the unofficial Slashdot digest for 2019-Feb-11 today archive


  1. FDA Warns Supplement Makers To Stop Touting Cures For Diseases and Cancer
  2. Android Phones Can Be Hacked Remotely By Viewing Malicious PNG Image
  3. Texas Lawmaker Wants To Ban Mobile Throttling In Disaster Areas
  4. Google Docs Gets an API For Task Automation
  5. Amazon Is Buying Mesh Router Company Eero
  6. Microsoft Teases HoloLens 2
  7. Amy Klobuchar Calls For Net Neutrality 'Guarantee' In 2020 Presidential Announcement
  8. Doomsday Docker Security Hole Uncovered
  9. Microsoft: 70 Percent of All Security Bugs Are Memory Safety Issues
  10. Tobacco Use is Soaring Among US Kids, Driven By E-cigarettes
  11. Software Engineer Loses Life Savings in Quadriga Imbroglio
  12. Young People Who Play Video Games Have Higher Moral Reasoning Skills
  13. Hawaii Lawmakers Chewing on Ban of Plastic Utensils, Bottles and Food Containers
  14. It's the Real World -- With Google Maps Layered on Top
  15. Developer Releases Windows 95 OS as an App For Windows 10, macOS and Linux
  16. Mars One is Dead
  17. Trump Administration Unveils Order To Prioritize and Promote AI
  18. Russia To Disconnect From the Internet as Part of a Planned Test
  19. Wayward Satellites Test Einstein's Theory of General Relativity
  20. New Images of the Distant Ultima Thule Object Have Surprised Scientists
  21. New Long-Spined Dinosaur With 'Mohawk of Large Spikes' Discovered In Patagonia
  22. Insects Could Vanish Within a Century At Current Rate of Decline, Says Global Review

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FDA Warns Supplement Makers To Stop Touting Cures For Diseases and Cancer

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times: The Food and Drug Administration on Monday warned 12 sellers of dietary supplements to stop claiming their products can cure diseases ranging from Alzheimer's to cancer to diabetes. At the same time, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the agency's commissioner, suggested that Congress strengthen the F.D.A.'s authority over an estimated $40 billion industry, which sells as many as 80,000 kinds of powders and pills with little federal scrutiny. These products range from benign substances like vitamin C or fish oil to more risky mineral, herbal and botanical concoctions that can be fatal.

"People haven't wanted to touch this framework or address this space in, really, decades, and I think it's time we do it," Dr. Gottlieb said in an interview. He is particularly concerned about supplements that purport to cure diseases for which consumers should seek medical attention. "We know there are effective therapies that can help patients with Alzheimer's," he said. "But unproven supplements that claim to treat the disease but offer no benefits can prevent patients from seeking otherwise effective care." The companies included TEK Naturals, Pure Nootropics and Sovereign Laboratories. In a letter to TEK Naturals, the F.D.A. and the Federal Trade Commission chastised the company for marketing Mind Ignite as a product "clinically shown to help diseases of the brain such as Alzheimer's and even dementia."

Re:But some supplements do work

By sjames • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Exactly this. There are also a few supplements that contain exactly the same thing as pharmaceuticals that cost 1 or 2 orders of magnitude more. A good doctor will direct you to take the readily available OTC supplement instead.

For example, extended release Niacin. $10 over the counter vs $230 for the same damned thing as prescription Niaspan.

It's no wonder that people legitimately wonder when the FDA rumbles about killing off suppliments.

In many cases, it's fair enough that the FDA insists no medical claims be made, but in other cases, if doctors are actually recommending the stuff to treat specific medical conditions, is it really fair to insist that they not say so on the bottle?

If any of the supplements don't contain what they claim or if they have harmful contaminants, by all means take action against the manufacturer. If it is something known to actually be dangerous, by all means require a warning or if it is REALLY dangerous, more extreme action. But for the latter, the determination must be reasonable. If it's not more harmful than things routinely sold OTC, leave it alone or just require the warning.


By Opportunist • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

He singlehandedly made America stupid? That's a feat, all the religions combined couldn't accomplish that, and not for a lack of trying.

Re:yes, let's leave the touting for fake cures

By reboot246 • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
Nearly all prescription medicine is poison in some way. It all depends on the dosage. We've gotten to the point where doctors are prescribing medicine to counteract the side-effects of the first prescription!

I had an issue with statins. First, they weren't needed at all. My doctor was in a rush to write something even though my cholesterol wasn't high enough to warrant writing a prescription. Then, after taking the damned stuff for about six months, my muscles were hurting so bad that I to be taken off of them. Hey doc, isn't my heart a muscle, too? Can you say, "First, do no harm"? Needless to say I changed doctors to one who actually cares about his patients.

They'll tell you that muscle pain is a rare side-effect of taking statins. Don't believe it. Everybody I've ever known who took them has had muscle pain. And they're still being prescribed and sold every day! I'll believe all the hoopla about supplements when they get serious about taking statins off the market, too.

My cholesterol is perfectly normal now. A combination of exercise and eating right has been the RIGHT medicine.

Re:false advertising...

By JasterBobaMereel • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

In the UK if you claim to cure a disease then you are a medicine and have to regulated

If you claim to cure cancer then this is a special case ... your product is illegal and you will be shut down and fined

Re:false advertising...

By dryeo • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Try asking your doctor about drinking a cup of willow bark tea each morning with your high blood pressure and back aches. He'll tell you it works, suggest a baby Asprin instead, it could go either way since they are the same thing.

Actually they're only similar as the Willow contains Salicin which is metabolized into salicylic acid whereas Aspirin contains acetylsalicylic acid. The salicyclic acid is much harder on the stomach then the acetylsalicylic acid though they do have basically the same medical qualities.

Salicylic acid was also isolated from the herb meadowsweet (Filipendula ulmaria, formerly classified as Spiraea ulmaria) by German researchers in 1839.[33] While their extract was somewhat effective, it also caused digestive problems such as gastric irritation, bleeding, diarrhea and even death when consumed in high doses.

Android Phones Can Be Hacked Remotely By Viewing Malicious PNG Image

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An innocent-looking image -- sent either via the internet or text -- could open your Android phone up to hacking. "While this certainly doesn't apply to all images, Google discovered that a maliciously crafted PNG image could be used to hijack a wide variety of Androids -- those running Android Nougat (7.0), Oreo (8.0), and even the latest Android OS Pie (9.0)," reports CSO Online. From the report: The latest bulletin lists 42 vulnerabilities in total -- 11 of which are rated as critical. The most severe critical flaw is in Framework; it "could enable a remote attacker using a specially crafted PNG file to execute arbitrary code within the context of a privileged process." Although Google had no report of the security flaws being actively exploited, it remains to be seen if and how long it will take before attackers use the flaw for real-world attacks. Android owners were urged to patch as soon as security updates becomes available. But let's get real: Even if your Android still receives security updates, there's no telling how long it will be (weeks or months) before manufacturers and carriers get it together to push out the patches.

PNG needs JavaScript internally.

By aberglas • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Obviously we need complex multimedia formats that are decoded by C code complete with buffer overflows all running in Kernal mode.

But what would be even better is if the PNG could contain JavaScript inside it. Why limit the output to just a few algorithms? With JavaScript running actually inside the PNG much greater compression could be achieved for many applications. More importantly, a whole new plethora of animation techniques could be developed.

Indeed, if that JavaScript within the PNG was used to implement a Virtual Machine, a whole sub operating system could run inside that image. Just think of the possibilities!

We need more, Lots more. Of stuff.

Re:In before smug Apple fans

By _merlin • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

If, as the summary suggests, this allows arbitrary code to run with elevated permissions simply by viewing a PNG image, then this could be exploited to install malware that runs as root with access to all the data on your device, all your accounts, ability to modify any app, etc. That's pretty fucked up. (Yeah I know summaries can be misleading, but I have a relatively low UID so I've been conditioned over years to never RTFA.)

Re:Baking roms for each device needs to be outlawe

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The x86 - or rather, the IBM-compatible - world is vastly different to the ARM world when it comes to system design. The entire family tree of x86-derived machines have gravitated towards open, or at least easily-licensed and inter-operable, hardware standards over the decades. Manufacturers want to keep their hardware reasonably compatible with everyone else, lest they be shut out of the market for being too 'niche'.

ARM, on the other hand, is almost the exact opposite. An ARM computer is often a custom-built hodge-podge of licensed hardware modules fitted around whatever ARM core the manufacturer licensed and etched onto silicon. Sound, graphics, memory. and other functions are not plug-and-play replaceable add-ons, but a custom chipset that the system designer picked out and configured. These bespoke system configurations will also have to contend with limitations on driver support and possibly the need to hand-configure settings.

Google has tried to correct this, and pull manufacturers to a more standardized system that would let Google handle a lot of the hard work, but this was never the norm in the embedded space.

Sounds like a rapper's stage name

By jfdavis668 • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
Malicious PNG

Re:Baking roms for each device needs to be outlawe

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
All of those ARM chips (in Android) use GCC, an open compiler, so it isn't the chip that's causing problems. Most of the drivers are all open-sourced (the kernels is GPL, so they more-or-less have to), so it's not the hardware that's a problem.

The main problem is locked boot-loaders. If you can't install a custom ROM on a phone, that's probably the reason.

Texas Lawmaker Wants To Ban Mobile Throttling In Disaster Areas

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Bobby Guerra, a Democratic member of the Republican-controlled Texas House of Representatives, filed a bill last week that would prohibit wireless carriers from throttling mobile internet service in disaster areas. "A mobile Internet service provider may not impair or degrade lawful mobile Internet service access in an area subject to a declared state of disaster," the bill says. If passed, it would take effect on September 1, 2019. Ars Technica reports: The bill, reported by NPR affiliate KUT, appears to be a response to Verizon's throttling of an "unlimited" data plan used by Santa Clara County firefighters during a wildfire response in California last year. But Guerra's bill would prohibit throttling in disaster areas of any customer, not just public safety officials. Wireless carriers often sell plans with a set amount of high-speed data and then throttle speeds after a customer has passed the high-speed data limit. Even with so-called "unlimited" plans, carriers reserve the right to throttle speeds once customers use a certain amount of data each month.

Despite the Verizon/Santa Clara incident, Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai has taken no action to prevent further incidents of throttling during emergencies. Pai's repeal of Obama-era net neutrality rules allows throttling as long as the carrier discloses it, and the commission is trying to prevent states from imposing their own net neutrality rules.


By WhiplashII • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

They should pass a law that all bandwidth must double during an emergency!


By ShanghaiBill • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

How much extra is it going to cause the greedy carriers to remove the caps for a couple of days?

The monetary cost is not the issue. Congestion is. A disaster area is the place where caps are most justified. When disasters strike, there is often a surge of network traffic, beyond the normal level the infrastructure is designed to handle. The caps are needed to keep bandwidth available for emergency personnel.

Why throttling?

By duke_cheetah2003 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I think law makers need to sit down with telcoms and the two need to work out why and when throttling is appropriate.

Especially in an emergency situation when EVERYONE is trying to use it, greedily, and without throttling, you just end in a situation where no one can use it at all.

So basically, understanding why throttling is taking place, before you start making laws about something you potentially have no f'ing clue about.

Very badly thought through

By gnasher719 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Here's the facts: We want emergency services to be able to communicate during an emergency, without restrictions. We want emergency service to pay just like everyone else. We don't want massive infrastructure that the end user pays for, and that is useless 99.9% of the time, except in emergencies.

So what telcos should do: Offer a plan exclusively to emergency services with the following rules: 1. They pay for their data and call allowance just like everyone else. 2. When they exceed their data allowance, for example due to an emergency, the bill for that is sorted out later, but they are NEVER capped and NEVER throttled and NEVER blocked. Also, they should get priority of networks are congested due to high traffic.

Of course that doesn't give a firefighter the right to watch videos all the time with a 500MB plan. They will not be capped, or slowed down, or blocked, but they will pay the bill.


By mysidia • Score: 4 • Thread

Congestion is. A disaster area is the place where caps are most justified.

No.... Nothing in the text of the bill really indicates carriers cannot manage congestion in fact the only restriction it gives is "service provider may not impair or degrade lawful mobile Internet service access in an area subject to a declared state of disaster" ----- So they can still manage their network, in fact they could still throttle to slightly lower top speeds which are not slow enough to constitute impairment. Failing to manage congestion in its own right can be considered impairing access through neglect. The issue is throttling after a certain monthly quota --- they can still utilize means of prioritizing the traffic of emergency services and those with lower total usage.

The throttling the carriers normally due is based on arbitrary monthly caps in the total amount of data used --- access is greatly impaired (throttled to a ridiculously slow speed) after reaching a monthly quota that has nothing to do with congestion or network management, because nothing stops 10000 people who have not used up their data allowance from coming on simultaneously and maxing out the local tower capacity.

Google Docs Gets an API For Task Automation

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Google today announced the general availability of a new API for Google Docs that will allow developers to automate many of the tasks that users typically do manually in the company's online office suite. The API has been in developer preview since last April's Google Cloud Next 2018 and is now available to all developers. As Google notes, the REST API was designed to help developers build workflow automation services for their users, build content management services and create documents in bulk. Using the API, developers can also set up processes that manipulate documents after the fact to update them, and the API also features the ability to insert, delete, move, merge and format text, insert inline images and work with lists, among other things.

The canonical use case here is invoicing, where you need to regularly create similar documents with ever-changing order numbers and line items based on information from third-party systems (or maybe even just a Google Sheet). Google also notes that the API's import/export abilities allow you to use Docs for internal content management systems.

... until two weeks later, when they casually ment

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

... until two weeks later, when they casually mention in a blog post somewhere that they have removed it.

Congratulations, Google

By Voyager529 • Score: 3 • Thread

This sounds like a "Macro" with more steps. Welcome to the 1980's.

Amazon Is Buying Mesh Router Company Eero

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Amazon has announced that it's acquiring Eero, the maker of mesh home routers. "Amazon says buying Eero will allow the company to 'help customers better connect smart home devices,'" reports The Verge. "It will certainly make Alexa-compatible gadgets easier to set up if Amazon also controls the router technology. Financial terms of the deal are not being disclosed." From the report: Eero kicked off a wave of "smart" mesh router setups designed to overcome the coverage issues and dead zones of traditional routers. Instead of a single router device, multiple access points are used to blanket an entire home or apartment with a strong Wi-Fi signal. The system works as advertised, and it's all controlled with an intuitive smartphone app. Google, Samsung, Linksys, Netgear, and other electronics companies have since followed Eero's lead and released their own mesh bundles.

It sounds as though the Eero brand will live on after the acquisition -- at least in the near term. "By joining the Amazon family, we're excited to learn from and work closely with a team that is defining the future of the home, accelerate our mission, and bring Eero systems to more customers around the globe," said Nick Weaver, Eero's co-founder and CEO. Amazon isn't saying much about its future plans for Eero; might we see an Alexa-enabled router? An Echo that doubles as a Wi-Fi access point sounds nice.
The report notes that Amazon will now have "more valuable data on consumers and advance Amazon's growing dominance of the smart home." Last year, Amazon acquired smart doorbell and camera maker Ring and bought Blink in 2017.

I tried eero, they sucked

By Balial • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I bought eero since I was excited to fix my hard-to-cable apartment problems. They advertised on their front page "never reboot your router again!".

When I got them they failed to work well, and cabling the back-haul led to even worse performance. When you log into the support system, the first suggestion is "reboot your eero".

Great work, guys. So I returned it and got Plume and it kicks way more arse.

FWIW, eero doesn't say any more that you'll never reboot your router again, but it's still the first item in the trouble shooting guide. I'm not sure I've ever had to reboot any Plume nodes.


By DontBeAMoran • Score: 3 • Thread

Apple no longer makes router and now Amazon is selling those.

What's next? AmazonOS?

So who makes a good mesh router

By bobstreo • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

for me to extend 2 or so neighbors networks into my house so I can cut all the cable bills.

I figure with 2 houses with 100MB if I could aggregate their connections, I would be pretty well off.

Microsoft Teases HoloLens 2

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"Microsoft is expected to announce the next generation HoloLens headset at an already announced event on February 24, and the company's doing a bit more to stoke the flames," reports TechCrunch. One of the key people behind the original HoloLens, Alex Kipman, tweeted a video showing "vague forms of chips and cables [that] take shape out of melted ice, rocks and air," reports TechCrunch. From the report: The original headset was ahead of the mixed reality wave, but now that AR is starting to catch on all over the industry, the timing could be right for a big second-generation launch. Reports have suggested a Qualcomm 850 chip and new Project Kinect Sensors. The headset is also said to be cheaper and smaller than its developer-focused predecessor, which could put Microsoft in prime position to push augmented reality forward.


By zlives • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

i for one am waiting for HL NT at the very least.

Could be big

By SuperKendall • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Having tried pretty much all of the VR and AR headsets, the one I thought had the most potential was actually the Hololens - only hampered by a really bad field of view limitation.

If they have improved on that a lot, I think a new Hololens could do really well, even if it's still expensive.

Remember an AR headset can do AR and VR, while a VR headset can only do VR...

Amy Klobuchar Calls For Net Neutrality 'Guarantee' In 2020 Presidential Announcement

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Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said she wanted to "guarantee" net neutrality for all Americans during her 2020 presidential campaign kickoff speech. "[T]he senator bringing it up in her announcement marked perhaps the most high-profile stage the issue has had in terms of recent presidential politics," reports The Daily Dot. From the report: The Minnesota senator brought up the issue among other technology platform goals, including privacy and cybersecurity. "Way too many politicians have their heads stuck in the sand when it comes to the digital revolution. 'Hey guys, it's not just coming. It's here.' If you don't know the difference between a hack and Slack, it's time to pull off the digital highway," she said. "What would I do as president? We need to put some digital rules of the road into law when it comes to people's privacy."

She added: "For too long the big tech companies have been telling you, don't worry, we've got your back," she said. "While your identities, in fact, are being stolen and your data is being mined. Our laws need to be as sophisticated as the people who are breaking them. We must revamp our nation's cybersecurity and guarantee net neutrality for all. And we need to end the digital divide by pledging to connect every household to the internet by 2022, and that means you, rural America."
Other Democrats seeking the 2020 nomination have shown support for net neutrality in the past. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) tweeted late last month about reports suggesting that telecom investments have not risen since the FCC's controversial repeal of net neutrality, calling the decision "another handout to big corporations & telecom giants."

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) also told a crowd in Iowa last month that she believed "in net neutrality the same way I believe everybody should have access to electricity," according to the Washington Post.

Re:Define what you mean

By Anubis IV • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The kind of Network Neutrality people do want - equal ability to access any location on the internet - we enjoy already

Tell that to the Madison River Communications customers who were blocked from using a competing VoIP service until the FCC stepped in. Or the Comcast customers who were blocked from using BitTorrent until the FCC stepped in. Or the Comcast customers whose service was throttled (i.e. less than equal access) when attempting to reach Netflix until Netflix caved and agreed to pay for a service that Comcast was already being compensated for (via subscription fees). Or even little developers like Panic Inc., who found themselves getting throttled by Comcast.

Ever since cable Internet was classified as an information service in the early 2000s, we've seen one bad actor after another cropping up (though Comcast is easily the worst) and it's been a constant battle to keep them in check. An FCC that regularly asserted and reasserted its authority to enforce neutrality—despite cable being classified as an information service—through both Bush's and Obama's administrations was our best line of defense. With Trump's FCC openly abdicating its authority and most US addresses lacking access to more than one cable/fiber broadband service, we have neither regulations nor market forces protecting us.

all you can do is fuck it up if you mess with it.

You seem to be under the incorrect assumption that the status quo is to NOT have neutrality. You couldn't be more wrong.

When dial-up was the king of the hill, we had neutrality because the Internet ran over POTS, all of which was classified as a telecommunications service thanks in large part to the AT&T breakup. When cable was classified as an information service in the early 2000s, the FCC issued statements making it clear that they intended to continue enforcing neutrality, despite the change in classification. When the enforceability of those documents was challenged in the late 2000s, the FCC rewrote them as rules so that they'd be enforceable. When those rules were challenged as being beyond the FCC's authority, the FCC reclassified cable as a telecommunications service, as per their authority. Again and again, net neutrality has been fought for and preserved for the last several decades, and the FCC has continued to do its best to enforce neutrality against bad actors who would try to abuse their special position between consumers and the outside world.

The FCC's 2017 decision to throw out all of their prior work isn't a restoration to how things were: it's a final step in a long war the cable industry has been waging to end the status quo we've enjoyed up to this point.

Re:How is this not dirt simple to comprehend

By TigerPlish • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Very simple: I would like to be able to pay some additional fee to designate traffic from any source of my choosing to be of higher priority than other traffic.

To put that in simpler terms, I want Netflix to stream as fast as possible to the possible detriment of random browsing or other update traffic from my house.

Umm.. no. That's not what Paid Prioritazion, in the contest of this pissing contest called Net Neturality is about.

What it is about is this: "Gee, Netflix, if you don't want your packets mysteriously chopped up and sent out at random you must pay me One Billion Dollars! Muahahah!"

It's not about YOU paying for YOUR traffic faster. It's about Amazon getting preferential treatment over Joes Internet Bait shop. Or Netflix getting "QoS'd" to hell because Comcast would rather push their streaming instead of Netflix. Unless, of course, Joe's Internet Bait Shop paying up some ridiculous fees on top of what they already pay their hoster. Ditto netflix.

None of this is for our (the comsumer's) benefit.

People are so misinformed on this subject it makes the head spin.

Re:How is this not dirt simple to comprehend

By sjames • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

That's never been on offer. What has been is that Crappee media inc. can pay your ISP to make sure Netflix never outperforms them on your internet connection. Does it still sound good.

It also means that your ISP can start dropping packets from Netflix and then you can pay them to allow it to perform the way it used to.

If you want to have fun....

By Trailer Trash • Score: 3 • Thread

Ask her what "net neutrality" actually means.

Re:How is this not dirt simple to comprehend

By Uberbah • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

That's quite an amount of umbrage - at your narrative being shown to be complete corporatist bullshit. One that ignores the very real history of ISP's blocking competing services, or extorting Netflix to pay up least they be throttled.

Doomsday Docker Security Hole Uncovered

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: One of the great security fears about containers is that an attacker could infect a container with a malicious program, which could escape and attack the host system. Well, we now have a security hole that could be used by such an attack: RunC container breakout, CVE-2019-5736. RunC is the underlying container runtime for Docker, Kubernetes, and other container-dependent programs. It's an open-source command-line tool for spawning and running containers. Docker originally created it. Today, it's an Open Container Initiative (OCI) specification. It's widely used. Chance are, if you're using containers, you're running them on runC.

According to Aleksa Sarai, a SUSE container senior software engineer and a runC maintainer, security researchers Adam Iwaniuk and Borys Popawski discovered a vulnerability, which "allows a malicious container to (with minimal user interaction) overwrite the host runc binary and thus gain root-level code execution on the host. The level of user interaction is being able to run any command (it doesn't matter if the command is not attacker-controlled) as root." To do this, an attacker has to place a malicious container within your system. But, this is not that difficult. Lazy sysadmins often use the first container that comes to hand without checking to see if the software within that container is what it purports to be.
Red Hat technical product manager for containers, Scott McCarty, warned: "The disclosure of a security flaw (CVE-2019-5736) in runc and docker illustrates a bad scenario for many IT administrators, managers, and CxOs. Containers represent a move back toward shared systems where applications from many different users all run on the same Linux host. Exploiting this vulnerability means that malicious code could potentially break containment, impacting not just a single container, but the entire container host, ultimately compromising the hundreds-to-thousands of other containers running on it. While there are very few incidents that could qualify as a doomsday scenario for enterprise IT, a cascading set of exploits affecting a wide range of interconnected production systems qualifies...and that's exactly what this vulnerability represents."

Re:IT guys

By forkfail • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Damnit, Jim, I'm a Docker, not a software engineer.

Wait, wut did I just say?


By ArchieBunker • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Dependencies got so convoluted that nobody could compile code from another project because it needed 100 obscure libraries. 10 of those libraries needed another handful of libraries, etc etc. Voila, problem solved.

container security

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Containers (the collection of Linux namespaces and cgroups) are not a strong enough security boundary to safely isolate untrusted code. They never have been, and anybody that told you otherwise is either lying or clueless. Containers are super convenient, and a great way to manage the deployment of your software, and you should use them -- Just not to protect mixed-trust workloads running on the same host from each other.

If you want to run code from sources that you don't trust, isolate it in a separate VM. If you want to use container-like workflows and orchestration systems to manage your VMs, use something like Kata Containers (


By crow • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

It's a cross between a chroot environment and a virtual machine. For most purposes, it is a virtual machine, but by using file system overlays, the overhead per VM is much lower; almost as low as running them all in the same environment.

That's the theory, anyway.

If you're running dozens or hundreds of web servers or something like that, it's probably a good solution. If you're only running a few, there's probably no reason not to just use real VMs. Of course, for many people it's not about what's the best fit, it's about using the tool you know.

Re:why Joyent exists

By DeVilla • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Solaris and the other UNIXes died for the same reason. They all provided roughly the same feature set in slightly incompatible ways. It made development, maintenance and administration unnecessarily difficult and error prone.

None of the vendors put sincere effort into fixing it. The GNU tools focus portability helped immensely with this. Free source tools ended up defining the only true portable standard. They gained features consistently that the others had and implemented them in ways that served the developers & user rather than an particular vendor. Eventually Linux and the FSF's tools became the best of breed UNIX without even being UNIX.

Docker is a mess because it was originally developed in a way that served the interests of Docker Inc. The single local name space of images, the poor default implement of a remote registry, the ability to only search images in dockerhub... It wasn't designed to support secure isolation. That was bolted on later and needs continual patching. There is a not-so-new love affair with BSD/MIT style licenses and "Open Core" business models. It's only bringing back the bad old days of the past.

Microsoft: 70 Percent of All Security Bugs Are Memory Safety Issues

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Around 70 percent of all the vulnerabilities in Microsoft products addressed through a security update each year are memory safety issues; a Microsoft engineer revealed last week at a security conference. From a report: Memory safety is a term used by software and security engineers to describe applications that access the operating system's memory in a way that doesn't cause errors. Memory safety bugs happen when software, accidentally or intentionally, accesses system memory in a way that exceeds its allocated size and memory addresses. Users who often read vulnerability reports come across terms over and over again. Terms like buffer overflow, race condition, page fault, null pointer, stack exhaustion, heap exhaustion/corruption, use after free, or double free -- all describe memory safety vulnerabilities. Speaking at the BlueHat security conference in Israel last week, Microsoft security engineer Matt Miller said that over the last 12 years, around 70 percent of all Microsoft patches were fixes for memory safety bugs.

Re:This is about MS bugs, not general ones

By gweihir • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

You seem to be unaware of the scales here: A typical Linux distro will have > 1000 applications. MS does not even make that many. And no, it is not all memory safety. This is an MS issue.

Re:MS's Jim Allchin...

By drinkypoo • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

... didn't he once say that Microsoft addressed the memory security issues in Windows? Maybe 15 years ago?

Microsoft developed and provided all the tools you'd need to avoid the problem, and then apparently never bothered to use them themselves.


By lgw • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I did low-level code for ~15 years without ever having a memory leak or memory safety bug. Not because I'm especially diligent, but because I was in areas where it just didn't come up. From primitive assembly (with no dynamic memory allocation in the first place, it's hard to screw it up) to C++ done right.

Those odd corner cases are nearly the same set of places where it still makes sense to use low-level languages in the fist place. These days, if you're creating a large C code base where you're constantly allocating and freeing resources, it's almost certainly the wrong tool for the job. OTOH, if half your variables are "const volatile" because they're really memory-mapped sensors, or you only allocate memory at startup because you can't do anything dynamic in your hard realtime system, then it's both the right tool and these memory-use bugs are barely relevant.


By AHuxley • Score: 3 • Thread
have made an Ada OS.

Re: Doesn't help if you remember

By Monster_user • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
Uhm, first one with 900+ vulnerabilities is Debian. What they don't indicate is what branch or branches of Debian is included. Debian is not a single release, but a system. There is the "stable" branch, which is supposed to be secure, and is akin to Windows 10 LTSB (or Windows 7). There is the unstable branch which is more current and akin to the Windows 10 Deferred channel. Then there is the Testing branch which is akin to Windows 10 Insider Preview, and isn't expected to be secure.

The question is whether these 900+ vulnerabilities are 300 duplicated vulnerabilities for each branch, or whether they are more heavily biased towards the testing or stable branches.

Once you get past Debian and Android, the next ones are at around the 300 mark, and Windows 10 is in the top ten.

And if you really want to compare Linux, not that RedHat Enterprise Linux is much further down the list than even Windows Server, much less Windows 10.

Tobacco Use is Soaring Among US Kids, Driven By E-cigarettes

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Public health officials Monday said there's a growing epidemic of tobacco products currently used by children -- 4.9 million high school and middle school kids used tobacco products in 2018 up from 3.6 million in 2017 -- mainly due to a growth in e-cigarette usage. From a report: For the fifth year in a row, e-cigs were the most popular product amongst high school students, but in 2018 it reached unprecedented epidemic levels, with the addition of another 1.5 million kids, said Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Current users" are defined as people who've used a tobacco product in past 30 days. "Frequent users" are defined as people who've used the product for more than 20 out of the past 30 days.

Re:e-cigarrettes arent tobacco

By Ol Olsoc • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

We need to find a way to keep vaping devices away from pre-18ers.

Unilateral permanent confiscation of the vaping device when they are caught, a criminal record that stays on file for the next 7 years even though they are a minor, and the threat of losing access to public education if they are caught again might do the trick, at the very least, it will put the parent(s) or guardians in the loop who might be better equipped to deal with whatever further disciplinary actions are required.

Holy fuck, you left out summary and immediate execution.

I suspect you are Poeing, but if not, I think it was W.F. Buckley, ont of my two favorite conservatives, who suffered fro glaucoma and went offshore to treat it with devil's lettuce that said:

" Marijuana laws have unquestionably destroyed more lives than marijuana ever did." reminds me of your suggestion.

Re:e-cigarrettes arent tobacco

By Tawnos • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

> for nicotine, there is no "good" range, and it is far more addictive.

Are you sure about that? From what I've read, there's a potentiating effect of the nicotine caused by MAOIs in tobacco. Further, I have a very hard time finding studies about the health effects of nicotine that isn't from tobacco (smoked, chewed, or otherwise ingested). The health effects of nicotine sans tobacco seem akin to those of caffeine.

Re:e-cigarrettes arent tobacco

By cayenne8 • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Well, it is believed that the ritual of smoking is a significant contributor to the addiction.

Oh, absolutely the ritual.

While I'm glad I quit really WAS nice to smoke in bars while drinking. You can still in most places down here....and it is tempting.

There's also the social aspect of it....maybe diminishing,

BUT...I found at work as they made you smoke outside, I often was talking with co-workers I don't sit near and getting scuttlebutt, I also found myself talking with people MUCH higher up on the totem pole than I, and while I had their ear, I'd give my views on things as well as getting inside info on how things were going. Often I got selected for things due to familiarity driving I believe in part, by them knowing who I was out in the "smoke hole" with them.

Re: Does that really count?

By Type44Q • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Buttered Ass and Steamed Kale

Together or separate?

Re:e-cigarrettes arent tobacco

By sjames • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

The social aspect at work is very definitely there. Indoors, you couldn't even get 10 seconds with the boss's boss. In the smoking area you could shoot the breeze w/ the CEO.

When I did system installs, I found that a trip to the designated smoking area was sometimes a great way to break through a management log jam.

Software Engineer Loses Life Savings in Quadriga Imbroglio

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Tong Zou wasn't a stereotypical crypto bro bent on accumulating flashy trophies such as Lamborghinis when he deposited his life savings into Quadriga CX's digital exchange. The 30-year-old software engineer, who'd been working in California for seven years, just wanted to save a few bucks on transfer fees after deciding to move to Vancouver. It proved to be a C$560,000 ($422,000) mistake. From a report: "It's all my savings, so I'm just living on what little I have left and trying to start over," Zou said in a phone interview Friday from Vancouver, where he has been living out of an AirBnB for the past month. "It pretty much took everything away from me." Zou is one of Quadriga's 115,000 clients who are out of luck after the sudden death of the firm's founder left C$190 million in cryptocurrencies protected by his passwords unretrievable. The exchange has halted operations and was granted protection from creditors on Feb. 5 in Nova Scotia Supreme Court in Halifax.


By supremebob • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

"Deposited his life savings into Quadriga CX's digital exchange" were the stupidity keywords that convinced me not to feel sorry for him.

After all of the Bitcoin exchanges that have failed over the past few years, why do people still DO this?


By fahrbot-bot • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

"Deposited his life savings into Quadriga CX's digital exchange" were the stupidity keywords that convinced me not to feel sorry for him.

After all of the Bitcoin exchanges that have failed over the past few years, why do people still DO this?

TFS says he, "just wanted to save a few bucks on transfer fees" moving from CA to Vancouver, so he probably just intended to park the money for a very short time while he moved and found a new bank. Seems dumb in any case. Nerdwallet lists the average international bank wire fees at $45 outgoing and $13 incoming, so he risked $422K US to save $58. Cheaper still would have been to bring some cash, deposit a check to open a new account and use a CC for a bit. Some life lessons are hard, but "penny wise and pound foolish" doesn't have to be one of them.


By jythie • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Yeah, that is why I am really skeptical of they guy's story. If all he was really trying to do was save money on transfering between banks, transfering all his money into an exchange (which has a a fee), then finding enough sellers to convert nearly half a million dollars into crypto (which also has fees), then later find enough buyers to convert it back (more fees) and finally transfer it back to a bank? That makes zero sense unless he also believed it would be making money in the process.

Re:He didn't say "investment"

By epine • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Its pretty common to put your life savings with one bank or brokerage firm.

When you buy a share through a brokerage account, do you own the underlying share, or does your broker own the underlying share, upon said institution you lay claim to your just portion as some kind of common creditor?

I suspect that's a distinction with a difference.

Also, in a conventional bank, the cash portion is often highly insured by the Great Revenue Service of the Public Good (precisely the institution this clown was attempting to shirk by hopping aboard an underground railway through the Great Digital Wild West).

Re:He didn't say "investment"

By Solandri • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Unstated: also wanted to avoid Canadian taxes on said money....

Canada taxes based on where you live. He was a Canadian citizen living in the U.S., so not subject to Canadian taxes on the money he earned while living in the U.S. I have several Canadian friends who work in the U.S. They have to be careful to monitor the time they spend visiting Canada on vacations and such. If they began (or ended) work in the U.S. partway through the year, and their visits to Canada push them over 183 days in Canada for the year, suddenly they are a Canadian resident for the year and owe Canadian taxes on everything they made. The U.S. taxes the money anyway since it was earned in the U.S.

I went through the reverse situation (U.S. citizen working in Canada). The U.S. taxes not just based on where you earned the money, but also on citizenship. So I was subject to double-taxation. Canada taxed my income because my job was in Canada. The U.S. taxed my income because I was a U.S. citizen. The two countries have a tax treaty so I only paid the greater of the two income taxes on my wages. But the treaty only covered earned income (you can apply your Canadian earned income tax bill as a credit to your U.S. earned income tax bill). If I had lived in Canada, any unearned income - interest from a savings account, investments, sales of stock which had appreciated, etc - would've been subject to double taxation. Both countries would've made me pay taxes on it. So I ended up living just across the border in the U.S. and commuted to work in Canada, and telecommuted often enough so I never passed 183 days per year in Canada.

California was another small nightmare. California taxes based on citizenship as well, and will still try to claim you are a California citizen (resident) even if you move to another country, and will try to make you pay California taxes on everything you make abroad. To thwart them, you first have to set up residency in another state before you move abroad. Preferably a state with no income taxes so they don't try to pull the same thing. So even if I had decided to live in Canada, I would've first had to have lived in Washington state long enough to get a driver's license there to officially shed my California residency.

The fees actually aren't your biggest concern. Exchange rates are always fluctuating. When I moved most of my Canadian funds back to the U.S., I did it a little at a time over a span of a couple months. If I had transferred it all at once, I could've lost a lot of money to a transient blip in the exchange rate. That happened to the owner of the company I was working at. He panicked when the U.S. Dollar began falling in Sept-Oct 2007 and converted all of the company's U.S. funds to Canadian in early November 2007. That happened to be

Young People Who Play Video Games Have Higher Moral Reasoning Skills

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An anonymous reader shares a report: Young people who play video games, including violent titles, display more developed moral reasoning skills than their non-gaming peers, a study has found. Researchers from Bournemouth University asked 166 adolescents aged between 11 and 18-years old about their video game habits and questions designed to measure their moral development -- the thought process behind determining what is right or wrong. The children and teenagers who said they played more video games from a wide variety of genres had increased moral reasoning scores, including titles containing violent content. Violent games were found to have a positive relationship with moral reasoning while mature content was more likely to produce a negative one, the report published in published in journal Frontiers in Psychology found.

Re:Finish them off?

By lgw • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

The boys in blue are a giant heavily armed gang and you generally don't want them gunning for you.

Nah, you just drive through a car wash and it's fine.

Re:Finish them off?

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I grew up on Pac-Man and Asteroids. Different world.

Sure, because cannibalism is so much more moral than shooting someone. Whatever.

Re:Finish them off?

By jellomizer • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

For most healthy humans, they know how to draw the line between imagination and reality. In a video game there is no lasting life consequence for your action, if you die, then you start the game over again or just respawn. In real life we don't see Gen Xers jumping off buildings because of all the platform games they played. Because we know it isn't real, and much of the violence in video games, is often played to see what will happen, because there are no consequences, and there is always a reset switch ready for any major mistake. I can play a game where I wipe out woodland creatures, however in real life I feel bad for having to setup a kill trap for that mouse which is chewing threw the back seat in my car (After numerous human traps have failed), heck I would normally just take a spider and put it outside vs just killing it.

Now if Grand Theft Auto was setup where you had to learn the life story of every person you have ran over, spend the rest of the game with a non-save, non-restart and non-quit state. Learning about the harm you have done, spending years of game time in jail. For those who played the game would be playing it like in real life.

Video games give us an outlet for a what if, nothing mattered, we are able to take risks in games that we wouldn't in real life. Heck just running down a mountain in Fallout isn't something I would do in real life, because a simulated fall where you loose 100HP vs a real fall where you may survive, but you will be hurting for much longer.

Re:Then why do I hear these stories

By Mashiki • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

of the "domestic disturbances" broadcast on Twitch when the S.O. interrupts the guy's Fortnight game?

The same reason if you worked in a union shop 30, 40, 50 years ago you'd hear the same thing through a 2nd or 3rd party. The difference is people are being caught because it's caught on video, in turn people can actually be prosecuted with evidence.

What? You think "domestic disturbances" are new or something? The upside in some cases is it actually catches the instigator leading to more appropriate outcomes then simply "it's all the males fault." And of course it also catches some people abusing themselves in order to try and get the other person fucked over.

Re:Finish them off?

By AmiMoJo • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

People don't have a simple "monkey see monkey do" relationship with media, but that doesn't mean it has no influence at all.

In fact the best games, the best books and TV, are often the ones that do affect the player/viewer. Star Trek is a great example, although it wasn't exactly subtle in how it went about it.

Hawaii Lawmakers Chewing on Ban of Plastic Utensils, Bottles and Food Containers

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Plastic bags are out. Plastic straws are on their way out. Now Hawaii lawmakers want to take things a big step further. From a report: They're considering an outright ban on all sorts of single-use plastics common in the food and beverage industry, from plastic bottles to plastic utensils to plastic containers. Senate Bill 522 has already passed through two committees and is on its way to two more. Supporters say it's an ambitious and broad measure that would position Hawaii as a leader in the nation -- and ensure that Hawaii's oceans have a fighting chance as the global plastic pollution problem worsens. But others worry about the practicality of such a proposal.

Re:Bad Idea

By Oceanplexian • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
You should actuallty talk to someone in the industry before spreading FUD. The materials dumped from 50-60 years ago were much more dangerous and hard to break down than the waste produced today (Asbestos, Lead, etc). All the news stories about plastic taking hundreds or thousands of years to degrade is utter nonesense. In modern waste management, waste is composted and reaches extremely high temperatures where plastics readily break down. In fact most of it is turned into energy, since plastic comes from hydrocarbons. That is, of course, all the stuff that isn't recycled, since modern countries have great recycling infrastructure. As for the stuff out in the ocean? It photodegrades rapidly since the ultraviolet light of the sun breaks it apart.

The main problem with plastics is not people in Hawaii or California drinking out of plastic straws. It's third world countries that don't give a damn about the environment, don't recycle, and spew their waste everywhere. In fact most US Corporations do give a damn about product lifecycle because the people who work in, and own those corporations are Americans, and don't want to live in a polluted S***hole. That's why the US doesn't have garbage in the streets and generally has a good handle on waste management.

plastic bottles

By pgmrdlm • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Topping the list of items found polluting our beaches and waterways were 2.4 million cigarette butts, which contain plastic filters. That was followed by 1.7 million food wrappers and 1.6 million plastic water bottles.

Forgot about cigarette butts. And that is one of the major polluters. First world nations may be cutting back on this product, but that is not necessarily the truth in third world nations.

Why not make littering illegal?

By acoustix • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Oh wait...

I saw a stat that suggest that as much as 80% of the plastic waste in the ocean is fishing netting. The vast majority of the rest is supposedly from underdeveloped counties. Something like 0.1% of the plastic waste in the ocean is from the U.S. So these laws won't make a difference in the whole scheme of things.

Why not focus on the real problems that will have a real effect?

Are are there alternative motives involved?

Re:Paper was fine

By PopeRatzo • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

I remember paper straws. They usually lasted for a whole drink

Yes, and unlike plastic straws, cocaine didn't tend to stick to the inside of paper straws.

Um, at least that's what I've heard. I think I read it in a book.

Re:Great idea...

By Mike Van Pelt • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I thought the predecessor to plastic straws were paper ones?

While many feel this necessitates having straws that turn into cellulose pulp in your mouth, this is not true. Coating the paper with a biodegradable wax, like carnuba, would solve the problem nicely, as would the use of modified starch coatings.

That doesn't line up with my memory of paper straws, even wax-coated, back in the 60s. "Sometimes lasted the whole drink"... maybe. And they didn't give refills back then.

I've used some of the more recent paper straws, now that the plastic ones have been declared Politically Incorrect in some jurisdictions in California. They're much thicker than the ones I recall from the 1960s ... and they fall apart more quickly. I'm not sure if they contain any wax. They didn't seem to. Probably because wax is petroleum based (IA! IA!!! EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!!) or beeswax (Exploitation of non-consenting lifeforms!! Evil!!!) or something. There's always something.

It's the Real World -- With Google Maps Layered on Top

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Google has started to roll out augmented reality navigation feature in its Maps app for some users. The company told the Wall Street Journal that the walking-focused feature will be available shortly, but only to Local Guides (community reviewers) at first. The feature will need "more testing" before it's available to everyone else, Google said. Still, this suggests AR route-finding is much closer to becoming a practical reality. Google Maps uses GPS to get a basic idea of where you are, and then relies on the camera to get a much more exact location with 3D arrows hovering over the places you need to turn. Notably, though, Google doesn't want you to rely too heavily on AR to get around.


By ISoldat53 • Score: 3 • Thread
I'd rather have an unreal world with Google Maps layered on top of it.

Developer Releases Windows 95 OS as an App For Windows 10, macOS and Linux

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Mark Wycislik-Wilson, writing for BetaNews: Last year, developer Felix Rieseberg released Windows 95 as an Electron app to let 90s computer users relive their younger years. Now he's back with a second version of the Windows 95 app, and it's even better than ever -- gaming classics such as Doom and Wolfenstein3D are now included, for starters! Based on the Electron framework, Windows 95 2.0 is written in JavaScript, and is essentially a 500MB standalone virtual machine. The original release was lacking in a number of areas -- such as no sound or internet access. This second release is described as a "big update" and includes a web browser in the form of Netscape Navigator 2.0.

Oh God why

By thereddaikon • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Electron is the embodiment of every joke about programmers being lazy ever made. It is an abomination. It and similar frameworks like CEF are the opposite of the direction we should be going in. It used to be that programmers actually knew how their hardware worked. It used to be they knew how their code interacted with a system. Now they have no idea and to save their ignorance just throw extra layers of abstraction at it until their code only has to interact with some weird Fischer Price idea of what a computer looks like. Want to go a step further? Develop your electron apps with NPM. Because being dependent on the cloud for your dependencies is such a great idea. I'm not saying everyone should only develop in assembly or even C. But these super high level languages that run in VMs are being horribly abused. They are inefficient, insecure and often the lazy ignorant assholes who make them cant even be bothered to write their JS clean. I would be more lenient if they tried to write smart code in a stupid framework but its stupidity all the way down. With great power comes great responsibility. The dev community has shown they can exercise the wisdom of a five year old who found daddy's gun. I'm hoping some spectre level exploit comes to light that ruins the whole concept so we can go back to writing software the right way.

Indeed - Why

By SuperKendall • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

faster than Trump pounds out nonsense statements on Twitter.

You know what's funny? I support Trump, yet never bring him up unless it's directly pertinent to the topic at hand.

Yet people that hate him seem to want to talk about him all the time. If I have someone I really dislike, my goal in life is that I think about them zero. In fact my general goal in life is to think about politicians zero.

If nothing else for your own health forget about Trump.

It's all fun and games...

By mccalli • Score: 3 • Thread
....until somebody ports EMACS to it.


By wierd_w • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Don't get me wrong. I have done some very silly things with win9x instances, including getting an instance of it to run entirely out of a syslinux memdisk, with drivespace compression turned on.

For the most part however, such silly things had some sliver of a sensible reason d'etre: Quite a few industrial systems run on 9x, even today. (vinyl cutters, CNC laser cutters, waterjet systems, metal detectors, even x-ray systems.) The hardware to keep those old systems running is aging and falling apart (IDE disks especially.) Being able to boot reliably and consistently in a guaranteed clean fashion each and every time with modern replacement parts (SDcard to IDE adapters and pals), makes such experimentation useful to at least a handful of people, making the silliness worthwhile. Learning how to set those legacy deployments up in "Hard to break" configurations is useful, and can be very helpful to the poor souls who have no choice but to work with OSes that ruled the earth in the age of the dinosaurs.

This on the other hand, is just DosBox running on what could possibly be the most inefficiently written platform in existence, with internet connectivity just a stone's throw away.

Considering that dosbox is already multi-platform, AND has a mature x86 emulation core all of its own, **AND** can boot win9x from a disk image natively--- What reason does this even have to exist, except as a hobby project that is not meant to see the light of day?

I really cannot think of one.

In Javascript?

By Opportunist • Score: 3 • Thread

Well, at least we won't have to worry about it running too fast to play the games.

Mars One is Dead

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The company that aimed to put humanity on the red planet has met an unfortunate, but wholly-expected end. Engadget reports: Mars One Ventures, the for-profit arm of the Mars One mission was declared bankrupt back in January, but wasn't reported until a keen-eyed Redditor found the listing. It was the brainchild of Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp, previously the founder of green energy company Ampyx Power. Lansdorp's aim was to start a company that could colonize one of our nearest neighbors. Mars One was split into two ventures, the non-profit Mars One Foundation and the for-profit Mars One Ventures. The Swiss-based Ventures AG was declared bankrupt by a Basel court on January 15th and was, at the time, valued at almost $100 million. Mars One Ventures PLC, the UK-registered branch, is listed as a dormant company with less than $25,000 in its accounts. There is no data available on the non-profit Mars One Foundation, which funded itself by charging its commercial partner licensing fees. Speaking to Engadget, Bas Lansdorp said that the Foundation is still operating, but won't be able to act without further investment. Lansdorp declined to give further comment beyond saying that he was working with other parties "to find a solution."

Anybody serious would be at Amundsen–Scott

By WindBourne • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
The reason is that if you set up a station on mars, you have to assume that you can have as much as 3-6 months outage due to dust storms.
As such, Amundsen–Scott offers the REAL extreme needed for testing (other than maybe putting a station on top of Everest or K2). Need real external power, so a SMALL 1MW nuclear power station really needs to be developed. In fact, that would be ideal for south pole so as to quit bringing diesel fuel for electricity.
Likewise, the ppl would have to explore in space suits and gear in 0-40 C. This would give a decent testing of the equipment.
Of course, doing similar in high planes desert would be smart as well, but that will only test a worn out dust.

Re:mars one was dead before git-go

By DontBeAMoran • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

It's their money to spend... and I'd rather see them building rockets instead of wasting it on Louis XIV chairs and other useless crap.

Now, where's my Tesla electric bicycle, damnit?

Re:Good - Forget Mars

By jwhyche • Score: 4 • Thread

No they don't. I've not seen where any one is talking about floating cities in the sky on Venus. There has been some talk of letting lose some floating balloons to study the planet. Which would actually work pretty well. JPL has proposed this to NASA. So that is pretty some sound science.

Re:Good - Forget Mars

By 110010001000 • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
That is one thing we agree with: that wiki page WAS just the start. There are tons of websites created by bored website programmers/tech guys who dream of escaping the human race while they watch Star Trek reruns. You guys rehash the same crap over and over again. Floating cities on Venus. Terraforming entire planets. Building cave colonies on Mars. Meanwhile our water sources are becoming increasingly polluted on Earth and the threat of climate change and pollution is real. Why not try to solve these problems instead of fantasizing about leaving it? You aren't going anywhere, you might as well come outside and help.

Re:Don't feed the troll

By jwhyche • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

I think I agree. Plausible is probably a much better word. There is lot of unknowns and lots of things can go wrong with things we don't expect.

Like a year ago I did some experiments with Universal Sandbox on moving Venus to different orbit for terraforming. I thought that I could just add energy to the motion of the planet and it would move to a higher orbit. Nope. It did something I didn't expect. I dropped it in to the sun.

It took me several days to get the simulation right. What I learned is you have to change the orbital motion slightly at certain points in the planets orbit to achieve the desired outcome. Other wise you drop it into the sun or eject it from the solar system. After I got it right I was able to put venus in a stable orbit between mars and earth, in the goldielock zone while keeping all 3 planets in a stable orbit.

Something else happened in that experiment just by sheer luck. In one of the experiments I sent the orbit of venus out beyond mars. The orbit turned out to be stable, so I left it there and left the simulation running. When I came back, according to the simulation, the surface temperature had dropped from 300C to 62C.

Trump Administration Unveils Order To Prioritize and Promote AI

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U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday will sign an executive order asking federal government agencies to dedicate more resources and investment into research, promotion and training on artificial intelligence (AI), Reuters reports, citing a senior administration official said. From the report: Under the American AI Initiative, the administration will direct agencies to prioritize AI investments in research and development, increase access to federal data and models for that research and prepare workers to adapt to the era of AI. There was no specific funding announced for the initiative, the administration official said on a conference call, adding that it called for better reporting and tracking of spending on AI-related research and development. The initiative aims to make sure the United States keeps its research and development advantage in AI and related areas, such as advanced manufacturing and quantum computing. Trump, in his State of the Union speech last week, said he was willing to work with lawmakers to deliver new and important infrastructure investment, including investments in the cutting-edge industries of the future, calling it a "necessity."

Re:Uh oh

By ranton • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Who would have thought that the only President in modern times to use direct hatred and vitriol as his core platform would engender a negative emotional response from those he attacks? It doesn't make it right to dismiss everything the President says, but it takes a particularly strong person to look past Trump's demeanor to give him the benefit of the doubt on anything he says (unless they agree with his platform, which doesn't take any strength at all).

When 90% of what someone says is hateful and ignorant garbage, anyone should be forgiven for writing off the other 10% too just for convenience sake. Most people have better things to do.

Re:Uh oh

By bobbied • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

To be fair.... These type of gotcha "man on the street" interviews are very self serving to the interviewer's position.

There are a pile of folks who whish to believe they are "in the know" and it's not hard to find somebody who *thinks* they are more knowledgeable than they really are. Such "I know everything" is common among college age people, who have still not completely developed their adult mental capacity and still have the adolescent tendencies. It's an age and maturity thing.

I remember when I was younger, I knew a lot more then than I know now, at least in my estimates. I grew up, realized my knowledge is limited, and my attitudes changed quite a bit, listening more, being slower to answer, and prone to actually looking up the facts for myself before running off my mouth on stuff I don't know anything about.

Automation will not elminiate all jobs

By sjbe • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I agree with the rest of your comment, but I think crystal balls are cloudy in this area. The computers are now becoming capable of performing service jobs, which is where people went when automation reduced manufacturing jobs.

I work in manufacturing. Manufacturing jobs have not been reduced the way many people think. Some have been relocated. There are more manufacturing jobs than ever globally. What has changed in the US is that labor intensive products are not built in countries with low labor costs. Capital intensive products are built in the US. The US has a $3 Trillion manufacturing sector. The total number of manufacturing jobs in the US is about the same as it was at the start of WWII. It's down from the peak numbers in the 1970s but still accounts for around 13 million people and holding. The percent of the jobs in the economy has fallen but that's largely because the other sectors grew while manufacturing jobs stayed steady.

As well, the workers' share of profits has been declining for decades, and wages aren't keeping up with inflation, so that final point is extremely disputable.

That depends on exactly how you measure it and which jobs you are measuring. Just because someone has a smaller piece of the pie doesn't mean they are worse off if the pie overall grew. And the evidence is clear that the pie has grown. Sure you can find some periods where the data shows a decline but I can show you hundreds of years of data showing a very steady increase. Yes there are some serious income inequality issues going on but that isn't proof of some irreversible decline in employment thanks to automation. Don't conflate the two issues.

What exactly do the humans do when robots do the service jobs?

Several answers to that.
1) Robots do not and will not do all the service jobs. Automation does not solve every problem because it is not economical to automate everywhere. People naively extrapolate automation trends to infinity without really understanding what is going on. It's too expensive to automate problem and automation creates new jobs that cannot yet be automated. 70 years ago secretarial pools were a common thing. Today they are unheard of and yet we still have full employment.
2) We have no idea what jobs will be created by further advances in automation. We never have known and cannot know. I'm old enough to pre-date the internet and if anyone claims they predicted what it would do and the huge economic impact it has had is lying. We dreamed about such things but had absolutely no idea what form it would actually take or what jobs it would involve. The jobs people will be doing in 50 years are hard to imagine today. Some will be the same but many haven't even been invented yet.
3) Humans control legislatures and can easily regulate automation in places should it become necessary.
4) The amount of economically valuable work that can be done is effectively infinite and our resources to automate are finite. Automation can sometimes depress wages but it doesn't eliminate them altogether. Some things that are currently impossible become economically achievable as automation makes it possible for people to address those problems.


By Creedo • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
I'd settle for some sign of HI (Human Intelligence) from this administration.

I should add

By rsilvergun • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
the solution isn't necessarily to stop immigration. The solution is to make sure that the wealth immigrants generate makes it to everyone.

Right now the money made from immigration goes to the top. At least in America. We don't have Single Payer healthcare, we have very few social services and we pay taxes that, if you count your company's healthcare as a tax (and you should, what else would you call it) we pay as much or more as anyone on Europe.

A huge part of the tension from immigration isn't just the occasional racist, it's that immigrants lower wages by increasing supply while improving a sector of the economy (the stock market) that doesn't affect the people who's wages are going down. Remember, only about 20% of Americans own stock, even if you include 401ks as "owning stock"....

This is why we need a New New Deal.

Russia To Disconnect From the Internet as Part of a Planned Test

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Russian authorities and major internet providers are planning to disconnect the country from the internet as part of a planned experiment, Russian news agency RosBiznesKonsalting (RBK) reports. From a report: The reason for the experiment is to gather insight and provide feedback and modifications to a proposed law introduced in the Russian Parliament in December 2018. A first draft of the law mandated that Russian internet providers should ensure the independence of the Russian internet space (Runet) in the case of foreign aggression to disconnect the country from the rest of the internet. In addition, Russian telecom firms would also have to install "technical means" to re-route all Russian internet traffic to exchange points approved or managed by Roskomnazor, Russia's telecom watchdog.


By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Think of all the spam bots and election tampering bots being down for a day or so. All those muh Russia types should be cheering.

You've got that backwards. This is about protecting russian civilian infrastructure from retaliation. Their military operations will still be online. They aren't cutting themselves off from the internet to do anyone else any favors. The time-frame overlaps with Felonious DJT's threat to shutdown american cyber-defenses again. It should also be viewed in context of Russia's liquidating their holdings of American debt instruments, further insulating them from another form of possible retaliation.

Actually kind of an interesting exercise

By DarkOx • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I wonder how survivable an internet cut would really be in terms of domestic services..

How many things are mistakenly pointed at foreign DNS sources?

What assumptions do CDNs make about location and sources, DNS horizens etc that could prove faulty?

What complex filters and routing cost rules applied to BGP won't handle an event of that scale well?

What gremlins lurk in platforms like Azure and AWS that will behave badly if all routes to non-domestic hosts suddenly go away. That isnt a failure mode that gets a lot testing at a guess. Sometimes even a lot of redundancy does not roll as smoothly as we might imagine when failure modes we did not account for crop up. See Wells Fargo last week..

Honestly I applaud the Russians for undertaking the exercises. I'd *almost* say it would be a good thing for us to do here in the good old USA to do but I am not sure I want the government this administration or any other to have a working tested kill switch because I kinda be it would be misused ultimately.

smart on their part

By WindBourne • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Russia and China are working together. It makes sense to have similar first strike capabilities. And yes, this is a first strike type capability. Protecting your communications.


By Comboman • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
- Russia disconnects from Internet for short test.
- Rest of world gets hit with "mysterious" virus/worm that takes down critical financial/industrial/military infrastructure.
- Russia decides not to reconnect to protect their systems.
- Brave Russian programmers develop "cure" for virus/worm, offer to help rest of world for "small" price (just eastern Europe).

Russia in depth

By Artem S. Tashkinov • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Jokes aside the Russian mafia elites along with their God Father Tsar Putin do everything to brainwash the poor Russian people into believing the country is the best in the world despite very low wages, underdeveloped industries, technological gap, huge brain drain, horrible health care (which is roughly 20-30 years behind the rest of the world), rampant corruption, poor ecological situation in many cities, comparatively low average life span, totally malfunctioning courts and police that mainly serve the richest.

The Internet is the only media that cannot fully control, so this could be a nice test of what else they can deprive the people of, so that the opposition has literally no means of revealing the truth about the inner workings of Russia.

You see, in many countries of the worlds there's mafia however as for Russia mafia has its own ... state.

Wayward Satellites Test Einstein's Theory of General Relativity

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Scientific American: In August 2014 a rocket launched the fifth and sixth satellites of the Galileo global navigation system, the European Union's $11-billion answer to the U.S.'s GPS. But celebration turned to disappointment when it became clear that the satellites had been dropped off at the wrong cosmic "bus stops." Instead of being placed in circular orbits at stable altitudes, they were stranded in elliptical orbits useless for navigation. The mishap, however, offered a rare opportunity for a fundamental physics experiment. Two independent research teams -- one led by Pacome Delva of the Paris Observatory in France, the other by Sven Herrmann of the University of Bremen in Germany -- monitored the wayward satellites to look for holes in Einstein's general theory of relativity.

Einstein's theory predicts time will pass more slowly close to a massive object, which means that a clock on Earth's surface should tick at a more sluggish rate relative to one on a satellite in orbit. This time dilation is known as gravitational redshift. Any subtle deviation from this pattern might give physicists clues for a new theory that unifies gravity and quantum physics. Even after the Galileo satellites were nudged closer to circular orbits, they were still climbing and falling about 8,500 kilometers twice a day. Over the course of three years Delva's and Herrmann's teams watched how the resulting shifts in gravity altered the frequency of the satellites' super-accurate atomic clocks. In a previous gravitational redshift test, conducted in 1976, when the Gravity Probe-A suborbital rocket was launched into space with an atomic clock onboard, researchers observed that general relativity predicted the clock's frequency shift with an uncertainty of 1.4 x 10-4. The new studies, published last December in Physical Review Letters, again verified Einstein's prediction -- and increased that precision by a factor of 5.6. So, for now, the century-old theory still reigns.


By jd • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Yes. GPS has low reliability and is controlled by a lunatic. By having an alternative, high-precision, system that actually works and is not controlled by a lunatic, you have what's called a benefit.


By jd • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

It's also much higher precision - by an order of magnitude. The US system cannot be trivially upgraded, you have to replace all of the satellites.

Re:How elliptical are the orbits, I wonder.

By caseih • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Apparently this data can be found in RINEX format here:

Despite these satellites being lost as far as the constellation usability is concerned, the ESA plans to have the system completed by 2020, and that would mean 100% coverage across Europe and most of the world. Right now my phone uses Galileo as well as GPS and Glonas. I just noticed that Glonas reports nearly 100% coverage of the globe right now also.

Some of the GPS units I'm working right including the U-Blox M8T with RTKLIB and the ZED-F9P (integrated RTK) see satellites from GPS, Glonass, Galileo, Beidou, and QZSS. In fact I was able to briefly get an RTK fix on my M8T (Reach RS+) using only Beidou observation data from my base unit, apparently. With cheap receivers like the ZED-F9P, lots of satellite constellations, it's really a golden age for low-cost, high-accuracy GNSS work for agriculture, drones, etc.

To check for oddities

By foxalopex • Score: 3 • Thread

At this point with all the overwhelming evidence, most would agree that Einstein is probably correct. The reason they keep doing things like this is to see if they can find something unusual or unexpected. It's often the weird / unexplained phenomena that leads to new theories or even technology that we can use. So yes, it seems redundant but it's how new things are discovered.

Scientific Fact

By Roger W Moore • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Your opinion is that muon showers are reaching the Earth due to time dilation therefore proving that time dilation is real.

It's not his opinion, it is established scientific fact. A muon at rest decays with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds. Travelling at the speed of light this means that, without any time dilation, the muon would travel 3e8*2.2e-6 = 660m. However, muons are typically generated at around 15 km about the surface and we also see a lot coming it at angles meaning that they have travelled even further than this.

Looking at muons produced directly overhead, which have the shortest distance to travel, without time dilation this is well over 22 lifetimes and so the probability of survival of 1.35e-10. This will be even lower for muons produced at non-vertical angles and so have to travel further. We observe a rate of 1 muon per second per cubic centimetre at the Earths surface so to produce this rate without time dilation we would need such a high intensity of cosmic rays (comparable to early accelerator beam intensities) hitting the atmosphere that plane travel and mountain climbing would be death sentences from the massive radiation at altitude.

The lack of acute radiation sickness in pilots and mountain climbers therefore conclusively rules out that the muon lifetime does not change with relative speed. From our point of view the muon's lifetime is dilated by relativity. From the muon's point of view, the thickness of the atmosphere is Lorentz contracted making it appear far thinner to the muon.

New Images of the Distant Ultima Thule Object Have Surprised Scientists

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Iwastheone shares a report from Ars Technica: Back in early January, when scientists pulled down their first batch of data from the New Horizons spacecraft, they celebrated an odd snowman-shaped object in the outer Solar System. From this first look, it appeared as though Ultima Thule, formally named 2014 MU69, consisted of two spheres in contact with one another -- a contact binary. Now that scientists have downloaded more data from the distant spacecraft, however, our view of Ultima Thule has changed. A sequence of images captured as New Horizons moved away from the object in the Kuiper Belt at a velocity of 50,000 km/hour, taken about 10 minutes after closest approach, show a much flatter appearance. After analyzing these new images, scientists say the larger lobe more closely resembles a large pancake, and the smaller lobe looks a bit like a walnut. The new photos reveal a dramatically different object because they were taken from a different angle than the images that were downloaded first. As planetary scientist Alex Parker noted on Twitter, "The larger lobe looks to have a shape similar to some of the pancake moons of Saturn, like Atlas." However, Saturn's moons were believed to have formed near the gas giant, in the midst of its rings, rather than in deep space.

Don't know my own strength

By garryknight • Score: 3 • Thread

I knew it was a mistake trying that new walnut pancake recipe. And I probably went a bit overboard tossing it. Please accept my apologies.

Re:Still didn't change the name, eh?

By religionofpeas • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Bad idea to change the name. It's better dilute the Nazi connotations by ordinary use.

Re: Still didn't change the name, eh?

By cyber-vandal • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

He wore a tacky shirt! We must ruin his and his team's crowning moment and try to end his career! No wonder so many people hate you miserable dipshits.

I guess it makes sense?

By argStyopa • Score: 3 • Thread

Doesn't an oblate spheroid make sense (as constituent parts)?

In theory-space, particles would be pulled together (assuming zero starting motion to all particles in a cloud, all the same density, size, and frictionlessness) would form into a theoretically-perfect sphere by gravity.

But IRL these particles don't start out with zero fact the almost all have SOME motion, as well as slight attractiveness to each other and of course friction. As these all pull toward a centroid, the conservation of angular momentum causing it to spin faster and form an oblate rather than a sphere. In fact, one might be able to infer some information about the initial formation-state of the body by its oblateness, particularly if one could get a statistically useful cross-section of the materials that comprise it?

Dunno but ...

By nospam007 • Score: 3 • Thread

"closely resembles a large pancake, and the smaller lobe looks a bit like a walnut."

Some scientist should have breakfast before going to work.

New Long-Spined Dinosaur With 'Mohawk of Large Spikes' Discovered In Patagonia

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"Researchers in Argentina have discovered a new Sauropod with unusually long spikes protruding forward from its body," writes Slashdot reader dryriver. The findings have been published in the journal Scientific Reports. ScienceAlert reports: Living 140 million years ago in the early Lower Cretaceous, the newly discovered herbivore Bajadasaurus pronuspinax had a thing for growing spikes. It was part of the Sauropod family, but looked a little like a small Brontosaurus crossed with a porcupine. "The sauropods are the big dinosaurs with long necks and long tails, but specifically this is a small family within the sauropods which were about 9 or 10 meters in length," paleontologist Pablo Gallina from the National Scientific and Technical Research Council in Argentina told Agencia EFE. Bajadasaurus was a species of this small family, called Dicraeosauridae, all of which have similar spines on their necks. When the researchers discovered the fossils of this previously unknown dinosaur in Patagonia, Argentina, the remains included not only most of the skull, but a whole spine bone. This gave the researchers the chance to investigate what these spines might have been used for. "We believe that the long and sharp spines -- very long and thin -- on the neck and back of Bajadasaurus and Amargasaurus cazaui (another dicraeosaurid) must have been to deter possible predators," explained Gallina to AFP.'

Re:These defenses are weird

By Dunbal • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Bone has no pain receptors. The extreme pain that people associate with bone actually comes from the periosteum, a pain receptor rich membrane that covers every bone. The tearing of this membrane causes pain, and because bones tend to bleed profusely, the swelling underneath this membrane at and around the site of the break also causes a lot of pain. The bone itself however does not cause pain. Since this bone is outside the dinosaur's body one can assume that it's not covered in periosteum.

Insects Could Vanish Within a Century At Current Rate of Decline, Says Global Review

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: The world's insects are hurtling down the path to extinction, threatening a "catastrophic collapse of nature's ecosystems," according to the first global scientific review. More than 40% of insect species are declining and a third are endangered, the analysis found. The rate of extinction is eight times faster than that of mammals, birds and reptiles. The total mass of insects is falling by a precipitous 2.5% a year, according to the best data available, suggesting they could vanish within a century. The planet is at the start of a sixth mass extinction in its history, with huge losses already reported in larger animals that are easier to study. But insects are by far the most varied and abundant animals, outweighing humanity by 17 times. They are "essential" for the proper functioning of all ecosystems, the researchers say, as food for other creatures, pollinators and recyclers of nutrients.

Insect population collapses have recently been reported in Germany and Puerto Rico, but the review strongly indicates the crisis is global. The researchers set out their conclusions in unusually forceful terms for a peer-reviewed scientific paper: "The [insect] trends confirm that the sixth major extinction event is profoundly impacting [on] life forms on our planet. The analysis, published in the journal Biological Conservation, says intensive agriculture is the main driver of the declines, particularly the heavy use of pesticides. Urbanization and climate change are also significant factors.
"One of the biggest impacts of insect loss is on the many birds, reptiles, amphibians and fish that eat insects," the study says, noting a recent study in Puerto Rico where there was a 98% fall in ground insects over 35 years. Butterflies and moths are among the worst hit.

Re:Draw a line

By Cloud K • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Funny you should mention xkcd...

The solution

By vbdasc • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

is obvious, if somewhat cynical. Stop using new pesticides. Get used to reduced yields and higher prices of food. There will be famines in the 3rd world. It is inevitable. The human population on our Earth is already well past the line where it can be fed safely. The first few decades will be the hardest. But a century in the future, our descendants will thank us for having evaded the looming catastrophe.

Re:Loss of insect species is very alarming

By Truth_Quark • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

The insect loss rate is a grossly inaccurate, and covers tiny little chunk of land.

What do you mean by "grossly inaccurate"?
As in plus or minus how much?

The authors seem to have data for 19 years (1993 to 2011, inclusive) for the walking sticks, and each of those was taken with 5 days of sampling over 10 traps for 50 samples to get each of the 19 points.

So there's some evidence of statistical rigour. How small is the "tiny little chink" of land?
As in what area?

Do you have any reason to suspect that this area isn't representative?

The 98% ground insect loss" between 1976 and 2012 was taken from a research plot of land in the Luquillo Mountains.

This plot of land was DESTROYED in 1990 by Hurricane Hugo, as was the insect and animal populations.

As you can see from figure 5 C, the walking stick population was declining overall since 1991. The decline is correlated with temperature (figure 5 D, same link as 5 C, above). It does not show a flat or recovering population as if the 1990 even had destroyed the population.

The paper attempts to blame this on an increase in temperature and max/min temperatures without any conclusive evidence, without any good data points

No they don't. They show that that is the likely cause using multiple regression, and discuss the alternative hypothesis of the effect of clear-cutting, showing to be not the case in the study area.

... and I imagine that its an attempt tot secure funding by the massive amounts of 'Climate Change' money there is.

Oh, you're one of those conspiracy theory crackpots that think that climate scientists simply do 25 years of education, then get pathetically lowly paid positions as post docs rather than getting a highly paid job in the private sector, so that they can compete for grants that barely fund their research, and they do not get to pocket any of, because that's a sensible route to personal enrichment by deception?

Not a wonder you had so many misconceptions about the paper. Which science-denial website did you pick up your opinions from, if you don't mind be asking?

FYI, the only data points that are year on year contiguous that they have (2012 and 2013) actually show a small growth in the population.

Nope. As you can see from the figure I link, they have data for every year from 1993 to 2011 for walking sticks as well. Decreases occurred on 10 of those sequential years.

Climate Change is real and terrible, but the science behind this crap is utterly disgraceful.

Irony (adj): a bit like an iron.

Re:Loss of insect species is very alarming

By Truth_Quark • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Whether global warming is true or not ...

Whether gravity is true or not, global warming's been measured.

Yep, warming.

Re:Alarmist propaganda based on anecodtal evidence

By Truth_Quark • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
You read the materials and methods section?

An you found they used 6 data points?

I'll copy the relevant part of the section here:

Arthropod Samples.
Lister (22) sampled arthropods within the Luquillo forest during July 1976 and January 1977. Following the same procedures and using the same study area, arthropod abundances were again estimated during July 2011 and January 2012 using both sticky-traps and sweep netting. Our 10 traps were the same size (34 × 24 cm) as Lister’s (22), and also utilized Tanglefoot as the sticky substance. Traps were laid out on the ground in the same-sized grid (30 × 24 m), and also left uncovered for 12 h between dawn and dusk before all captured insects were removed and stored in alcohol. Hoop sizes of our sweep nets (30-cm diameter) matched those used by Lister (22). Body lengths of all captured arthropods were measured to the nearest 0.5 mm using a dissecting scope and ocular micrometer. Regression equations were used to estimate individual dry weights from body lengths (142, 143).

Anolis Abundance.
To compare Anolis densities with Lister’s (22) estimates from July 1976 and January 1977, we sampled anoles within the same 15 × 15-m quadrat during July 2011 and January 2012. Following Lister (22), we used the Schnabel multiple recapture method (27) to estimate densities. However, instead of marking captured lizards by toe clipping, we used Testor’s enamel paint to create small (2 mm) spots with different color combinations directly above the dorsal base of the tail.

Climate Data.
We analyzed climate data taken at two locations in the Luquillo forest: the United States Forest Service El Verde Field Station and the Bisley Lower meteorological tower, which is part of the Luquillo Critical Zone Observatory. The El Verde station lies 5 km southwest of our study area (18.3211 N, 65.8200 W), at an elevation of 350 m. The upper Bisley Tower is located 3.2 km southeast of our study area (18.3164 N, 65.7453 W) at 352 m in elevation. Temperature data for the El Verde station span 37 y, from 1978 to 2015 (Fig. 1A), and for the Bisley station 21 y from 1993 to 2014 (Fig. 1B). Given that the highest ambient temperatures for a given area should have the greatest impact on fitness, especially for ectotherms (144), daily maximum temperatures were utilized in our analyses. Climate data for the Estacion de Biologia Chamela were obtained from

Luquillo Long-Term Ecological Research Data.
Data sets from the Luquillo long-term ecological research (LTER) online Data Center were downloaded and analyzed for trends in population abundances over time. Detailed methods employed in the various studies can be found at the LTER Data Center website (

Canopy arthropods.
Data were collected by Schowalter (23) near the El Verde field station between February 1991 and June 2009. Several articles have analyzed these samples with respect to invertebrate diversity, functional groups, arthropod composition in gap and intact forest, and recovery from disturbance (145), but none have looked for trends in overall abundance. Here we summed all arthropods sampled each year across taxa, forest type, and tree genera.

Walking sticks.
We analyzed data from a census of walking sticks (Lamponius portoricensis) carried out by Willig et al. (24) between 1991 and 2014 in the 16-ha Luquillo Forest Dynamics Plot (LFDP) near the El Verde Field Station. Sampling was conducted during the wet and dry seasons and captured individuals were classified as adults or juveniles. To analyze walking stick abundance through time, we summed all juveniles and adults across seasons and land classes.

E. coqui abundance.
We analyze census data for the Puerto Rican frog E. coqui taken by Woolbright (29, 30) between 1987 and 1997 at study areas n