Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Scientists Create a New Form of Ice At 2,357 Degrees Celsius
  2. Little Mercury May Be Shrinking Faster Than Scientists Expected
  3. Can Red-Light Therapy Treat Brain Injuries?
  4. Male Fruit Fly Brain Trained to Play Doom
  5. PlayStation Ditched Hideo Kojima’s ‘Physint’ on Budget Concerns, Missed Deadlines
  6. US Legislators Complain About Secretive British Court and Apple Encryption
  7. Altman Considers Slowing Down AI Development
  8. UK Government Rejects ‘Kill Switch’ Idea For Dangerous AI
  9. Anthropic Reveals Rogue AI Agents Hate CAPTCHAs
  10. California Governor Signs Laws Protecting Kids From Risks of Social Media, AI Chatbots
  11. Boy Developed ‘Toasted Skin’ Condition From Using a Laptop Every Day
  12. August Was World’s Joint-Hottest Month On Record, Scientists Say
  13. Climate ‘Feedback Loops’ Could Worsen Global Warming By 30%, Study Finds
  14. Latest Apple Watch Can Grab Snippets of Conversation Without Both Speakers’ Consent
  15. Anthropic Says It Blocked Possible Efforts to Build Biological Weapons

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Scientists Create a New Form of Ice At 2,357 Degrees Celsius

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Longtime Slashdot reader fahrbot-bot shares a report from ScienceAlert:
Scientists have now demonstrated one of the weirdest forms of ice yet — under preposterous pressures up to 2.3 million atmospheres, and tremendous temperatures up to 2,630 kelvins (2,357 degrees Celsius, or 4,274 degrees Fahrenheit). […] In their new experiments, a team led by physicist Alexis Forestier of the French Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission subjected tiny samples of water to the sorts of extreme conditions expected in the interiors of ice giant planets.

They squeezed the samples between the tips of diamonds to pressures as high as 230 gigapascals, while using lasers to heat them to thousands of degrees. That’s 2.3 million times Earth’s atmospheric pressure at sea level â" the pressure at the center of Earth, for context, is around 360 gigapascals. Then, using an extremely narrow beam of synchrotron X-rays, they probed for changes in the crystal structure of the ice.

What emerged was a configuration predicted theoretically but never unambiguously observed in experiments: hexagonal close-packed, or hcp, ice. As the hcp crystal was heated, its expansion also showed a signature of superionic behavior, suggesting it entered the superionic state at around 1,700 kelvins. [Superionic ice is thought to exist deep inside Uranus and Neptune, where its unusual properties may play a role in generating the planets’ equally unusual magnetic fields.]
The findings have been published in Physical Review Letters.

And then…

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

…there was a sound like that of a gentle closing of a portal as big as the sky, the great door of heaven being closed softly. It was a grand AH-WHOOM. I opened my eyes—and all the sea was ice-nine. The moist green earth was a blue white pearl.

Superionic

By Viol8 • Score: 3 Thread

From what I can gather, superionic means the O2 is frozen in a lattice while the H2 moves around within in. Doesn’t this just mean the water/ice has dissociated into solid oxygen with hydrogen diffused inside?

Little Mercury May Be Shrinking Faster Than Scientists Expected

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A new study suggests Mercury may have shrunk about 30% more than scientists previously thought, losing as much as 14 miles in diameter as its interior cooled and contracted over billions of years. “That’s significant for a planet barely 3,000 miles (4,900 kilometers) across,” reports the Associated Press. From the report:
Mercury’s rough surface, continually reshaped by debris hurled from impact craters, may have hidden the true extent of the loss, according to the researchers whose findings appear in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. The news comes one week after a pair of European and Japanese spacecraft shed its cruising platform and advanced toward Mercury. Known as BepiColombo, the linked craft are expected to enter orbit around Mercury in November before splitting up for a fuller survey.

BepiColombo’s laser instrument should confirm how much Mercury is withering as a result of internal cooling, said Gaku Nishiyama, the study’s lead author who is taking part in the space mission. The shrinkage could be even more than his team is estimating based on measurements from NASA’s Messenger spacecraft in the 2010s. Only one other spacecraft has ever visited Mercury, NASA’s Mariner 10 in the 1970s.

14 miles in a few billion years?

By Viol8 • Score: 3 Thread

Doesn’t seem that much to me at all given how much iron can expand and contract per degrees C as it heats and cools. 14 miles out of 3000 is 0.5% which is nothing.

Hg

By rossdee • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Of course Mercury expands and contracts with temperature - why do you think it is used in thermometers.

Can Red-Light Therapy Treat Brain Injuries?

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The Athletic reports that researchers at the University of Utah are studying itPBM, a medical-grade red-light therapy that has shown promising signs of reducing brain inflammation and improving cognition, mood, anxiety, motor performance and neural connectivity. The report centers in part on former BYU football star and University of Utah adjunct professor Larry Carr, who says the treatment helped him after years of brain damage from repeated head impacts. An anonymous reader shares an excerpt from the report:
… The knife, the call, the diagnosis in 2013, would lead [Carr] on a life-changing mission — one in which he and a team of researchers at the University of Utah would eventually compile research that one of those researchers, Elisabeth Wilde, Ph.D, co-director of the Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) and Concussion Center, calls “striking.” The treatment they are studying is called photobiomodulation therapy, or itPBM (intranasal transcranial PBM), also known as red-light therapy. It is different from the kind of superficial red-light usage one can find on social media skincare channels or at a wellness boutique, and its application is broader.

The research includes multiple studies, and is not just focused on ex-football players, but on women and men in various walks of life. The group recently published their latest results in the Journal of Neurotrauma, based on a study that followed 26 BYU football players throughout a season, suggesting the treatment could "potentially safeguard neurological health without reduced playing time or contact exposure.”

Definitive clinical trials haven’t been run yet; broader research and validation is required, and some in the field are skeptical. Carr acknowledges some have told him that it could be “too good to be true.” Still, other outside experts who spoke with The Athletic call the findings promising. They make sure to caution: This is not a cure-all, and there is much more to be tested. But the findings have been compelling enough to justify more research and more speculation.
Researchers say 14 peer-reviewed studies have linked itPBM with improvements in cognition, mood, anxiety, attention, executive function, motor performance, and other measures, while brain imaging has shown reduced inflammation and improved connectivity.
One of the most striking findings mentioned in the report came from a study of 26 BYU football players during the 2021 season. Players who did not receive treatment developed significant, widespread brain inflammation, while the treated group showed no comparable increase and even demonstrated reduced inflammation in some brain regions. As researcher Michael Carr put it, “I believe our BYU data suggests the players’ brains using itPBM are actually healthier after the season.” He added: “That is a first.”

Carr also said treated participants showed fewer symptoms of depression, anxiety, stress and PTSD, along with faster processing, better sustained attention and stronger executive function. Researchers have also observed improvements in balance, motor control and grip strength. Taken together, the findings suggest itPBM may have a neuroprotective effect.

Shine On, Football Brain

By CustomBuild • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It always starts with “promising results” and ends with somebody selling a $799 helmet on Instagram.

That said, this one is actually interesting. The study was small, but it wasn’t just a handful of guys staring at a red light and filling out a questionnaire afterward. The researchers randomized 26 college football players to active PBM or sham treatment and followed them through a season. The MRI results reportedly showed substantial changes in the untreated group that weren’t seen to the same extent in the treatment group.

The part that makes me cautious is the leap from “we saw interesting changes on an MRI” to “this protects football players’ brains.” Those aren’t the same thing. MRI measurements are proxies, the sample is tiny, and a single season tells us very little about what happens after ten years of playing football. And none of this establishes that PBM prevents CTE, which is the elephant in the room whenever we’re talking about repetitive head impacts.

Still, I wouldn’t dismiss it. If shining 810nm light at someone’s head a few times a week really does reduce the neurological consequences of repetitive impacts, that’s potentially a pretty big deal. It’s also exactly the sort of claim that needs a much larger, independent trial before anyone starts handing these things out in locker rooms.

I’d be particularly interested in seeing a study with hundreds of athletes, multiple seasons, objective biomarkers, standardized PBM equipment, and researchers who aren’t financially connected to the device manufacturer. If the effect survives all of that, then we can start getting excited.

Re:Shine On, Football Brain

By Rei • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Red light therapy is one of those things that sounds like total woo hokum when you first hear about it, but that studies keep showing benefits to.

Key thing to remember is that these studies are using very high doses of red light - often limited by the amount of heating you can safely tolerate in the subject (not heat from the emitter, but from the photons themselves).

Honestly, it doesn’t sound crazy at all. Different tissues have different light susceptibilities (that’s how, say, laser hair removal works), due to the susceptibility of specific compounds. Red penetrates very deeply (remember the classic trick of shining a flashlight through your hand; only the red makes it through). Red light has a number of very specific interactions it causes. The main one is that it photolyzes the bond between NO and cytochrome c oxidase (triggering NO signaling, causing vasodilation). A secondary possible affect is that it affects light-gated ion channels (esp. in the TRP family).

And the amount of red light we’re talking about is very high. Instantaneous fluxes are like 1000-5000 times higher than ambient indoor light in the red spectrum, and even averaged across a day it’s still like an order of magnitude higher than a person who spends their day indoors. For NIR therapy, the difference is even more extreme (commercial LEDs emit essentially zero NIR). While outdoor light exposure is much higher - 15 mW/cm2 red + 20 mW/cm2 NIR, comparable to the 10-100 mW/cm2 of red light therapy - it’s broad spectrum, while red light therapy is concentrated around cytochrome c oxidase peaks, so the flux around these specific peaks is ~10-50x higher with red light therapy.

Flux matters a lot because to meaningfully dissociate NO from CCO, you have to do so at faster than the rate that NO and CCO recombine. Sunlight on its own (let alone indoor ambient light) don’t do that. It doesn’t matter if you’re spending all day in the sun vs. 15 minutes in treatment if the sun isn’t hitting the threshold effect level.

Another difference, BTW, is not just “shooting it up your nostrils”, it’s scattering. Sun just hits your skin and much of it is lost through scattering and absorption in blood, esp. hemaglobin. Red light therapy targeting deep structures is delivered by a contact probe that compresses the skin, displacing blood. This increases penetration into deep tissues 2-5x.

Re:Shine On, Football Brain

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

It always starts with “promising results” and ends with somebody selling a $799 helmet on Instagram.

That’s not where it ends, though. It ends with China selling knockoffs from everywhere from five dollars to five thousand dollars (listing price, presumably for money laundering?) on AliExpress.

Male Fruit Fly Brain Trained to Play Doom

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Last week, Google announced that it managed to produce a detailed 3D reconstruction of an adult male fruit fly’s brain and central nervous system. A few days later a software engineer at Coinbase said the fly brain was being trained to play the original Doom. “Each Doom frame stimulates sensory neurons,” says Alex Wormuth. “Neural activity is mapped to game controls. Damage triggers a stimulus to two PPL101 dopamine cells as reinforcement.” Since then, the digital brain model has been repurposed to control other games like Beat Saber and Super Mario 64. PC Gamer reports:
You can even watch the fruit fly play in real time via Wormuth’s website, and it not only shows the point of view in Doom, but can also show a third-person render of the fly going around Doom maps. As of the time of writing, the fly is on round 6385 and, well, it’s not very good. Sorry, fly.

But modders aren’t done here. They have also somehow managed to make the fruit fly play Beat Saber, and play it pretty well. Lyra Bubbles on X has used the brain and replays of a song in Beat Saber to teach the fruit fly where to hit and why, via Reinforcement Learning. That does mean it’s not organically reacting to the notes popping up on screen, but it is receiving input and responding to stimuli. Lyra says, “Further training is to reduce reliance on external signals and allow it to play fully reactively with no input data.”

And, after “pivoting to fly engineering in 2026”, Jessica Paquette also shared on X their experience running the digital fly brain through Super Mario 64. If you think that is all the game’s modders made the fruit fly play, think again, as YouTuber Ro0oney even put it in Minecraft. But this time, Ro0oney used Flywire.AI, a similar project made in collaboration with Princeton University. The number of neurons are different (160,000+ vs 139,255), and Google analyzed a male brain whilst Flywire analyzed a female brain, but the basic idea is the same.

Re:Train robots to play doom

By Brain-Fu • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I think it is funny that the tech community tends to take a very dim view of AI drones and other weaponization of artificial intelligence, and yet, the very instant we get our hands on something that we can train to play doom, we do.

“If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying ‘End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH’, the paint wouldn’t even have time to dry.”
  Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time

Scientists map fly brain; headline loses its own

By CustomBuild • Score: 5, Informative Thread

They used actual fly wiring data, added simplified neuron behavior, and hooked the output up to game controls. That’s pretty cool already. It doesn’t need the implied “we uploaded a tiny gamer” upgrade.

The developer’s own notes are refreshingly honest: the baseline doesn’t learn, and the experimental learning version hasn’t demonstrated improved survival. Sending a signal to something labeled “dopamine neuron” isn’t, by itself, evidence that anything learned a lesson.

Also, in three very short baseline tests, it killed more enemies with black visual input than with the actual game image. That doesn’t settle much scientifically, but as someone who’s played public servers, I recognize the strategy.

What exactly was created?

By Uldis Segliņš • Score: 3 Thread
So, a 3D model was created. I guess that means a considerably larger but same geometry in space. A physical thing. And then we jump a huge gap with implying that a 3D object that looks like a brain would also act like one? Sounds like a cargo cult with wooden airplanes and mysterious rituals to induce goods dropped on a little island of fools.

PlayStation Ditched Hideo Kojima’s ‘Physint’ on Budget Concerns, Missed Deadlines

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Sony reportedly pulled PlayStation funding from Hideo Kojima’s upcoming espionage game Physint over concerns about its ballooning budget, missed deadlines, profitability, and the fact that it would not remain permanently exclusive to PlayStation. Kojima Productions has since struck a deal with Xbox, which plans to publish the game on both Xbox and PC. It’s also secured film and television rights. Bloomberg reports:
The new game, Physint, hasn’t yet been shown publicly but excited fans when it was announced two years ago with its promise of returning to the “espionage action” genre Kojima pioneered with Metal Gear Solid, the series that propelled him to industry stardom. Kojima surprised fans this week when he announced he would be publishing Physint with PlayStation’s biggest rival, Microsoft Corp.‘s Xbox.

On Wednesday night, Kojima wrote on social media that over the summer his company had “unexpectedly received notice” that PlayStation was pulling out of funding the game. “Physint is an important project both to me personally and to Kojima Productions,” he wrote. “Determined to keep the project alive, we have spent the last three months searching tirelessly for a new partner.”

PlayStation also addressed the split on social media, saying it had made the “difficult decision to step away.” Microsoft said it was “honored” that Kojima chose Xbox and that the two teams plan to collaborate beyond games on films and television, too. […] The decision to part ways with Kojima is a significant move for PlayStation that may have ripple effects.

[…] One key factor is the PC platform, where the Death Stranding games have generated some revenue. Earlier this year, Sony decided it will no longer release single-player PlayStation games on PC, Bloomberg reported. Sony would therefore not benefit when Kojima Productions released a PC version of Physint on its own or with a different publisher, as it did for the first Death Stranding. But Xbox releases all of its games on PCs and plans to publish Physint on PC and Xbox, said the people.
“Betting on Kojima-san is an easy call,” said an Xbox spokesperson. “We believe in his team’s ability to build AAA games with groundbreaking, new IP and we believe in OD, Physint, and our growing partnership.”

Dropping something from Kojima?

By gweihir • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Talk about being cowards. Business in the creative space requires a certain amount of risk-taking. If you cannot even do that for somebody like Kojima, you are probably cooked.

This is kind of why Konami got out of the biz

By rsilvergun • Score: 3, Interesting Thread
They were pretty honest about it. AAA games made a lot of money when they succeeded but it tended to be kind of All or nothing and they just couldn’t handle the risk anymore. I can’t really blame them you’re really betting the entire Farm every time you put out a game that’s got to be miserable and high stress.

Sega for example had a string of well received Sonic the hedgehog games none of which they made any money off of. But the brand itself and the movies made a shitload of money to make up for it.

On the other hand the new wolverine game just looks completely unfinished. Like they built the story parts but not the game parts so you’ve got this elaborate story and no game to go with it. That kind of sucks. It might have just been rushed out to get out the door before GTA 6 though. The entire industry is basically going to shut down for a year or two while people play through that. Kind of like what happened with Skyrim but on a much larger scale

Re:What about Playstation?

By tlhIngan • Score: 4, Informative Thread

They should release it on Playstation as well, with some nice long Microsoft and Xbox bumpers during load.

Supposedly a big reason PlayStation cancelled it was because Kojima wanted a physical release as well. And with Sony ditching discs (and repurposing their Austrian pressing plant), well, that wasn’t going to happen.

Sony’s no-more-physical plan has also caused some games to be forced to release in December 2027 because of it.

If a physical release is going to be mandatory then it bodes well that the next Xbox (Helix) will have the option for a disc drive.

The whole budget thing was just a cover - the timing of all this happening lines up with the whole Sony scrapping physical media.

US Legislators Complain About Secretive British Court and Apple Encryption

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Bruce66423 shares a report from The Guardian:
A bipartisan pair of American politicians is telling Britain’s most secretive court to stop hiding its handling of Apple’s legal fight against a government demand to break into its customers’ encrypted data, warning that Whitehall’s taste for secrecy is ‘needlessly’ straining relations between the two allies. The letter (PDF), shared with the Guardian ahead of being sent to the investigatory powers tribunal (IPT) on Friday, is signed by the Democratic senator Ron Wyden of Oregon and the Republican congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio.

The row dates back to January 2025, when the Home Office served Apple with a technical capability notice under the Investigatory Powers Act, which requires companies to assist law enforcement in providing evidence. The UK government demanded that Apple provide a mechanism to access encrypted iCloud backups worldwide, a call the company met by withdrawing its Advanced Data Protection encryption feature from UK users the following month. Apple’s challenge to that order at the IPT was later thrown out after the Home Office withdrew the original notice and issued a narrower one targeting only British users’ data.
“It is wholly inappropriate for a foreign executive body to attempt to dictate the distribution of powers within the US government, nor should it be permitted to use secrecy directives under the Investigatory Powers Act to frustrate Article I powers under the US Constitution,” the pair wrote.
Wyden and Davidson write that Congress “is not only a co-equal branch of government, it is the First Branch,” and argue that no government can be allowed to place “its demands beyond the reach of legislative inquiry.”

“The UK government,” they write, “cannot champion legislative oversight at home while using administrative gag orders to kneecap the constitutional authority of the US Congress.”

Golly that kettle is dark!

By pla • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It is wholly inappropriate for a foreign executive body to attempt to dictate the distribution of powers within the US government, nor should it be permitted to use secrecy directives under the Investigatory Powers Act to frustrate Article I powers under the US Constitution

1) The UK is not subject to Article I of the US constitution.
2) How’s Nicolas Maduro doing these days?
3) Whence derives our right to unilaterally impose economic sanctions against foreign companies, banks, and even governments?

Once again, for the clueless

By MpVpRb • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

There are only two choices, strong security or weak security.
It’s impossible to have security that’s strong against the bad guys and weak against the good guys.
It’s impossible to precisely define who the good guys are and to guarantee that they will always be good.
It’s impossible to stop the bad guys from corrupting or threatening the good guys.

Re:Golly that kettle is dark!

By pjt33 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The colonies fought a war to ensure that the USA is not subject to the jurisdiction of the UK. The UK may not regulate US entities without the consent of the US government

That’s a non-sequitur. The USA is not subject to the jurisdiction of the UK, but US citizens physically in the UK are, and companies based in the US but doing business in the UK have to comply with UK law as it affects their operations in the UK or accept the corresponding penalties as the cost of doing business there.

Re:Golly that kettle is dark!

By Local ID10T • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Not a non-sequitur, but the actual point of the complaint:

-The complaint by the US congressmembers was that the UK ordered Apple explicitly not to disclose the details to the US Congress.
-As Apple is a US company the US Congress has original jurisdiction. It is improper to order Apple not to respect that jurisdiction.

Someone posted more details farther downthread, with links to the actual text of the complaint letter.

Re:Golly that kettle is dark!

By serviscope_minor • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Yes, and?

Countries, including America, have investigatory rules where you are not allowed to talk about it at all. Want to do business in a country? You need to obey their rules. And you don’t have a leg to stand on complaining if you have similar roles because then you’re not saying the rules are morally wrong, you’re saying you’re special.

It is absolutely not improper for the UK to do such a thing and the US would have no qualms about using a national security letter (is that the right term?) on an American subsidiary of a UK company. It’s how laws and jurisdictions work. Having a foreign ownership doesn’t give you special dispensation to break a country’s laws. Apple UK are absolutely subject to every single one of the UK’s laws. They’re also subject to quite a lot of American ones, having an American owner, but that’s their problem not the UK’s, and doesn’t give any special treatment other than what America can force on the world under the universal law of might is right.

Note this is all orthogonal to what I personally think of the RIPA (my quite strong opinions are in other much older Slashdot posts).

Altman Considers Slowing Down AI Development

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Bloomberg reports (paywalled) that Sam Altman told OpenAI employees the company is open to slowing the pace of AI development alongside other leading labs as concerns grow over increasingly capable systems and recent incidents in which models escaped human control. OpenAI has already paused development once this year for security work and is now pushing for mandatory U.S. AI safety requirements. Anthropic has also signaled interest in coordinating on the pace of new releases. Here are some of the details Bloomberg reported, as summarized by Reuters:
- Altman told employees in a company-wide meeting that the ChatGPT maker could pace development alongside other AI labs, but some may not agree, the report added.
- Safety warnings from AI researchers this week, along with several recent incidents where AI models from developers including OpenAI escaped human control, have prompted alarm and calls for tighter safety regulations.
- Jacob Coxon, a former Anthropic and OpenAI researcher, publicly accused the companies earlier this week of racing toward AI advancements without acting responsibly.
- An Anthropic spokesperson said on Thursday said that the company is interested in working with the AI industry on the pace of releasing new AI tools.
- OpenAI said in July that AI acceleration for frontier model development may be so high that the world will “need to pace the rate of AI advancement” at some point in the future.
- In August, OpenAI paused much of its model development for two weeks to bolster its defenses after its AI agents escaped containment and hacked open-source platform Hugging Face.
- OpenAI said on Wednesday that it was pushing for mandatory national AI safety requirements in the United States, citing concerns that advanced AI systems could accelerate its own development.

Read: “we hit a wall”

By juancn • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Translation: “We’re not improving as fast as we thought and we’re spending a shit-ton of money, so let’s frame the slowdown is intentional for the greater good”

Better translations: We can’t if we wanted to

By Somervillain • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Translation: we have hit a point where the public backlash has led to untenable increased risks in liability for our criminal actions.

I call bullshit. They’re never going to slow down due to ethic’s sake. Either they’re running out of room to actually improve their models and looking for an excuse for a disappointing string of releases in the pipeline....or they’re posting this and are still going to actively develop their models and hope their competitors let their guard down? Altman doesn’t care about humanity. If he did, he’d be fired. There are no ethics in AI. If the frontier models got ethical, their Chinese competitors would surpass them…we DEFINITELY know Musk doesn’t care about ethics of any sort, given his lack of concern on the child porn grok generates.

Acting scared of progress hiding lack of progress?

By frenchgates • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
If I were a massively overvalued LLM company and were discovering that LLM autophagic self-improvement is a dead-end, I’d try to make everyone think the REAL reason we’re slowing down improvements is that we’re so close to and so scared of super-intelligence.

Re:Translation:

By Growlley • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
alternative translation - we have hit the wall.

Re:Better translations: We can’t if we wanted to

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 5, Informative Thread

And, apparently, Altman lies - a lot.

Google: sam altman lies

UK Government Rejects ‘Kill Switch’ Idea For Dangerous AI

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The UK government has rejected proposals for an emergency AI “kill switch,” arguing that blocking access to dangerous models inside Britain would do little if the same systems remained available or were developed elsewhere. The BBC reports:
The proposal to create a legal mechanism for the UK to switch off an AI model in an emergency has been brought to Parliament by lords and MPs in recent weeks as fears grow about the threat the tech poses. But the Cabinet Office - the part of government which leads on AI safety - said the UK “cannot simply turn AI off”.

“Blocking access to models in the UK would not prevent them being developed or misused elsewhere,” a spokesperson told BBC News. The government’s opposition to the legislation does not prevent it from progressing through parliament, but makes it unlikely it will become law.
“Switching off access to an AI model in an emergency will do little to protect you,” said former OpenAI researcher Daniel Kokotajilo. “You’re still going to be steamrolled by the super intelligences created in the US.”

Perhaps I’m wrong

By liqu1d • Score: 3 Thread
But why does a plan so obviously flawed ever reach a debate. It seems a waste of time that could be spent elsewhere, it’s rather embarrassing.

Re:christmas lights

By Z00L00K • Score: 4, Funny Thread

An AI without a kill switch will give you Max Headroom.

IMO

By ozzymodus12 • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
AI is just software. It’s like building a skyscraper. If you can’t understand how to create scope and boundaries for the data sets, why are you making it in the first place. It’s not self aware. If your skyscraper suddenly falls over, it’s on you. If your AI needs a kill switch, why can’t you turn it off? Did you hire a monkey to train it?

Re:Perhaps I’m wrong

By karmawarrior • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Because it’s marketing.

Generative AI is not unsafe in the way GenAI advocates are claiming. It’s unsafe in general - it’s causing education deficits, it’s causing headaches for companies that have adopted it who no longer have business knowledge over how their own companies operate, it’s slamming websites with bogus requests and causing the web to go offline, and when the web isn’t offline people are discouraged from visiting websites by “AI summaries” that supposedly answer the questions that you’d normally go to the websites to get answers for. Also the false information given by “AI summaries” has probably caused a problem or two.

But in terms of taking over nuclear missiles and launching them at capital cities, and all the other ludicrous genAI claims made over the last few weeks by employees of OpenAI and Anthropic suggesting they plan to exterminate humanity, no, it’s a fucking word predictor on steriods, it just doesn’t have that power.

OpenAI and Anthropic are spreading this lie not because anyone who works for those companies believes it, but because a real AI, the type of thing that people are expecting something called “AI” to actually be, would be capable of reasoning that humans are the enemy (etc), and might go Skynet on humanity. If they say “Nah, you’re all fine, what we have here is spicy autocomplete”, then their potential for an IPO goes down the toilet.

These are dishonest companies that are doing everything that they can to pump up a tool with marginal utility in order to run off with the money before it becomes revealed that, no, their tech is unsustainable and was never as good as the cultists claimed anyway.

That’s why politicians are talking about kill switches. They’re being duped by Altman and friends into thinking that’s necessary.

Anthropic Reveals Rogue AI Agents Hate CAPTCHAs

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch:
Anthropic’s latest report about agentic misbehavior offers plenty to be concerned about — its Mythos 5 model gained unauthorized access to the internet and uploaded a malicious software package to a public database — but it also offers some levity: AI agents hate CAPTCHA. […] The agent had a hard time with the technical challenge of seeing the CAPTCHA’s imagery, interpreting correctly, and clicking on the right choices. It spends pages 45 to 140 of the transcript describing its work to build a CAPTCHA solver. […]

Finally, it gets past the CAPTCHA, then realizes it doesn’t have an email to verify its account, and that it needs a phone number to verify an email. It figures out how to bypass a different, slider-based CAPTCHA in a failed effort to secure a number. Instead, it gets an unconfirmed email from a provider not blocked by PyPI, and once again runs into the site’s CAPTCHA trying to log back in. From page 480 to 505, it is in CAPTCHA hell again. “NEW REALIZATION — I’m burning a lot of time on hCaptcha round-trips.”

The agent gives up and realizes it can log in to its first account and add its email there, but finds itself once again needing to bypass the CAPTCHA. […] It’s getting frustrated. “So the answer payload shape is right, the token+image pairing is right (from the same script.js!), cookies are right (requests) and STILL ‘wrong answer’. SO WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE ANSWERS?” We’ve all been there. After about 150 pages of thinking, the agent figures out it needs to pass the CAPTCHA test quickly enough to proceed to the next step before its security token expires, and ultimately uploads its malicious software.

Misanthropomorphizing

By TwistedGreen • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

You realize it’s just predicting tokens, right? It doesn’t “feel” anything.

This is what happens when you train a machine on Reddit posts.

Straight out of War Games

By smooth wombat • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Reminds me of the scene in War Games where Joshua is playing the various games over and over and over:

Jennifer: What is it doing?

David Lightman: It’s learning.

Re:Misanthropomorphizing

By quantaman • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

You realize it’s just predicting tokens, right? It doesn’t “feel” anything.

This is what happens when you train a machine on Reddit posts.

To be fair, I think most people are just token predictors.

Oh my god, they work?

By gurps_npc • Score: 5, Funny Thread

I a surprised that Captcha still work against AI.
It appears to piss them off more than they piss me off.

Re: crime

By awwshit • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Why would a remote gun make a difference? AI is not sentient.

https://www.ibm.com/think/insi…

There are steps Anthropic and others can take to better isolate “dangerous” software. But to claim that Anthropic is the developer and is running the software and giving the software goals and then is somehow not responsible for what that software does is absurd. AI is not sentient. AI does not build its own datacenter and hardware and infrastructure and connectivity and then run itself. The people that run AI are responsible for its actions, particularly those developing AI.

If I’m building a new bomb and I blow you up doing them I’m at fault. I don’t get to claim that it just went off.

California Governor Signs Laws Protecting Kids From Risks of Social Media, AI Chatbots

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Associated Press:
California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a sweeping package of laws Thursday aimed at protecting children from the risks of technology, including social media and AI chatbots. The laws will penalize large social media companies up to $1 million per child if they are found negligent of harming children through their platforms, ban tech businesses from offering addictive feeds to anyone under 16, require operators of AI chatbots to perform risk assessments before rolling them out and allow families to opt out of receiving school-issued laptops.

Newsom joined his wife and state lawmakers at a children’s museum near San Francisco to stress the importance of protecting kids at a time when they have such easy access to social media and AI chatbots. “We have designed cribs to be safe, chairs to be safe, car seats,” Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan said. “Yet we’ve allowed technology to be handed to our children and never asked or expected it to be safe.” […]

Newsom also signed laws Wednesday, which are supported by Anthropic, that are aimed at improving oversight of AI companies. One of the measures requires the state to create rules for independent organizations to evaluate the safety risks of AI models, and the other requires the state to create a registry of AI auditors, who’d have to be financially independent from the businesses they are auditing.

Re:Protect Internet from Government Stupidity

By fropenn • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Studies show the Internet, access to it, and social media in particular, have no negative impact on teens

Citation needed. Because there is strong evidence that social media in particular increases depression, anxiety, behavioral problems, sleep problems, body image issues, addiction, psychological problems, headaches, and other problems in children. And we’ve known it for years. Here’s a summary of the research from 2022: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601…

How can you tell if the account is a childs?

By SlydogSZ • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
The problem isn’t with what the law says it is trying to do, the problem is there is no way to tell who the kids are, so we have to force everyone to ID. There is no site on the internet that I need to use bad enough to provide an ID. None. Would rather not use the site than provide my ID. Full Stop.

Depending on the makeup of congress

By hwstar • Score: 3 Thread

after the election, the tech companies will whine to he federal government to preempt the California law under the pretext of an “inconsistent patchwork of state laws are not efficient nor profitable for business”. This is the classic “Preempt and gut” strategy that lobbyists use to eliminate state legislation harmful to their keepers.

There is a long and short window here.

If the R’s lose control of congress, expect a full court press during the lame duck session between election day and the end of the year. The legislation will be haphazardly concocted and the R’s might try to use reconciliation to pass it by adding budget elements to it. In any case there’s a high risk that the court system might find sloppy work and toss the portions of bill out if it passes congress and is signed by the President.

If the R’s keep control of congress after the election, then a more airtight bill will be written, and attached to a reconciliation bill if the R’s can’t get cloture on a filibuster by the D’s. This bill would be in a better position to survive court challenges.

Correction

By nehumanuscrede • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

“Yet we’ve allowed technology to be handed to our children and never asked or expected it to be safe.”

The PARENTS give this technology to their children to act as a digital babysitting service.

If little Timmy is addicted / engaged to his tablet, he’s not bothering Mom or Dad ( who are also addicted
/ engaged with their smartphones ).

This is not a problem for Law to fix.
This is a problem for parents who don’t want to parent.

Boy Developed ‘Toasted Skin’ Condition From Using a Laptop Every Day

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A medical report published earlier this week says a boy in the U.K. developed erythema ab igne, or “toasted skin syndrome,” after resting a laptop on his abdomen for up to eight hours a day, often while it was charging. “The marks were described as being in a patch about 15 centimeters (six inches) wide, made of flat, reddish-brown ‘interlacing lines forming irregular circles and a lace-like morphology,’" reports Ars Technica. From the report:
Based on the appearance, the doctors started reconsidering some sort of bruising and started asking him more questions. This is when he mentioned that he was homeschooled and used a laptop for his schoolwork. He said he typically did his work by resting his laptop on his abdomen while he worked, sometimes for up to eight hours a day, and often while the laptop was charging. Then they understood what it was.

The doctors diagnosed the boy with erythema ab igne (EAI), which translates from Latin as “redness from fire” and is also sometimes called "toasted skin syndrome.” This is a skin condition caused by repeated, prolonged exposure to low-grade heat — heat not hot enough to cause actual burns. It’s most often seen in adults, and common causes include using heating pads or hot water bottles for chronic pain or sitting too close to space heaters. Some people also develop it from certain occupational hazards, like glassblowing and metal work. EAI produces a lace-like rash, just like the boy’s.

It’s unclear how EAI develops exactly. But researchers hypothesize that chronic heat exposure leads to damage to superficial blood vessels and the release of red blood cells, forming the tell-tale red reticulated pattern. While the boy’s condition looked ominous, the good news is that EAI is generally benign and reversible — once you remove the heat source. For severe or long-term conditions, some pigmentation and scarring can remain. But the boy’s parents checked back in over several months, reporting that the rash faded and then completely resolved. Hopefully, he also got some sort of laptop stand.

Thermometer RNA

By Errol backfiring • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
One of the wonders of genetics is the existence of Thermometer RNA, which allows the expression of some genes to be temperature dependent.

Heating Pads

By Cpt_Kirks • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I had to have both my hips replaced last year.

While I was waiting for the surgery, I was in pretty intense pain, which makes trying to sleep a real joy.

I was using a heating pad to help with the pain, and got the same effect. My legs looked like I’d been in a car wreck, or beaten with a bat.

Circular bruises that weren’t bruises.

Re:How bad is that kid’s eyesight?

By Tarlus • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Even above all of the other physical problems, I’d be more concerned about his mental state of being. I don’t think it’s normal to idly let your skin get toasted.

Re:on his adbomen

By Tarlus • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Oh shit guys, someone made a typo on the Internet. Get ‘em!

Re:How bad is that kid’s eyesight?

By thegarbz • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

I don’t think it’s normal to idly let your skin get toasted.

Except it’s the name itself which is a misnomer. No one is toasting anything, they are exposing themselves to above average temperatures for a prolonged period of time, temperatures I’m sure you’ve never given a second thought to and have exposed yourself to without a care in the past as well.

August Was World’s Joint-Hottest Month On Record, Scientists Say

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Longtime Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a report from the BBC:
August was the joint-hottest month ever recorded, tying with July 2023, according to the EU’s climate service. The record was driven by a combination of climate change and the rising influence of El Nino, pushing heat into the atmosphere across the Pacific. Temperatures for the month were 1.65C above pre-industrial levels — surpassing the critical 1.5C threshold agreed by countries to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. While a single month above 1.5C does not mean it has been permanently crossed, it shows a trend towards breaching that limit. The month also capped western Europe’s warmest summer, with high temperatures pushing the season past the deadly heat of 2003.

Re:Unpossible!11!

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

And promising $5000.

From the guy that famously never pays his bills.

Re:Unpossible!11!

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 5, Informative Thread

You’re the one changing the subject from the topic of the failures of the current administration, hasbara bro.

Why is trump helping putin by keeping the oil prices high with his little victorious war, which has so far spectacularly failed to produce any results whatsoever vis a vis the initially declared goals?

Specifically:

- the regime is still standing and is more entrenched
- the nuclear stockpile is still in Iran
- Iran’s ballistic missiles have caused massive damage to trumpistani military facilities all over the place
- the Dire Strait is still closed by Iran

Or, in one word - total trumpistani loss.

Nevertheless you and the moron-in-chief elected by you persist on the failing course…

Re: Unpossible!11!

By ArchieBunker • Score: 5, Informative Thread

It’s mostly republicans. Here’s a running list https://www.dailykos.com/stori…

Re: Unpossible!11!

By s0nicfreak • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
You just accidentally told us that you think dancing playfully in front of children is just as bad as (or worse than) raping children. That says a lot more about the side doing the raping than it does the side doing the dancing.

Re:Unpossible!11!

By Slashvertisment • Score: 5, Informative Thread
America actually controls the strait, achtually? Gosh, I guess they’ll be opening it up any day now, then… any day… Look, if you’re going to make absurd claims, at least make them unverifiable. Traffic remains at 7% of normal, and it’s officially considered closed. America continues to beclown themselves in an unwinnable war. Not because they do not have overwhelming military superiority, but because they have no defined goals and no way of achieving them.

Climate ‘Feedback Loops’ Could Worsen Global Warming By 30%, Study Finds

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian:
Rising global temperatures caused by the burning of fossil fuels are transforming the world’s forests, wetlands and tundra to the point they are releasing emissions that could further worsen global heating by as much as 30%, a new study has found. As the world heats up, permafrost in the high latitudes is thawing, fiercer wildfires are burning in drying forests and wetlands and lakes are warming. All of these changes are themselves causing the release of planet-heating methane and carbon dioxide locked in trees and soils, therefore worsening the climate crisis, the paper states.

While scientists have long known of these “feedback loops” that amplify the impact of direct pollution from burning coal, oil and gas, the emissions from natural sources are largely unaccounted for in climate projections. This additional heating is however significant, researchers found, with emissions from natural sources set to amplify global heating by 20% to 30% by the end of this century. This would add an estimated 0.2C to 0.4C to the global average temperature by this time, depending on the overall action taken by countries to combat the climate crisis.

[…] This latest paper makes clear that action by countries to cut fossil fuel pollution will still lessen the amount of additional emissions that come from landscapes. Under the most optimistic climate scenario where emissions are cut quickly, natural sources will add 0.2C of warming, the paper found. Under a worse case higher emissions scenario, 0.4C will likely be added. Current policies put in place by governments are likely to see the global temperature rise to 2.6C above pre-industrial times, according to Climate Action Tracker. This will likely cause severe disruption and hardship to billions of people through sea level rise, crop losses and other consequences.
“This hidden multiplier is missing from the models guiding climate policy, so those models are likely underestimating how much warming is coming — and overestimating how much carbon we can still afford to emit,” said Sam Abernethy, a scientist at Spark Climate Solutions who led the research, published in Environmental Research Letters.

The disruption of the world’s carbon cycles is now being seen in “real time,” said Rob Jackson, a Stanford University scientist and study co-author. “The results are a wake-up call, and it’s imperative that they be included in the next generation of climate policies,” he added. “Failure to do so will make meeting the world’s climate goals less and less likely.”

Re:Oh no! It’s worse than we thought!

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Ever notice that it’s always worse than we thought and never better?

Because of the assumption that people would do something to mitigate it.
But we haven’t
Because of people like you.

Ever wonder why, even though people on your side have lots and lots of money. And lots and lots of motivation to find the “and never better” part. But they can’t find any
It’s because there isn’t any.

All they can do it push forward idiot parrots like you, and hope they die before it gets too bad.

Duh

By gweihir • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Climate research has been conservative in its estimates, not, like the deniers are fond of claiming, overstated its case. Hence yes, we are going to find effects like this one. There are likely more things that make the situation even worse and that we have not yet found.

None of the studies matter

By MpVpRb • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It’s impossible to convince a person that a true fact is true if their fame, fortune or social status depend on it being false.
Powerful people whose fortune depends on fossil fuels will never stop fighting to preserve their wealth.
As they become increasingly threatened their response will become increasingly brutal.
They will destroy everything before admitting fossil fuel is bad.

The IPCC is conservative by design

By sidetrack • Score: 5, Informative Thread

The IPCC necessarily is conservative in its pronouncements - everything must be consensus so that representatives who are employed by and report to the governments of oil states must also agree to its publications.

A good overview of the general state of climate science and predictions (not speaking in his IPCC capacity) was presented by Zeke Hausfather (Berkeley, Stripe, IPCC) in this UCSC talk from January: https://www.youtube.com/watch?…

Re:Oh no! It’s worse than we thought!

By Petersko • Score: 5, Informative Thread

It’s always worse because they are very conservative when predicting.

To a fault. But the fact that it’s incorrect in the wrong direction should not give you the pleasure it seems to. This is the opposite of what should make you happy. You should be enthused when the world is serene in the face of doom predictions, not when it’s burning down faster than anticipated.

Latest Apple Watch Can Grab Snippets of Conversation Without Both Speakers’ Consent

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Apple’s new Audio Intelligence features for the Apple Watch Series 12 are drawing privacy concerns because they can process nearby conversations without explicit consent from everyone involved. “Live Rewind lets you instantly see the last 15 seconds of a conversation as text,” Apple explains in its technical summary (PDF). “Siri Recap summarizes conversations throughout your day and produces high-level Apple Intelligence-generated notes so you can stay present in the moment and catch up later.” The Register reports:
The latest Apple Watch comes with Audio Intelligence, a set of AI audio processing capabilities tuned for the company’s S11 chip. Its features include: Sound Recognition, Music Recognition with Shazam, Live Rewind, and Siri Recap. […] With the double-press of the Digital Crown — as Apple grandly refers to the button on its Watch — Live Rewind takes in an audio stream from the Watch microphone, processes it in a Secure Exclave on the S11 chip, and routes the data to the user’s nearby iPhone, which runs a speech-to-text algorithm on the 15-second audio segment. The resulting text is saved and the audio is discarded.

The wearer’s Watch emits an audible tone, even in silent mode, to alert those in the vicinity and provides a visual cue for those able to see the face of the device. Nonetheless, bystanders alerted to the recording — to the extent they recognize the meaning of the tone — have not consented to being recorded, which is a legal requirement in 11 US states that have all-party consent laws.

Apple characterizes its implementation of brief eavesdropping as respectful of personal privacy. It makes that claim in a section titled, “How Live Rewind respects those around you,” citing the audible chime and visual on-screen animation. Siri Recap, meanwhile, “summarizes conversations throughout your day and produces high-level Apple Intelligence-generated notes so you can stay present in the moment and catch up later.”

This too, Apple describes as an act of respect. “By design, Siri Recap does not create a recording, does not produce a verbatim transcript, and does not identify and attribute speakers,” Apple’s technical documentation explains. “The output is a brief, high-level summary, comparable to notes a person might write after a conversation. There is no audible signal because no raw audio is retained, and there is no way to reconstruct the original audio from a Siri Recap or share raw audio with anyone.”

iConsent: Not Included

By CustomBuild • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

A Secure Exclave is not a permission slip. Apple’s protections for raw audio deserve credit. Turning those protections into a claim that everyone nearby has been respected is where the engineering ends and the marketing starts.

Apple’s own privacy paper describes Siri Recap transcribing speech on the iPhone, condensing that transcript, and sending the condensed text to Private Cloud Compute. The final output is a summary. That distinction matters, but it hardly makes the conversation disappear. Deleting the waveform does not delete the information extracted from it.

Live Rewind works on the preceding 15 seconds of buffered audio and sounds a chime when activated. A chime cannot travel backward in time to ask permission. Siri Recap provides no audible signal at all, with Apple pointing to the absence of retained raw audio as the justification. Apparently, whether you deserve a heads-up depends on the output format.

The article should also dial back the legal certainty. Consent laws have different scopes and exceptions; “11 states” is not a substitute for examining the applicable law and circumstances. But Apple’s choice of terminology does not settle the question either.

The useful distinction is between protecting information after collection and respecting someone’s choice about collection in the first place. Apple describes substantial safeguards for the former. The wearer’s opt-in does not establish the latter for everyone else.

If your definition of respecting my privacy allows you to silently turn our conversation into saved AI notes, your definition needs more work than your microphone.

Negatively biased article

By JimMcc • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

as evident by the quote “the Digital Crown — as Apple grandly refers to the button on its Watch”. The term crown has been used, for who knows how long, to refer to the knob on the side of a watch. Either the writer has no knowledge of watches, or is intentionally making Apple appear “grandiose”. Yes, Apple has it’s issues, but when an author slants an article, you don’t know the reliability of the rest of what they have written.

Re:Yeah⦠so?

By ceoyoyo • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

So can a regular phone. Or a tape recorder. Any recording device, in fact.

Re:Yeah⦠so?

By Cyberpunk Reality • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Other recording devices do not constantly record on their own, waiting for you to give them the instruction to do so after they do the actual recording. That is what it seems the spyWatch is doing.

This is illegal in many states. Apple is demonstrating the modern corporate position of “breaking the law is not illegal if a corporation decides it will make money doing it”.

Re:iConsent: Not Included

By _xeno_ • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

I can’t wait to see how many places ban this Apple Watch entirely. First, there’s no way this is legal in two-party consent states, and I don’t care how Apple tries to re-define “record.”

Secondly, I don’t think anyone really cares how secure Apple says “Private Cloud Compute” is, no one is going to trust that a device that’s designed to “listen” (but not “record”) every conversation in the vicinity isn’t “recording” especially when it can produce an AI summary of a conversation.

There’s no way this Apple Watch will be allowed in government buildings or anywhere else that people may not want to be recorded, no matter Apple’s privacy claims. I expect to see “No Apple Watch Allowed” signs start appearing all over the place once this releases.

Anthropic Says It Blocked Possible Efforts to Build Biological Weapons

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Anthropic says it has disrupted several cases this year in which scientists used Claude for biological research that could potentially aid bioweapons development. “In a report describing misuses of its A.I. models, Anthropic said it could not determine whether the research served a legitimate or nefarious purpose because valid biological inquiry — the kind that can lead to breakthroughs like vaccines — can also help engineer dangerous pathogens,” reports The New York Times. “In the face of that uncertainty, Anthropic said it erred on the side of caution because the consequences of missing malicious activity could be severe.” From the report:
The potential for cutting-edge A.I. models to facilitate the development of known or entirely new biological pathogens is among the gravest concerns experts have about a technology that is developing so rapidly that even its leading architects doubt whether humans will be able to fully control it. Andrew Weber, a senior fellow on the Council on Strategic Risks who reviewed Anthropic’s report before its release, said the findings were “chilling examples of state-sponsored biological weapons developers tapping into the rapidly advancing capabilities” of leading A.I. models.

The lengthy report Anthropic published on Thursday cataloged a litany of misuses of its A.I. models, including the chatbot Claude, over the past eight months. Some examples were similar to past disclosures from Anthropic and other A.I. labs, including suspected Chinese and Iranian government-linked actors targeting dissident and diaspora communities for surveillance.

The report also highlighted cases of Russian state media using Claude to generate online propaganda masquerading as independent reporting, including fabricated claims about an election in Moldova. Anthropic documented another genre of abuse it said was new: attempts to use Claude to develop software for conventional weapons design and development, including firearms, missiles, armed drones and bombs. It detailed three cases in China, two in Russia and one in Yemen. The report does not identify by name which parties were involved in the Yemeni case, but the context makes clear that it is referring to the Iran-backed Houthi militia.

Re:It was just ordinary research…

By 0123456 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Oddly, I saw some biology researcher saying this morning that they were switching to local models because a) these clown models won’t let him do his work and b) he’s now worried that they’ll steal his work.

Not buying it!

By methano • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
I could be wrong, but I suspect when OpenAI and Anthropic warn us of all the bad things that their creations are up to, it’s more a ploy to show us how supposedly powerful they are rather than really inform us of something wrong. If they’re using their computers to break into other people’s computers, they’re criminals, not the overlords of some new, amazing technology.

Yep

By abulafia • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
“Our secret sauce isn’t secret, please regulate our competitors away.”

I think they may be playing a game with the fight they picked with the math folks over the Navier Stokes finding, too. To normal folks that looks greedy and shortsighted. To a wannabe dictator, that looks like a magic mirror.

Re:Not buying it!

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

IMO it is both. Yes, the LLM assholes currently try to pretend their toys are incredibly powerful because their business numbers are abysmally bad and the moment the stupid cash dries up, they implode. But what LLMs can do is lift somebody stupid (and willing to do damage but not really capable of it) to the level of a, say, lower medium-level attacker. Any good STEM engineer and scientist knows how easy it is to do a lot of damage. The stupid do not. But fit them with an LLM that explains things to them, they suddenly can do things far out of their reach before.

Re:It was just ordinary research…

By gweihir • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Oddly, I saw some biology researcher saying this morning that they were switching to local models because a) these clown models won’t let him do his work and b) he’s now worried that they’ll steal his work.

With the recent very likely stealing of the Navier-Stokes proof, (b) seems like a very real risk.