the unofficial Slashdot digest for 2019-Oct-08 today archive


  1. California Bans Political Deepfakes During Election Season
  2. Microsoft Plans To Bring Internet Access To 40 Million People By 2022
  3. Twitter Took Phone Numbers for Security and Used Them for Advertising
  4. Teens Choose YouTube Over Netflix For the First Time, Survey Finds
  5. 'Collapse OS' Is An Open-Source Operating System For the Post-Apocalypse
  6. FBI's Use of Surveillance Database Violated Americans' Privacy Rights: Court
  7. Senator Proposes Mandatory Labeling For Products With Mics, Cameras
  8. D-Link Home Routers Open To Remote Takeover Will Remain Unpatched
  9. US Expands Blacklist To Include China's Top AI Startups Ahead of Trade Talks
  10. Thunderbird Announces OpenPGP Support
  11. Bipartisan Senate Report Calls For Sweeping Effort To Prevent Russian Interference in 2020 Election
  12. Nobel Prize in Physics: 2019 Winners Made Significant Cosmological Discoveries
  13. Nobel Prize in Medicine Goes To 3 Scientists For Discovering How Cells Use Oxygen
  14. Activision Blizzard Suspends 'Hearthstone' Pro Player for Supporting Hong Kong Protests
  15. Apple's Merged iPad, Mac Apps Leave Developers Uneasy, Users Paying Twice
  16. Sony Confirms PlayStation 5 Name, Holiday 2020 Release Date
  17. US Using Trade Deals To Shield Tech Giants From Foreign Regulators
  18. Chinese Firms Tencent, Vivo, and CCTV Suspend Ties With the NBA Over Hong Kong Tweet
  19. China Is Breeding Giant Pigs the Size of Polar Bears
  20. You Can Now Overclock a Raspberry Pi 4 For Some Nice Performance Gains
  21. First Meat Grown In Space Lab 248 Miles From Earth

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California Bans Political Deepfakes During Election Season

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: California has passed a law meant to prevent altered "deepfake" videos from influencing elections, in a plan that has raised free speech concerns. Last week, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law AB 730, which makes it a crime to distribute audio or video that gives a false, damaging impression of a politician's words or actions. The law applies to any candidate within 60 days of an election, but includes some exceptions. News media will be exempt from the requirement, as will videos made for satire or parody. Potentially deceptive video or audio will also be allowed if it includes a disclaimer noting that it's fake. The law will sunset in 2023. The report notes that Newsom also signed a law that would ban pornographic deepfakes made without consent.

Re:So far so bad

By The Evil Atheist • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Political speech is the most protected of all, up to and including deliberate lies

Making a fake video of someone saying something they didn't say, with technology now so good it is really difficult for a person not exposed to the technology to tell the difference from a real video, is not a lie, and is not political speech. It is not speech at all. It is an action. Otherwise, counterfeit money would be considered free speech. America today already has a problem with degree mills awarding fake degrees and allowing recipients to scam others under free speech.

Absolutism in anything is stupid.

Re:News media will be exempt from the requirement?

By guruevi • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

It's clear since the law sunsets in 2023 that this is solely to influence the 2020 elections. Democrats will libel and sue everyone to make sure Trump isn't re-elected. Every video critical of the Democrat will be taken down under the label deepfake and then the lawsuit will be decided some time in 2021. On the other hand the MSM will have a license to produce deep fakes without any recourse.

This IS an attack on free speech. It's absolutely clear California and Democrats doesn't give a fuck about your rights.

Too bad..

By The Grim Reefer • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
It's a shame they didn't ban out of context sound bites. It's amazing the difference it makes when you see a 2 or three second sound bite vs. an entire quote. I've gotten to the point where any sound bite I find even remotely surprising I try to find the entire speach or interview before coming to a conclusion one way or the other. Granted, sound bites have always been somewhat questionable, but they have been completely dishonest an increasingly amount in the last 20 years or so. Especially since it's become so easy to verify or debunk them since the rise of the internet.

Re:Chinese Central Television said it.

By skam240 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

God damn, this post brought out every conspiracy theorist Slashdot has.

"The tendency of the Californian government to restrict free speech is a reflection of the large number of American citizens who were born in China (or India) but who reside in California. In Chinese culture, suppressing free speech is normal."


Californian's of Indian decent amount to 1.42%
Californian's of Chinese decent amount to 1,349,111 people which if you do the math comes to roughly 3.5% of California's population. It should also be noted that the vast majority of California's ethnic Chinese population has been in this country for several generation now so wouldn't apply to what you're saying.

I find it hard to believe that 5% at most (and really more like 2% once you deduct out everyone in these groups born in this country) of the population has such a disproportional influence as you seem to ascribe them. You might as well pedal the old Jewish conspiracy theories about them controlling media and banking while you're at it because they make about as much sense.

In summary, pedal your blatantly stupid xenophobia elsewhere.

Will that

By AHuxley • Score: 3 • Thread
get to the art of a cartoon "made" from a broadcast video clip?
A funny meme pic?
A still frame from a video wth political words added?
When does the fake stop and the CA gov approved political satire start?
Is a cartoon not art? A series of frames in a gif?
How much art has to be added by an artist before speech is filly protected from CA "again"?

Microsoft Plans To Bring Internet Access To 40 Million People By 2022

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Almost 30 years after the World Wide Web was first invented, there are still billions of people that don't have access to any sort of internet connectivity. Microsoft wants to change that by using its 2017 Airband Initiative to streamline efforts to build out internet access across Africa, Latin America and Asia. "Moving forward, the company plans to connect 40 million people across the world to the internet by 2022," reports Engadget. From the report: Initially, Microsoft will focus on rural and remote communities in Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa, with other regions to follow. The company adds that it plans to employ a four-part approach that will focus on working with local ISPs and communities to build out affordable and reliable internet access. Microsoft is pushing regulators for access to TV White Space (TVWS), which are wireless frequencies that can be repurposed to deliver internet access across a wide area. Microsoft is also working to build out internet access in rural communities across the U.S. The company currently aims to bring high-speed internet access to more than 9 million people in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas.

White Spaces

By fred911 • Score: 3 • Thread

are no mystery. They're just unused bandwidth in the 600mhz range. Unused channels are allocated for various unlicensed usages but there are certain specifications for operations. Here's the part 15 rule change.

Read what MS is actually requesting from the FCC here;

Third time's a charm

By coofercat • Score: 3 • Thread

Isn't this their third attempt at this?

First it was the Microsoft Network - it was going to be awesome, you'd dial up to it and get all the possible content you could imagine from them. There was no way you'd need the Internet if Microsoft provided it to you instead. Despite years of pushing it Microsoft-style to the world, the world said no and used the Internet. "MSN" became a website that most people ignored.

Then they thought, if it's the Internet you want, we can provide it to you. Bill Gates was still at the helm and planned a constellation of loads of LEO satellites which would somehow beam the Internet to the whole world and once again, we'd all be pleased to use it in place of whatever other solution was available at the time. Cheap broadband and expensive launches essentially put that plan to bed, but not before he'd talked about it dunno how many times. Various space people were concerned that having so many satellites in LEO could mean a 'space junk' hit would cause a chain reaction, making LEO a dangerous place for generations to come.

And now this... Somewhat less over-bearing than the previous two attempts, but right in there with Facebook and Google's plans to "liberate the masses". Oh I can't wait...

Twitter Took Phone Numbers for Security and Used Them for Advertising

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When some users provided Twitter with their phone number to make their account more secure, the company used this information for advertising purposes, the company said today. From a report: This isn't the first time that a large social network has taken information explicitly meant for the purposes of security, and then quietly or accidentally use it for something else entirely. Facebook did something similar with phone numbers provided by users for two-factor authentication, the company confirmed last year. "We recently discovered that when you provided an email address or phone number for safety or security purposes (for example, two-factor authentication) this data may have inadvertently been used for advertising purposes, specifically in our Tailored Audiences and Partner Audiences advertising system," Twitter's announcement reads. In short, when an advertiser using Twitter uploaded their own marketing list of email addresses or phone numbers, Twitter may have matched the list to people on Twitter "based on the email or phone number the Twitter account holder provided for safety and security purposes," the post adds.

Re:You aren't paying Twitter, are you?

By mi • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Not mine, they don't — I don't use Twitter... But I'm not the one complaining either...

Twitter says: "Come on, Baby..

By Rick Schumann • Score: 4, Funny • Thread
..I'll only put it in one inch, and I'll take it out if you don't like it." xD

I'm tired of this phone number shit

By Malays Bowman • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Now companies, sit the hell down and shut the fuck up and listen to this:


  And in case you are too fucking stupid to comprehend the first time,
let me repeat what I just said:


  And don't fuck around with me "for my safety". I am a grown adult, older than most of the people working for you, and I don't need you to treat me like a fucking toddler, understand?

  And if you suddenly pop up a requirement that I enter a phone number "for my safety", and the system requires one that I never entered and I am forever locked out, you will have just made an instant enemy, and I will trash your name at every chance I get. Since you never leave any legitimate channels open to get this resolved, and you have layers of people and bureaucracy to protect yourselves from helping the likes of me to solve a problem that YOU created, I will fuck you up. I'll spread the word far and wide letting people know how much of a putz you are, and I'll make you lose customers left and right. Can your pea brains comprehend what I am saying?

  I hope so, for YOUR sake!


By astrofurter • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Hanlon's Razor is deprecated. Refer instead to the Surveillance Valley Razor:

"Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice."


By Cro Magnon • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

"Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice".

Teens Choose YouTube Over Netflix For the First Time, Survey Finds

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According to Piper Jaffray's fall 2019 survey, teens prefer watching videos on YouTube more than Netflix. CNBC reports: Piper Jaffray found 37% of teens surveyed are streaming video most often on the Google-owned platform, narrowly edging out longtime leader Netflix, which came in at 35%. The firm attributed the shift to YouTube's diversified content library, which includes a "wide array of teen-oriented content" like music videos, video game playthroughs, how-to videos and videos from social media influencers, among other things.

Despite Netflix ceding its pole position to YouTube, teens are flocking to it far more than other streaming services, Piper Jaffray found. Hulu and Amazon's Prime Video served as the preferred platforms for 7% and 3% of teens surveyed, respectively. Cable TV ranked third at 12%, down from 14% in the spring, indicating that cord-cutting continues to be on the rise, the firm said.
"Among the subscription services, Netflix is the leader in category that contains massive multi-year growth potential as more content viewing shifts online," Piper Jaffray analysts said. "There will be increasing competition (Disney's Disney+ and Apple's Apple TV+) and unforeseen hurdles, but we believe the market will support multiple players, with Netflix leading the way."

Netflix keep losing content

By rsilvergun • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
so it's not surprising they're losing ground. They keep losing shows to other streaming services.

Re:Netflix keep losing content

By Retired ICS • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Plus they keep on making their UI worse and worse every time they touch it. It is already close to completely unseable with all the auto-play crap that infests it everywhere, the bauble bouncing, and the continuous stream of noise. The UI started to go downhill when they got rid of their star ratings and replaced it with that useless thumbs-up/thumbs down crap and the xx% match crap (whatever the hell that means).

NetFlix will be just a memory if they continue as they are going.

YouTube is Free

By Retired ICS • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

YouTube is free and full of drivel. Of course the tweenies like it. They have neither money nor taste.

No Surprise

By Jastiv • Score: 3, Informative • Thread
My son loves Youtube more than Netflix too. I don't know what it is. He watches a lot of boring things like someone making a cake in the shape of a pop-culture or video game character, families celebrating birthdays, or things like don't take a bath in honey at 3am. He likes the families and the kids, the unboxing toys, young men acting silly by doing things like dropping watermelons. He likes the stupid video game reviews where the reviewers dress up in costumes and act goofy. A well produced and put together story doesn't engage him. He just likes action and silliness. Plot doesn't concern him at all.

Apples to Oranges

By Shaitan • Score: 3 • Thread

Netflix and Youtube aren't competitors. You don't go to Youtube when you want a tv show or movie, nor do you go to Netflix for a music video or to find out how to fix the kitchen sink. Neither displaces the other. Netflix is also subscription based, they make money based on how many people subscribe not advertising so more time actually watching Netflix cuts into their profits and it only considered beneficial in the sense that it indirectly indicates content that is drawing subscribers.

Youtube may consider Netflix a competitor for eyeball time but nobody is dropping a Netflix subscription because of Youtube. It's a nonsensical comparison to make. If that is all you are going on then children are Youtube competitors because time spent feeding them and taking them to the park compete for eyeball time.

Netflix competitors are Cable, HBO, Starz, Showtime, Max, Hulu and this new disney thing, etc except that isn't entirely true either because you subscribe to as many as you can afford/are willing to pay for and then pirate the content from the others since none of them have all the content and the market is far too fragmented.

'Collapse OS' Is An Open-Source Operating System For the Post-Apocalypse

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Collapse OS is a new open-source operating system built specifically for use during humanity's darkest days. According to its creator, software developer Virgil Dupras, Collapse OS is what the people of the future will need to reconfigure their scavenged iPhones. For now, though, he's hosting the project on GitHub and looking for contributors. Motherboard reports: According to the Collapse OS site, Dupras envisions a world where the global supply chain collapses by 2030. In this possible future -- kind of a medium-apocalypse -- populations won't be able to mass produce electronics anymore, but they'll still be an enormous source of political and social power. Anyone who can scavenge electronics and reprogram them will gain a huge advantage over those who don't. Dupras believes that the biggest problem for tech savvy post-apocalyptic people will be microcontrollers -- tiny computers embedded in circuit boards that control the functions of computer systems.

Collapse OS will work with Z80 8-bit microprocessors. Though less common today than 16- and 32-bit components, the 8-bit Z80 can be found in desktop computers, cash registers, musical instruments, graphing calculators, and everything in between. In a Reddit Q&A, Dupras explained that the Z80 was chosen "because it's been in production for so long and because it's been used in so many machines, scavenger have good chances of getting their hands on it." According to the product page, Collapse OS currently can run on a homebrew Z80-based computer called the RC2014, and on Reddit Dupras said it could theoretically run on a Sega Genesis console.


By TigerPlish • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

That is why stocking up on guns is a stupid idea. Guns will be lying about all over the place, there will be no shortage of guns. Bullets on the other hand ...

Danger, I've had quite a few brandies and my brain is off its leash.. long rambly post ahead.

Bullets as we know them had their birth in the late 19th century. Guns are much, much older. Even after a collapse ammo production should be attainable within a decade. Maybe sooner. Small-scale reloaders will have everything they need.

Skill up. Welding, carpentry, machining, chemistry, metallurgy, and a bunch of other hard skills will be quite swell to have when the apocalypse is over. Time to rebuild. Of course there's more, like music and art, but those hard skills are the ones that built the world as you know it.

I know a lot of people study those and some make a living at it, but if SHTF, having even modest skills will come in very handy.

Might as well throw in guns, bow and arrow, spears, and learn hunting fowl and beast. And fishing. Best to be schooled in all that.

You know, all the skills that are apparently currently either uncool or deemed cruel

Dunno bout you, but if I'm deer, I'd rather suddenly go from a .30-30 to the brain than standing in line at a processing farm to be sold at the supermarket.

Heh. Seen the go-pro the fox ate on youtube? So many comments "Oh that fox, how kayoooo000te!" Didn't those people realize that they just witnessed what a rabbit likely last sees? If I were rabbit, I'd rather go with a .22 to the heart than mauled to death by foxie over there. And if I get winged, the responsible hunter will find me and give me the coup de grace.

(They are either uncool or appear cruel to the mainstream. To those who know, those skills are to be passed on and kept alive at all costs, for without them there is no civilization.)

It's not all just phones and apps...

If we do get the classic Mad Max scenario, there will be two kinds of people: Takers and Makers. The Makers will have the skills to keep the Takers at bay... ...or completely rid the world of them.

Makers and Takers. Remember that.

In a way, we're there right this second.

Makers and Takers.

Z80 is overpowered!

By rlseaman • Score: 3 • Thread

Z80's were the first domino to fall in our ongoing collapse of civilization. Clearly the post-apocalyptic economy will be based on the wholesome 6502 processor. Humanity must start stockpiling KIM-1 ( and SYM-1 single board computers asap in the vaults at Svalbard.


By OrangeTide • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Do you think cell towers will be working?

Ad Hoc WiFi mode and start making calls to your fellow cave dwellers.

OS post-apocalypse should run...

By LordHighExecutioner • Score: 3 • Thread
...on an abacus. It is everything that will be left.

Will it be ready for November 1st?

By TangoCharlie • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Things donâ(TM)t look good here in the UK at the moment. I just want to know if Collapse OS will be ready for prime time on November 1st? #brexit

FBI's Use of Surveillance Database Violated Americans' Privacy Rights: Court

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Wall Street Journal: Some of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's electronic surveillance activities violated the constitutional privacy rights of Americans swept up in a controversial foreign intelligence program (Warning: source paywalled; alternative source), a secretive surveillance court has ruled. The ruling deals a rare rebuke to U.S. spying activities that have generally withstood legal challenge or review. The intelligence community disclosed Tuesday that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court last year found that the FBI's pursuit of data about Americans ensnared in a warrantless internet-surveillance program intended to target foreign suspects may have violated the law authorizing the program, as well as the Constitution's Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches.

The court concluded that the FBI had been improperly searching a database of raw intelligence for information on Americans -- raising concerns about oversight of the program, which as a spy program operates in near total secrecy. The court ruling identifies tens of thousands of improper searches of raw intelligence databases by the bureau in 2017 and 2018 that it deemed improper in part because they involved data related to tens of thousands of emails or telephone numbers -- in one case, suggesting that the FBI was using the intelligence information to vet its personnel and cooperating sources. Federal law requires that the database only be searched by the FBI as part of seeking evidence of a crime or for foreign intelligence information. In other cases, the court ruling reveals improper use of the database by individuals. In one case, an FBI contractor ran a query of an intelligence database -- searching information on himself, other FBI personnel and his relatives, the court revealed.
U.S. District Judge James Boasberg said that the Trump administration failed to persuasively argue that the bureau would not be able to properly tackle national security threats if the program was altered to better protect citizen privacy.

So what?

By AndyKron • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
So what if they did? Nobody is going to get punished for this and it's going to get worse over time.

Might start a firestorm... of hate...

By Tulsa_Time • Score: 3, Informative • Thread

But this is one of the central abuses of the fake Trump Russia conspiracy.


You think they care?

By p51d007 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
The FBI, CIA, NSA and countless other Constitutionally ILLEGAL agencies don't give a rats ass about "our rights". They are pretty much all part of the deep state.

So the fucked are fucked, the fuckers are fine

By Snotnose • Score: 3 • Thread
Those who got fucked by this are still fucked. The folks who did the fucking probably got promotions.

Wake me up when something changes.

So... it's the same as it's been for over a decade

By Spamalope • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Don't you remember the stories here about secret rooms at AT&T network operations centers?

The once where it came out traffic was being monitored?
What about when it was revealed they were routing domestic calls through Canada so they could be considered 'international' and thus lose Constitutional protections against spying?

Remember how many years ago that was? Through both parties having control? This is a problem with political power at the top, not a specific party thing.

Senator Proposes Mandatory Labeling For Products With Mics, Cameras

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Senator Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) introduced a bill, dubbed the Protecting Privacy in our Homes Act, that would require tech companies to include a label on products disclosing the presence of internet-connected microphones or cameras. "The proposed law does not define what kind of labels would need to be appended but rather would order the Federal Trade Commission to put in place specific regulations 'under which each covered manufacturer shall be required to include on the packaging of each covered device manufactured by the covered manufacturer a notice that a camera or microphone is a component of the covered device,'" reports Ars Technica. From the report: "Consumers face a number of challenges when it comes to their privacy, but they shouldn't have a challenge figuring out if a device they buy has a camera or microphone embedded into it," Gardner said. "This legislation is about consumer information, consumer empowerment, and making sure we're doing everything we can to protect consumer privacy." Most products that ship with cameras or microphones included tout the inclusion of such recording devices as a selling point, which could make this kind of regulation feel redundant at best. That said, there's quite a difference between "most" and "all." A rule such as the regulation Gardner proposes would close the gap that, for example, led owners of Nest Secure devices to the unpleasant discovery earlier this year that the products had shipped with undisclosed microphones.

This is a good idea

By zippo01 • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
I am normally against regulation, but I have no issue with this. Minimal impact to manufactures, with huge privacy concerns/rewards. If you have the slightest desire for privacy or even the illusion of it, you should support this too!


By Humbubba • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
I propose mandatory on/off switches for the mics & cameras that, by law, only work for the product's owner.

"It's not a big hole! It's a series of lenses!"

By BAReFO0t • Score: 3 • Thread

Is what he was heard yelling, later.
Then he went on, to print out his newest "electronic letters".

All I can do, is laugh. Like that would change anything.

Here in Germany, it's illegal to record anyone without his consent. But there is also freedom of the press. So judges have to decide on a case by case basis. (Unlike in the US, judges can't set precedents here.)
Also, there is a law that makes it legal, if people (presumably accidentially) are visible on your "panorama".

And every surveillance camera HAS to have a sign *outside* of the recorded area, telling you what is done with the data. Except traffic cops somehow get a free pass. *cough*more equal*cough*
Not that your greasy spoon down the road would care, as long as nobody sues.

In daily life, people run around with their smartphones every day anyway. Even though those could record everything at any time. (E.g. if I yell "Hey Siri!" in a public place, I might create a recording and a leak.)

And if somebody is obviously recording, most people will say nothing, but won't exactly be happy about it. Somebody (like me) can tell you to stop and delete it at any time though. Not that he could check.
Also, the latest trick is, to make it look like you are just using the "selfie" cam, e.g. as a mirror. As long as nobody sees your screen, you can record all you want. (Just make sure to mute the activation sound.)
(For the record: Public nudity is not illegal in Germany!)

You see ... big mess ... where signs would be useless.

So please tread carefully when going down the public privacy rabbit hole.
And never forget that it is all about the permanence of the recording. As in: It still tainting your reputation, 30 years later, halfway around the world. Not about a remote guy behind a (non-leaky) camera seeing the same thing everybody can see publicly *at that moment* anyway.

Re:This does not go far enough!

By sexconker • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

No, they should all be required to have user-accessible, on/off switches that physically break power and data circuits without otherwise inhibiting the device.

Re:This is a good idea

By xlsior • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

I am normally against regulation, but I have no issue with this. Minimal impact to manufactures, with huge privacy concerns/rewards. If you have the slightest desire for privacy or even the illusion of it, you should support this too!

And note that it's NOT always obvious -- e.g. multiple Google Nest products shipped with hardware microphone present without being listed, only to be enabled later through a software update:

D-Link Home Routers Open To Remote Takeover Will Remain Unpatched

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D-Link won't patch a critical unauthenticated command-injection vulnerability in its routers that could allow an attacker to remotely take over the devices and execute code. Threatpost reports: The vulnerability (CVE-2019-16920) exists in the latest firmware for the DIR-655, DIR-866L, DIR-652 and DHP-1565 products, which are Wi-Fi routers for the home market. D-Link last week told Fortinet's FortiGuard Labs, which first discovered the issue in September, that all four of them are end-of-life and no longer sold or supported by the vendor (however, the models are still available as new via third-party sellers). The root cause of the vulnerability, according to Fortinet, is a lack of a sanity check for arbitrary commands that are executed by the native command-execution function. Fortinet describes this as a "typical security pitfall suffered by many firmware manufacturers." With no patch available, affected users should upgrade their devices as soon as possible.


By fred6666 • Score: 3 • Thread

And this is why all my routers run OpenWRT.

Why does software always get a pass?

By WaffleMonster • Score: 3 • Thread

This is bullshit. A few year old router has a critical security vuln and the manufacturer has no liability at all to even address critical security defects of their own making? Fuck D-Link.

Re:Continuing to sell an item with a known defect?

By Anne Thwacks • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
The directors of D-Link should be jointly and severally liable for all losses, real or imaginary, incurred as a result of this lack of response, to (and possibly beyond) the fullest extent permitted by any law whether relevant or not.

Perhaps including cruel and inhuman punishment.

On no account should any of them be employed in the management, or any other capacity, in any company, anywhere, except perhaps where hard unpaid hard labour is involved.


By Artem S. Tashkinov • Score: 3 • Thread

At least the DHP-1565 is supported by OpenWRT, so this model could be used further.

I personally only buy the routers which are known to be supported by OpenWRT - that pretty much guarantees near infinite support vs. OEMs which are not really interested in supporting their hardware past its warranty.

Re:Continuing to sell an item with a known defect?

By sjames • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

D-Link are still touting it on their website and it's still on sale new in the box from Target, Walmart, Newegg, and Amazon. Apparently, right up until they realized they might have to actually do something with the firmware, it was the latest and greatest and absolutely the perfect solution for your home network needs (complete with cutting edge cloud features). Now, it suddenly became EOL. So quickly they forgot to mention that on their website.

My point is, as far as at least some of the owners know, it's not even 24 hours old.

If I buy an old home/SOHO router, even new in the box from the flea market, AS-IS, yeah, I can't reasonably expect much in the way of support but that's not what's happening here.

US Expands Blacklist To Include China's Top AI Startups Ahead of Trade Talks

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: The U.S. government widened its trade blacklist to include some of China's top artificial intelligence startups, punishing Beijing for its treatment of Muslim minorities and ratcheting up tensions ahead of high-level trade talks in Washington this week. The decision, which drew a sharp rebuke from Beijing, targets 20 Chinese public security bureaus and eight companies including video surveillance firm Hikvision, as well as leaders in facial recognition technology SenseTime Group Ltd and Megvii Technology Ltd. The action bars the firms from buying components from U.S. companies without U.S. government approval -- a potentially crippling move for some of them. It follows the same blueprint used by Washington in its attempt to limit the influence of Huawei for what it says are national security reasons. The Commerce Department said in a filing the "entities have been implicated in human rights violations and abuses in the implementation of China's campaign of repression, mass arbitrary detention, and high-technology surveillance against Uighurs, Kazakhs, and other members of Muslim minority groups." "The U.S. Government and Department of Commerce cannot and will not tolerate the brutal suppression of ethnic minorities within China," said Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross.

In response, foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said the U.S. should stop interfering in its affairs and that it will continue to take firm and resolute measures to protect its sovereign security.


By 110010001000 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Good. I don't like Trump, but we need to stop the Chinese government. They are not our friends.


By yuriklastalov • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Normally if we wanted to put pressure on them we'd coordinate with our allies, but that's a non-starter. Our relations with the rest of the world are bad.

I'd say it's less that than our allies are inextricably tied to China, too, and those governments have varying degrees of willingness to upset the apple cart. If you go hard against China there will be retaliation, and political blow back from any economic disruptions this causes are a source of existential fear for politicians of all kinds.

Just look at all the shit Trump gets for not seeming to care about the impact of his trade war. No ordinary politician can withstand that kind of push back, or at least they don't believe they can.

Thunderbird Announces OpenPGP Support

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doconnor writes: On the Mozilla Thunderbird blog it was announced that for the future Thunderbird 78 release, planned for summer 2020, they will add built-in functionality for email encryption and digital signatures using the OpenPGP standard. This addresses a feature request opened on Bugzilla almost 20 years ago and has been one of the top voted bugs for most of that period.

Re:Noone Ever Heard of Enigmail?

By doconnor • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Enigmail will no longer be supported in the future Thunderbird releases because of API changes.


By 110010001000 • Score: 3 • Thread

This makes me feel like it is 2002. OpenPGP? Thunderbird? The ship has sailed on all of that. Too late and no one cared even back then.

Argh. They rolled their own file format.

By Mike Van Pelt • Score: 3 • Thread

It isn't going to be able to use your existing gpg key files. You will have to export your keys from gpg in order to import them into Enigmabird.

Re:Noone Ever Heard of Enigmail?

By Ungrounded Lightning • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Enigmail is a seamlessly integrated security add-on for Mozilla Thunderbird and Postbox. It allows you to use OpenPGP to encrypt and digitally sign your emails and to decrypt and verify messages you receive.

Enigmail is free software. It can be freely used, modified and distributed under the terms of the Mozilla Public License

Enigmail will no longer be supported in the future Thunderbird releases because of API changes.

Let's see...
  - Thunderbird hasn't had built-in support for OpenPGP, though it's been on the to-do list for 20 years.
  - But there has been this "seamlessly integrated" Enigmail add-on that provides the requested support.
  - Now they are doing something that will break the interface used by the add-on.
  - And losing the add-on means a large part of their user base won't be able to use OpenPGP with the newer-and-improveder Thunderbird.
  - But they happen to chose this same release to implement the 20 year old feature request that Enigmail covered for them. Which happens to serve exactly those users who otherwise would be left without built-in encrypted mail.

What a coincidence! B-)

Other 19-year old bugs

By jabberw0k • Score: 3 • Thread
Would be nice if other almost-twenty-year-old bugs could be addressed, like writing to LDAP address-books. At this rate, it might be another few centuries...

Bipartisan Senate Report Calls For Sweeping Effort To Prevent Russian Interference in 2020 Election

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A bipartisan panel of U.S. senators Tuesday called for sweeping action by Congress, the White House and Silicon Valley to ensure social media sites aren't used to interfere in the coming presidential election, delivering a sobering assessment about the weaknesses that Russian operatives exploited in the 2016 campaign. From a report: The Senate Intelligence Committee, a Republican-led panel that has been investigating foreign electoral interference for more than two and a half years, said in blunt language that Russians worked to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton while bolstering Republican Donald Trump -- and made clear that fresh rounds of interference are likely ahead of the 2020 vote. "Russia is waging an information warfare campaign against the U.S. that didn't start and didn't end with the 2016 election," said Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the committee's chairman. "Their goal is broader: to sow societal discord and erode public confidence in the machinery of government. By flooding social media with false reports, conspiracy theories, and trolls, and by exploiting existing divisions, Russia is trying to breed distrust of our democratic institutions and our fellow Americans." Though the 85-page report itself had extensive redactions, in the visible sections lawmakers urged their peers in Congress to act, including through the potential adoption of new regulations that would make who bought an ad more transparent. The report also called on the White House and the executive branch to adopt a more forceful, public role, warning Americans about the ways in which dangerous misinformation can spread while creating new teams within the U.S. government to monitor for threats and share intelligence with industry.

Re:Bipartisan, huh.

By spun • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

There is a huge amount of effort to find illegal aliens voting. If even ONE case were found, do you honestly expect us to believe that Republicans would ever cease crowing about it? We're not that ignorant.

If you have evidence for any of the claims you make, why are you not contacting Fox News RIGHT NOW so they can tell the world? You have nothing except for a wild imagination.

Re:And yet, Republicans defend obstruction of just

By WalrusSlayer • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

And worse, people believe in the Big Lies they spew with the MSM as the party mouth-piece.

Oh for the good old days of Slashdot where "citation needed" actually meant something.

Re: No

By KixWooder • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
No she is not, and you haven't been hearing that. Stop being an idiot.

Re:Bipartisan, huh.

By jrumney • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

A lot of effort was put into it. One of the first things Trump did in early 2017 was to start an investigation into "all the illegals voting" in Democratic states. You never heard the outcome of that investigation? I wonder why.

Re: Bipartisan, huh.

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

How backwards is it that "someone might lose their docs, so we shouldn't secure the ballot"

Not at all.

compared to "someone might lose their docs and have a hard time replacing them, so let's fix that, and maintain the integrity of our elections"

The fact is that voter ID is unnecessary to maintain the integrity of our elections. You are presenting a false dichotomy.

Nobel Prize in Physics: 2019 Winners Made Significant Cosmological Discoveries

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The Nobel Prize in physics for 2019 was awarded to three scientists on Tuesday for groundbreaking work on the evolution of the universe and Earth's place in it. From a report: Their discoveries have forever "transformed our ideas about the cosmos" and helped answer fundamental questions about existence, said the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. Half of the award went to James Peebles, a physicist with Princeton University, for developing a theoretical framework that traces the the history of the universe, from the Big Bang to present day. His contributions to the Big Bang model and other work led to insights that just 5% of the universe is known matter -- everything from stars to plants to humans -- and the remaining 95% is unknown dark matter and dark energy. "When I started working in this subject -- I can tell you the date, 1964 -- at the invitation of my mentor, Professor Robert Henry Dicke, I was very uneasy about going into this subject because the experimental observational basis was so modest. ... I just kept going," Peebles said during a news conference, according to Princeton University. "Which particular step did I take? I would be very hard-pressed to say. It's a life's work."

The other half was jointly awarded to Michel Mayor, an astrophysicist with the University of Geneva, and Didier Queloz, an astronomer with the University of Geneva and University of Cambridge, for the first discovery of a planet outside our solar system. In October 1995, the two scientists discovered the first exoplanet in the Milky Way, planet 51 Pegasi b. Since their initial discovery, more than 4,000 exoplanets have been found in our home galaxy, according to the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

transformed our ideas about the cosmos?

By fat man's underwear • Score: 3 • Thread

Really? More than when we found out the Universe is more than the Milky Way?

"In 1919, when Hooker Telescope was completed, the prevailing view still was that the Universe consisted entirely of the Milky Way Galaxy."

The modern conception of what we think of the universe is only 100 years old!

Nobel Prize in Medicine Goes To 3 Scientists For Discovering How Cells Use Oxygen

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Dave Knott writes: Two Americans and a British scientist won the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine on Monday for discovering details of how the body's cells sense and react to low oxygen levels, providing a foothold for developing new treatments for anemia, cancer and other diseases. Drs. William G. Kaelin Jr., of Harvard University and the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Gregg L. Semenza, of Johns Hopkins University, and Peter J. Ratcliffe, at the Francis Crick Institute and Oxford University, won the prize. They "revealed the mechanism for one of life's most essential adaptive processes," the Nobel committee said.

It's actually pretty cool

By hey! • Score: 3 • Thread

how there are still a lot of pretty fundamental stuff we don't know, stuff with useful applications.

Activision Blizzard Suspends 'Hearthstone' Pro Player for Supporting Hong Kong Protests

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Activision Blizzard suspended Hearthstone pro Chung "Blitzchung" Ng Wai on Tuesday after he spoke up in support of protests in Hong Kong during a post-match interview during Hearsthone's Asia-Pacific Grandmaster tournament on October 6. From a report: Two days later, on October 8, Activision Blizzard suspended him from competing in Hearthstone esports tournaments for a year, rescinded his $3000 winnings from the tournament, and fired the two people who interviewed him. Each year, Hearhstone's best players compete in regional tournaments that narrow the field to 48 Grandmasters. After the regionals, the Grandmasters play for a $500,000 prize pool. After winning a match in the Asia-Pacific regional, Chung streamed a post-victory interview while wearing ski goggles and a gas mask, a look often worn by protestors in Hong Kong to mitigate the effects of tear gas. "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our time," Chung said on the stream, a phrase that's become a rallying cry for protestors in Hong Kong.

Re:When will people learn about social media??

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

People just don't understand the concept that they'd better be prepared for consequences if they speak out on a fully public platform

Yeah! Do as you're told and you won't get hurt!

Companies aren't going to protect people who go against their potential revenue streams.

That's why we have to unite against their revenue streams when they use them to do evil. Anything else would be cowardly.

Re:Boycott Activision

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

This is no different than those who became wealthy off Nazi gold in WWII.

The US government derived wealth from selling fuel to the Reich. They knew it was happening, permitted it to continue pretty much throughout the war, then seized the profits afterwards.

The Japanese Zero fighter (famously used in Kamikaze attacks, with its magnesium engine block) was made by Mitsubishi out of Alcoa aluminum.

The contract for maintenance of the IBM concentration camp management computers was paid straight to Armonk, NY, though their German office did deliver the machines, and get the punch cards printed up.

No need to reach for the Nazi gold example, there's plenty of directly commerce-related ones to work with when you want to invoke WWII. And for that matter, we had solid intelligence that the holocaust was occurring, but we pretended we didn't so that we could wait to enter the war until our "allies" had been bombed repeatedly, and had bombed Germany. Then we bombed Japan, so that everyone but us would be at a disadvantage, and enjoyed several decades as the world's uncontested superpower.

Oh yeah, and Prescott Bush ran a company whose purpose was to funnel money to the Nazis, and was permitted to keep a million dollars of those profits after the war even though the company was seized. That became the basis of the Bush family fortune...

Streisand much?

By Marc_Hawke • Score: 3 • Thread

I don't care anything about Hearthstone or professional gaming. I had no idea they had things called grandmasters.

However, because of this action by Activision, I now know all about a guy who supported the Hong Kong protesters that I never would have heard of otherwise.

Re: What is up with all these tech companies?!?

By ArmoredDragon • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

By giving them every free pass and blank cheque in the book on human rights while waging a dumbass trade war that also doesn't give a shit about human rights?

Honestly I think if it weren't for the trade war, China would be cracking down harder on the Hong Kong protesters. Before the trade war, it would have been very hard to for the US to sanction China for human rights abuses, but now that trade with them has cooled down quite a bit already, the prospect of that isn't so far out. Supply chains have already adjusted a good deal to compensate for the additional costs of dealing with China, and continue to do so.

This means that other countries can now reasonably build up their infrastructure to be able to better serve as an alternative to China going forward, also meaning that the damage to China's economic "moat" is going endure for quite some time, possibly even indefinitely. In other words, even if the trade war were to end tomorrow, China now has a lot more competition going forward, and the longer this persists, the worse it gets.

This also means that it is easier for other countries to participate in a sanction of China. This is a problem because the state of China's economy has put their government in a situation where it needs all of the trade partners that it can get, which means it's no longer in the position to just do whatever the hell it wants without having to deal with any consequences. That includes doing whatever it wants with Hong Kong.

So long as the trade war persists, time is on Hong Kong's side, which puts pressure on China to deal with the situation amicably. Resisting the demands of the protesters has only caused the situation to worsen for China, and continuing to do so will just drag it out longer.

Hong Kong

By Schmo Schollie • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
Has the right to operate as an independent territory under prior agreements. These people should be protesting because it's their given right to be a sovereign territory outside of Chinese authoritarian control. The Hong Kong government is screwing over the rights of its citizens.

To ban someone over supporting truly unjust decisions perpetrated on the people of Hong Kong is absurd.

Apple's Merged iPad, Mac Apps Leave Developers Uneasy, Users Paying Twice

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Last year, Apple software chief Craig Federighi said developers would be able to easily bring their iPad apps to Mac computers, essentially letting coders write an app once and deploy it across millions more devices. So far, the reality has fallen short for some developers and is even leaving consumers paying twice for apps. From a report: Major app developers and service providers like Netflix are also demurring on taking part, at least at this early stage. Apple rolled out Catalyst, the technology to transition iPad apps into Mac versions, on Monday. It's the initial step toward a bigger goal: By 2021, developers should be able to build an app once and have it work on iPhones, iPads and Mac computers through a single, unified App Store. But the first iteration, which appears to still be quite raw and in a number of ways frustrating to developers, risks upsetting users who may have to pay again when they download the Mac version of an iPad app they've already bought.

"As a user, I don't want to pay again just to have the same app," said longtime Apple developer Steven Troughton-Smith. "As a developer, I don't want my users to have to make that decision." James Thompson has had to work harder than he expected to get his popular PCalc calculator iPad app running well on Mac computers. Getting paid a second time for that extra work makes sense for developers, but consumers may not immediately understand that after Apple made the porting process sound as easy as checking a box, he said. Kevin Reutter, who has brought his Planny app to Mac computers, called the situation "sad."

So what?

By Opportunist • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

They should be used to it by now.

Re:Tell me when Macs have a touch screen.

By postmortem • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I don't think they will get rid of macs simply because Apple ties Xcode to macs and makes them at least profitable enough to keep running.

Touch screen on macs? Apple saw what happened to Windows 8 and skipped that.

Re:Tell me when Macs have a touch screen.

By jellomizer • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I used Macs primarily in the 2000's as they were really good laptops, packed full of new features that most other vendors didn't have, especially in one package. Things like Wi-Fi, and support of a Gig of RAM all on a thin form factor on my G4 PowerBook, Then a lighter case, extremely high quality screen, Video Camera, back lit keyboard, and duel core on the MacBook Pro. Yes you can probably get custom to give you these features, back during the time, but it was difficult to get them in a portable attractive frame (as I was doing consulting at the time, and having a Fancy Laptop actually did impress)

However after Apple started selling laptops with non-replaceable batteries, and not putting in touch displays, other manufactures were upping on the feature war so I decided to go with a good old (Well it was a new model) Think Pad after that.

Re:Tell me when Macs have a touch screen.

By DontBeAMoran • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

... Then a lighter case, extremely high quality screen, Video Camera, back lit keyboard, and duel core on the MacBook Pro.

Oh man, duel core processors are the worst. Instead of running the OS and applications, each core keeps fighting the other one.

Re:Walled Garden Expansion

By DontBeAMoran • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Can you point out for us on the doll where Apple hurt you?

[Points at the doll's wallet]

Sony Confirms PlayStation 5 Name, Holiday 2020 Release Date

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Sony has confirmed that its next-generation console will be called the PlayStation 5, and it'll be out next year, launching in time for "Holiday 2020." From a report: The company also announced several changes that it'll be making to the controller on the PS5. Chief among them is replacing the current rumble technology that Sony has been using since the original PlayStation for new haptic feedback technology that it promises will offer a "broader range of feedback." The other big change that Sony is talking about today is a technology it's calling "adaptive triggers," which will go in the primary R2/L2 triggers on the PS5's controller. According to Sony, developers will be able to "program the resistance of the triggers," giving the example that you'll be able to "feel" the increased tension as you draw back a bow or force you to push down with extra pressure if you're driving through rough terrain. It sounds pretty similar to a Microsoft patent from earlier this year, which detailed a similar trigger system for a future Xbox controller.

PlayStation 5?

By UnknowingFool • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
What is this witchcraft of naming a system sequentially? I would have followed the MicroSoft naming guidelines and called it PlayStation Incremental Last Ultimate Vertical Ultra. (PS I LUV U).

US Using Trade Deals To Shield Tech Giants From Foreign Regulators

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The Trump administration has begun inserting legal protections into recent trade agreements that shield online platforms like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube from lawsuits, a move that could help lock in America's tech-friendly regulations around the world even as they are being newly questioned at home. From a report: The protections, which stem from a 1990s law, have already been tucked into the administration's two biggest trade deals -- the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement and a pact with Japan that President Trump signed on Monday. American negotiators have proposed including the language in other prospective deals, including with the European Union, Britain and members of the World Trade Organization. The administration's push is the latest salvo in a global fight over who sets the rules for the internet. While the rules for trading goods have largely been written -- often by the United States -- the world has far fewer standards for digital products. Countries are rushing into this vacuum, and in most cases writing regulations that are far more restrictive than the tech industry would prefer.

Europe has enacted tough policies to curb the behavior of companies like Facebook and Google and passed laws to deal with privacy, hate speech and disinformation. China has largely cordoned itself off from the rest of the internet, allowing Beijing to censor political content and bolster Chinese tech companies like Alibaba and Tencent. In India, Indonesia, Russia and Vietnam, governments are introducing regulations to ostensibly protect their citizens' privacy and build domestic internet industries that critics say will stymie the ability of American companies to provide services in those countries. The United States wants its more permissive rules to form the basis for worldwide regulation. But there is a rising debate about whether its regime of internet regulations has failed to protect consumer privacy, encouraged the spread of disinformation and supported a powerful forum for harassment and bullying.

The American rules, codified in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, shield online platforms from many lawsuits related to user content and protect them from legal challenges stemming from how they moderate content. Those rules are largely credited with fueling Silicon Valley's rapid growth. The language in the trade deals echoes those provisions but contains some differences. That freedom has come under intense criticism from lawmakers and advocates. They say the 23-year-old law has allowed companies like Facebook and Google to avoid responsibility for harm associated with content that reaches billions of users. That anger has been compounded by revelations about the role of Silicon Valley's business practices in the spread of disinformation and treatment of user data.

Diplomatic immunity for corporates

By mrbester • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread

... is what this boils down to. Companies operating in foreign countries should adhere to the laws of that country. I have to, so why not them?

Re:Diplomatic immunity for corporates

By mysidia • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I have to, so why not them?

Because you are one person -- fully subject to the laws of whichever soil you happen to be standing upon at a given moment.

A corporation on the other hand is many people acting as a unit -- They do some things in one country and simultaneously in another.
  Their worldwide actions should not be able to be held hostage of the whims of country X just because they do business on country X. Country X should only be capable of regulating their affairs that occur within side of the boundaries of Country X.

The internet is a worldwide communications medium. For example; If I publish a statement that is critical of the leaders of country X to Facebook, and I don't live or work in country X and didn't post it while I was visiting country X, then my post is still visible in ALL countries in which Facebook operates. Just because Country X has Anti-free-speech laws and the statement concerns them does not mean they ought to be capable of forcing a worldwide corporation to take down that post worldwide (So that even people outside country X can no longer see it).

Re:Pretty sure the EU won't back down

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

It's worse than that, even the hardest of hard line Brexiteers like Nigel Farage promised a Norway style deal, as soon as they won the vote they went full on hard line destroy the British economy batshit no-deal.

We have to have a second referendum just to confirm that people actually want full on hard line destroy the British economy batshit no-deal, because literally no one offered that during the original referendum so the idea people voted for it is a farce because it just wasn't offered by even the most hardline Brexiteers as an option.

The sad thing is, a Norway style option would probably be enough of a compromise to keep most remainers and leavers happy if proposed as a serious option, it could command a majority, it's what was promised to voters as the leave option so would be democratically the most accurate option. If this was being proposed a second referendum wouldn't be necessary, but what's promised isn't being proposed, so a second referendum is absolutely necessary - anything else is democratically invalid because nothing else such as no-deal were promised.

But in this polarised world there is no compromise, there's just "Thanks for voting for, we'll use this as an excuse to do something literally no one has ever had the chance to vote on and give you Y". It would all be less farcical if it weren't for the fact that when parliament or the Lords act to stop no deal the Brexiteers cry and moan about how anti-democratic this is, forgetting the fact that it was the hardline Brexiteers that fought to keep the electoral system we have in 2011 and that scuppered Lords reform. They're literally complaining that the system they argued must stay the same to protect democracy is protecting democracy now that they're the threat to it.

Every single vote since 2016 - general elections, local elections, by-elections, European elections has had a majority for either soft Brexit (i.e. Norway style) or no Brexit as in the European elections which again is significant evidence that there isn't, nor has their ever been a mandate for no-deal. Out of hundreds of polls 99% of them have also shown no majority for no deal - no deal has never managed to garner more than about 36% support at it's absolute best when the poll is in it's favour. The idea it has any democratic mandate is a farce, so yes, there has to be a change of tact to either a second referendum to gain support for no deal if that's what the hard right now want, or a form of Brexit such as the Norway model which is what people actually voted for.

Re: Pretty sure the EU won't back down

By bickerdyke • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Because if you repeat an election or any public vote until you like the result, you could have done away with it from the beginning.

That first vote was either binding or useless.

What makes it even worse: it was never asked what they wanted instead of the EU, so that got them into the clusterfuck the British government is as of now.

Re:Diplomatic immunity for corporates

By beepsky • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Because the internet isn't actually European soil.
I know, it's shocking. but the internet is actually its own thing that transcends national borders.
I could be running my website from anywhere on the planet (or even space) other than the EU, so why should I give even half a shit about EU law?

Chinese Firms Tencent, Vivo, and CCTV Suspend Ties With the NBA Over Hong Kong Tweet

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Smartphone maker Vivo, broadcaster CCTV, and internet giant Tencent said today they are suspending all cooperation with the National Basketball Association, becoming the latest Chinese firms to cut ties with the league after a tweet from a Houston Rockets executive supporting Hong Kong's pro-democracy protesters offended many in the world's most populous nation. From a report: Vivo, which is a key sponsor for the upcoming exhibition games to be played in Shanghai and Shenzhen this week, said in a statement on Chinese social networking platform Weibo, that it was "dissatisfied" with Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey's views on Hong Kong. In a tweet over the weekend, Morey voiced his support for protesters in Hong Kong. He said, "Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong." Even as he quickly moved to delete the tweet and the NBA attempted to smoothen the dialogue, Morey's views had offended many in China, which maintains a low tolerance for criticism of its political system. In a statement, the NBA said it was "regrettable" that Morey's views had "deeply offended many of our friends and fans in China." This stance from the NBA, which has grown accustomed to seeing its star players speak freely and criticize anyone they wish including the U.S. president Donald Trump, in turn, offended many.

Earlier today, Chinese state broadcaster CCTV said it was also suspending broadcasts of the league's games to be played in China. China remains a key strategic nation for the NBA. According to official figures, more than 600 million viewers in China watched the NBA content during the 2017-18 season. The league's five-year partnership with Chinese tech giant Tencent for digital streaming rights of matches is reported to be worth $1.5 billion. In a statement issued today, Tencent Sports said it was "temporarily suspending" the pre-season broadcast arrangements.

Re: South Park

By LostMyAccount • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

You're right, but a lot of their power is just marketing bullshit.

Professional basketball is kind of a joke to watch, it's all low effort until the last 5 minutes. But people have been convinced its somehow good basketball.

You can pay about $10 around here and see any of a number of D-III college teams play and actually watch some good, hard played games. Half the time you can watch the same two schools women's team play first in a double header for the same admission. Hell, it's often more exciting watching a couple of well-matched high school or 8th grade club teams than snooze-fest pro team regular season games. And none of this includes the vast amount of D-I college ball.

Admittedly the pro game is more interesting as you wade into the playoffs. But overall the pros are all about marketing 90% of the time.

Re:Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong

By alvinrod • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
Just as no one mentions Winnie the Pooh in the same sentence as President Xi Jinping I think we ought to be safe. It's not like we have conversations about Tiananmen Square or Falun Gong around here that might get the site banned. I think we can still talk about them putting Uighurs in camps though because China already knows that everyone else already knows but that no one really cares.

Hopefully none of that gets classified as hate speech though. Then we'd have to take it down ourselves.

Re:South Park

By drinkypoo • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Well, seemingly nearly twice as many people watched the NBA in China as there are people in the US in total (watching NBA or otherwise). I fear they will be thinking about that when picking which values to follow...

They can fuck off to China, then, and good riddance. All professional sports seem to be sleazy AF in one way or another, and usually a whole bunch of ways.


By Daralantan • Score: 3 • Thread

offended many in the world's most populous nation

Worded like it offended millions and millions... when it just offended a few of the big babies running the government.

This whole thread is offensive.

By Impy the Impiuos Imp • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

after a tweet from a Houston Rockets executive supporting Hong Kong's pro-democracy protesters offended many in the world's most populous nation

It offended no one. It stepped on the toes of a dictatorship so powerful its captured citizens kneeled reflexively. That's not the same thing.

It does no honesty to couch it in terms of "offense", the method of control over speech in the west.

China Is Breeding Giant Pigs the Size of Polar Bears

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: In a farm deep in the southern region of China lives a very big pig that's as heavy as a polar bear. The 500 kilogram, or 1,102 pound, animal is part of a herd that's being bred to become giant swine. At slaughter, some of the pigs can sell for more than 10,000 yuan ($1,399), over three times higher than the average monthly disposable income in Nanning, the capital of Guangxi province where Pang Cong, the farm's owner, lives. While Pang's pigs may be an extreme example of the lengths farmers are going to fill China's swelling pork shortage problem, the idea that bigger is better has been spreading across the country, home to the world's most voracious consumers of the meat.

High pork prices in the northeastern province of Jilin is prompting farmers to raise pigs to reach an average weight of 175 kilograms to 200 kilograms, higher than the normal weight of 125 kilograms. They want to raise them "as big as possible,"said Zhao Hailin, a hog farmer in the region. The trend isn't limited to small farms either. Major protein producers in China, including Wens Foodstuffs Group Co, the country's top pig breeder, Cofco Meat Holdings Ltd. and Beijing Dabeinong Technology Group Co. say they are trying to increase the average weight of their pigs. Big farms are focusing on boosting the heft by at least 14%, said Lin Guofa, a senior analyst with consulting firm Bric Agriculture Group. The average weight of pigs at slaughter at some large-scale farms has climbed to as much as 140 kilograms, compared with about 110 kilograms normally, Lin said. That could boost profits by more than 30%, he said.

Re:Space Truckers

By Freischutz • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Next up, square hogs for easier transport.

No, pigs with wings. I just ordered a whole flock of them from China, there are several individuals who'll find themselves honoring promises they never thought they'd have to keep. Oh, and if you thought birds shitting on your car was bad, just wait till my flock of free range flying cows arrives.

Uh huh.

By doubledown00 • Score: 3 • Thread
And what carcinogenic chemicals are they feeding these pigs to achieve these impressive weights?

North Korean Technology

By PolygamousRanchKid • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

I'm thinking that the Chinese used the same North Korean technology that created Kim Jong-un. That's about his size and weight.

Now it would be creepy if the pigs also had his facial features, as well.

Forget General Tso's chicken . . . welcome Supreme Leader Kim's pork!

Manual Handling

By minorproblem • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

I've done butchery in my youth and most pork we eat in the west is reared for ~6 months, and reaches a weight of about 250-300lb. Once the carcass has been processed it is a good size for handling in your average butchers shop and has a good fat content for making your typical cuts and sausages.

I can't imagine must bigger would be more efficient as you would need to rear the pigs for much longer. Probably have to be much more careful about disease as the animals get bigger and more prone to injury. Also how the hell do you handle such a massive animal? You would get so much bruising on the meat during slaughter!

If they want to fix the pork shortage maybe implement better animal hygiene as the animal numbers could be recovered quickly afterwards.


By Roodvlees • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Wild animals are working hard to survive and fighting starvation and predators every day.
When wild animals die it's a slow and painful death due to starvation or a quick one being ripped apart alive.
Would you enjoy seeing your family members being eaten? I wouldn't
Factory animals don't have to work, are dry, safe and well fed.
Usually their deaths are painless and without drama, although problems do exist.
If you're against factory farming, are you against all life?
If your argument is that it's not natural for animals to live in factories, do you live in a cave?
Stone houses and hot food aren't 'natural' either, but they do allow humans to have an higher average life span than 25.
So to me something being natural or unnatural means nothing.

You Can Now Overclock a Raspberry Pi 4 For Some Nice Performance Gains

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MojoKid writes: The Raspberry Pi 4 is one of the cheapest single-board computers around. The new 4th generation is a solid performance lift over its predecessor and good bang for the buck if you're interested in learning Linux, working with embedded computing, or just want to kick back and play some retro games on an emulator. In addition, the latest version of the Raspberry Pi Foundation's Linux distribution, Raspbian Buster, comes with a new firmware revision for the tiny DIY PC that removes its 2GHz clock speed limit and allows voltage adjustments to wring out additional performance, with proper cooling of course. In testing, while there are no guarantees in overclocking, HotHardware was able to realize more than a 40% lift in their Raspberry Pi 4's processor clock speed, and a 50% boost to the GPU with an air-cooled mini case kit. Combined, they're not enough to turn the Pi 4 into your every day PC, but the performance gains are measurable and valuable. All it takes is a quick firmware update and a couple of Linux commands to dial things in.


By sad_ • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

more interested in underclocking.
the raspi4 already runs hot as it is, the need to add additional cooling is totally missing the point of what made the previous versions so great.
usable for any little project, with small and thight space requirements, run and forget, etc.
lowering the cpu speed could also increase battery life, for those that use the raspi in a battery powered project.


By Viol8 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

What are you going to do with a Pi that requires more than a few hundred Mhz never mind the standard 2Ghz clock speed? I'm sure its fun to overclock these things from a technical perspective, but its also utterly pointless.

Re: Why?

By KixWooder • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Re:Therr are cheaper ways to create a bonfire ...

By ArchieBunker • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

I have to bring up this point every time. The Pi was never meant as a desktop replacement or a media center or an open source hardware design. It was created to bring down the price of single board computers for students to learn with. I'll say it again. Price was the only consideration during the design phase. Before the Pi single board computers were still over $100. This is so students can write some code and use the IO pins to interface with more hardware. The fact that it runs Linux is incidental.


By DrYak • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

TL;DR: Yes, they had students in mind, but that pushed them to make a lot of choice that made the platform interesting for everybody else.

It was created to bring down the price of single board computers for students to learn with. I'll say it again. Price was the only consideration during the design phase.

Price, yes.

- ...And being able to use "whatever you have laying around" peripherals.
(hence using microUSB for power because you're bound to have a couple left from other gizmos, hence the capability to just throttle down instead of brown out if said charger is anemic, hence using HDMI (or earlier: composite) for easy connecting to any TV/PC monitor. Using SD cards or even USB stick (Pi3 and up ) for booting. Using standard USB peripherals for input.)
which also helps bringing down the price by avoiding to need to buy extra peripherals, increasing afforadbility by students.

- ...Also mass-produced with long availability (a school could build a teaching course around Pis and the student will still be able to get the necessary hardware couple of years laters. Contrast with any SBC that you see on Kickstarter/Indiegogo and rarely go to live any longer than said campaign, if even that long).

- ...Also running an OS and a software stack that would be affordable to the students without relying on expensive licenses. (Hence Linux and not Windows XPe nor any industrial real-time OS - even if that last one was technically supported).

Before the Pi single board computers were still over $100. This is so students can write some code and use the IO pins to interface with more hardware.

Yeah, but to achieve that, you need to balance all the above goals, and once you have that, it's a dream product for all the hardware hacking people and other uses (media center) due to most of the same reasons.

And then these users drive demand up, helping drive the production costs down due to bigger volume scales and thus indirectly *help* the student having it even cheaper.

The fact that it runs Linux is incidental.

It has to be used by students. Linux comes at the top of the list of OSes with a cheap license that the student and the school can afford.
(Maybe the school could have tried to negociate some volumne licensing of Microsoft Windows XPe, but it performance would have been craptastic.
And forget about anything industrial real-time os, unless the school has an extremely rich donor).

The crazy success of Linux in that niche is probably when shocked Microsoft with surprise into eventually developing Windows IoT.

Raspberry Pi being initially done for students, makes me thing a bit like the IBM PC was done with one single purpose in mind (IBM try to get a slice of the "personal computers" pie, specially since those started to pop-up in business settings - a setting that until recently was IBM's bread-and-butter (that's what "B" in their name stands for) with their mainframes).
But by doing so the inadvertently became a whole industry standard (by rushing into the market while late, IBM build their PC exclusively out of widely available cheap off the shelf parts. But that meant that any competitor could take the same cheap parts off the same metaphorical shelf and built a PC-compatible.)

(This was made even easier due to the special licensing deal with Microsoft which allowed them to continue selling MS-DOS on their own, and due to Phoenix who managed to make a clean room re-implementation of the BIOS).

First Meat Grown In Space Lab 248 Miles From Earth

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The Israeli food technology startup Aleph Farms has successfully cultured meat in space for the first time. The Guardian reports: Aleph Farms grew the meat on the International Space Station, 248 miles (399 km) away from any natural resources. Bovine cells were harvested on Earth and taken to space, where they were grown into small-scale muscle tissue using a 3D bioprinter. The method relies on mimicking a natural process of muscle-tissue regeneration occurring inside a cow's body. The experiment took place on September 26 on the Russian segment of the space station, and involved the assembly of small-scale muscle tissue in a 3D bioprinter under controlled microgravity conditions. In future the technique could be used to provide meat for people living on the space station.


By backslashdot • Score: 3 • Thread

While this is a useful advance, it should be pointed out that all kinds of tissue/cells including muscle tissue has been cultured in space before .. they just didn't call it meat. It's more of a labelling thing. Like how organic means its safe. Organic hemlock and organic cobra venom, all much safer than synthetic chemicals?

Poor Man's Replicator

By johnsie • Score: 3 • Thread
This is some very basic tech. We're going to need something a lot better than this if we're to explore strange new worlds and go boldly (fixed the split infinitive in the grammar) where no one has gone before.

Re:Technically Speaking...

By PolygamousRanchKid • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Laika was the first meat grown in space.

Laika was also the first meat cooked in space.

Meat, not "Meat".

By DrYak • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Just like I can believe it's not butter... but don't have to, since it's blatantly obvious ...

"I can't believe it's not butter" is about making a different substance that more or less looks and tastes vaguely the same.

Whereas that specific "Meat" is just meat.

not just 30 years later, when the load of denatured protein, lack of vital substances, unnatural composition of ingredients on a chemical level, and process chemicals have ruined my digestive system and given me all those diseases that we all know and hate

We are not talking about "Impossible meat" or any of the other trendy "100% pure vegan meat replacements" that try to create something that might look a bit like meat from afar, despite being made from completely different things.

We are talking about meat that is basically just meat. i.e.: just muscle tissue, except that specific chunk of muscle was grown alone in a metaphorical petri-dish, instead of being grown with a whole rest of animal around it.
But it's still muscle cells with all the same composition as average muscle cells. No "unnatural composition" or whatever.
Chemically speaking, it's exactly the same composition as muscles cells from an animal (because they are literally the same type of cells), and the end burger patty will mostly be the same (roughly - except a real burger also has fat cells and a bunch of other stuff mixed in, whereas the sources linked mention only muscle cells in that specific example). The only difference is that its way much cheaper, because you only need to ship a few cells, not a whole multi-100s-of-kg weighting animal (and the cost-per-kg of shipping to space is currently horrendous *).

but believe are due to old age because they thanks to our amazing bodies, take longer to emerge than our attention span.

Not speaking about the butter/meat/whatever replacements. But *some* substances used in the food and agriculture industry have been studies for quite some time and modern science has a very rough idea of the dangerosity linked to their consumption.


(*)- Currently you would still need to ship the nutrients for both situation (the stuff you grow your culture upon or the feedstock to feed the animal with), but eventually that's also something that growable in space.
Ideally, in the future you would want to only ship the human into space and any food they might be requiring being locally produced there.
3d printing and then growing cultures of cells is one way to solve the problem (while being a bit less taxing to the life support system than a whole animal),
that's why, in addition of being a giant publicity stunt for aleph, there might also be some genuine interest into the tech.
The obvious alternative being raising small edible animal that aren't too taxing (Chickens in space? South american-style Guinea pigs in space ?)

Food of the future

By stealth_finger • Score: 3 • Thread
Giant pigs or space meat. All served up by robobutlers riding hoverboards.