Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest for 2019-Mar-12 today archive

Contents

  1. You May Have Forgotten Foursquare, But It Didn't Forget You
  2. Scientists Have Discovered a Shape That Blocks All Sound
  3. Google's New Voice Recognition System Works Instantly and Offline (If You Have a Pixel)
  4. Microsoft Brings DirectX 12 To Windows 7
  5. Chrome 73 Arrives With Support For Hardware Media Keys, PWAs and Dark Mode On Mac
  6. Facebook's Cryptocurrency Could Be a $19 Billion Revenue Opportunity, Barclays Says
  7. Windows 10 Could Automatically Uninstall Buggy Windows Updates
  8. Portland City Council May Ask FCC To Investigate Health Risks of 5G Networks
  9. Researchers Find Critical Backdoor In Swiss Online Voting System
  10. Fast-Growth Chickens Produce New Industry Woe: 'Spaghetti Meat'
  11. Intel CPU Shortages To Worsen in Q2 2019: Research
  12. Boeing To Make Key Change in 737 MAX Cockpit Software
  13. Actresses, Business Leaders, and Other Wealthy Parents Charged in Massive College Admissions Scandal
  14. Amazon's Alexa has 80,000 Apps -- and No Runaway Hit
  15. Microsoft Will Now Pester Windows 7 Users To Upgrade To Windows 10 With Pop-ups
  16. Chrome's Lite Pages Speed Up HTTPS Webpages on Slow Connections
  17. Node.js and JS Foundations Are Merging To Form OpenJS
  18. Microsoft is Preparing To Test Android App-Mirroring on Windows 10
  19. Firefox Send Lets You Share 1GB Files With No Strings Attached
  20. Tim Berners-Lee Says World Wide Web Must Emerge From 'Adolescence'
  21. Microsoft Asks Users To Call Windows 10 Devs About ALT+TAB Feature
  22. US Tells Germany To Stop Using Huawei Equipment Or Lose Some Intelligence Access
  23. Surprising Discovery Hints Sonic Waves Carry Mass

Alterslash picks the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

You May Have Forgotten Foursquare, But It Didn't Forget You

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nj_peeps shares an excerpt from a report via Wired: [Foursquare cofounder Dennis Crowley says the company is working on a new game.] Think Candyland, but instead of fantasy locations like Lollipop Woods, the game's virtual board includes place categories associated with New York City neighborhoods. There's a Midtown Bar, a Downtown Movie Theatre, Brooklyn Coffeeshop, Uptown Park, and so on. As in Candyland, you move your game piece forward by drawing cards. But in Crowley's version, the cards are the habits and locations of real people whose data has been turned into literal pawns in the game. Foursquare knows where their phones are in real time, because it powers many widely used apps, from Twitter and Uber to TripAdvisor and AccuWeather. These people aren't playing Crowley's game, but their real-world movements animate it: If one of them goes into a bar in midtown, for example, the person playing the game would get a Midtown Bar card.

Ask someone about Foursquare and they'll probably think of the once-hyped social media company, known for gamifying mobile check-ins and giving recommendations. But the Foursquare of today is a location-data giant. During an interview with NBC in November, the company's CEO, Jeff Glueck, said that only Facebook and Google rival Foursquare in terms of location-data precision. You might think you don't use Foursquare, but chances are you do. Foursquare's technology powers the geofilters in Snapchat, tagged tweets on Twitter; it's in Uber, Apple Maps, Airbnb, WeChat, and Samsung phones, to name a few.

A Strange Game

By alvinrod • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

Use a smart phone: get tracked

By DogDude • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
There's no way around it. If you use a "smart" phone, you're being tracked by at least a handful of shitty companies. If you don't like it, your only option is not to use a "smart" phone.

Scientists Have Discovered a Shape That Blocks All Sound

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Scientists have developed an "acoustic meta-material" that can catch certain frequencies passing through the air and reflect them back toward their source. When a loudspeaker was placed into one end of a PVC pipe with a 3D-printed ring of the metamaterial, the ring " cut 94% of the sound blasting from the speaker, enough to make it inaudible to the human ear," reports Fast Company. From the report: Typical acoustic paneling works differently, absorbing sound and turning the vibrations into heat. But what's particularly trippy is that this muffler is completely open. Air and light can travel through it -- just sound cannot. The implications for architecture and interior design are remarkable, because these metamaterials could be applied to the built environment in many different ways. For instance, they could be stacked to build soundproof yet transparent walls. Cubicles will never be the same.

The researchers also believe that HVAC systems could be fitted with these silencers, and drones could have their turbines muted with such rings. Even in MRI machines, which can be harrowingly loud for patients trapped in a small space, could be quieted. There's really no limit to the possibilities, but it does sound like these silencers will need to be tailored to circumstance. "The idea is that we can now mathematically design an object that can blocks the sounds of anything," says Boston University professor Xin Zhang, in a press release.
You can see a demo of the noise cancellation device here.

Link to the paper

By paazin • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Here's the paper published in Phys. Rev. B 99 in case anyone is interested: https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.024302

Helical tuned sound absorbers?

By misnohmer • Score: 3 • Thread

Sounds like a helical version of this: http://www.deicon.com/tuned-ac...

Oh, really?

By Hallux-F-Sinister • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Only for extremely small values of "All".

Scientists Have Discovered a Shape That Blocks All Sound

No they haven't. At least, not according to the linked video in the article. It quieted it down quite a bit, but I could still hear it EASILY with the ring in place. It wasn't inaudible, not even CLOSE. Since they didn't put a ring of the same dimensions and material but in the shape of a simple, smooth, right, regular cylinder with a right, regular, cylindrical hole through it, centered and along the same axis as the material cylinder, (just like the "magic" ring but without the magic shape on the end,) while the speaker was generating the same sound at the same volume, to COMPARE it with. At least, that is, not in THAT video.

So this really is a non-story. Even if it quiets it quite a bit, it also occupies a LOT of the space, which RESTRICTS airflow, and likely adds a good bit of weight. (Imagine how big, thick, and therefore HEAVY it would have to be to fit the inner diameter of a big turbofan engine on a jet aircraft!) Then the output would need one too, and I understand the exhaust is pretty warm on one of those things, or at least can be. That may cause additional engineering challenges and cost, either of which could easily end up being insurmountable.

By the way, reflecting sound energy doesn't DESTROY it. It's ENERGY. Even if it DID work and DIDN'T add too much weight, and DIDN'T occlude the flow of air into and out of the engine to an extent that makes the plane unable even to take off under its own power, AND heat from the engine's exhaust wasn't a problem, etc., then the SOUND ENERGY being reflected INTO the engine will cause it to heat up even more. What are you going to do with all that extra heat? It's a LOT of noise, (and therefore, likely, a LOT of HEAT). Oh, and you're going to need a pair of these rings for EACH engine. How much weight will the required additional cooling cost? So you obviously will need much bigger, much more powerful (and noisier) engines. That will necessitate even bigger, thicker, sturdier rings, which will cause additional heat buildup... ETC.

If you're wondering how MUCH heat, well, it's actually pretty easy to work it out. Have you ever stood anywhere near a big turbofan jet engine, operating at, or at least near full power? Now imagine having to reproduce that sound, that same volume of noise, the same intensity... and while producing the same note, with a SPEAKER system. How big of an amplifier, in terms of Watts, would you need to do that? THAT'S how much sound power, (assuming you are somehow reflecting ALL of it,) we're talking about here. That much power is going to get trapped at BOTH ends of this hypothetical muffled engine. Where TF is it going to GO?

I see this tech as largely an interesting oddity, and will most likely come to nothing of any particular significance whatsoever in the world. Now maybe it MIGHT have some terrestrial applications, but don't look for this to be on aircraft anytime soon... that's my prediction.

Re:Link to the paper

By Florian Weimer • Score: 4 • Thread

The third images from the preview indicates that there is only dampening by 14 dB. This doesn't seem like much.

If this works by reflection, is it even possible to stack more of these in several layers to achieve higher dampening (because the layers would themselves reflect the sound)?

This is why a Chevy volt can be quiet on gas

By technosaurus • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
Like the diesel electric trains, the Chevy Volt (IIRC), is only powered by electric motor. The gas engine only provides electricity to the motor/batteries, thus allowing it to operate at the most efficient engine speed when the battery is low. Since it only operates in a very narrow range, the exhaust can be finely tuned for that frequency. From what I have heard though, there is still room for improvement in this area... I'd really like to see a Sterling engine version though

Google's New Voice Recognition System Works Instantly and Offline (If You Have a Pixel)

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Google's latest speech recognition works entirely offline, eliminating the delay that many other voice assistants have to return your query. "The delay occurs because your voice, or some data derived from it anyway, has to travel from your phone to the servers of whoever operates the service, where it is analyzed and sent back a short time later," reports TechCrunch. "This can take anywhere from a handful of milliseconds to multiple entire seconds (what a nightmare!), or longer if your packets get lost in the ether." The only major downside with Google's new system is its limited availability. As of right now, it's only available to people with a Pixel smartphone. From the report: Why not just do the voice recognition on the device? There's nothing these companies would like more, but turning voice into text on the order of milliseconds takes quite a bit of computing power. It's not just about hearing a sound and writing a word -- understanding what someone is saying word by word involves a whole lot of context about language and intention. Your phone could do it, for sure, but it wouldn't be much faster than sending it off to the cloud, and it would eat up your battery. But steady advancements in the field have made it plausible to do so, and Google's latest product makes it available to anyone with a Pixel.

Google's work on the topic, documented in a paper here, built on previous advances to create a model small and efficient enough to fit on a phone (it's 80 megabytes, if you're curious), but capable of hearing and transcribing speech as you say it. No need to wait until you've finished a sentence to think whether you meant "their" or "there" -- it figures it out on the fly. So what's the catch? Well, it only works in Gboard, Google's keyboard app, and it only works on Pixels, and it only works in American English. So in a way this is just kind of a stress test for the real thing.
"Given the trends in the industry, with the convergence of specialized hardware and algorithmic improvements, we are hopeful that the techniques presented here can soon be adopted in more languages and across broader domains of application," writes Google in their blog post.

Battery

By darkain • Score: 3 • Thread

I love how their reasoning is battery life... The mic is already turned on 24/7 to listen to the "OK Google" command, so that doesn't change. And then the actual audio is only about 1-5 seconds in length that takes about the same amount of time to process. Having the CPU at max for such a short period of time does absolutely nothing to significantly drain the battery. Do they think that having the radio turned on to transmit/receive data from the cloud magically uses less data?

TechCrunch neophytes?

By Etcetera • Score: 3 • Thread

Whomever wrote this story speaks with the voice of someone who seems like they couldn't possibly understand why *anyone* would prioritize data-stays-on-device, non-cloud, privacy-related living.

Is this what the new generation of tech journalists is like? With no conception of out-dated functions like data locality and operational independence? Someone who couldn't imagine why someone would download local audio instead of streaming it from their cloud service?

Re:the reason offline function is available..

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

early dragon naturallyspeaking worked on lowly 486dx and pentiums running windows 95 and nt 4

That was just speech-to-text. Google is going much further than that, with semantic understanding of what you are saying. That requires way more compute power. On a cell phone, this has only been viable with sub-second response times since mobile GPUs got decent support for CUDA and OpenCL.

Yea, lots of power

By Khyber • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

"but turning voice into text on the order of milliseconds takes quite a bit of computing power."

Uhh, Dragon Naturally Speaking worked on fucking Pentium II processors. It only takes a lot of computing power today because nobody knows how to fucking code.

Microsoft Brings DirectX 12 To Windows 7

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Microsoft has announced a form of DirectX 12 that will support Windows 7. "Now before you get too excited, this is currently only enabled for World of Warcraft; and indeed it's not slated to be a general-purpose solution like DX12 on Win10," reports AnandTech. "Instead, Microsoft has stated that they are working with a few other developers to bring their DX12 games/backends to Windows 7 as well. As a consumer it's great to see them supporting their product ten years after it launched, but with the entire OS being put out to pasture in nine months, it seems like an odd time to be dedicating resources to bringing it new features." From the report: For some background, Microsoft's latest DirectX API was created to remove some of the CPU bottlenecks for gaming by allowing for developers to use low-level programming conventions to shift some of the pressure points away from the CPU. This was a response to single-threaded CPU performance plateauing, making complex graphical workloads increasingly CPU-bounded. There's many advantages to using this API over traditional DX11, especially for threading and draw calls. But, Microsoft made the decision long ago to only support DirectX 12 on Windows 10, with its WDDM 2.0 driver stack.

Today's announcement is a pretty big surprise on a number of levels. If Microsoft had wanted to back-port DX12 to Windows 7, you would have thought they'd have done it before Windows 7 entered its long-term servicing state. As it is, even free security patches for Windows 7 are set to end on January 14, 2020, which is well under a year away, and the company is actively trying to migrate users to Windows 10 to avoid having a huge swath of machines sitting in an unpatched state. In fact, they are about to add a pop-up notification to Windows 7 to let users know that they are running out of support very soon. So adding a big feature like DX12 now not only risks undermining their own efforts to migrate people away from Windows 7, but also adding a new feature well after Windows 7 entered long-term support. It's just bizarre.

Designed to Break?

By rtb61 • Score: 3 • Thread

M$ has a pretty bad reputation at end of cycle, breaking programs, blocking use of documents with the next version, doing all sorts of crap. DX12 run on windows 7 at your risk, you can bet when it break all over the place, M$ will say but windows 7 is no longer supported.

Re:MS must think win7 will still be around for lon

By aix tom • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

They probably found out, that their new Nag-Popup needs DirectX 12 to work.

Re:Only WoW?

By ledow • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I refer you to Win32s and WinG, as well as several components of Games for Windows Live.

If you're not familiar with those, they were all released by MIcrosoft, but not part of the core OS, but required to run a multitude of bits of software, never quite elevating the underlying system to the realms of full compatibility across the board but just bodging it enough that some "big money" software developer could bribe Microsoft into expanding their market a little, temporarily.

GfW Live, for example, worked fine on XP for many years. Then it stopped. Then it worked fine on 7 for many years. Then there were problems. All to do with underlying technology upgrades, (e.g. .NET Framework, etc.) that it was reliant on, but yet never quite pushing you out (I got Toy Soldiers on Steam to continue to run on XP with GfW Live by dropping in some DLLs available from the Microsoft site, but it was far from easy - if you were a casual user it was basically impossible after a certain period of time as GfW Live demanded things that only Windows 7 actually had).

This is going to be a "mini-DX12" to literally run WoW because WoW have asked for it. That's it. No different to how Microsoft never actually shipped a proper OpenGL DLL for many years.

Microsoft won't give you full DX12, even though it's perfectly viable, because they know you then won't upgrade past 7 for another few years. What they'll do is throw you a bone, because WoW are basically paying them to, that'll work for a small subset of programs. It'll work for a couple of years but not for enough to keep you "DX12 compatible" in any significant way.

This is the biggest problem with Microsoft.... planned obsolescence and pretending to give a damn.

A few takeaways are:

By Artem S. Tashkinov • Score: 3 • Thread
  • Microsoft can support Windows 7 for as long as they want.
  • Microsoft can relatively easily backport pretty much every underlying technology from Windows 10 to Windows 7.
  • Microsoft doesn't do that because Windows 10 gives them so much power over your PC and your data. Also, the way updates are implemented in Windows 10, Microsoft can forcefully keep every Windows 10 user on the latest release of the OS which is ultimately good for them.

Having said that there's a major problem with this update mechanism: OEMs will eventually stop releasing up to date drivers for new Windows 10 releases and you'll end up with a Windows 10 PC/laptop where some piece of your equipment no longer works.

Chrome 73 Arrives With Support For Hardware Media Keys, PWAs and Dark Mode On Mac

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Google today launched Chrome 73 for Windows, Mac, and Linux. The release includes support for hardware media keys, PWAs and dark mode on Mac, and the usual slew of developer features. You can update to the latest version now using Chrome's built-in updater or download it directly from google.com/chrome. Chrome 73 supports Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) on macOS. These apps install and behave like native apps (they don't show the address bar or tabs). Google killed off Chrome apps last year and has been focusing on PWAs ever since. Adding Mac support means Chrome now supports PWAs on all desktop and mobile platforms: Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and iOS. Chrome now also supports dark mode on Apple's macOS; dark mode for Windows is on the way, the team promises.

The VentureBeat report includes a long list of developer features included in this release, as well as all the security fixes found by external researchers. Chrome 73 implements a total of 60 security fixes.

The PWA support is pretty good.

By acroyear • Score: 3 • Thread

Basically, you hit the 3-dot menu and if all the features are right (manifest, icons, https, and service worker), you'll see the option "Install ...". Doing so will add it to your Apps collection, and then when you open it, it'll open in its own window, with its own Dock icon that you can pin.

Instant 'app', just add water.

Now with more

By AHuxley • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
ad support.

Facebook's Cryptocurrency Could Be a $19 Billion Revenue Opportunity, Barclays Says

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Barclays internet analyst Ross Sandler says the new cryptocurrency that Facebook is working on could be part of a multibillion-dollar revenue opportunity. "Sandler forecasted as much as $19 billion in additional revenue by 2021 from 'Facebook Coin,'" reports CNBC. "Conservatively, the firm sees a base-case of an incremental $3 billion in revenue from a successful cryptocurrency implementation. 'Merely establishing this revenue stream starts to change the story for Facebook shares in our view,' Sandler said." From the report: Facebook is reportedly developing a cryptocurrency for global payments that will be tied to the value of traditional currencies and available to use through its messenger "WhatsApp," according to Bloomberg and The New York Times. Facebook has not publicly commented on the reports. Price volatility has been one major roadblock to bitcoin's widespread adoption as an everyday payment option. But Facebook's digital currency, a "stable coin," would likely be less attractive to speculators because of its fixed price tied to a currency like the U.S. dollar.

"Any attempt to build out revenue streams outside of advertising, especially those that don't abuse user privacy are likely to be well-received by Facebook's shareholders," Sandler said. Barclays based its Facebook revenue estimates off of Google's digital distribution service, which is also the official app store for Android's operating system. "Google Play," as it's called, generates $6 in "net" revenue per user now. Facebook could see a "similar cadence," across its nearly 3 billion users in 2021. A Facebook virtual currency would allow for more premium content to find its way back to Facebook, Sandler said, as companies re-establish themselves on the social network as a strategic partner.

Winklevos' ghost

By Arzaboa • Score: 3 • Thread

What happens when you cross one of the largest companies on the planet and a new currency?

As much as 'social media' changed the face of democracy in the last few years, this could have a much bigger impact. Just imagine if people in countries that do not have stable currencies had a choice. People may trust 'FBcoin' more than they ever trusted Bitcoin.

With all of that being said, for a company that doesn't seem to respect anyone's privacy, this could be a real doozy.

--
The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking. - Albert Einstein

exchanging one indirect value symbol for another

By Noah Draper • Score: 3 • Thread
Hey how about you turn your abstract voucher in for this abstract voucher written for slightly less? God people are stupid cuz it's probably going to work. In the end that 19 billion in revenue represents a 19 billion dollar in mislabeled charity to Facebook. We already have ways to exchange money. I already have ways to do it instantly. This is a stupid redundant project that unfortunately will probably not be nipped in the bud.

Re:Good

By mattyj • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

They can't even manage to keep my email address private, now I'm going to trust my finances to their imaginary currency that nobody wants? Sure thing. Let me sign up for that right away.

I wonder what the pitch is: "It's like US dollars, except only online, and harder to spend."

Can't wait until we have entire exchanges based on made-up , house-brand currency. Facebook Dollars, Amazon Samoleans, Starbucks Bucks. I feel like people have tried building a system of imaginary currency before. Can't recall the name because why would anyone know the name of that any more.

Re:FaceCoin

By feedayeen • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

This will likely end up being called FaceCoin, because two syllables is easy to say.

There isn't yet a cryptocoin called this, but I expect one will be created in a day. Then Facebook will have to buy them out to get the name. Call it coin-squatting.

FaceCoin exists: https://coinmarketcap.com/curr...

USD, not cryptocurrency

By codebonobo • Score: 3 • Thread
A stable coin fixed to USD is simply fiat credits held by a custodial account which is a very old business practice. The additional revenue will come from fees and services people pay to facebook when they buy these credits or "gift cards". Many services like youtube already have tipping with fiat doing this so there is nothing unique except them using the term "crytocurrency" as a marketing gimmick.

Windows 10 Could Automatically Uninstall Buggy Windows Updates

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Microsoft is reportedly working on a new functionality that will automatically remove botched updates from Windows 10 to fix startup issues and other bugs preventing the PC from booting. "The support document was quietly published a couple of hours ago and for some reasons, Microsoft has also blocked the search engines from crawling or indexing the page," reports Windows Latest. "In the document, Microsoft explains that Windows may automatically install updates in order to keep your device secure and smooth." From the report: Due to various reasons, including software and driver compatibility issues, Windows Updates are vulnerable to mistakes and hardware errors. In some cases, Windows Update may fail to install. After installing a recent update, if your PC experience startup failures and automatic recovery attempts are unsuccessful, Windows may try to resolve the failure by uninstalling recently installed updates. In this case, users may receive a notification with the following message: "We removed some recently installed updates to recover your device from a startup failure."

Microsoft says that Windows will also automatically block the problematic updates from installing automatically for the next 30 days. During these 30 days, Microsoft and its partners will investigate the failure and attempt to fix the issues. When the issues are fixed, Windows will again try to install the updates. Users still have the freedom to reinstall the updates. If you believe that the update should not be removed, you can manually reinstall the driver or quality updates which were uninstalled earlier.

Will it get so advanced...

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Will it get so advanced that it eventually just uninstalls Windows 10 altogether?

Ba dum DUM

I'll be here all week, folks..

FFS, Microsoft

By DigitAl56K • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

You force updates on people seemingly non-stop, several of them cause huge problems, including data loss, and now you're building functionality to remove botched updates?

Here is a radical idea for you: Give us back control of when to apply updates.

Not defer them for a few days. Not select a slower update track. Put a damn setting that makes it our own responsibility to go click the update button again.

enh, maybe not

By roc97007 • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Windows 10 (Windows in general, actually) has had a bad record on automatic installs. I don't think I want it automatically uninstalling anything.

I understand what they're trying to do, but as someone else said, the hot setup is not to push out buggy installs in the first place.

It'll work this time??

By Voyager529 • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

So, MS has had this since Windows 7...but every time it tried pulling out a failed update, it would either fail to remove (leaving the machine in an unbootable state), or pull it out, then reinstall it on the next reboot, then fail, then revert, and so on...also leaving a machine basically unusable.

This isn't what Windows 10 needs.

What Windows 10 needs is simple: security-only updates with a 10MB maximum per update, references to actual KB articles that explicitly state the exploit they mitigate, and a return to 'service packs', released annually. Want to call them 'feature updates'? fine. Support security updates on service packs N, N-1, and N-2, and allow users to permanently opt out of service packs and have manual installers available for those service packs, so users can do the major updates on their own terms.

Even the handful of people who actually care about the new features being added to Win10 are either in the Insider program (where they opt into this-might-break-stuff updates), or else they consider those new features secondary to existing functionality.

It's really that simple.

Portland City Council May Ask FCC To Investigate Health Risks of 5G Networks

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Inverse: Fearing unknown health risks, members of the City Council in Portland, Oregon, will vote Wednesday to oppose the rollout of 5G wireless networks. In a proposed resolution, Mayor Ted Wheeler, along with Commissioners Chloe Eudaly and Amanda Fritz, write that there's evidence suggesting wireless networks can cause health problems -- including cancer. They express concern that the Federal Communications Commission has not conducted enough research to demonstrate that 5G networks are safe, while at the same time prohibiting state and local governments from passing their own regulations on telecommunications technology. And while Wheeler, Eudaly, and Fritz are correct about the FCC's power to dictate how state and local governments manage wireless networks, the connection between 5G networks and cancer is a lot more complicated than they say it is.

"There is evidence to suggest that exposure to radio frequency emissions generated by wireless technologies could contribute to adverse health conditions such as cancer," reads the proposed resolution. This evidence comes from a large-scale study conducted by the National Toxicology Program (NTP), a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services. The final results of this study, published in November 2018, showed a strong association between the type of radiation used for mobile phone signals and certain types of cancerous tumors in lab rats. But that's where the situation gets tough.
The NTP study, which took place over 10 years and involved exposing more than 7,000 rats and mice to radio-frequency radiation, focused on signals used by wireless technology under the 2G and 3G standards. It's nearly impossible to say whether these results will apply to 5G hardware.

"Since the available research doesn't address 5G, the Portland City Council's resolution demands that the FCC embark on another such research project to assess the health effects of 5G," reports Inverse. "Presumably, it would take just as long to conduct another study on the hypothesized connection between 5G and cancer, but by that time, the industry will almost certainly have moved on to 6G -- or 7G."

Re:Say isn't this the same city with anti-vaxxers?

By Solandri • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Portland is actually the least religious city in the U.S.

This would appear to support something I've suspected for a while now: That we seem to be hard-wired to reach conclusions based on faith. And that when people ditch faith in religion, it doesn't make them less "religious." They just put their faith into something else, be it anti-vaxx theories or 9/11 conspiracies or atheism. (Yes atheism is a faith. You cannot prove a negative, at least not without investigating every single possibility, so you cannot realistically prove there is no god. You can be agnostic without needing faith - uncertain or doubtful if there is a god. But to be atheist - convinced that there is no god - requires a leap of faith.)

We have been over this NTP study.

By capedgirardeau • Score: 3 • Thread

We have been over this study, an article I submitted about it last year was discussed at length and the general conclusion was the study really showed that generally it was safe, but if they generated enough end points, you could get some statistically significant effects.

1. That is known as p-hacking and is recognized as not a best practice.

2. The effects that did appear, were not dose dependent so likely the result of p-hacking.

I think in a few of their end points, the exposure was shown to be protective, that is how you know the p-hacking basically identified some randomness, but the cohort was so small, it had statistical significance.

Proven ill effects

By PPH • Score: 3 • Thread

Cell phone transmissions make city councils nuts.

Re:This is why...

By green1 • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
Unfortunately they'd take the wrong lesson from "the boy who cried wolf". I've already had this argument, and they say that in the end there really was a wolf, so it's the fault of the others for not believing him every time, not the fault of the boy who cried when there was no wolf.

The issue here is that no matter how many times they cry it, there will be no wolf. It's more like the "boy who cried sasquatch!"

it doesn't matter if it's real

By Noah Draper • Score: 3 • Thread
It doesn't matter whether it's technically safe or not, what if Portland just doesn't want 5G, and instead of arguing about all the reasons why are just taking whatever relevant actions to stall or prevent it? There is nothing wrong with that. We haven't even saturated the limits of 4G yet, and it's quite possible there are additional concerns of somehow this is going to cost the town money or increase general costs. if her whole town is set up to operate off of 4 g, and it's working, then by not allowing 5G, I can continue to keep their town operated the way they like it. Newer and faster does not always equal better and if you're satisfied with the way things are,well if it's not broke don't fix it. There's no reason why things have to be the same everywhere. That's the whole reason for having different places in order to have the option of different ways to do things without being questioned.

Researchers Find Critical Backdoor In Swiss Online Voting System

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An international group of researchers who have been examining the source code for an internet voting system that Switzerland plans to roll out this year have found a critical flaw in the code that would allow someone to alter votes without detection. New submitter eatmorekix shares a report: The cryptographic backdoor exists in a part of the system that is supposed to verify that all of the ballots and votes counted in an election are the same ones that voters cast. But the flaw could allow someone to swap out all of the legitimate ballots and replace them with fraudulent ones, all without detection. "The vulnerability is astonishing," said Matthew Green, who teaches cryptography at Johns Hopkins University and did not do the research but read the researchers' report. "In normal elections, there is no single person who could undetectably defraud the entire election. But in this system they built, there is a party who could do that."

The researchers provided their findings last week to Swiss Post, the country's national postal service, which developed the system with the Barcelona-based company Scytl. Swiss Post said in a statement the researchers provided Motherboard and that the Swiss Post plans to publish online on Tuesday, that the researchers were correct in their findings and that it had asked Scytl to fix the issue. It also downplayed the vulnerability, however, saying that to exploit it, an attacker would need control over Swiss Postâ(TM)s secured IT infrastructure "as well as help from several insiders with specialist knowledge of Swiss Post or the cantons."

Re:One vulnerability less

By sycodon • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Online voting is folly. Even mail in voting lacks adequate chain of custody policies.

Trust, but verity

By Wild_dog! • Score: 3 • Thread

There must always be a paper trail.
Then there is less likelihood that a breach won't be detected and an actual manual vote count is possible.

would need control ... as well as help

By grep -v '.*' * • Score: 3 • Thread

an attacker would need control over Swiss Post's secured IT infrastructure "as well as help from several insiders with specialist knowledge

I've got some chocolate to trade for a password or two. Or if not that, maybe some cheese?

Science Daily: Social engineering: Password in exchange for chocolate

Don't bother

By rickb928 • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The state of the art is inadequate to ensure secure, valid, accurate vote acquisition and tabulation. And there is no reason to expect it will be any time soon.

Just stop. Those most interested in electronic voting are either profiting from the deployment, or profiting from manipulating the results.

Re:Swiss cheese

By Immerman • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Hey, still beats the U.S. process, where every time a hole is found everybody ignores it, and possibly tries to silence those trying to raise awareness of the problem.

Fast-Growth Chickens Produce New Industry Woe: 'Spaghetti Meat'

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An anonymous reader shares a report: Chicken companies spent decades breeding birds to grow rapidly and develop large breast muscles. Now the industry is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to deal with the consequences ranging from squishy fillets known as "spaghetti meat," because they pull apart easily, to leathery ones known as "woody breast." [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; alternative source.] The abnormalities pose no food safety risk, researchers and industry officials say. They are suspected side effects of genetic selection that now allows meat companies to raise a 6.3-pound bird in 47 days, roughly twice as fast as 50 years ago, according to the National Chicken Council.

That efficiency drive has helped U.S. meat giants such as Tyson Foods, Pilgrim's Pride, Perdue Farms and Sanderson Farms produce a record 42 billion pounds of chicken nuggets, tenders and other products in 2018. Now, it's adding an estimated $200 million or more in annual industry expenses to identify and divert breast fillets that are too tough, too squishy or too striped with bands of white tissue to sell in restaurants or grocery stores, according to researchers at the University of Arkansas.

Why not try free-range chicken?

By Archtech • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Chickens (and other poultry) raised out of doors and allowed to choose their own favourite foods are obviously healthier, happier - and provide far tastier, more healthy meat.

The hideous fallacy of treating farming as an industry has caused an immense amount of unspeakable suffering for animals, while turning out unpleasant, tasteless meat that lacks vital nutrients - and may contain serious health hazards such as dangerous bacteria, viruses and antibiotics.

More is not always better. Cheaper is rarely better. Making very rich people even richer is not the purpose of farming.

Re: Maybe lab grown chicken is best...

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Today's chicken, like most other industrially raised foods has LOST pretty much all flavor.

Much of that is due to their diet of nothing but corn and soybean meal.

Try raising a flock in your backyard, where they can scrounge for insects and worms, and you will get much more flavor. The egg yolks are a deep orange color instead of the pale yellow yolks from battery cage chickens.

Many cities and towns permit small flocks. My hometown (San Jose) allows up to six hens, which is plenty for my family.

Woody breast describes my chicken

By Snotnose • Score: 3 • Thread
I keep getting recipes calling for 6-8 oz chicken breasts. All I can find in my local megamarts are 1+ lb chicken tits. These are hard to cook, I usually end up halving them horizontally, which makes them cook better, but they don't taste better. Frozen chicken tits are iffy as hell, you never know what you're getting when you buy a bag. I've tried smaller chains and still find either 1+ lb over-amped disasters, or bags of frozen whetevs.

If you live in a city, where do you find your normal sized chicken boobs?

That said, I much prefer thighs over breasts. They haven't been bred to ginormous sizes, are cheaper (people are stupid), and taste better than the boobies.

Re:Go vegetarian or vegan

By jpaine619 • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
It's all good. When the economy collapses, and civilization falls shortly thereafter, I'm gonna be hunting healthy vegans.. No GMOs/pesticides for me, just tasty and healthy soylent green made from real vegans.

I've been eating woody chicken for years.

By No Longer an AC • Score: 3 • Thread

Upon seeing this at first I thought they just put the woody breasts in frozen microwave meals, then I realized there's no way that's breast meat.

But nobody eats that garbage because it tastes good. I eat it because I'm lazy and I want my food in about 5 minutes. I don't think it matters what brand you buy. it's all the same chicken.

I don't think I've had spaghetti chicken, but I'm intrigued.

Intel CPU Shortages To Worsen in Q2 2019: Research

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Shortages of Intel's CPUs are expected to worsen in the second quarter compared to the first as demand for Chromebooks, which are mostly equipped with Intel's entry-level processors, enters the high period, according to Digitimes Research. From the report: Digitimes Research expects Intel CPUs' supply gap to shrink to 2-3% in the first quarter with Core i3 taking over Core i5 as the series hit hardest by shortages. The shortages started in August 2018 with major brands including Hewlett-Packard (HP), Dell and Lenovo all experiencing supply gaps of over 5% at their worst moment. Although most market watchers originally believed that the shortages would gradually ease after vendors completed their inventory preparations for the year-end holidays, the supply gap in the fourth quarter of 2018 still stayed at the same level as that in the third as HP launched a second wave of CPU inventory buildup during the last quarter of the year, prompting other vendors to follow suit. Taiwan-based vendors were underprepared and saw their supply gaps expand from a single digit percentage previously to over 10% in the fourth quarter. With all the impacts, the notebook market continued suffering a 4-5% supply gap in the fourth quarter of 2018.

Microsoft making the problem worse

By xack • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
By ending Windows 7. A lot of perfectly good computers will be junked and will put a strain on intel and amd for "new" PCs.

Sounds like a great time...

By SuperKendall • Score: 3 • Thread

...for some companies to switch to ARM.

Who is ready, I wonder?

I don't see a problem. I see the opposite

By melted • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

AMD Ryzen chips are pretty great right now, on both the low and the high end, and there's a significant update coming out mid-year. Moreover, at the low end they ship with much better integrated GPUs. And they're a bit cheaper, too.

Boeing To Make Key Change in 737 MAX Cockpit Software

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Boeing is making an extensive change to the flight-control system in the 737 MAX aircraft implicated in October's Lion Air crash in Indonesia, going beyond what many industry officials familiar with the discussions had anticipated. From a report: The change was in the works before a second plane of the same make crashed in Africa last weekend -- and comes as world-wide unease about the 737 MAX's safety grows. The change would mark a major shift from how Boeing originally designed a stall-prevention feature in the aircraft, which were first delivered to airlines in 2017. U.S. aviation regulators are expected to mandate the change by the end of April.

Boeing publicly released details about the planned 737 MAX software update late Monday [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; alternative source]. A company spokesman confirmed the update would use multiple sensors, or data feeds, in MAX's stall-prevention system -- instead of the current reliance on a single sensor. The change was prompted by preliminary results from the Indonesian crash investigation indicating that erroneous data from a single sensor, which measures the angle of the plane's nose, caused the stall-prevention system to misfire. Then, a series of events put the aircraft into a dangerous dive.

Re:The problem is normal and alternate control law

By uncqual • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

A description of alternate law as it applies to aviation can be found here although this focuses on Airbus.

Re:I guess the incredibly obvious question is...

By uncqual • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

My lay person's understanding...

In order to increase fuel efficiency on the 737 MAX, the engine fan diameter was increased. These "underwing" engines would have been too close to the ground if mounted as on other 737 models. Thus, the engineers moved the engines forward and upward to achieve necessary ground clearance. This, along with some other changes, moved the force of thrust forward which made the plane more prone to lift its nose too high and stall. To guard against this, Boeing introduced the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) which activates automatically when the autopilot is off in some conditions which include when the angle of attack (AOA) is too high. The MCAS system, when needed, attempts to prevent a stall by adjusting the horizontal stabilizer trim upward and will do this over, I believe, about 10 seconds or until the pilot overrides it or the angle of attack is within limits. If the pilot activates the trim control switch on the yoke, MCAS will be disabled -- but, five seconds after the switch is released, MCAS will reengage if the conditions call for it (esp. AOA). When MCAS is altering the trim, the manual trim controls on each side of the center "console" will be spinning away and, if a pilot looks down, they will see that motion as there is a white stripe extending outward from the center in order to make the movement obvious.

The best speculation I've heard about the Lion Air crash was that there was a problem with one of the AOA sensors. There are two such sensors - one on both side of the 737 Max.

As in most crashes, due to the redundancy of systems and procedures, it's rarely one thing that causes a crash but rather a cascade of events.

There had been problems with at least one of the AOAs on previous flights but maintenance attempts appear not to have solved the problem. So, first there was a failure of maintenance, but of course AOA sensors will fail from time to time, so one can't blame the crash on that failure.

I've not heard how MCAS handled conflicting AOA sensor readings but I suspect this is one of the big areas of change that they will push in the April "patch". But, it's likely that the failing AOA caused the MCAS to activate when it shouldn't have and push the nose down by adjusting the trim - but this actually pushed the plane's nose down too far. When the pilots tried to correct, they ended up disabling MCAS (although perhaps not explicitly aware that they were doing so) only to have it start undoing what they had accomplished five seconds after they released the trim control on the yolk - and this was a vicious loop.

Had the pilot recognized what was happening, they simply would have ran the "runaway trim" procedure (which would have disabled MCAS and some other automatic trim controls completely via a switch on the center "console") and flown the plane manually with no problems. Unfortunately, the pilots likely didn't figure out what was causing the problem and failed to execute the necessary procedure. So, that was a pilot error (and, that's probably what will be determined to be the main problem here, with contributing factors).

There is much debate on why the Lion Air pilots may have failed to recognize what was going on. Many pilots and their union claim that they were not told about the existence of MCAS. Boeing hasn't been talking a lot, but they seem to assert that there was no need to train the pilots on MCAS beyond what the manuals/training did as it was a classic "runaway trim" scenario and the training was sufficient to cause the pilots to detect that case and initiate the proper procedure. Boeing did, however, issue documentation updates to operators worldwide soon after the Lion Air crash.

After Boeing issued the documentation updates, every 737 MAX pilot should have been fully aware of MCAS and what to do if was doing the wrong thing. This, coupled with the witness reports that the Ethiopian Airline 737 MAX that crashed was spewing smoke and fire from the back of the plane a

The 2 crashes are even more related

By hcs_$reboot • Score: 3 • Thread
Something struck me regarding latitudes: the Air Lion crash was 6 degrees South (Djakarta), the Ethiopian crash was 9 degrees North (Addis Ababa) ; both flights were close to the Equator (symmetrically). Could have something to do with sensors reliability.

Re:I guess the incredibly obvious question is...

By 140Mandak262Jamuna • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
It raises the question, does not beg the question.

Re: I guess the incredibly obvious question is..

By Hognoxious • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

There is an option to disable the system.

It's a button in the aft toilet under a locked flap with "beware of the leopard" written on it.

Actresses, Business Leaders, and Other Wealthy Parents Charged in Massive College Admissions Scandal

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Federal prosecutors charged dozens of people on Tuesday in a major college admission scandal that involved wealthy parents, including Hollywood celebrities and prominent business leaders, paying bribes to get their children into elite American universities. From a report: Federal officials have charged dozens of well-heeled parents, including actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin, in what the Justice Department says was a multimillion-dollar scheme to cheat college admissions standards. The parents allegedly paid a consultant who then fabricated academic and athletic credentials and arranged bribes to help get their children into prestigious universities. "We're talking about deception and fraud -- fake test scores, fake credentials, fake photographs, bribed college officials," said Andrew Lelling, the U.S. attorney for the District of Massachusetts.

Lelling said 33 parents "paid enormous sums" to ensure their children got into schools such as Stanford and Yale, sending money to entities controlled by a man named William Rick Singer in return for falsifying records and obtaining false scores on important tests such as the SAT and ACT. Describing how Singer worked to present his clients' children as elite athletes, Lelling said, "In many instances, Singer helped parents take staged photographs of their children engaged in particular sports. Other times, Singer and his associates used stock photos that they pulled off the Internet -- sometimes Photoshopping the face of the child onto the picture of the athlete" and submitting it to desirable schools.

Re:This is news?

By jcr • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

they were simply Ayn Rand followers

Oh yeah, Hollywood is full of Objectivists. Totally.

Putz.

-jcr

Comes Around Again

By Jim Sadler • Score: 3 • Thread
In the 1950s and 1960s we had several students in my school that had either enormous wealth or power or both. A teacher would be out of his blooming mind to not make certain these kids had really high grades as power and a telephone call could surely end a teacher's employment. I have no way to know if any contact or incentives between teachers and wealthy parents. I believe the system is such that things can happen without anyone ever speaking a word. I do know that our high school football team had one pro player as he tried to recruit me with mention of apartments and cars etc.. He was 21 years old.

Re:This is news?

By HornWumpus • Score: 4 • Thread

Getting the same GPA as Al Gore.

Straight 'gentleman's Bs' for both, no math or science to speak of for eather.

Proof you're paying for access

By ErichTheRed • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I graduated over 20 years ago from a state school. My parents weren't wealthy enough to buy my way into an Ivy League school. I turned out OK, but the fact is that my path could have been a whole lot easier if I had been able to even think about applying to places like this. Once you make it in, that club will never let you fail...the hard part is making it in.

People wonder why these places are $60K+ a year, and accept less than 5% of applicants. It's because getting into one of these schools is a one-way ticket to Easy Street. You get to hobnob with the rich and powerful, they might fund your business ideas, and if you're not an entrepreneur there's a whole class of high-paying jobs open to you too. I live near NYC and investment banks recruit exclusively from the Ivy League for their most prestigious associate positions. My kids are smart but they're not full-scholarship-to-Harvard smart, or athletic enough for a sports scholarship, and I can't pay millions to an admissions broker...so they'll have to suck it up and find a job like the rest of us do instead of having it handed to them.

I always thought wealthy parents just paid millions directly to the school to help build a building in order to secure admissions spots. Is it now so competitive that they have to go to a middleman with connections, and donations aren't enough? It's too bad...these rich parents' kids are taking spots that could otherwise go to someone who would actually use the education for something other than a stepping stone to McKinsey and Company and executive boards.

Re:This is news?

By h33t l4x0r • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

The drunk fool George W Bush attended both Yale and Harvard, proving your point.

Pfff. Those were my safety schools. I guess his dad didn't have enough juice to get him into Wharton.

Amazon's Alexa has 80,000 Apps -- and No Runaway Hit

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Amazon's Echo-branded smart speakers have attracted millions of fans with their ability to play music and respond to queries spoken from across the room. But almost four years after inviting outside developers to write apps for Alexa, Amazon's voice system has yet to offer a transformative new experience. From a report: Surveys show most people use their smart speakers to listen to tunes or make relatively simple requests -- "Alexa, set a timer for 30 minutes" -- while more complicated tasks prompt them to give up and reach for their smartphone. Developers had less trouble creating hits for previous generations of technology.

Think Angry Birds or Pokemon Go on the iPhone, or, decades ago, spreadsheets on the first Windows computers. Amazon counts some 80,000 "skills" -- its name for apps -- in its marketplace. It seems impressive, but at this point in their development, Apple's App Store and the Google Play Store each boasted more than 550,000 applications and minted fortunes for many successful developers. "This platform is almost four years old, and you can't point me to one single killer app," says Mark Einhorn, who created a well-reviewed Alexa game that lets users operate a simulated lemonade stand and is one of 10 developers interviewed for this story.

Re:It's because it's the computer terminal of voic

By jellomizer • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

These smart speakers are just a glorified command line interface (With a little more flexible parser)
The thing that gets people, is the commercials show them using Alexia to do all sorts of cool stuff, only to realize you need to spend $50 for a smart power socket or light switch, $20 for a smart bulb. In short where it really smarts is your wallet.

Apps aren’t good enough

By Kohath • Score: 3 • Thread

Where’s the interactive, conversational app that teaches me Chinese by talking about current events and correcting my pronunciation?

Re:Transformative App

By Rockoon • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Try putting your phone in airplane mode some time and try doing the speech-to-text thing with the Google keyboard. It works!

I think you are assuming that airplane mode works.

Re:Transformative App

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

I think you are assuming that airplane mode works.

RF is not difficult to detect, especially a cm from the transmitter.

You need a better conspiracy theory.

Re:It's because it's the computer terminal of voic

By BringsApples • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

When they get to the point they can emulate a relationship and we can develop feelings for them... then you might have something.

I thought that's what people are for.

Microsoft Will Now Pester Windows 7 Users To Upgrade To Windows 10 With Pop-ups

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Mark Wilson writes: Anyone who is still using Windows 7 doesn't have much longer until the operating system is no longer supported by Microsoft. Come January 14, 2020 only those enterprise customers who are willing to pay for Extended Security Updates will receive any kind of support. Microsoft has already done a lot to encourage Windows 7 diehards to make the move to Windows 10, and now it is stepping things up a gear. Throughout 2019, the company will show pop-up notifications in Windows 7 about making the switch to the latest version of Windows.

offer upgrade for free again...

By roc97007 • Score: 3, Interesting • Thread

...and I might consider it.

Microsoft is EXTREMELY poorly-managed.

By Futurepower(R) • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
My understanding: Microsoft is an EXTREMELY poorly-managed company. I think much more attention should be given to that.

Microsoft trash talks Windows 10 LTSC -- again (Dec. 5, 2018)

Microsoft scrambles to limit PR damage over abusive AI bot Tay. (Nov. 30, 2017)

Guess what country sued Microsoft over abusive user data collection! -- Brazil (Apr. 28, 2018) Bad adjective: "beloved" Windows 10.

Apparently the present worsening management began with Ballmer-osis: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012)

But Microsoft was always abusive, apparently: 'Crush Them': An Oral History of the Lawsuit That Upended Silicon Valley. (May 18, 2018)

Bill Gates still runs Microsoft: Two years ago, during a Jan. 17, 2017 discussion with Charlie Rose, Bill Gates said he spends "15 percent" of his time managing Microsoft. I interpreted that to mean that Gates is still extremely involved and very influential. Did Gates want the mess that is Windows 10?

From the transcript at that Charlie Rose web page:

08:42
"Bill Gates: I'm there about 15 percent of the time. And I get to work just on the R and D part, brainstorming with people, thinking, OK, how are we going to take this artificial intelligence and make it understand, help you use your time better. It's a very exciting time in software. There's five companies that are, you know, in a really strong position. Microsoft is leading in some really cool stuff so --"

It seems obvious that Bill Gates still has a huge amount of overall influence on the management of Microsoft, even if he mostly focuses on other subjects.

Lately, Windows users are not allowed to know what Windows updates actually do. In the past, for example, users were pushed to Windows 10, without giving their permission. So, now Windows 7 customers will be paying for updates that may be abusive.

Some of the many stories about Windows 10 indicate deliberate abuse of customers:

Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC." (Aug. 4, 2015)

Microsoft's Intolerable Windows 10 Aggression (May 27, 2016)

Microsoft is infesting Windows 10 with annoying ads (March 17, 2017)

Microsoft, stop sabotaging Windows 10. (March 21, 2017)

Re:The company will, but I won't

By DickBreath • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
> Because I turned off updates years ago.

Popup dialog decorated with Clippy says:

Hey, it looks like you haven't yet upgraded to Windows 10! I'm from Microsoft and I'm here to help you!

To automatically upgrade to Windows 10 do any one of the following:
* Click Yes, I want to upgrade!
* Click No, I do not want to upgrade
* Click the X to close this popup
* Immediately pull the computer's power cord from the electrical outlet to have Windows 10 automatically installed at the next reboot -- for your convenience!

With Windows 10, nothing can go wrong. Nothing can go wrong. Nothing can go. thing can go wrong. go wrong.

Re:There is a quite easy way to kill win7

By Anonymous Brave Guy • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

There's still a significant amount of useful Windows-only software out there. The lock-in effect is growing weaker as other platforms develop competitors and particularly as online services displace desktop software for a lot of users, but it's still there.

I'll Miss The Games

By ewhac • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Some of us remember the jaw-dropping arrogance and hubris Micros~1 demonstrated with their Get Windows 10 (GWX) initiative:

  • The new icon in the systray that was an advertisement, and couldn't be disabled (unless you knew the exact KB numbers to uninstall),
  • The pop-up windows nagging you to take the upgrade before it was "too late,"
  • Downloading a multi-gigabyte hairball containing the update to your system drive -- without your knowledge or consent -- "just in case" you finally said yes,
  • Turning your PC into a Bittorrent node to distribute the update to other PCs, because why should Micros~1 pay for their own bandwidth when they can leech off everyone else's,
  • Using maliciously confusing prompts to trick people into accepting the upgrade, even -- and especially -- after they'd already explicitly said No several times,
  • The upgrades that failed,
  • The rollbacks that failed,
  • The machines that Win10 just plain didn't, and never would, support,
  • Arrogating all system administration to themselves, and still constantly fscking it up,
  • The promises and features that, to the surprise of no one who's been paying the slightest attention for the last 35 years, were never delivered -- shitty security, shitty performance, shitty UI, system updates that could break the machine at any given time, and device driver updates that never worked.

So I guess my question to Micros~1 is: What in your brain-worm-infested minds do you imagine has induced us to change our opinions on this matter? You are every bit as incompetent and every bit as untrustworthy as you were five years ago, ten years ago, 20 years ago...

Windows exists in my house solely to play games. If you feel you can't handle that duty any longer without completely fscking over my machine, then I guess I'll have to learn to live with just NetHack.

TL;DR: The Answer Is No.

Chrome's Lite Pages Speed Up HTTPS Webpages on Slow Connections

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An anonymous reader shares a report: Frustrated by web pages that never seem to load properly? Well, Google hopes to make them a thing of the past. Today, the company announced that Chrome on Android's Data Saver, a feature that automatically improves page loading using "built-in optimizations" and dedicated servers -- speeding them up by a factor of two and reducing data usage by up to 90 percent -- now supports encrypted HTTPS webpages. Previously, it only worked with unencrypted HTTP content. The latest stable version of Chrome on Android indicates in the URL bar when a lightweight version of a web page -- a Lite page -- is being displayed. Tapping the indicator shows additional information and provides an option to load the original version of the page. Google says that Chrome will automatically disable Lite pages on a per-site basis when it detects that "users frequently opt to load the original page."

JavaScript is the bane of the entire universe!

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread

The real cause: SHITTY JavaScript that pulls in half the world's code base just to render "Welcome to my shitty web page!"

If you're "web developer" creating such abominations, you are a turdbrain dumbass and probably too incompetent to jerk off.

Uh, so by default Google reads everything?

By luvirini • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I mean the default for chrome for android is that Google will read everything you browse?

google walls off the internet

By goombah99 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Holy cow this is the very thing we are afraid of. like Facebooks Internet basics initiative and all the links inside facebook that only work inside facebook. Already many web pages are no longer accessible on an iphone unless you install chrome. Now we get this version of the internet only available to websites that optimize their pages for big Goog.

I de-installed chrome just like I quit facebook

Another toll-booth in the making...

By QuietLagoon • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread
... if you want your content to make it to the device requesting it, please pay a toll to google, then proceed.

Re:Uh, so by default Google reads everything?

By AmiMoJo • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

No.

They have a database of commonly accessed content that they have pre-compressed on their own servers, such as Javascript frameworks. When the browser notices it needs to load one, it instead loads from the Google server or uses a locally cached copy. This happens even if the site said "load my copy", which usually means that the browser should re-download it no matter what.

Occasionally this breaks things because some sites modify their local copies, hence the need for the override.

This does not require any data about your browsing habits to be sent to Google, except in cases where you opt-in to sending it when you click on the override. It is explicitly opt-in, turned off by default.

Node.js and JS Foundations Are Merging To Form OpenJS

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The Linux Foundation today unveiled several major collaborative partnerships as it looks to cement the development of various open source projects that power much of the web. From a report: First off, the Node.js Foundation and the JS Foundation, which the Linux Foundation launched in 2016, are merging to form the OpenJS Foundation. The merger between the two chief organizations that focus on JavaScript comes six months after they publicly began to explore such a possibility with their communities. The OpenJS Foundation will focus on hosting and funding activities that support the growth of JavaScript and web technologies, the Linux Foundation said in a press release.

The OpenJS Foundation consists of 29 open source JavaScript projects including jQuery, Node.js, Appium, Dojo, and webpack. The merger is supported by 30 corporate and end user members including Google, Microsoft, IBM, PayPal, GoDaddy, and Joyent that recognize the "interconnected nature of the JavaScript ecosystem, and the importance of providing a neutral home for projects which represent significant shared value," the Linux Foundation said in a prepared statement.
Also in the report: The Linux Foundation has created CHIPS Alliance, a project that aims to host and curate open source code relevant to design of chips that power mobile, IoT, and other consumer electronic devices; and the Continuous Delivery Foundation, which aims to serve as a platform for vendors, developers, and users to frequently engage and share insights and best practices to spur the development of open source projects.

It also announced that the GraphQL Foundation is collaborating with Joint Development Foundation to encourage "contributions, stewardship, and a shared investment from a broad group in vendor-neutral events, documentation, tools, and support for the data query language."

Is JS becoming worse than Perl?

By xanthos • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
And this is coming from an old Perl Hacker. The biggest gripe against Perl has always been that it is a write once maintain never type of language. Unless done correctly, and it can be done correctly, it can be near impossible for anyone but the original author to maintain. And sometimes event the original author goes WTF? when they look back at stuff they had previously written. Been there done that. But can anyone say that JS is better? Between the dependencies and the convolutions taken to interact with the various DOM elements it gets ugly very very quickly. I get it that the browser sandbox it is runs in has limitations, but why hasn't a better alternative taken hold? In fact, why is anyone encouraging using this ClusterF of a language on servers via Node.js?

Microsoft is Preparing To Test Android App-Mirroring on Windows 10

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Microsoft showed off the ability to mirror applications running on an Android phone to a Windows 10 PC last fall. Windows Insiders could begin testing this feature as soon as this week. From a report: MSPoweruser reports that the Android app-mirroring feature initially will be available on certain Android phones running Android 7.0 or greater, specifically the Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, S9 and S9+. Supported Windows 10 PCs need to have the "Bluetooth radio supports Low Energy Peripheral Role" on their systems in order to get the app-mirroring feature to work. Users will need to have Microsoft's Your Phone app installed for the feature to work. Only Windows Insiders running the latest test builds on certain devices will be able to test app-mirroring at first.The app-mirroring feature potentially could be available to Insiders as soon as this week.

Perfect for Win10

By 140Mandak262Jamuna • Score: 3 • Thread
This will feel very natural in Win10.

You see, Win10 is huge step for Windows. For ages they were trying to cram a full desktop UI into the tiny 4 inch screens, without keyboard. Then, they turned around and slapped a UI designed for 4 inch screens on the 24 inch desktop.

With App mirroring the full power of stretching a 5 inch UI over 24 inch display will be totally apparent.

Right now Microsoft is busy implementing a gesture UI for their minitowers.

After that they will think of doing something about the swipe control using a three button mouse.

Firefox Send Lets You Share 1GB Files With No Strings Attached

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In 2017, Mozilla experimented with a service that let you transfer 1GB files by sharing a web address with the recipient. Firefox Send is now out of testing and boasts a magnified 2.5GB file-size limit if you log into your Firefox account. From a report: Firefox Send is handy for those moments when you need to share video, audio or photo files that can be too big to squeeze into an email attachment. [...] Firefox Send, which will also be available as an Android app, illustrates one of Mozilla's efforts to diversify beyond the Firefox browser. Mozilla touts Firefox Send as focusing on privacy and uses encryption to protect files. Firefox Send files are available for up to seven days and can be password-protected. You can also limit the number of times they're downloaded.

Re:I see a string

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Below 1GB it does not. So the title would be correct, no?

ObXKCD:

By cjellibebi • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
https://xkcd.com/949/

Firefox integrates Pastebin

By Virtucon • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Nothing to see here, I still love Firefox but this is more of an add-on than a feature. I also can't see most enterprises being happy with it either.

self-host

By SumDog • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Is the whole thing open source and can you self host it?

Re:I see a string

By infolation • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
It's also a single download and single day limit.

The send.firefox.com site defaults to one download for one day. Attempting to change to more than one download, or more than one day, triggers an account login page. Also you have to be careful not to visit the link in any way, as this wipes the download and your recipient will receive a 'link expired' page.

So, long story short, wetransfer is more useful at moment.

Tim Berners-Lee Says World Wide Web Must Emerge From 'Adolescence'

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The fraying World Wide Web needs to rediscover its strengths and grow into maturity, its designer Tim Berners-Lee said on Monday, marking the 30th anniversary of the collaborative software project his supervisor initially dubbed "vague but exciting." From a report: Speaking to reporters at CERN, the physics research center outside Geneva where he invented the web, Berners-Lee said users of the web had found it "not so pretty" recently. "They are all stepping back, suddenly horrified after the Trump and Brexit elections, realizing that this web thing that they thought was that cool is actually not necessarily serving humanity very well," he said. "It seems we don't finish reeling from one privacy disaster before moving onto the next one," he added, citing concerns about whether social networks were supporting democracy. People who had grown up taking the internet's neutrality for granted now found that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump had "rolled that back."

Re:The US and UK

By phantomfive • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

the guy is somehow at the same time both Hitler and incapable of walking and chewing bubble gum at the same time.

That more-or-less describes Hitler: charismatic, but basically a failure at everything else.

That is exactly backwards

By SuperKendall • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Democracy needs an informed population to work.

That is correct, and in why only in recent years has it really started to work.

People trying to subvert democracy often attack it by misinforming the population

Indeed that has been happening for a few decades now by a central core of media that withhold and shape information.

in the last few years by convincing people that everything is fake and a lie

And how did they do that? By in fact showing people directly, what were fakes and lies.

simply choosing their own preferred truth is a valid choice.

That's the thing though. Now anyone can really get the whole picture. They can see the actual video of what people did, and judge them on that instead of what the media claims they said or did.

People complain that Trump voters ignore the "Truth" that Trump is whatever - racist, homophobic, etc. The reason Trump never has much impact from those claims, is because for the first time you can really see the falseness of them - you can see how Trump behaves now and in the past around women, around people of color, even around supporting gay marriage.

Trump is unique compared to a lot of current politicians in that there is a lot of prior video of him and so people already had a sense of him before the media started trying to craft an alternative image.

But going forward, more and more politicians will have the same thing apply - people will judge them based on what they have actually said and done instead of what the media claims about them. You can even see that with newer politicians like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - she gets a lot of flak from the right, but you can watch a lot of video from her that is fairly reasonable, so the calls that she is crazy do not really stick.

She has some ideas about socialism that I and others find wrong, but you can actually go see what she says and judger her based on that instead of by what others sat about her. So how is any of that a "lie"? People can be better informed now that at any point in history - the real problem is that the professional political class by and large suck giant donkey balls, and now that is easy for anyone to see. In the end that is not a "problem" at all, that is a solution and the world is undergoing a correction based on this new fact...

Um, what?

By cascadingstylesheet • Score: 3 • Thread
We need a new internet because there were some election results he didn't like? Seriously?

Re:The US and UK

By totallyarb • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The UK didn't vote for Brexit

Factually untrue. There was a referendum, and more people voted to leave than remain.

the majority didn't vote

Also factually untrue. Turnout was 72.2% - which is higher than turnout at any US Presidential election since 1900. Are those all invalid too?

Putin's illegal propaganda funding

...is a convenient excuse for people who want to ignore the result. How little do you think of the people of Britain that you think that the activities of a few trolls on the internet are enough to decisively swing the result?

stop Brexit with a real vote

What do you define as a REAL vote? Do you seriously think that a second referendum would magically be "cleaner" than the first one? I don't think you do. I think you just want to keep asking the question until you get the answer you want, and democracy be damned.

For what it's worth, I voted Remain. I think leaving the EU is a terrible decision. But the precedent that would be set by ignoring the expressed will of the public because you don't like the result is more frightening to me than the worst chaos Brexit might bring.

Seriously?

By Brew Bird • Score: 3 • Thread
The internet/web is a mirror of humanity. No matter what kind of control system you try to impose on it, human nature will be reflected and sometimes magnified by the tools we use. The Web, and the social media system that grows on it, are a great example of the fun-house mirror result you get when people's thought processes and discrimination ability lag behind technology. I first wrote about this in 1999, as the net.sheep effect. People have been conditioned by 100s of years of text-as-truth to trust anything they READ (because putting things down in writing was once an epic effort, requiring not only a great deal of money, but also the expectation that the quality of the words would be worthy of the effort to put them down and publish them). It's only when a small portion of the user base begins to leverage that habit, that the abuse of being able to reach the entire planet with a rumor begins to become clear... not because gossip is new, but because making gossip seem not only true, but authoritative (by virtue of being written/published/repeated by thousands of sites) is. The only way to address that with technology is by bringing back the one thing that makes a modern society civil : Personal Accountability. Virtual Reputation needs to not only be a 'thing', but a 'thing' that has consequences. Facebook has been a little slow on this, because they recognize their site is a huge rumor mill... if they start squashing rumors, what will that do to their numbers? All in all, the answer to this issue is the same as it was when the printing press was invented, when radio came out, when TV came out: People who are going to report/spread information have to be held accountable for the accuracy of that information as well as the damage they create by doing rumors instead of facts.

Microsoft Asks Users To Call Windows 10 Devs About ALT+TAB Feature

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bleeping Computer: Microsoft has started to display notifications in the Windows 10 Action Center asking users to have a phone call with Microsoft developers and provide direct feedback about the ALT+TAB feature in Windows. While using a Windows 10 Insider build today, I was shown a Feedback Hub notification stating that "Microsoft wants to hear your opinions! To set up a phone call with Windows engineers, go to: http://www.aka.ms/alttab." This link then redirects to a web page at https://ux.microsoft.com/?AltTab. It is not known if this is only being shown to Windows Insiders users at this time.

When users visit this link they will be shown a Microsoft User Research page stating that a Windows 10 product team is looking to "understand our customer needs" and would like to have an anonymous 5-10 minute phone call with the user. In this particular case, the phone call will be with Microsoft engineers to discuss how users use the ALT+TAB feature to switch between apps. Microsoft states they are performing these calls in order to get a better understanding of how a feature is being used while they are in development. According to the web site, Windows engineers will be available on 3/11/2019 between 11:15 AM and 1:00 PM PST and on 3/12/2019 between 9:30 AM and 11:30 AM PST to schedule a call. The page goes on to say that users can expect a 5-10 minute call, but that it could last longer if there is more to discuss. They also state that the calls are not being recorded, are anonymous, and the content of the call will not be stored.

Re:I use ...

By mridoni • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

In the era of DOS applications, F3 was the nearly universal key for exiting the program, and returning to the DOS prompt.

It was actually a holdover from the mainframe/3270 days, when F3 (PF3 in IBM parlance) was universally used to exit a running program.

Re:I use ...

By Calydor • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Oh man, now I remember the keyboards at school had this cardboard cutout that fit over the function keys with an explanation of what ctrl/alt/shift/combo thereof along with each function key did in WordPerfect. I think ... Shift-F7 was Save, wasn't it?

Re:More M$ chicanery...

By dkman • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

They use it to switch active application. That's it's god damn job, and has been since Windows 3.1 (and probably earlier). It performs that same function in Linux. Why would we even think about changing that? Because we're Microsoft. (I just figured I'd go ahead and answer that question for anyone who was confused.)

Re:More M$ chicanery...

By apoc.famine • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

If they fuck with alt-tab at all, I'm not sure I could use that operating system. That's like 20+ years of muscle memory to overcome, and I don't see that happening as long as I'm using a standard keyboard.

It's baffling enough that they haven't every adopted Alt-` to cycle through windows of an application. I use that on linux all of the time.

Re:More M$ chicanery...

By Rob Y. • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

I used to use hot key mappings to switch to specific windows on Win7 - until they broke it in Windows 10.

I set up hotkeys to launch PuTty sessions to multiple unix hosts - or multiple accounts on the same host. And on Windows 95 through Windows 7, hitting the same hotkey would bring the corresponding session to the foreground. On Windows 10, the hotkey now launches a second copy of the corresponding session - rendering the hotkey feature useless.

Fix that, please - and you can take away Alt-Tab if you want...

US Tells Germany To Stop Using Huawei Equipment Or Lose Some Intelligence Access

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The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the United States has told Germany to drop Huawei from its future plans or risk losing access to some U.S. intelligence. The U.S. says the Chinese company's equipment could be used for espionage -- a concern that Huawei says is unfounded. "The Trump administration has been pressing allies to end their relationships with Huawei, but Germany, moving ahead with its plans, has not moved to ban the company from its networks," reports The Verge. From the report: According to the Journal, a letter sent from the U.S. Ambassador to Germany warns the country that the U.S. will stop sharing some secrets if it allows Huawei to work on its next-generation 5G infrastructure. The letter, according to the Journal, argues that network security can't be effectively managed by audits of equipment or software. While the U.S. plans to continue sharing intelligence with Germany regardless, the Journal reports, officials plan to curtail the scope of that information if Huawei equipment is used in German infrastructure.

Re:It doesn't matter anymore

By Freischutz • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

And, of course, you have proof of this?

The NSA project is called Tailored Access Operations: http://www.spiegel.de/internat...

Cisco got so pissed about it they went to visit the president to complain: https://www.techdirt.com/artic...

Warning of an erosion of confidence in the products of the U.S. technology industry, John Chambers, the CEO of networking giant Cisco Systems, has asked President Obama to intervene to curtail the surveillance activities of the National Security Agency.

Re:Of course!

By bickerdyke • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

So, why do you think it's a good idea to pay China for equipment that likely has back doors,

Again, that's a false premise. As of now, your question should be phrased: Why do you think it's a good idea to pay China for equipment that has no indication of backdoors or security issues except unfounded claims from someone backing a competing vendor?

Huawai would be in position to put a back door into any of their equipment with a firmware update, even if they don't exist now. Why take that chance? And how would you be able to know if they did? I seriously doubt they'd let you build the code from source...

They will if they want to sell it to Germany and if it is necessary to pass the security audit. And with no reliable information performing such an audit for ANY possible vendor is the only way to go.

Clearly Huawai would do as the government requires, and if that was to hide backdoors in their firmware updates, you can bet they'd do it. Cisco? Not so much.

Well, any american company also is no further than a NSL away from having to give the three letter agencies full access, too. So, again, Germany can't rely on anyone here and has to run their own strict security audit and include any possible vendor here.

Re:Recommendations?

By chill • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Ericsson or Nokia would be my guess. Both are major telecom manufacturers with a heavy investment in 5G. Both are European companies.

Immigration peak [Re:Buy American or else!]

By XXongo • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Americans moaning about immigration like their country isn't based off the fucking concept.

The world moaning about ancient history as if it's fucking relevant anymore. Those that migrated to the US hundreds of years ago weren't.....

BZZT.

Immigration peak was actually in 1930. That's not 'hundreds of years ago'.

Re:The other alternative is even dumber.

By XXongo • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

it's about preserving security on the networks that carry the terabytes of secret information passing between the countries.

By preserve security you of course mean maintain the US ability to slurp it all up.

Um, you do have to realize that the Chinese government are not the good guys. Saying "well, what about NSA spying??" is a whataboutism argument. Yes, the NSA is a spy agency, but that doesn't mean that Chinese spying is something we shouldn't worry about.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-meaning

Surprising Discovery Hints Sonic Waves Carry Mass

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jbmartin6 shares a report from Scientific American: In a paper published in Physical Review Letters, a group of scientists has theorized that sound waves possess mass, meaning sounds would be directly affected by gravity. They suggest phonons, particle-like collective excitations responsible for transporting sound waves across a medium, might exhibit a tiny amount of mass in a gravitational field. "You would expect classical physics results like this one to have been known for a long time by now," says Angelo Esposito from Columbia University, the lead author on the paper. "It's something we stumbled upon almost by chance."

Esposito and his colleagues built on a previous paper published last year, in which Alberto Nicolis of Columbia and Riccardo Penco from Carnegie Mellon University first suggested phonons could have mass in a superfluid. The latest study, however, shows this effect should hold true for other materials, too, including regular liquids and solids, and even air itself. And although the amount of mass carried by the phonons is expected to be tiny -- comparable with a hydrogen atom, about 10^-24 grams -- it may actually be measurable. Except, if you were to measure it, you would find something deeply counterintuitive: The mass of the phonons would be negative, meaning they would fall "up." Over time their trajectory would gradually move away from a gravitational source such as Earth. "If their gravitational mass was positive, they would fall downward," Penco says. "Because their gravitational mass is negative, phonons fall upwards." And the amount they would "fall" is equally small, varying depending on the medium the phonon is traveling through. In water, where sound moves at 1.5 kilometers per second, the negative mass of the phonon would cause it to drift at about 1 degree per second. But this corresponds to a change of 1 degree over 15 kilometers, which would be exceedingly difficult to measure.

Re:Negative mass

By mentil • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Since we're talking about antigravity, I'm more curious if it's possible to use sound as a means of atmospheric propulsion. If the phonons have upward force it might be possible to create an efficient echo chamber that generates lift. That could revolutionize aerospace. I recall research on a 'sonic engine' to power cars, containing echoing sounds "so loud they would start your hair on fire," so there's already been some research done on such vessels.

Re:Theoretical physics isn't science

By Potor • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Come on now. Science is not limited to the domain of experimental science.

Science broadly construed is the search for hypotheses that unite various phenomena. Experimental science merely attempts to falsify these hypotheses.

If anything, experimental science is the ugly stepsister here ...

Re:Theoretical physics isn't science

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Dude, Phys. Rev. Lett. is quite substantial. Physicist here.

15km in 1 second at 1.5km/s?

By Walking The Walk • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

In water, where sound moves at 1.5 kilometers per second, the negative mass of the phonon would cause it to drift at about 1 degree per second. But this corresponds to a change of 1 degree over 15 kilometers, which would be exceedingly difficult to measure

Uh, if sound moves at 1.5 km/s, and drifts by 1 degree/s, then in 1 second it should have drifted by 1 degree and travelled 1.5 km, not 15km? After 10 seconds it will have travelled 15 km and drifted by 10 degrees, which surely would be measurable. (PS: I read the article, the summary quotes the article correctly.)

Re:Makes sense to me

By Baloroth • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Sound travels through matter, so consists of, well, "phonons" that are really just the slightly altered movements of the matter the sound travels through. Sound exists for as long as that extra movement exists, and for it to exist, the matter needs to be excited, ie possess energy, over and above ambient. So that means sound waves traveling perpendicular to a gravity field have a tendency to be a little less affected by that field than ambient matter. So it looks like phonons have negative mass.

So this apparent mass is an artifact of the way you look at it.

This is explicitly not what the paper is saying. I'll just quote the introduction:

Now, this effect is completely equivalent to standard refraction: in the presence of gravity, the pressure of the superfluid depends on depth, and so does the speed of sound. As a result, in the geometric acoustics limit sound waves do not propagate along straight lines. Because of this, one might be tempted to dismiss any interpretation of this phenomenon in terms of “gravitational mass”. However, since in the formalism of [1] the effect is due to a coupling with gravity in the effective Lagrangian of the phonon, the same coupling must affect the field equation for gravity: the (tiny) effective gravitational mass of the phonon generates a (tiny) gravitational field. The source of this gravitational field travels with the phonon.

In other words, if you look at the phonons path, the effect of gravity on it looks just like standard refraction because, well, this is a sound wave. But the phonon itself couples to gravity, which means the phonon produces a gravitational field (albeit an extremely tiny one) as if it has negative mass. That is interesting (although probably not very interesting, as phonons are still quasiparticles, not real particles: a real particle with negative mass would revolutionize physics. A quasiparticle with negative mass might revolutionize a few scientists CVs).