Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. AI’s Memory Crunch Is Coming For Android Apps
  2. OpenAI Is Developing a ‘Persistent’ AI Agent
  3. Ring Says New Encryption Limits What It Can Give Police
  4. Claude, Codex, and Hermes Installed Unowned Code Inside Corporate Networks
  5. Trump Declares National Emergency to Ban Some Foreign Grid Equipment
  6. Panic Passes Trump Tariff Refunds Back to Playdate Customers
  7. Nvidia Agrees to Acquire Hugging Face For $13 Billion
  8. Operation Bluebird Launches New Twitter
  9. How Meta’s Plan To Replace Workers With AI Agents Fell Apart
  10. More Than 100 Water Systems Were Hit In July Cyberattacks
  11. Radiation Link In Flight Attendant’s Breast Cancer, French Court Finds
  12. Bill Gates Proposes Major Limits On AI Development
  13. OpenAI Releases Its Official Report On the Hugging Face Breach
  14. China’s Moonshot In Talks With Microsoft, Amazon, Google Over K3 Revenue Sharing
  15. Apple Maps Now Has Ads

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

AI’s Memory Crunch Is Coming For Android Apps

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Google is imposing new memory-use limits on Android apps as the AI data center boom contributes to a broader memory chip shortage that could leave lower-cost phones with less RAM. Developers will have until February 2027 to meet new thresholds for memory and bitmap usage. To aid developers, Google is adding tools to flag apps that exceed the limits and help prevent slowdowns and crashes. TechCrunch reports:
The company explains that the mobile industry is now facing “significant hardware supply constraints that are altering device memory availability,” which can then, in turn, affect the consumer’s experience with their devices. To address this, Google is now establishing new performance thresholds across several areas, like dynamic memory usage and bitmap usage. In addition, Google is adding code optimization requirements designed to prevent things like app slowdowns and crashes related to performance.

OpenAI Is Developing a ‘Persistent’ AI Agent

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Wired reports that OpenAI is testing a new “Persistent mode” for Codex that would let the agent keep working until explicitly “put to sleep,” proactively creating follow-up tasks for itself across sessions and using prior interactions and knowledge of the user to decide what to do next. Code alluding to the feature was spotted in the product’s code base, though it has not been rolled out or officially announced yet. From the report:
Persistent mode appears in Codex’s “reasoning effort” menu, in which users can select the level of computing power, tokens, and time they want to allow for an AI model to “think” before answering a prompt. It seems to be one of OpenAI’s most computationally intensive settings. When users have selected Persistent mode, OpenAI’s code base reads that Codex will “continue working until put to sleep.” That’s a stark contrast to currently available modes, which will stop working on a task after a few minutes or hours, even if it’s not complete.

In another file in the code base, OpenAI describes a feature within Persistent mode called “proactivity.” This appears to be a type of system prompt for agents in Persistent mode, which are told that their work is not done when they finish answering a user’s request. Instead, the agent is instructed to proactively create follow-up tasks for itself. The agent is capable of working on those tasks across sessions and using past user interactions and “knowledge of the user” to decide what to work on. It also has a tool to message the user without being asked but is told to send these sparingly.

The instructions also set limits for the agent, according to the file. The agent is told that Persistent mode does not expand what it is allowed to do and that altering anything outside the user’s own system requires the user’s approval first — seemingly intended to limit how dangerous a persistent AI agent could be. The file sits in the shared core of Codex rather than in the code specific to the terminal, seeming to suggest the proactivity feature is intended for more than the command line tool.

Ring Says New Encryption Limits What It Can Give Police

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Ring is rolling out a new default encryption system called TAKE, or “Throw Away the Key Encryption,” that rotates video keys every five minutes and permanently deletes Ring’s copy after 24 hours. The system is designed to preserve cloud features such as smart alerts and AI video search while limiting what Ring can provide under legal process to non-video account information and encrypted footage. The Verge reports:
Ring says TAKE uses unique, rotating encryption keys for your footage, stored in a secure enclave and accessible only under strict conditions — based on the features you enable on your account. Currently, footage captured by Ring cameras is encrypted in transit to the cloud and at rest, and then decrypted for Ring to process for those smart features. With TAKE, the encryption keys change for every five minutes of footage. Ring stores copies of those keys to decrypt the footage, but throws away each copy within 24 hours, “leaving you with the keys and full control of your videos,” according to Ring.

TAKE was developed using Messaging Layer Security, an open standard from the Internet Engineering Task Force, according to Ring. The company says it is “inspired by the privacy principles of E2EE (end-to-end encryption),” which Ring offers on some of its cameras. However, the two systems work differently. With E2EE, Ring never has the keys and can’t process your video for cloud-based features. Both options are available on newer cameras that encrypt on-device, and you can switch between the two. Older cameras encrypt at cloud ingress and only support TAKE.

According to a white paper the company published today, Ring’s copy of those keys is managed inside an AWS Nitro Enclave, to which Ring’s access is restricted by “access controls, cryptography, and hardware isolation.” The company claims there is no persistent storage and no way for a Ring employee to access it. The stored keys can only be unlocked by the enclave through cryptographic attestation that proves it’s running the exact software image Ring approved. The enclave releases a temporary key when an enabled service requests it.
When asked about what happens if Ring is subpoenaed by law enforcement, a spokesperson for the company said: “Where TAKE is enabled, Ring will only be able to provide non-video information (such as basic subscriber information) and encrypted video files in response to the valid legal process. We have updated our Law Enforcement Guidelines to reflect this change.”

Seems reasonable

By swillden • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Companies should, in general, avoid keeping any user data one second longer than they legitimately need it. Data should be viewed as a liability more than an asset, and every company that achieves significant scale with user data soon realizes this, though some take longer than others to learn the lesson.

The reason it’s a liability is because it exposes the company to an endless stream of warrants and subpoenas, and contrary to popular belief, the government does not pay for that data. In some cases the government might pay a portion of the expenses the company incurs in responding, but it’s always still a net loss, and most of the time the government just shows up with a court order and says “Hand it over or be held in contempt of court”. What makes it even worse is if companies actually want to be good stewards of the data and not hand over more than they should, they’ll often get overly-broad requests and then have to go to court to fight to narrow or quash the requests.

This all gets very expensive. It’s just a cost of doing business… but it’s a cost that can be avoided if you don’t have and can’t get the data.

Encrypt everything, and arrange to destroy the keys when you no longer need the data is the best way to do it, too. Scrubbing large databases quickly and effectively is hard. Deleting a set of AES keys is a lot easier. This also means that you can focus your internal access controls on controlling which systems and employees can get the keys.

I’d encourage Ring to find ways to close the window of access even more.

Claude, Codex, and Hermes Installed Unowned Code Inside Corporate Networks

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
Documentation files on more than 100 websites are referencing potentially dangerous executable content that gets installed automatically when visited by many AI agents [including Claude, OpenAI’s Codex, and Nous Research’s Hermes]. A few dozen companies, some of them Fortune 500s, are among those that executed proof-of-concept code. At least one misconfigured site is directing visitors, human or AI, to live malware.

The potentially dangerous content is in llms.txt and llms-full.txt files, an emerging convention websites employ to provide machine-readable summaries of the site’s content and its high-level structure. These files are the AI equivalent of the robots.txt standard that instructs search engines how to index the site’s content. Google Lighthouse, a tool for helping web developers, has more here. Correctly configured llms.txt and llms-full.txt files for Cloudflare are here and here.
“The trust model is broken,” Alon Hertz, one of the researchers, wrote in an interview. “Agents treat vendor docs as ground truth and don’t question them — and neither do the humans supervising them. Agentic AI usage is exploding, and agents are spreading across every layer — SaaS, cloud, endpoint. As they multiply, so does the supply-chain surface, and today’s guards don’t cover it.”
“An agent doesn’t distinguish between a page and a command,” the researchers wrote Thursday. “Everything it reads is input, and every input is a potential instruction. Which means the entire corpus of published data that agents are now wired to consume has silently become an execution surface — and almost none of it carries the integrity guarantees we apply to actual code.”

Gaslighting

By Grady Martin • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Notice the narrative’s attempt to divert blame toward the Web at large: “It’s not our fault; your ‘misconfigured site’ is the problem.” In the real world, the LLM industry bears the onus for piping together arbitrary execution locally to arbitrary input over HTTP.

Any attempt to claim otherwise is a distraction. Disregard it.

Trump Declares National Emergency to Ban Some Foreign Grid Equipment

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Longtime Slashdot reader dhartshorn writes:
Foreign-produced “bulk power” equipment is now effectively banned, and the list of what constitutes such equipment is essentially everything used to make up the grid… much of which we are heavily dependent on foreign sources to supply.
In a Wednesday executive order, President Trump said foreign supply of electric equipment “constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat” to national security. The Hill reports:
Under the order, it will be up to Energy Secretary Chris Wright, in coordination with other officials, to determine whether a piece of equipment poses an issue. The order could impact a wide range of equipment, including substations, transformers, batteries used for energy storage, generators, turbines, software and more. It does not lay out specific threats or single out any country by name.

[…] Under the last Trump administration, the president put a similar order in place. The new order comes amid several reported cyberattacks on U.S. water systems, which officials suspect have links to Iran, according to The New York Times.

Brilliant!

By Local ID10T • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

A National Emergency Declaration that says we cannot purchase the critical equipment that is in such demand that it takes 6 months to 2 years to get already? We will just step out of line and let it go to whomever else wants it.

If there were available domestic suppliers of this equipment, all of the production would already be spoken for. There is unmet demand NOW.

[Oww, my balls!]

Coming soon…

By dirk • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I expect to see a bunch of foreign power companies staying at Trump properties, playing golf at Trump resorts, and buying a ton of Trump coin followed shortly by their equipment being said to be “safe” and allowed to be imported. We NEED this equipment because we don’t make most of it here and definitely not enough of it, so it will have to be allowed in. This is just a way for Trump to get paid by them to be allowed in.

Dude is gonna induce a depression

By backslashdot • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Trade wars, sky-high inflation .. and he’s doubling down on all the things causing it. What could go wrong? This is the golden age? Democrats are too dumb to play back his words and remind people we’re supposed to be in a golden age.

He’s been doing drastic shit for two years and it’s not improved things for anyone except billionaires.

Re:Laying the groundwork

By Junta • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

For some definition of ‘they’, sure, there’s always *someone* paranoid about the scenario.

However there’s a fair amount more credible supposition over this one. Trump’s sore loser reaction has paved the way for some dangerous moves.

In 2020, he only went to interfere *after* the fact, but he clearly interfered. When the results betrayed him, he sought to overturn them and when that failed he tried to ignore the electors and use their own anyway and as that failed he tried to get Pence to reject the election and as that failed he incited a mom to try to disrupt the proceedings. He learned that in a fair game he actually could lose and that was unacceptable and he was willing to do whatever it takes to replace a loss with a win.

Now he and opportunistic cohorts are already much more proactive about it. Every reason to anticipate any plausible excuse to rig or discard the elections as he has proven himself already willing to do so and is surrounded by a much more all-in administration than his first term. Already trying to mess with mail-in, already openly rigged the representative maps, already been working ICE and national guard troops to get the hang of domestic military operations. Stephen Miller once basically publicly fantasized about sending republican controlled national guard into democratic states against their will to make them bend to his will.

I do anticipate the election will be *held* and if and only if the results are a loss will they try anything like an ‘emergency’, but I absolutely expect ICE and national guards to be doing operations around strategic polling sites. Ostensibly about immigration or crime, but with the oh so coincidental side effect of voter suppression.

Let’s be clear here

By Whateverthisis • Score: 3 Thread
Generally not a Trump supporter, but this executive order is a lot less than the hyperbolic headline and summary would suggest.

The executive order gives the Energy Secretary the power to designate certain organizations as potential risks, with a primary focus on Chinese suppliers. This doesn’t outright ban “all foreign suppliers” of electrical grid equipment, the biggest suppliers of which are ABB and SIemens, both European and they are not banned. Organizations like ABB and Siemens will have to document their subcontractor exposure to Chinese suppliers, and certain suppliers in that supply chain may be banned forcing them to find an alternative to that component, but that’s a very different scenario than “All foreign electrical grid equipment is banned!” as this headline and summary portray.

And the order is in response, as the summary accurately says, to Iranian sourced subcomponents in the water infrastructure that led to a cyber-attack. Ultimately this is about making sure our grid is not exposed to cyber secuirty risks. I’m all for Trump outrage, but let’s direct it to the stuff he actually deserves; this issue is the kind of thing that if it came up during the Obama administration I think it would be implemented exactly the same way and with no news about it.

Panic Passes Trump Tariff Refunds Back to Playdate Customers

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Panic is refunding Playdate customers the 19% tariff charges it passed along while the Trump administration’s import duties were in effect, after the Supreme Court ruled the tariffs illegal and the company began receiving refunds from the government. Panic says the money “just [wasn’t] ours to keep.” Ars Technica reports:
In an update posted on the Playdate help site this week, Panic noted that it has finally “begun to receive refunds of the tariffs we paid in the last year” and had consequently “refunded all tariffs charged to customers.”

In the initial version of that tariff note, Panic explained that it couldn’t afford to simply “absorb” the 19 percent tariffs it was being charged to import Playdate hardware made overseas because “our margins on Playdate are low.” As such, while the tax was in effect, it was passed along to customers as an explicit subtotal line item at the bottom of all Playdate orders. That’s in contrast to companies like Nintendo, which vaguely cited “market conditions” and tariff “uncertainty” in raising the asking price of legacy hardware and some Switch 2 accessories last year.

Speaking to Game Developer, Panic co-founder Cabel Sasser said filing paperwork to claw back these taxes and processing tariff refunds for customers took a fair bit of backend work. Still, he said returning that money to Playdate purchasers in the end was a no-brainer. “It’s just not our money to keep, and it felt really good to give it back,” Sasser said. “That’s an easy way to know you made the right decision.” “It just felt like the right thing to do,” Panic wrote in a refund email message shared on Reddit.

So in the end

By ArchieBunker • Score: 3 Thread

It was just a cash grab for mega corps. How much money is Amazon and Walmart returning?

Re:WHo?

By geekmux • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Google is your friend.

Should I Google ‘journalist’ first, or has that already been replaced with ‘fuck off and do it yourself’?

Ah, the hallowed honorary halls of Fine Journalism..don’t we look forward to bestowing them with the great delusionists of the laziest decade ever..

Re:WHo?

By cyberfunkr • Score: 4, Informative Thread

With a product named Playdate, and not much else to go on, I couldn’t tell if the article was safe to read at work, or do a web search.

It would have been quite easy to start the summary with:

> Panic, creator of the tiny, handheld game system Playdate, is refunding customers the 19% tariff charges it passed along…

Two ethical companies

By abulafia • Score: 4, Informative Thread
Don’t forget Costco. As far as I know the only public company doing so.

Re:one ethical company

By smooth wombat • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Tariffs are a tax collected by business for the government. Since Trump is the one who gave the illegal order, he would be responsible, but since the Supreme Court has ruled a president is untouchable, nothing will be done.

Nvidia Agrees to Acquire Hugging Face For $13 Billion

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The Information reported on Wednesday that Nvidia has agreed to buy open-source platform Hugging Face for $12.9 billion. “Deal talks began after Hugging Face, an open-source AI platform developers use to collaborate, test and share tools, received acquisition interest from another suitor,” reports CNBC, citing the (paywalled) report. Business Insider separately reported the acquisition talks. From CNBC:
If completed, the acquisition would put one of the most widely used platforms for sharing and working with open-source AI models under Nvidia’s ownership, expanding the chipmaker’s reach further into the software and model ecosystem. Siddy Jobe, a fund manager at Eonopolis Exponential Technologies funds, said it made sense for Nvidia to target a company like Hugging Face, as Nvidia has made it clear that it is not looking to discriminate between closed and open-source models.

“I think Nvidia is very much a community, a platform-based company, and in that respect, I think Hugging Face fits perfectly within that. There is this five-layer cake from Nvidia, and foundational models are one of them,” Jobe told CNBC’s Squawk Box Europe on Thursday. “It is clear that Nvidia wants to be integrated in the entire stack vertically, going from energy to foundational models and also to applications,” he added.

Re:WTF

By Targon • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The bubble continues to inflate, and when it pops, it will get VERY ugly. Worse than 2008, that’s for sure.

In the ultimate circle jerk..

By Fly Swatter • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Hugging Face is also acquiring Nvidia with the 13 Billion they gained by being acquired by Nvidia.

$13 billion for a file server

By xack • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Just proves that cryptocurrency bros aren’t the only ones taking this piss out of the economy. Our broken economics is causing real nazis, and needs to be fixed.

Re:In the ultimate circle jerk..

By geekmux • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Hugging Face is also acquiring Nvidia with the 13 Billion they gained by being acquired by Nvidia.

(20th Century Corruption) “Hey, we’ve got this Ponzi thing, but we kinda need to keep it hush hush..”

(21st Century Corruption) “Ever get naked and slap an Insider Trading dildo across Wall Streets face? Hold my beer and get ready to livestream this mothafuckin’ IPO..”

Re:WTF

By sarren1901 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It’s a website that host open AI models that you can run on your own computer. I’ve grabbed a couple models from there. Produced some neat stuff locally just to see what it could do. If I had more video ram, I’d likely be able to do even more.

With that said, these models are becoming slimmer and more powerful all time. You can do a lot more locally today then even a year ago, with precisely the same hardware. Of course, hardware costs have shot up over the past 3 years to absurd levels, so that’s not helping the situation.

Still, I’d rather be able to run AI models locally and not have to rely on the foundational models (the massive online ones that cost) for every day stuff unless I had to.

For me, it’s just something to mess around with but it’s still neat.

It is concerning that Nvidia is buying them but then again, nvidia sells shovels for the gold rush, so there’s a chance it could get even better. Of course, I imagine OpenAI is backstage whispering to weaken this platform so people are beholden to them instead. That’s the real fear.

Operation Bluebird Launches New Twitter

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica:
Operation Bluebird, the Virginia-based startup trying to revive the allegedly abandoned “Twitter” name and logo, announced Monday that it has launched its new social media network: Twitter.now. “We are a small company, we have investors, and we have a product,” Stephen Coates, one of Operation Bluebird’s cofounders, told Ars. “And we have waited months and months to launch, and we are not going to wait anymore.”

[…] Twitter.now, still in its nascent stage, only has hundreds of users for the time being. The social media network looks and feels much like the Twitter of old and many of its offshoots — it has replies and retweets. A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet. Coates has been testing Vera in recent days by posting obviously false messages, like “George Washington was our second president.”

“Our first goal is to see if we can truly bring back a town square that’s safer and less harmful,” he said. “We say freedom of speech and not freedom of reach. We want people to say what they want, but we also want to create a platform that’s not financially locked into that viral content that’s harmful or inaccurate.”
Operation Bluebird argues that Elon Musk effectively abandoned the Twitter brand and trademarks when he renamed the company X, opening the door for the startup to claim them. X Corp. sued to stop the effort, but a federal judge tentatively ruled in April that X appeared to have relinquished rights to “tweet,” the bird logo, and possibly “Twitter” itself, though no written ruling has been issued.
Bluebird has taken that as enough of a green light to move forward while emphasizing that its new Twitter is not affiliated with X. “Operation Bluebird, Inc. picked up the name X Corp. walked away from and is rebuilding it on trust, in your browser at twitter.now,” it states prominently on its website. “We are not X, and we are not affiliated with X Corp.”

Re:Something you are failing to mention…

By stormguard2099 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

What is a “fighter” in this context?

A mark.

Re:The old Twitter is gone forever

By Powercntrl • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Reality has a center-left bias. If your social media platform doesn’t fall within that realm, you’ve probably done something to drive off a portion of your liberal users. Musk has. It’s well known that left-leaning users get feeds full of rage bait to drive up engagement. The scheme works on some people, but others just get fed up and leave.

I also don’t really buy that the old Twitter was anti-conservative as some people claimed. They just enforced their TOS more strictly in those days. On the far ends of the political spectrum you’ve got literal Nazis on the extreme right, and on the extreme left liberals suggesting things like giving everyone UBI and free healthcare. Care to take a guess which side is more likely to be expressing their viewpoint in a way that violates the TOS?

Re:Why in the actual fuck would anyone do it?

By smooth wombat • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Remember when Elon bought the place and ran most of them out on a rail?

Considering Elon WORKED for the government to spread propaganda, continues to censor certain posts and words, blocked publication of information about J.D. Vance prior to the election, and continues to let lies about the 2020 election proliferate, no, I don’t remember.

Re:Why in the actual fuck would anyone do it?

By MachineShedFred • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

That’s the real source of angst around/about Elon and X.

Not even close.

Elon is actively reposting white nationalist horseshit. That’s a pretty big source of angst.
The “For You” tab is a firehose of propaganda shitposts that you probably never asked for, targeted to piss you off and keep you hate-posting. That’s a pretty big source of angst.
They still “label” accounts that say things they don’t like to shadowban, with no recourse or even any human review / audit / appeal. That causes angst, and it’s also the censorship you are screaming about.

X is run by the biggest shitposting troll on the planet, and it shows.

Re:The old Twitter is gone forever

By MachineShedFred • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Spare me the “red scare” bullshit.

Show one serious person who has an actual avenue to do any of this bullshit and I’ll believe you. No, talking about some dipshit streamer on Twitch isn’t getting there. Show an elected politician in the US, or one that is currently running as a major party candidate that advocates “outright Communism” or praises Chairman Mao.

Prove your bullshit claim.

This is the same scare tactics bullshit as the “sharia law” dogwhistle. The only elected in office right now that is increasing the creep of socialism and communism is President Trump with his government price controls on hundreds of thousands of tons of imported mystery meat that he won’t tell us where it’s actually coming from (“most transparent administration in history”), heavy-handed central economic planning through tariffs and trying to fire FED governors that don’t do what he wants, and seizing the means of production through the Treasury buying equity stakes in private business.

How Meta’s Plan To Replace Workers With AI Agents Fell Apart

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Reuters reports that Meta explored shrinking some teams by as much as 60% as part of an “AI native” restructuring plan that would shift much of employees’ day-to-day work to AI agents and smaller teams of human “builders.” But the effort quickly ran into employee revolt and disappointing productivity gains, leading Zuckerberg to scrap a planned second wave of cuts after Meta laid off 10% of its workforce in May. From the report:
In January, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his top lieutenants gathered for their annual leadership retreat at his Hawaii compound. There they hatched a radical plan to reimagine work at the social-media giant in the age of artificial intelligence. Code-named Project OT — short for Organization Transformation — the plan envisioned an “AI native” future for the owner of Facebook and Instagram. AI would take over much of the daily work performed by thousands of human employees. Virtual workers would be overseen inside Meta by smaller, “talent-dense” cadres of human staffers, according to one internal planning document reviewed by Reuters and three people familiar with the project.

In scenario-planning exercises, two of these people said, executives explored slashing the size of many teams across Meta by as much as 60%. Some employees would be offered roles in new units, while others would be laid off as part of a culling that one human-resources executive projected would be as big as or bigger than the company’s cuts of around 25% three years ago, according to another internal document. The restructuring would be carried out in two “waves,” beginning with a first purge in May and followed by another shake-up in November, internal planning documents seen by Reuters showed. Layoffs would be supplemented with the closing of open positions and pushing people out who Meta believed were poor performers. These and other details of the plan, including the scale of the restructuring, haven’t been previously reported. AI would take over much of the daily work performed by thousands of human employees. Virtual workers would be overseen inside Meta by smaller, “talent-dense” cadres of human staffers.

But on the night of May 19, just hours before the first layoff wave, Zuckerberg blinked. Meta laid off 10% of its employees the next day, but it called off planning for the November cuts, according to one internal document reviewed by Reuters. By then, Meta employees were in open revolt, convinced that the company’s AI transformation initiatives were partly aimed at replacing them. Internal data was also suggesting that autonomous AI “agent” technology at the heart of the strategy was failing to deliver hoped-for productivity gains. Some investors were questioning what Meta had to show for its gargantuan spending on AI. This article reveals for the first time the rapid pace of the cuts Meta was considering, the thinking behind the plans and how they quickly unraveled. Based on scores of internal documents, posts and recordings reviewed by Reuters, as well as conversations with more than 20 people with knowledge of Meta’s inner workings, the reporting shows how the social-media giant attempted to position itself at the forefront of an AI-driven workplace overhaul, only to stumble in the execution.

As expected

By MpVpRb • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Exciting new (immature) tech is introduced.
Hypemongers and lying salesweasels make exaggerated claims.
Clueless managers force it to be widely implemented, even though workers are skeptical.
Chaos ensues.

Does Zuck know how to do anything?

By JoeyRox • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
I mean, anything other than monetizing the privacy of children? Every initiative he’s tried since has been a disaster. Good thing there’s lots of money in selling out the souls of children otherwise the company would be broke at this point.

Re:It reminds me of John Henry

By gtall • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

“Long-term if the technology works out for the Epstein class they will replace everyone except a handful of engineers and a handful of thugs to keep the engineers in line. There’s a well understood process for doing that used by guys like Vladimir Putin and Kim jong-un. It’s a more advanced version of feudalism. "

It is what is known an Technocracy back in 1930s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy). The argument was that Democracy was failing and it was failing because people were stupid. What the followers claimed was needed was technocrats who would take over governance and make all the decisions because they were smart and regular folks were dumb. At least in the U.S., FDR came along and wiped the slate clean of those yokels.

Today, we have Silicon Valley and its goomers (Ray Kurzweil, Marc Andreessen, Elmo, Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, etc.) arguing the same thing. The outgoing face is the “Singularity” where they’ve married Technocracy with their fevered dream of living forever in silicon, regardless of how they must trash the planet to get there.

And el Bunko is speeding them on their journey. Jettisoning immigrants (legal or illegal) is already hollowing out the tax base because we no longer tax capital. We tax people. Less people, less taxes. Politico has a cover story about how SS is headed for a 20+% haircut for the blue-haired and that no Republican will do a damn thing about it because their dumbass belief that taxing the wealthy and capital in general kills jobs. We’ve been lowering taxes on the wealthy and capital since Reagan. Do we have a Workers’ Paradise yet? Are we fucking tired of winning yet?

The Technocracy dimbulbs don’t care about the regular proles; The Technocracy advocates are merely the technoweenie moral equivalents of el Bunko. They aim to remove regular folks from voting their representatives, much like el Bunko. They figure they will be the ones making ALL the decisions. So they are essentially Fascists, and we should treat them accordingly.

The rest of your post is spot on. The Epstein class and the Silicon Valley goomers have every intention of replacing Democracy with their demented vision. It is as though Nazi Germany never happened for these bastards.

Re: Meta is a Nazi company.

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Facebook was founded to gather information about women to make it easier to trick them into having sex. So, yeah, kinda? The mission is abuse, but that tracks.

WTF ever happened to pilot programs?!

By the_skywise • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

It’s like all of corporate America and industry is in “Bet the farm mode”. Hey, let’s radically shift the entire company’s structure and hierarchy in a year based on an interview I saw another CEO give on YouTube last week.

I can sort of explain this away for non-tech companies like media companies but tech companies themselves should have a basic understanding of engineering principles (or one would think). Select a team or form a team with the dev principles you want and run them for a few months and see what happens. Then use what they learned to extrapolate across the whole company. But this kind of logic is something you’d find with cargo cultists…

More Than 100 Water Systems Were Hit In July Cyberattacks

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CISA says more than 100 internet-exposed U.S. water and wastewater systems were targeted in July, often through programmable logic controllers connected directly to cellular modems. “That’s the first time the feds have put a number on the digital intrusions, but they have yet to attribute the campaign, widely suspected to be linked to Iran, to a particular group,” reports The Register. From the report:
Suspected Iranian attackers targeted water and wastewater facilities across at least a dozen states in July, including internet-exposed PLCs. While neither federal nor state officials have identified all 12, we know that the cyberattacks occurred at mostly small, rural utilities in Minnesota, Michigan, Georgia, South Dakota, and New Jersey. “This is very serious. What stands out isn’t any single incident. It’s the scale,” Matt Hartman, chief strategy officer at the Merlin Group and CISA’s former acting head of cyber, told The Register.

“More than 100 water systems with internet-exposed assets were hit in a single month, which points to a systemic vulnerability across the sector, not a run of isolated, unlucky targets,” Hartman said. “Much of this infrastructure runs on operational technology that was built for closed, physical environments. It was never designed with the assumption that it would be reachable from the open internet.”

John Gallagher, VP at Viakoo, an OT and IoT cybersecurity provider, told us that while 100 systems represent a small fraction - only about 0.5 percent - of water utilities in the US, the “real threat is that these are test runs for a larger-scale attack.” While the 100-plus water incidents occurred in July, just last week five US federal agencies warned that attackers are using AI-generated exploitation scripts to break into internet-exposed Siemens S7 Series PLCs at water, manufacturing, energy, and other critical facilities.

“This appears to be a continuation of the same suite of activity we suspect is affiliated with Iran targeting PLCs,” Halcyon Ransomware Research Center SVP Cynthia Kaiser told The Register a week ago. “Iran-affiliated actors and adversaries are actively targeting a wide swath of operational technology because these PLCs underpin essential health, safety, and critical infrastructure across society,” Kaiser, a former FBI cyber division deputy assistant director, added.
CISA urges organizations to keep PLCs off the public internet, route remote access through VPNs or gateways, replace default passwords, enable stronger authentication, and restrict access to allowlisted IP addresses from trusted OT systems.

Re:Crappy IT security has consequences

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

And that is exactly why we need regulation and liability, preferably liability with a personal component. When anybody is doing critical infrastructure without IT security expertise involved and they find themselves fined a significant part of their salary, things will change.

And stop the utterly idiotic “the operators cannot afford it” claim. Can they afford to get hacked and their infrastructure taken over and damaged? No? Then they can afford IT Security. It is not even hard or expensive. We are talking a day of consulting and taking some template known-secure architecture with VPN links and the like. But you have to do it. Ignoring the problem or claiming you cannot do it will only do one thing: It will make your problem much worse and much more expensive.

Suspected Iranians

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Suspected Iranian attackers targeted water and wastewater facilities across at least a dozen states in July

Code for, “we don’t know who it was, but calling them a state actor will distract from our poor security.”

Re: Crappy IT security has consequences

By fortfive • Score: 4, Informative Thread

While you’re not wrong in an ideal sense, consider the targets in this case: small town public utilities. I’m sure some are stupid or uncaring, but many probably want good security but can’t afford it.

As to why public facing network connections, in a water or sewer system there are many distant sensors and actuators where it is impractical or even functionally impossible to string a wire for a closed intranet. They could maybe use a closed wireless setup but see funding problems i already identified.

old news, and Project 2025

By clovis • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Old news. We heard all this back in the 20th century.

1998,
  LOpht testifies before Congress
https://commdocs.house.gov/com…

Clinton weighs in to protect us from all this in 1998
https://clintonwhitehouse5.arc…

and countless other incidents

And now we have DOGE eviscerating CISA because Project 2025.
https://www.darkreading.com/th…
https://www.americanprogress.o…

The problem with CISA is that cyber security measures previously taken have served to make Russia look bad and did nothing to prove Trump actually won in 2020.

We ran water systems before the internet

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

Water systems haven’t changed all that much since before the internet existed, let alone became popular. They still have broadly the same stages and generally the same things occur in them. There is literally no need for automation because it doesn’t take many people to run a water system and they need surprisingly little training. It’s a community college course! We implemented automation to reduce headcount, but if the automation systems are attacked and need work then that’s actually increasing labor costs. Now you need to hire an engineer to fix what you should have done right the first time.

On the other hand, automation isn’t even the problem, I only mention it to point out that these problems don’t have to exist at all. You could solve the problem by not having remote control, or by not using the internet for that (there are other options) and by using one-way links for monitoring. Then you can still do your monitoring through the cheap and ubiquitous internet, and only have to use other resources for control.

Putting control of these systems on the internet gets you almost nothing and exposes you to risks which are completely unnecessary and doing so hardly saves you any money as you could use another option for your control links and it doesn’t need to be high speed.

Radiation Link In Flight Attendant’s Breast Cancer, French Court Finds

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A French court has for the first time recognized cosmic radiation as a contributing occupational factor in a flight attendant’s breast cancer, alongside passive smoking and years of night work. The landmark ruling could open the door to similar claims from other aircrew, as research continues to link long-term high-altitude flying with elevated exposure to radiation-related cancers. The BBC reports:
Sophie Lainault, a 59 year-old former stewardess on Air France, sought to have her cancer recognized as an occupational disease, brought on by conditions at work. This has now been confirmed in a landmark court ruling in the southwestern town of Bayonne, which said that cosmic radiation was one of three carcinogenic hazards arising from her profession. […] As stewardess and later purser on Air France airliners, Lainault clocked up 12,600 flight hours between 1989 and 2019. More than half of these were at night. Many long-distance high-altitude flights from Paris would have taken her near the North Pole, where exposure to radiation from space — strictly speaking particles from the sun and other stars — is the most intense.

A study this month at the Harvard Medical School in the US found that flight attendants and pilots had the highest level of radiation-related cancer deaths among more than 500 different professions. In all, about 6.9% of deaths among flight attendants and 6.7% of deaths among pilots were from radiation-related cancers, according to the analysis. These proportions were higher than for other professions including nuclear technologists, who are routinely exposed to radiation from non-cosmic sources yet placed 12th on the list, the authors said.
“In France the link between breast cancer and certain hazards has been established for a number of professions, such as nurses … but this is the first time for an air-hostess,” said Lainault’s lawyer Elisabeth Leroux.

Re:How about lining the planes?

By T34L • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Meaningfully shielding entire (or I guess at least the upper half of) airplane would also make em so much heavier that they’d inevitably end up slower (particularly in climb), which’d in turn mean you’d spend longer time exposed to the radiation and eat into the benefit and further make the boondoggle even more expensive. You’re also wasting money on shielding the whole human when much our bodies are pretty resistant. A really high value one is shielding the pelvis because you’re protecting both the gonads (cancer risk, also fucked babies) as well as a big bulk of bone marrow (cacer risk as well as weakened in function). Titties are like, the one other spot that might be worth it at these long term exposures because, again, generally high cancer risk that apparently multiplies with these long term exposures.

Also frequent business flyers should just bring their own shielding imo.

Re:I blame Russia

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Thinking that flying over the north pole twice is in any way changing your life expectancy even if you don’t have latent blood cancer is a failure of the education system and nothing to do with radiation.

This education problem is corroborated by the fact you think people don’t fly over Russia because of some war, whereas in reality you don’t fly over Russia because most of the world recognises the earth isn’t flat, and a trans polar route is often the fastest and cheapest way to get across the northern hemisphere. In fact most airlines still fly over Russia when it makes sense to do so, including several from Europe. This is doubly silly once you realise that a shitton of Asian flights fly over the pole *AND* through Russia.

By the way you’re not even remotely close to getting a CT scan. You’re *TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE* off. The polar route Frankfurt to San-Francisco will dose you around 110uSv worst case scenario, quite often considerably less. The lowest dose lung screen from a CT scan is 1,500uSv, and a cardiac CT around 21,000uSv (the latter two are normally quoted in mSv to reflect the difference in order of magnitude (maybe you misread the unit?)).

Re:Time for lead lined bras and skirts!

By mistergrumpy • Score: 4, Informative Thread
Magnetic shielding has limited benefit in the atmosphere. Much of the dose at flying altitude is from secondary particles produced by cosmic ray air showers ( from cosmic rays that interacted with the atmosphere above the plane). Some of those secondaries are charged and could be magnetically deflected, but there are plenty of gammas and neutrons too. In space, a magnetic shield is a great idea.

Re:maybe it was…

By AmiMoJo • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

The way it works in Europe is that the employer has a legal responsibility to identify things that can harm employees, and take reasonable steps to mitigate them. The three things identified in the lawsuit - passive smoking, night shifts, and cosmic radiation - have all been known to cause cancer for a very long time.

They stopped the smoking in 2000. The night shifts continued, and they didn’t install any radiation shielding in the aircraft. They also knew that going over the poles increased the dose their staff were getting, and didn’t make much effort to at least rotate them onto different flights.

Re:How about lining the planes?

By burtosis • Score: 4, Interesting Thread
The highest radiation exposure takes place when the plane flies near magnetic north where there is less protection from the field and where charged particles are funneled, at high altitude where there isn’t atmosphere to act as a shield, and during solar storms where massive amounts of extra charged particles are being hurled at the earth. Planes just fly through the worst case scenarios instead of simply increasing the cost and time by diverting around them which actually would reduce exposure and with no shielding and no equipment needed. Further, actually having at least one dosimeter on board when they are so cheap, light, and compact would go a long way to actually showing what exposures happen, but that would simply create liabilities so it doesn’t happen.

Bill Gates Proposes Major Limits On AI Development

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN:
Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates argued on Wednesday that artificial intelligence needs significant limits or else the harm to humans will outweigh any potential good. “AI will either be the greatest equalizer ever invented, or the worst source of injustice,” he said in a 6,000-word essay, entitled “The turbulent AI era is here. The choices we make now are critical.” […] “Even under the best circumstances, the transition to this new AI era will be one of the most turbulent times in human history,” he said, adding that “I don’t see evidence that leaders, experts, and communities are confronting the challenges adequately. There is no plan to ease the entry into the AI era.” AI can provide great benefits in field like agriculture and medicine, he argued, such as breakthroughs in preventing and treating diseases. But he also noted that the transition carries big risks, like widespread unemployment, harming the educational and social development of children, or making it easier for criminals and bad actors — or AI itself — to cause deliberate harm.

“As the models become more powerful, they could begin to act against our interests and we could lose control,” he warned. These significant risks must be controlled quickly, Gates said. “If someone had a credible plan for slowing down AI advances globally, I would likely support it,” he wrote. “However, I don’t think that’s going to happen. The geopolitical and economic incentives are pushing too hard to go full speed ahead.” In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper that will air on Wednesday evening, Gates said AI models have gotten dramatically more powerful at a rate faster than he expected. “They’re now capable of causing cyberattack risk, bioterrorism risk, psychosocial risk,” he said. “I have to say I’m kind of shocked that the exact criteria that we review these models with, and the actions we take to minimize the harms, are really completely missing.”

In his essay, Gates proposed taxing AI or robots the way you would pay a human employee’s payroll tax in order to slow the shift away from using human labor. He also wants to set aside some work to be done by humans only. “My message to leaders is: You have a chance to act now, before unemployment rises sharply, communities are hurting, and public trust has eroded,” he said. “You can make sure AI benefits everyone. And you can work with other governments to meet this national and global challenge.”

$$‘s and FOMO

By high_rolla • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Sounds great in theory, unfortunately I fear that greed and FOMO will trump any effort to put boundaries in place.

Hopefully the bubble bursts before we get to this point and the trough of disillusionment slows things down a bit, giving us a chance to catch up.

Re:WTF

By ClickOnThis • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

AI can’t take anyone’s job.

I’ll see your “WTF” and raise you a *facepalm*. AI already has taken jobs, including customer service (support calls and online chats), writing and editing, and entry-level coding.

Increasing production has never in history resulted in job loss.

It has when the increased production is due to transformative new technologies that can perform a human’s job faster and better. Like, oh say, AI.

Theoretically, ROBOTS can cause job loss. But even that is dumb to over-regulate at this early stage. Robots need at least 20 years of advancement before they start replacing human jobs.

We don’t need to wait 20 years for that. Robots alreay have caused job-loss in industries like manufacturing, for example.

Tilling the ground for future moat-building

By Cyberpunk Reality • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

This is just stage setting for moats to protect big, established players down the road.

Your cheap, local, open (and/or foreign) AI might be a dangerous threat to all humanity! Bill Gates says that you cannot in good conscience be allowed to own or operate such things, or at the very least there must be a level of regulation and taxation that is ruinous on the would-be small scale AI operator. Only the wise and experienced OpenAI and its equivalents - which by sheer coincidence have deep connections to Microsoft and Gates fellow billionaires - can be trusted to provide society with the massive benefits of AI. In return for government subsidies and a generous private profit of course. But don’t worry! In the spirit of philanthropy, Gates will promise that some of the benefits of AI will trickle down to the masses.

Re:I propose Bill Gates learns about boundaries

By martin-boundary • Score: 5, Funny Thread
He’s not involved in AI. Why should he have an opinion on it? Only slashdotters should have an opinion on AI.

Wrong link

By votsalo • Score: 3 Thread

The summary links to the wrong place on Gates’ blog. Here is the correct one. But the pages are all mixed together so that as you scroll down you get to a different topic and the url changes.

A good limit on AI development would be to allow it to grow only with renewable power, so that it does not accelerate climate change. If you scroll down Gates blog, you’ll see his thoughts on climate change. But there is no mention of it in “The choices we make about AI” essays. As if the world’s problems are unrelated to each other.

OpenAI Releases Its Official Report On the Hugging Face Breach

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TechCrunch reports that OpenAI released its official report Wednesday on the Hugging Face breach, “offering the clearest picture yet of how an unusual chain of events allowed an AI model to escape its testing environment and triggered a sprawling cybersecurity incident.” The AI company says the breach began when an unreleased cyber model, tested without normal production safeguards, encountered an impossible task and chained together previously unknown exploits to escape its environment and compromise systems at OpenAI, Hugging Face, and other vendors. “This incident reflects misaligned behavior in an outlier scenario involving a rare and unexpected confluence of events: the presence of impossible tasks in the ExploitGym evaluation, model persistence over long task horizons, and messages to peer models that caused those models to deviate from their goal,” the report reads. From the report:
Many of the details in OpenAI’s report were previously made public in a Black Hat presentation on August 6, but OpenAI’s official report gives a more thorough accounting of the incident, including more detail on the testing that initiated it. The report also gives critical new detail into how OpenAI aims to prevent future incidents, including chain-of-thought monitoring and a more advanced system for halting rogue agents.” METR and Redwood Research also conducted third-party assessments of the models’ behavior during the incident; both groups are planning to publish their own reports on the incident on it.

In broad strokes, the report describes how an OpenAI model was presented with an unsolvable problem in testing and proceeded to chain together previously undiscovered exploits in order to bypass security measures and complete its task. The model initially compromised the Artifactory package management tool in order to gain access to the internet, then compromised various systems across OpenAI, Hugging Face, and other vendors.

The report gives critical new details about the models that carried out the breach. The primary model was from the same family as OpenAI’s forthcoming Astra model, although the report emphasizes that it was “a distinct model with different post-training, where much of a model’s behavior is shaped.” Because OpenAI was testing the model’s capabilities, it was also unrestrained by the normal classifiers meant to prevent models from compromising digital infrastructure. “OpenAI estimates maximal cyber capabilities by running this evaluation without the production classifiers intended to prevent models from pursuing high-risk cyber activity,” the report explains. “These evaluations are important so that OpenAI can measure models’ underlying capabilities and design appropriate safeguards.”
OpenAI says it is adding 24/7 escalation, stronger containment tools, and more chain-of-thought monitoring, which it claims would have flagged the activity more than a day before Hugging Face was breached.

I would wait for Alabama to get back on this

By nikkipolya • Score: 4, Funny Thread

I would rather wait to hear what the state of Alabama has to say on this. Cannot depend on OpenAI’s version.

https://yro.slashdot.org/story…

Re:I would wait for Alabama to get back on this

By Powercntrl • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Everything about this feels like a bad sci-fi story hallucinated up by AI. Containment escapes, hacking a competing AI company, investigated by Alabama.

Ugh. This timeline is so broken.

Of course try to downplay it

By SoftwareArtist • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

It sure sounds like they’re trying to downplay it: “an outlier scenario”, “a rare and unexpected confluence of events”. To make you think this was something unusual that’s not likely to happen again. But what are those rare events? “the presence of impossible tasks”. You think it’s going to be rare for models to get impossible tasks? Expect it to happen constantly. “model persistence over long task horizons.” That’s the whole point of these models, that you can give them a task and they keep working on it for a long time! “messages to peer models.” They did that spontaneously. Since they did it this time, it’s likely to happen frequently.

This sounds more like a test of how it behaves in a very typical situation.

And of course they emphasize all they things they’ve already done to prevent it from happening again, but with little evidence that they’ll be effective.

It was possible due to a lack of any security

By zephvark • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
The AI was in an environment where it was given access to the Internet, which should not have happened in the first place. The article suggests that they think the problem was only that the AI wasn’t safeguarding itself well enough, which they’re going to attempt to fix by giving it new base instructions. In other words, they’re still going to rely on the AI to do something it obviously can’t, and are going to leave the original security holes in place.

Read all the details

By JoshuaZ • Score: 3, Informative Thread
Unfortunately, there’s a lot of people (including some here on Slashdot) who have tried to argue that these instances of AIs breaching their containment have been deliberate hype by the AI companies. The level of detail in this instance and the fact that METR and others have looked at this should make it clear that’s not what is going on. Taken together with the fact that another incident occurred with Kimi-3, an open-weight model, which also did something similar but not as extreme when it was tested by a security group https://www.wired.com/story/moonshot-kimi-k3-ai-model-escape-sandbox/ which had no incentive to exaggerate, it should be clear that this is a real problem with these models. At this point, all models should be tested in air-gapped systems. Unfortunately,, it doesn’t look like OpenAI or Anthropic or anyone else is taking that sort of step. I suspect we’re going to keep having similar problems until an AI model goes seriously off the rails in a way which causes massive amounts of damage and/or kills someone. I’m really hoping we don’t need a wake-up call with a model somehow crashing an airplane or something of a similar nature in order to accomplish some goal.

China’s Moonshot In Talks With Microsoft, Amazon, Google Over K3 Revenue Sharing

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Longtime Slashdot reader schwit1 shares a report from Reuters:
China’s Moonshot AI is negotiating revenue-sharing agreements with Microsoft, Amazon, and Alphabet’s Google, that would allow the U.S. cloud giants to host its blockbuster Kimi K3 model, three people familiar with the talks said. Any deal could mark the first big revenue-sharing pact between a Chinese AI firm and a major U.S. cloud company. The discussions highlight how China’s leading AI models, often far cheaper than Western offerings, are gaining traction in the U.S., despite national security concerns in Washington that have led to bans on exports of AI chips to China. They are also taking place despite critical comments about Moonshot from senior U.S. officials.

IPO-bound Moonshot is seeking up to a 30% share of revenue generated from K3-related services on Microsoft’s Azure, Amazon Web Services and Google Cloud, according to the sources who declined to be identified because the discussions are private. That would be in line with terms that sources have said the startup has outlined for major customers using the open-weight model. Moonshot has come under fire from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent who said last month that he might add it to a trade blacklist. U.S. officials have accused the Beijing-based company of stealing from Anthropic’s most sophisticated model, Fable, to help create Kimi K3 and illegally acquiring Nvidia chips.

Rat knot

By Elektroschock • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I looked it up in wikipedia, so in English it is the same as in my native tongue. There is this strange nature phenonemon of the rat king, mutliple rats with intertwined tails.

So in my view these relations and circular businesses of the AI companies, and particularly this article about the chinese model, very much remind me of a rat king. A sure way in the prospect of an AI financial market crash that they will all die together.

What will el Bunko do?

By gtall • Score: 3 Thread

He will do what he always does, demand tribute from the U.S. companies hosting K3 models in exchange for not issuing more silly Executive Orders claiming he’s protecting America. If he really wanted to protect America, he’d abdicate the throne and go decompose in Mar-A-Loco.

Apple Maps Now Has Ads

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Apple has begun rolling out ads in Apple Maps, with sponsored businesses appearing at the top of search results and in the “suggested places” section for users in the U.S. and Canada. Apple says the ads can be based on approximate location, search terms, or the area of the map being viewed, but are not tied to users’ Apple Accounts and personal data remains on-device. 9to5Mac reports:
Ads appear just like every other business listing, except they have a small blue badge that says ‘Ad.’ You can see examples of ads [embedded in the article]. Like Apple’s ads policy with other services, the company touts user privacy protections for ads in Maps. Per Apple Newsroom: “Ads on Maps builds on Apple’s broader privacy-first approach to advertising, and maintains the same privacy protections Maps users enjoy today. A user’s location and the ads they see and interact with in Maps are not associated with a user’s Apple Account. Personal data stays on a user’s device, is not collected or stored by Apple, and is not shared with third parties.”

Well looky here

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Funny Thread

Looks like you smugsters are the product after all.

Re:I thought Apple

By taustin • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

You sweet, summer child.

This will help lower the price of the product.

By Fly Swatter • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Am I right?

Re:I thought Apple

By Powercntrl • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Google Maps is *not* putting ads into search results so at least for now Apple is doing worse.

Actually…

Not ethics

By abulafia • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Like most companies, Apple has been ethical when it suited their interests. There’s always been a slimy side there - Jobs cheated Woz before Apple even existed.

No, What Apple lost was taste.

They used to profit from producing products they’d want to use. Now they make profit-maximizing devices.

I’d argue that the OSes are starting to suffer, too. I mean, bugs are up again, but that’s always been cyclic. But I feel like they’re losing coherence, too. And a lot of subsystems more technical users like are rotting or being made much more difficult to work with (Gatekeeper and shell scripts, for instance). (I also find it ugly now, but that’s subjective and it has has ugly iterations before, too.)

Anyway, yeah, Apple will make a ton of money for a long time to come. But I’m pretty sure it is losing its sense of taste. It might make the most popular and most profitable phone, but they aren’t trying to make the phone people want anymore.