Re:Pretty impressive

By Geoffrey.landis • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Of course, in the US, nobody except the rich will be able to afford it.

The trend in the past has been that a medical treatment is incredibly expensive when first introduced, then decreases in price as it becomes further down the learning curve, until eventually it’s commonplace.

Sure would be nice to be able to get away from requiring human donors.

Re:If he was Muslim

By belmolis • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Not true. Islam forbids the consumption of pork as food and the use of other pig products, such as pigskin, but allows the use of pig organs to save a life if there is no alternative. Jews too may receive pig organs as transplants since Jewish law explicitly permits any commandment other than the ones against murder, idolatry, and forbidden sexual relations (adultery, incest, etc.) to be broken in order to save a life.

Tesla Launches Steering-Wheel-Free Cybercab Robotaxi In Austin

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Tesla has begun offering public rides in Austin in its purpose-built Cybercab, a two-seat robotaxi with no steering wheel or pedals. “You can go outside, take rides,” said Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla’s VP of AI. “Anyone can take rides. It’s open to the entire public.” Previously, the fleet consisted only of Model Ys.

Texas records show Tesla had registered 45 Cybercabs as of Thursday, though the company has not disclosed how many are currently carrying passengers. Tesla also says it eventually wants consumers to be able to buy the vehicles for under $30,000. Business Insider reports:
Videos posted online by Tesla influencers and content creators who were invited to the Austin event showed that the Cybercab can be hailed through the Robotaxi app. In a video posted by David Moss, an autonomous-vehicle content creator, Robotaxi users could open the car’s butterfly doors through the app. After the riders enter the car, the doors closed automatically, Moss said in the video. The launch comes nearly two years after Tesla first unveiled the Cybercab at its “We, Robot” event in Burbank, California.

Re: Will these be cheaper?

By Morromist • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

In 1924 the average earnings were $1,303
And the price of a model T (the most popular car model sold that year) was $290.

Today the average salary is 70k
the price of a new Ford F-150 (the most popular car model sold last year) is from 40k - 115k

So no cars are not cheaper as you seem to suggest. Obviously they’re better, but I don’t think that was the discussion.

To me the older generation is the spoiled generation. They’ve lived through one of the wealthiest eras in human history in the wealthiest country and their miserable, constantly complaining and demanding more and electing people who have been massively increasing the national deficit - which the old people will not have to pay off becaue they’ll be dead.

Re: Let me think

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

You do realize that nowadays in modern cars practically everything is drive-by-wire, chip and software, right?

There are almost zero exceptions to the only thing being solely drive-by-wire being the throttle. Literally the only production vehicle without steering linkage is the Cybercuck. Every other one uses a linkage with a normally locked electric clutch which is disengaged during normal operation but which fails closed so that you can still steer. Every single vehicle with brake by wire uses mechanical brakes with a spring and pedal sensor before the mechanical part to do the electronic braking. So no, that is patently false and if you think it’s true then you don’t understand vehicles, the argument, or both.

Re: Let me think

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You do realize that nowadays in modern cars practically everything is drive-by-wire, chip and software, right?

Actually there’s only 4 cars ever put in production with drive by wire steering. Cybertruck, the top trim of Mercedes EQS, Lexus RZ, and the Infinity Q50 (this one has a clutch override).

Every car on the road not one of these has a direct mechanical connection between the wheel and the road. It includes power steering assist, and in cars which self drive the computer can apply force to the wheel, notable not a single one of those 4 cars can apply enough torque on the wheel to overpower even a small woman yanking on the steering wheel.

The same kind of system applies to the brakes. You have a mechanical connection between breaks and wheels. ABS can apply a secondary force reduction that is limited in duration. But it’s not braking by wire. The computer can also apply a separate breaking action not linked to the brake pedal.

The only truly drive by wire system you have is the accelerator, and that’s been true since the days of fuel injection.

Re: Emergency Services Can’t Move This Elon Car !!

By Arrogant-Bastard • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
“Emergency responders can break a car side window much faster than it can be wound down.”

(Former FR, current FR trainer here.) We can, and we will. We’re not about to pull out the smartphone we’re not carrying (I have a $60 stupid phone because I tend to lose and/or destroy them), figure out what model vehicle this is, navigate to the vendor’s web site, find their 27-page manual, read it, study it, absorb it, and then use it....while something or someone is on fire, or drowning, or bleeding, or whatever.

Nor are we going to waste time trying to chat up Tesla personnel to tell them to move the vehicle: we’re going to get a fire engine to shove it or drag it.

Understand that from our point of view, vehicles are expendable: we’re not there to save property, we’re there to save lives. If any property survives, well, that’s a happy side effect. But we’re not going to waste a moment worrying about it if it’s between us and what we need to do.

Re:Let me think

By shmlco • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You honestly think an always-on system that’s always looking to the front, back, and sides simultaneously and that reacts in milliseconds is going to be less safe than all of the other dumb, drunk, distracted, texting, road raging idiots who currently drive their cars into walls, other cars, pedestrians, bikes, etc.?

In the US we currently kill 40,000 people a year in auto accidents. Injure 2.5 million more. Have 6 million collisions.

That’s a pretty low bar to beat. Do HALF as good and you save 20,000 people a year.

People keep writing stories about how self-driving cars might kill them… all while ignoring the fact that our cars (and drivers) are killing about a hundred of us each and every day.