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Russia May Fine Citizens Who Use SpaceX's Starlink Internet Service

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An anonymous reader quotes Ars Technica: Russia's legislative body, the State Duma, is considering fines for individuals and companies in the country that use Western-based satellite Internet services. The proposed law seeks to prevent accessing the Internet by means of SpaceX's Starlink service, OneWeb, or other non-Russian satellite constellations under development. According to a recent report in the Russian edition of Popular Mechanics, the recommended fines range from 10,000 to 30,000 rubles ($135-$405) for ordinary users, and from 500,000 to 1 million rubles ($6,750 to $13,500) for legal entities who use the Western satellite services.

In the Russian-language article, translated for Ars by Robinson Mitchell, members of the Duma assert that accessing the Internet independently would bypass the country's System of Operational Search Measures, which monitors Internet use and mobile communications. As part of the country's tight control on media and communications, all Russian Internet traffic must pass through a Russian communications provider. It is not surprising that Russia would take steps to block Starlink service -- the country's space chief, Dmitry Rogozin, views SpaceX as a chief rival in spaceflight.

Re:I hope Russia plans to sell US citizens access.

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I have friends in China. They use a VPN located in America. I pay for it in USD. They pay me back by using WeChat to deposit RMB into my Chinese bank account.

Using services from abroad doesn't mean that a user has a foreign bank account, political connections, or any superpowers. It just means that they know somebody who can help them, or know someone who knows someone.

Re:I predict smuggling.

By ShanghaiBill • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

StarLink isn't really "radio".

StarLink uses 40-75GHz. That is, like, millimeter range microwaves.

It is line-of-sight and uses a narrow beam.

You could maybe detect a transmitter from an aircraft or drone, but it will be hard to do from a ground station.

Re:I don't like where this is going

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

If Musk wants a nuclear arsenal, he can afford it.

Really, the level of idiocy one can experience on Slashdot does not exist even on the flatearther forums.

Re:Attn: Twitter whiners

By getuid() • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Honestly, you pretty much got it backwards.

The net result is the same: you singled out as not being able to communicate. (And: no, "other communications" besides Twitter do not count *if* Twitter is the only game in town; or if you're excluded from all other viable games in town, like Facebook, YouTube, AWS servers in general etc.)

Don't get me wrong, I not pro Trump (or against him, for that matter; I'm not from the US). But when the net result is you not being able to publish and/or receive via generally available methods, this *is* censorship, regardless of who does it. Just because one country or the other inadvertedly found a way to outsource this to private companies doesn't make it less moral.

Re:Attn: Twitter whiners

By getuid() • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

However, it is highly unlikely any basement hosted server isn't going to stand much chance against coordinated DDoS attacks.

This one's actually easy:

0. You're very unlikely to be hit by a DDoS, unless you have something very interesting to say, and are obviously very successful at saying it, or otherwise nobody of importance would notice. But if you are, you're also likely to have enough money for a decent connection (see below).

1. If it happens, don't shit your pants. It's just a DDoS. It's not like your house is on fire or anything. Eventually it'll stop.

2. If you're in a hurry, or you get bored waiting it out, set up a 2nd server somewhere else. And a 3rd. And a 4th. And a 40th. If you have enough people caring for your cause, you can have essentially infinitely many servers.

3. Finally, if you have even mild financial resources to burn, try hooking your Walmart AMD box to a decent connection to begin with. You can try US, but you might want to give some consideration to the former eastern block, e.g. Romania. They have better and cheaper internet than anybody, $10 will buy you Gbit fibre optics there. (You don't need a "cloud" to serve static HTML, just mail your AMD box over. Any DDoS is likely to saturate the connection a lot earlier than your hardware, hence the better your connection, the more leeway you have.) If you don't have even mild money to burn, see above: you're likely not important enough to be DDoS'ed.

Of course, you're all out of luck if you need a PHP + Postgres + Jenkins + Mongo + JavaBeans + JavaSoup + JavaTheIsland + PythonOnRails + HoldOnItWasRuby stack than can't support more than 10 concurrent connections. But then again, your sever isn't about getting heard anymore, it's about your DevOps buddy jerking off.

Likewise you'll need dynamic firewalling or an enterprise WAF, something that protects against zero-day exploits, etc.

Only if you have no idea of IT.

If you do know IT, you'll get a fairly recent Linux or BSD box, patched up to date. Fire up essentially any httpd of your choice (apache or nginx will do, but you can go for smaller, less-known ones, in particular known for tight security, like "gatling").

Make backups. No, really, DO MAKE BACKUPS!

You can have a simple iptables-based firewall if you want to isolate non-public services, if you like. But you're better off not having any non-public services on your publicly facing computer.

In the unlikely event anyone has a 0-day and uses it against you (and we're talking serious $$$ for the attacker here, those things aren't cheap, and they're usually burned after first use), reformat, reinstall, reconnect. If you have backups, that should cost you less than 1 hour of work and $12 in junkfood and beverages before you're up & running again, so let 'em come.

Dynamic firewalls and enterprise WATs are for wimps with too much money to burn, or for people who need to keep 4000 unpatched Windows 7 install safe inside a bug-ridden corporate network (which is essentially the same thing as wimps with too much money to burn).

That is serious money to purchase upfront, and the reason why cloud is ideal for starting out.

I seriously have no clue why anyone in their right minds would think that cloud is good for anything.

Container-based technology, now that's good, if properly employed. It pretty much allows you to do what I've told you: easily redeploy from backups in the case of an event. If they are in your own corporate network. But somebody else's computer, a.k.a. cloud? Why?!

Things have changed considerably since the 1990's.

The thing that's changed most since the '90s is computing power -- we're massively above the level of 30 years ago. As in: even the order-of-magnitude has an order-of-magnitude of its own (we're 10^9 faster, 10^10 if you're prepared to get into some more exotic configurations with multiple GPUs). You can get multi-TFLOPS computing, with TB storage, and GBits data transfer, for a month's salary. Everything else -- how the web works, what a webserver does -- has essentially stagnated in relation to that.

Hosting is more complicated than someone tying up your BBS line SysOp Wallfe Iron.

...but that's exactly what "cloud" is!

Lots of kids with too much time and "knowledge", and not enough thinking skils on their hands, each setting up a whole k8s AWS session for each & every PHP developer to test out their new and shiny online pet food shop. In 2021. Like the product is anything new that couldn't nave been done in the 90s with an i386.

Razer Has Created a Concept N95 Mask With RGB and Voice Projection

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Razer has created a concept reusable N95 respirator called Project Hazel, featuring Chroma RGB LEDs and microphones and amplifiers to project your voice. The Verge reports: It's a concept design with a glossy outside shell made of waterproof and scratch-resistant recycled plastic, which is transparent to allow for lip-reading and seeing facial cues when you chat with people. Currently, there isn't a price or release date attached. Razer refers to Project Hazel as a surgical N95, but it hasn't yet earned any of the necessary approvals and certifications from the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or Occupational Safety and Health Administration. In a statement to The Verge, Razer said it is working with a team of medical experts and scientists who are helping to develop the mask.

The main features of this mask lie within its two circular zones that flank your mouth. They're used for ventilation, giving the device an almost futuristic gas mask look. Razer claims Project Hazel will use active disc-type ventilators, filtering air that's breathed in, as well as the CO2 that's being exhaled. The company adds that it will be certified to filter 95 percent of airborne particles, including the COVID-19 virus and other common pathogens. [...] Microphones and amplifiers embedded in the ventilators will project your voice through the mask, so you won't have to worry about sounding muffled. Razer told us that it's working with THX sound engineers to find a balance in terms of how loud the speakers should be for accessibility purposes. [...] Each of the respirator-meets-amplifier rings can glow in the color of your choosing. And when it gets dark, a set of LEDs activate automatically to shine light on your mouth so others can still see you talk.
The company also envisions that each mask will include a large charging case that sterilizes the mask with UV light when it's not in use.

One other little problem

By raymorris • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

The summary say they are talking to doctors, talking to sound engineers. So in a few months the design will be finalized. A couple months after that their first shipment will arrive from the Chinese contract manufacturer.

Which should be right about the same time the last tranche of people get vaccinated.

Re:Not NIOSH N95 and not flightworthy

By thegarbz • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

In Razer's mask the circles are not valves, but filters.

While that may be the case, good luck arguing that detail with someone who has no clue other than the guidance to not let anyone in with masks that have circlish looking bits.


By ruddk • Score: 3 • Thread

So since it is razer, will it also need their annoying driver that insists that you login to their cloud service just so you can configure the buttons on their mouse? Bought bought their left hand mouse, liked it but are not going to buy another because of their software grrr. :)
(had to remap the keys in their software and not in windows because laptop with touchpad, long story)

Killer features, but...

By geekmux • Score: 3 • Thread

An active mask with LEDs, microphones, amplifiers, and a THX-certified sound experience.

I'm guessing what, seven...maybe eight minutes of battery life?

Hope these things still work in analog mode, in case we already forgot what they're for.

Hard masks are stupid.

By drinkypoo • Score: 3 • Thread

There are a whole bunch of different shapes and sizes of face. A hard mask will only fit one shape, and one size. A mask that doesn't fit your face is absolutely fucking worthless. It doesn't protect anyone from you, and it doesn't protect you from anyone.

This mask will be worthless for not just many or even most people, but almost all people.

US To Require Negative COVID-19 Tests For International Air Passengers

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According to Reuters, the CDC is expected to sign an order on Tuesday requiring nearly all international air travelers to test negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours of departure. Those under 2 and passengers connecting through the UK are exempt. From the report: The new rules are to take effect two weeks from the day they are signed by CDC Director Mark Redfield, which would be Jan. 26. The CDC has been urgently pressing for an expansion of the requirements with the Trump administration for weeks. One remaining issue is how to address some countries that have limited testing capacity and how the CDC would address travel to those countries, the sources said.

At a White House meeting on Monday, Redfield again made an urgent case to adopt the testing requirements as new strains of COVID-19 are identified in different parts of the world. He raised concerns that vaccines could potentially not be effective against new strains, sources said. U.S. officials do not plan to drop restrictions that were adopted starting in March that ban most non-U.S. citizens who have been in most of Europe, the United Kingdom and Brazil as soon as possible, the sources said. They added that public health officials are sympathetic to the push to lift the restrictions that apply only to a limited number of countries.

Re:Foreigners, Citizens, or both?

By Xylantiel • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Wow. I wouldn't have thought even a troll could be this naive. Travel to the US by citizens of China, Europe and the UK are all banned currently and have been for like 6 months. There are exceptions for people with permanent resident status and for things like student visas. And most countries have similar restrictions (though in probably all cases far more coherent). Only someone out of touch with reality would even think that international vacation travel was a thing right now. The world is shut down.

This is actually a great example of how the US federal government has basically ceased to function. The Trump administration put these bans in place by presidential proclamation and then seems to have just forgotten about them. Most of these places now have lower infection rates than the US, and even those that are high now had low rates for many months. The exceptions for student visas appear to have just been implemented with no specific guidance from the main part of the administration. The US government is totally on auto pilot.


By The Wily Coyote • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Even with antibodies you can still spread the virus. The antibodies speed up your immune response (compared to no antibodies), but there is still some time where your response hasn't kicked in and you are infectious.


By Tom • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

It's a surprising list of countries that managed it. Of course, being an island helps a lot. But even non-island countries have managed, and it kind of shows where the country works thanks to and where the country works despite its government. In a crisis you see the real faces of friends, but also managers.

And quite frankly, if we were rational people, then we would boot our leaders and replace them with people who can do the job. But of course, as long as they're members of the right party, that won't happen. Sad, really, how we transformed democracy into party-oligarchy. Now we pay the price for electing people based on how well they can play politics and not on how capable they are in their actual job.


By AmiMoJo • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Also the vaccines are not 100% effective. Depending on the particular one you get and if it is properly administered they can be anywhere from 50% to 95% effective.

So in the best case you still have a 1 in 20 chance of getting a disease that could have chronic, debilitating effects, assuming you survive it. And worst case is flipping a coin.

Things won't go back to normal for a long time, certainly not this year. There are plenty of people not willing to take that risk, myself among them.


By Nidi62 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Yeah I'm a bit confused too. Here in australia , if you get off a plane, international or interstate, your spending 2 weeks in a government run quarantine hotel and not getting out unless those tests come back negative.

And its worked really well so far. We had one breakout in victoria that left the state shut down for a couple of months, and a few minor scares, but other than that, we havent had much covid at all.

I get the big borders and giant population make it all a bit tricker, but still.... America is supposed to be a get-shit-done country. Its weird to me that it couldn't.

A situation like this requires strong, top-down leadership promoting a clear, decisive plan, along with leadership at all other stages that are willing to put saving lives before their own political careers. Unfortunately, there are plenty of politicians in the US, particularly at the sate and local levels, that are perfectly willing to take the risk that their constituents might die in order to protect their careers. And what's worse, their constituents cheer them for it.

GM Reveals Electric Van and Delves Into Flying Cars

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General Motors unveiled a new electric van and revealed potential plans to delve into flying cars, sending its stock soaring by as much as 8.8% to $48.95 a share. CNBC reports: The EV600 electric van is scheduled to go on sale later this year through a new commercial business unit of GM's called BrightDrop. The division is planning a full portfolio of electric products, not just vehicles, including a delivery pallet that was unveiled Tuesday. The potential foray into "personal air mobility" was announced as part of Cadillac's portfolio of luxury and EV vehicles. It included an autonomous shuttle and an electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, or more commonly known as a flying car or air taxi.

Michael Simcoe, vice president of GM global design, said each concept reflected "the needs and wants of the passengers at a particular moment in time and GM's vision of the future of transportation." "This is a special moment for General Motors as we reimagine the future of personal transportation for the next five years and beyond," Simcoe said.

The flying vehicle is designed to hold one passenger and travel roughly 56 mph between rooftops and other urban destinations, according to the company. A GM spokeswoman confirmed GM has designed models of both autonomous concepts, but computer renderings were simulated during the presentation. She declined to provide other details. Despite uncertainties around personal air mobility, Morgan Stanley expects the autonomous urban aircraft market may be worth $1.5 trillion by 2040.

Ford has ...

By PPH • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

... prior art.

I'm dreaming of a future...

By BAReFO0t • Score: 3 • Thread

... where we do not design products for stupid people.

But raise people for powerful products.

Because the former will breed only even dumber people, and degenerate us.
While the latter will quickly filter them, and allow us to advance.

Fake flying car

By backslashdot • Score: 3 • Thread

That's NOT a flying car, it's basically a glorified helicopter. It can't land fit in a parking spot. Being able to land or fit in a parking spot should be the minimum requirement of a flying car. If it requires a dedicate heliport they already failed. The point of a flying car is so that you can live outside the city and commute to places. If the thing can't even move on a street .. it means you need to basically rent or own dedicated heliport pad .. that'll require lots of infrastructure investment and time. I mean look how long it took to put supercharging stations .. and that's with Tesla selling hundreds of thousands of cars. How are there going to be heliports available everywhere without that sort of investment? It seriously needs to be roadable (fit in a parking spot and be drivable on streets.)

Re: Even the perverts will have a green option

By TechyImmigrant • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Did you know that is an American meme?

Over here, vans are for moving, for craftspeople, for the A-Team and for hippies.

The primary use of a van in the USA is for transporting a group of ghost hunters with an anthropomorphic dog.


By fred911 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Those of us that grew up in the US, we had The Jetsons .

George's flying car was a briefcase convertible https://www.welldonemarketing.... .

Realistically,''Morgan Stanley expects the autonomous urban aircraft market may be worth $1.5 trillion by 2040.''... Read... Morgan Stanley is over weighted in GM stock and has a vested interest in selling into any good news they are able to create for GM. For fucks sake, we can't even agree how to properly manage class G airspace for unmanned flight for UAVs. In 19 years I highly doubt anyone but airmen with certificates will be using airspace for normal transportation.

Parler Users Breached Deep Inside US Capitol Building, GPS Data Shows

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: At least several users of the far-right social network Parler appear to be among the horde of rioters that managed to penetrate deep inside the U.S. Capitol building and into areas normally restricted to the public, according to GPS metadata linked to videos posted to the platform the day of the insurrection in Washington. The data, obtained by a computer hacker through legal means ahead of Parler's shutdown on Monday, offers a bird's eye view of its users swarming the Capitol grounds after receiving encouragement from President Trump -- and during a violent breach that sent lawmakers and Capitol Hill visitors scrambling amid gunshots and calls for their death. GPS coordinates taken from 618 Parler videos analyzed by Gizmodo has already been sought after by FBI as part of a sweeping nationwide search for potential suspects, at least 20 of whom are already in custody.

Gizmodo has mapped nearly 70,000 geo-located Parler posts and on Tuesday isolated hundreds published on January 6 near the Capitol where a mob of pro-Trump supporters had hoped to overturn a democratic election and keep their president in power. The data shows Parler users posting all throughout the day, documenting their march from the National Mall to Capitol Hill where the violent insurrection ensued. The precise locations of Parler users inside the building can be difficult to place. The coordinates do not reveal which floors they are on, for instance. Moreover, the data only includes Parler users who posted videos taken on January 6. And the coordinates themselves are only accurate up to an approximate distance of 12 yards (11 meters).

The red dot just south of the Capitol Rotunda's center on the map above is linked to a video Gizmodo verified that shows rioters in red MAGA hats shouting obscenities about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose office is a short walk to the west. But other dots nearby could indicate videos captured in adjacent offices, stairwells, or hallways leading toward the House and Senate chambers. A second video successfully linked to the Parler data belongs to a rioter who filmed a mob in the Rotunda chanting, "Whose House? Our House?" (while facing the Senate side of the building). Other coordinates pulled from Parler point to users roaming the north side of the building near the Senate chamber, either near leadership offices or the press gallery, depending on which floor they were on. Other location data from outside the Capitol follows the precise route the crowd took from the National Mall shortly after a speech by President Trump...

Re: It was planned on Parler

By AvitarX • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

I'm pretty sure the slaughtering of congress would have pretty long lasting impact driving towards authoritarianism.

Like 9/11 * 100

It likely wouldn't keep Trump in office, but it could very well be the end of the US as a liberal democracy.

Re:For as accurate

By Ol Olsoc • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Because they're not terrorists and it wasn't an insurrection.

The problem with your thesis, is that you do't get to decide who and who isn't a terrorist.

Right now, those are people who wanted to overthrow a legal and verified election, planned on killing the vice president according to the functional gallows they set up and the chants they made. They had evidence of a planned hostage situation, and they just weren't successful.

There is other evidence coming out of planning for violence, and inciting violence.

It really doesn't matter if you cannot be convinced. The fact say this looked like a duck, quacked like a duck, walked like a duck, and you are in league with the people saying it was not a duck. That's okay, at least at this point, people are entitled to their own opinion.

Re:For as accurate

By Kernel Kurtz • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

In the current climate, wearing a mask no longer makes you stand out as suspicious.

Among other Parler users it may.

Re:For as accurate

By doragasu • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Today, when people say things like "GPS data", they mean "location data". And today, location data does not come only from GPS, it also comes from cell towers and WiFi spots. With enough of these, location data can be pretty accurate even inside buildings.

Re:No surprise there.

By spun • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Activists archived all of it before the terrorists could pull down their incriminating posts. A lot of assholes are going to jail. Heck, a lot of them are already there. Like organic food Q shaman guy. And both fat fucks who brought zip tie handcuffs. God damn justice feels good. Don't we all like to see terrorists punished? I know I sure do!

Adobe Flash Is Officially Dead After 25 Years With Content Blocked Starting Today

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When a user attempts to load a Flash game or content in a browser such as Chrome, the content now fails to load and instead displays a small banner that leads to the Flash end-of-life page on Adobe's website. While this day has long been coming, with many browsers disabling Flash by default years ago, it is officially the end of a 25-year era for Flash, first introduced by Macromedia in 1996 and acquired by Adobe in 2005. Mac Rumors reports: "Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player after December 31, 2020 and Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021, Adobe strongly recommends all users immediately uninstall Flash Player to help protect their systems," the page reads. Adobe has instructions for uninstalling Flash on Mac, but note that Apple removed support for Flash outright in Safari 14 last year.

Adobe first announced its plans to discontinue Flash in 2017. "Open standards such as HTML5, WebGL, and WebAssembly have continually matured over the years and serve as viable alternatives for Flash content," the company explained. Adobe does not intend to issue Flash Player updates or security patches any longer, so it is recommended that users uninstall the plugin.

Re:About time ...

By squiggleslash • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Hate to disappoint you but all the functionality of Flash has been integrated into the web standards, and arbitrary sandboxed code execution has been a feature of the web since well before Flash. Indeed, Flash's ActionScript is just JavaScript with a different set of libraries/classes instead of the DOM.

All this means is we can't easily isolate advanced functionality and prevent websites that use it maliciously from executing it. Which is why we're all having to put up with autoplaying videos and other similar shit right now - that was once a Flash preserve, but now the functionality is in the browser, we can't easily turn it off. Even Firefox's attempts to provide a UI allowing autoplaying video to be turned off only half works.

We are actually worse off now than we were when Flash was king. Web browsers are bigger and more bloated, their code is almost certainly less secure, and we have less control over how our web browsers are used by the websites we visit. This transition is a terrible thing.

Re:Latest NPAPI plug-in without the 12 jan killswi

By butlerm • Score: 4, Informative • Thread is apparently the last version without a time bomb

Re:RIP In Peace

By Vultaire • Score: 4, Informative • Thread
There is one option still: using the Flash Player projector ( and loading the SWF file directly. I've done this specifically for an AlbinoBlackSheep SWF which, while converted to a vid, lost its randomization features in the process. Tested it today; still works.

Re: Shit

By Joce640k • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

Never mind all that, how will I watch Strongbad now?

Re:And the prophecy was fulfilled.

By The Evil Atheist • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
About the time he announced he was on a juice cleanse diet to cure his pancreatic cancer...

Telegram Adds 25 Million New Users In Just 72 Hours

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According to founder and CEO Pavel Durov, Telegram gained 25 million new users in the last 72 hours as it smashed past the 500 million active monthly user mark. Android Police reports: For comparison, the app averaged around 1.5 million new users per day in 2020, which was impressive enough already. Durvov says that this is down to his company's simple privacy and security promise, above all else.

The bulk of the new users are coming from Asia (38%), Europe (27%), and Latin America (21%), with around 8% signing up from the MENA region (Middle East and North Africa). Although not explicitly noted in Durov's post, there is likely a good number of Parler orphans joining Telegram -- although there are differences between the functions of the two apps, there's talk that former Parler users are heading to encrypted messaging apps in search of a more private platform. Signal has seen a similar rise in popularity for the same reason.

Re:Wait till the figure out ...

By ewibble • Score: 4, Funny • Thread

Ironic that you have to go to a Russian company to exercise your freedom of speech in America.

Wait, so a ton of right wing extremists

By rsilvergun • Score: 3 • Thread
get the boot and their huge increase in users comes from Asia, Europe and Latin America, not the US?

Somethin' ain't right (*cough* troll farms * cough*, should get that checked out...).

I was going to use Telegram but ...

By fahrbot-bot • Score: 3 • Thread

It seems really tiresome to have to end every sentence with ... STOP

I want to leave Russian-controlled Telegram

By OrangeTide • Score: 3 • Thread

And switch over to a Chinese-controlled TikTok.

But more seriously, jumping over to an American-controlled non-profit like Signal seems like a prudent idea. Even better might be a platform not controlled by anyone (IRC?) or one at least controlled by a somewhat trustworthy nation that isn't a obsequious vassal state (Sweden).

Re:Wait till the figure out ...

By Darinbob • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

And yet, free speech in America is alie and well and doing great. If we had free speech restrictions we wouldn't be hearing about this here and we'd have to learn about it in the underground. But if you support insurrection in your posts expect to get banned, here or in Russia. We had free speech in America long before big tech arrived, and we still have it, and have some business relationships cancelled does not change that. You do NOT need Twitter or Parler or Facebook or whatnot to engage in free speech. If people think those seditious voices have been quieted then you are not listening, they're as loud as ever.

German Investigators Shut Down Biggest Illegal Marketplace On the Darknet

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Associated Press: German prosecutors said Tuesday that they have taken down what they believe was the biggest illegal marketplace on the darknet and arrested its suspected operator. The site, known as DarkMarket, was shut down on Monday, prosecutors in the southwestern city of Koblenz said. All sorts of drugs, forged money, stolen or forged credit cards, anonymous mobile phone SIM cards and malware were among the things offered for sale there, they added. German investigators were assisted in their months-long probe by U.S. authorities and by Australian, British, Danish, Swiss, Ukrainian and Moldovan police.

The marketplace had nearly 500,000 users and more than 2,400 vendors, prosecutors said. They added that it processed more than 320,000 transactions, and Bitcoin and Monero cryptocurrency to the value of more than 140 million euros ($170 million) were exchanged. The suspected operator, a 34-year-old Australian man, was arrested near the German-Danish border. Prosecutors said a judge has ordered him held in custody pending possible formal charges, and he hasn't given any information to investigators. More than 20 servers in Moldova and Ukraine were seized, German prosecutors said. They hope to find information on those servers about other participants in the marketplace.
The move against DarkMarket originated from an investigation of a data processing center installed in a former NATO bunker in southwestern Germany that hosted sites dealing in drugs and other illegal activities.

Re:Explain to me

By nightflameauto • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

The law enforcement folks want to take down big fish, so they leave them up even when they know about them until they seem big enough to cause a general stirring of the proverbial fiscal purse strings that fund the agency in question. "Look at all this amazing work we did," sounds a lot better when you can throw around numbers like those in the summary rather than, "Well, we stopped this operation that had 15 people trading illicit drugs."

Now we know why Bitcoin dropped

By mveloso • Score: 3 • Thread

Now we know why Bitcoin dropped: people cashing out of the site!

Did they also shut down any actual dealers?

By BAReFO0t • Score: 3 • Thread

Or is thos just for show and the dealers will just use one of the many others now?

The Impractical but Indisputable Rise of Retrocomputing

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For all the personal technology introduced and popularized in 2020 -- upscale fitness bikes, at-home Covid tests, game consoles new and old -- the personal computer lands on the list with a bit of a thud. PCs lack the novelty of other gadgets, but they're practical, essential even, in a year when work, school and social life have come to rely heavily upon them. From a report: While modern, ever more efficient computers are selling better than they have in years, vintage computers -- impractical old devices in need of repairs and out-of-production parts -- are also in demand on sites like eBay. Collectors also flock to message boards, subreddits and Discord servers to buy, sell and trade parts. People are buying these PCs not necessarily for daily use, but for the satisfaction they get from rebuilding them. It's a trend one might chalk up to quarantine boredom, though it's been gaining traction for years.

Retrocomputing, the hobby is called, is hardly just a way to pass the time. Instead, as enthusiasts see it, it's a means of communing with the past. "You get into this mind-set of what it must've been like to be somebody in the late '70s, having spent thousands of dollars on this thing that barely does anything more than a calculator," said Clint Basinger, 34, who runs the YouTube channel Lazy Game Reviews. (The devices do allow retrocomputers to make art and music using software unavailable on new computers and to play 8-bit games, but not much else beyond that.) "It's like a time machine to me," Mr. Basinger added. Before the pandemic, there were several vintage computing conventions located around the United States, to which collectors brought their computers to show off. Attendees bought and traded hardware at these events, as well as meet the friends they've made online.

Re: All right this is your cue

By phantomfive • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

What is better, spending your time soldering old computers for fun, or spending your time watching Netflix?


By Waffle Iron • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

A lot of it has to do with applying modern coding techniques to older hardware

You mean like using 400MB of memory (the combined capacity of over 6000 C64s) to display this simple text page that I'm editing now?

Or play with a steam engine!

By Joe2020 • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Impractical is a mild way of putting it. The far better trend these days are SBCs - single board computers and anything smaller. Please don't learn about outdated computing. Instead, learn about a new generation of small computers that are only waiting to be explored and that are invading every aspect of life.

To think people in the 70s or 80s had a uniquely different mindset from people of today is the single biggest mistake one can make. There was nothing special about it. People were being curious and eager to learn something new while also being mindful of what is a good skill to learn for the future. Wanting to learn is good, but because one can learn only so much should one also stay mindful about what to learn.

Frankly, getting into retro computers now is as silly as getting into steam engines was in the 80s. I then did have a steam engine back then - a gift by a grand uncle. One could hook a tiny saw to the steam engine, which allowed one to saw through a small piece of Styrofoam (because it couldn't saw through anything harder) and an electric generator to power a tiny light bulb. It was interesting for two days, or about as long as the lighter fluid lasted ...

The best one could do with a C64 back in its days, besides playing games, was to install a parallel cable to get more speed out of the disk drive, hook a printer to it to do some paper work, or to etch your own PCB and to solder an A/D converter onto it to create audio samples of a few seconds. All of which I did. But almost nothing that I've learned back then about computers is of any use today, so much of it has changed and advanced.

The SBCs on the other hand are much more powerful, need less than 10W, are smaller than a pack of cigarettes and much cheaper than a C64 or a 1541 was in the 80s. Their value is amazing. With SBCs can one replace about anything directly in software - from u-boot, to the kernel, to the desktop environment - almost everything is open source and you'll find a huge community for support. Most SBCs run 1080p60Hz, connect to the world with Ethernet, Bluetooth and WiFi, allow one to play music, videos and games, and can emulate a C64. The amount of applications one can build with SBCs is mind boggling. And there are so many different types on the market that it's impossible to pick a single best one.

I got me a small one, an Allwinner H2+ with 512MB, where the idea was to keep it as cheap and as simple as possible, but I'm still exploring its limits. It runs a continuous 30-day video capture with an HDR CCTV camera (it's sensitive enough to see in the dark) and has capture countless of cats much to my amusement, it plays videos, acts as a WiFi hotspot for my robot vacuum and mobile phone, includes a firewall and a traffic limiter, DHCP, DNS and time server. Next I'll probably add environmental sensors to it and monitor the air in my house.

Nothing better to teach you about computers

By wakeboarder • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Than building a 286 or 386, you had to set jumpers for I\O addressing and memory none of this PNP "easiness" (nobody even knows that term anymore). You had to know a lot just to get your computer running

Yep, That's Me

By RitchCraft • Score: 3 • Thread
I build and sell about 2 to 3 retro-computers on eBay per month, generally from 8088 to Pentium 233 MMX systems. I love building them from parts scavenged wherever I can find them and then souping them up with Sound Blasters, Max RAM, XTIDE controllers, and CF cards for hard drives. Typically I include a CF card with DOS/WFW3.11 (8088-386), another card with Win95OSR2 (486-P233), and a third with Win98SE (486-P233). All drivers and updates pre-configured and ready to go. As a bonus I make a fair profit on each system as well. As a downside re-capping motherboards and rebuilding Dallas RTCs is a pain in the ASCII.

The PC Market Just Had its First Big Growth in 10 Years

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The PC was supposed to die 10 years ago, but it's just experienced its first big growth in a decade. From a report: Market research firm Canalys reports that PC shipments reached 297 million units in 2020, up an impressive 11 percent from 2019. IDC puts the year at 302 million shipments, up 13.1 percent year over year. Gartner also agrees that 2020 was a big year for PCs and the biggest growth we've seen since 2010. PC shipments are up thanks to demand related to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Supply constraints made it difficult to buy a new laptop halfway through the year, and demand continued throughout 2020. "Demand is pushing the PC market forward and all signs indicate this surge still has a way to go," says IDC's Ryan Reith. While home working and remote learning have been big drivers, people are also turning to PCs and laptops for entertainment.

Re:INB4 the next "PCs are dying" nonsense cries.

By Tablizer • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Ignoring pandemic bump and busts, PC's are still the mainstay of businesses and that's not changing any time soon. It's one of the reasons why these "mobile first" dev stacks are annoying. Mobile UI's are a subset of real GUI's, and box one in when it comes to productive UI design. We need a state-ful GUI markup standard to help expand office-ware beyond MS. JS+DOM keeps failing in terms of bloat & reliability. Make GUI's Great Again! Fuck the over-mobile fad. Burn Bootstrap on top a flagpole while gittin off my law!

Died and replaced by what, exactly?

By johannesg • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Are we really supposed to move all of our work to mobile phones? MSWord - do it on your phone. Excel - do it on your phone. Visual Studio, Photoshop, CAD applications, hell let's throw in my own work (testing spacecraft), let's all do it on bloody mobile phones with their microscopic screens and their anemic input methods and their walled gardens. No more desktop games either, everything goes to mobile phone.

I despise those idiots who see a trend and extrapolate it out to infinity, with predictable ridiculous results.

If you've never

By boudie2 • Score: 3 • Thread
Built your own Desktop PC, you should.

"The PC was supposed to die 10 years ago"

By Rick Schumann • Score: 3 • Thread
That's some absolute bullshit, and it's not going to die anytime in the forseeable future either.
Tablets, frankly, are expensive toys. You really can't do any serious work on them. Laptops are okay but they're not expandable or upgradable in any significant way. Smartphones are not computers, they're phones that LARP being a computer, and they're locked down regardless. If you want serious computing power it has to be a desktop, there will always be a market for them, they're not going away.

So sales last year were just 260 million?

By rbrander • Score: 3 • Thread

News flash, 2007: Sales of PCs are 260 MILLION! Company valuations are soaring on the awesome news of rapid growth!

News flash, 2019: Sales of PCs are 260 million...down from 351 million in 2011...PC market can basically be written off as unimportant.

Shows you how much focus of "business news" and "industry news" is about endless growth. A Steady-state, of making products and getting paid for that == death.

I'm pretty sure this relates to stock values, not real company value.

Nvidia Reveals Mobile RTX 3060, 3070, and 3080 GPUs for Gaming Laptops

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Nvidia's Ampere architecture is going mobile. The company revealed its plans and partnerships to bring GeForce RTX 30-series GPUs to more than 70 laptops throughout 2021. From a report: This includes notebooks with the RTX 3060, RTX 3070, and RTX 3080 all using Nvidia's mobile-optimized Max-Q technology. "After taking the desktop market by storm, our Nvidia Ampere architecture is now powering the world's fastest laptops," Nvidia Geforce OEM general manager Kaustubh Sanghani said. "Nowhere does power efficiency matter more than in gaming laptops, a market that's grown [sevenfold] in the past seven years. These new thin and light systems are based on our Max-Q technologies, where every aspect -- CPU, GPU, software, PCB design, power delivery, thermals -- is optimized for power and performance." Laptops with RTX 3070 and 3080 processors will begin launching later this month. RTX 3060 laptops will follow later. RTX 3060 laptops start at $1,000. RTX 3070 laptops starts at $1,300, and Nvidia claims this is ideal for 90 frames per second at 1440p. RTX 3080 laptops, which use 16GB of GDDR6 memory instead of 10GB GDDR6x, start at $2,000.


By grasshoppa • Score: 5, Funny • Thread

I can't wait to not be able to find inventory for those as well!

And LTT already shot them down.

By Mal-2 • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

That MaxQ RTX 3080 mobile? Yeah, it's gonna perform on par with a standalone 1080Ti. That's not terrible, but it doesn't deserve the 3080 naming and it's a seriously bad move to brand them that way.

Who the fuck cares

By Cryptimus • Score: 3 • Thread

Their entire presentation was a snoozefest with 98% advertising propaganda for existing products and 2% paper launches of completely unavailable products. (Including non-existent Nvidia Reflex supporting monitors which won't hit the market for at least another year - remember BFGD monitors??? Yeah, same deal.)

Honestly I don't know why they bother. Nvidia needs to shut the fuck up, talk less and actually achieve more. Stop launching bullshit paper products. Come talk to us when you actually have something worth our time.

AMD Shows Off Impressive Ryzen 5000 Mobile Processors and 3rd Gen Epyc Server Chips

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Advanced Micro Devices showed off some impressive Ryzen 5000 mobile processors today and teased the performance of its 3rd Gen Epyc server chips. From a report: Those chips are aimed at keeping AMD's performance lead over its rival Intel in the mobile and server markets. AMD CEO Lisa Su showed off the new chips in a keynote speech at CES 2021, the online-only tech trade show. AMD is launching its Ryzen 5000 Series mobile processors for gaming laptops and thin-and-light notebooks. These eight-core x86 chips are built with a 7-nanometer manufacturing process (where the circuits are 7 billionths of a meter apart). They are also based on the Zen3 design for processor cores, which can process instructions 19% faster per clock cycle than Zen2 cores.

The H-Series focuses on top performance in laptops for gamers and content creators, while the U-Series focuses on thin-and-light notebooks with great battery life. The chips have four to eight cores and they range in power consumption from 15 watts to 45 watts. AMD said the 5000 Series will be available in PCs in February, and we'll see more than 150 systems using it. That compares to 100 systems for the Ryzen 4000 Series and 70 for the Ryzen 3000.

the circuits are 7 billionths of a meter apart

By dtmos • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Um, no. A "7 nanometer process" is a process in which the smallest planar dimension of the transistors is nominally 7 nanometers. Ostensibly. I say "nominally" because in modern processes there is substantially nothing that is at the process node length.

The design rules of the process typically place circuits much, much further apart than the process node length.

AMD is really killing it as of lately

By Lisandro • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I recently updated my travel (sigh...) laptop for a HP Envy x360 13-inch sporting a 8-core 4700U AMD CPU.

This machine was notably cheaper than any Intel offerings, runs as fast as my main desktop and it sips power. I can regularly get well over 8hs of battery life out of it, without even trying.

InSight and Juno Keep on Trucking

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NASA's InSight lander on Mars and the Juno orbiter at Jupiter have new leases on life. From a report: The spacecraft are expected to continue gathering data about their respective planetary targets during their newly extended missions, allowing scientists to learn more about seismic activity on Mars and turn their attention to the moons of Jupiter. Juno's mission has been extended to September 2025 or whenever its life ends with a crash into Jupiter's atmosphere. InSight will continue its mission to study Mars' geology and seismic activity from the Martian surface through December 2022. Both missions are expected to make good use of their extended time at Jupiter and Mars. InSight's extra two years will see the spacecraft collect more data on marsquakes to help create a long-term dataset that scientists can refer to for years to come, according to NASA. Juno will broaden the scope of its studies to observe Jupiter's rings and moons including flybys of Ganymede, Europa and Io.

Stupid way to budget

By cusco • Score: 3 • Thread

Every day the Opportunity rovers spent on Mars after the 91s had to be financed as a "mission extension", for 14 years. Hubble was launched in 1990 and budgeted (IIRC) for five years, the subsequent 25 years have all been "mission extensions". Voyager's 'Grand Tour' was denied funding, it was only budgeted to Saturn, every day since August of 1981 is a "mission extension". This is what happens when you have lawyers masquerading as politicians allowed to run an engineering program.

Re:Ditch SLS, give the money to JPL

By nightflameauto • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Can't happen because satellites and probes aren't pork barreled hard enough to make congressional districts do the happy dance. If they could find a way to propose probes that never materialize yet cost billions and billions of dollars, they'd be all about throwing money at probes. It's an unfortunate catch-22 of modern funding based on politics. The more likely you are to succeed at the original proposed cost, the less likely you are to get funded. The more likely you are to stretch projected times and budgets, sometimes by multiples, the more likely you are to get funding. Cost plus, baby! It's what's for dinner!

Not Juno the free ISP?

By infuriatedweasel • Score: 3, Interesting • Thread

When I first read the headline, I thought maybe that Juno, the free ISP was "still trucking."
So I looked it up, and apparently, it is?!? And their official website actually says they offer "compatibility with popular instant messaging programs offered on AOL, Earth Link, MSN and Yahoo"
Maybe it's time that they do crash into Jupiter's atmosphere.

Amazon and Facebook Staff Warned of Threats To Safety

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Amazon and Facebook have warned staff about threats to their safety amid fears of a backlash against "big tech." From a report: Amazon Web Services (AWS) employees were told to "be vigilant" after the firm removed Parler from its web-hosting service. The app is popular with some supporters of President Donald Trump. Facebook staff were also instructed not to wear company-branded clothing in public following its ban of the US President's account. The companies cited the deadly siege on US Congress and civil unrest as reasons for concern. "In light of recent events, and to err on the side of caution, global security is encouraging everyone to avoid wearing or carrying Facebook-branded items at this time," an internal Facebook memo obtained by The Information, said.

According to an email reviewed by Business Insider, AWS vice-president Chris Vonderhaar urged his team to "be safe, be vigilant" and report any unusual activity related to the company's data centres. Amazon "continues to closely monitor civil unrest in the United States," the email added. "We all need to [be] vigilant during this time to keep one another and our facilities safe," the email said. "If you see something, say something -- no situation or concern is too small or insignificant."

Re:Stop the free speech nonsense

By lessSockMorePuppet • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

That's also not what the SEC says. Bluntly, GP is wrong. The "fiduciary duty" above all else is an American myth.

Re: Such a nice group of people

By ewibble • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Calling a group of people terrorists is raising temperature, the did it in 9/11 and now there are bunch of people want to not allow Arabs into the US. It is an escalation, if you want a civil war keep going, label and dehumanize the opposition, the only logical outcome of this is more hate.

If you want to calm the situation down you have to remain calm, Most people just want to live their lives this seems like a bunch of name calling and trying to silence the opposition because the other side is just naive, stupid, just plain evil. It will not end anywhere good.

With 9/11 the attack didn't scare me half as much as the crazy response that followed, same here, and the politicians are not acting any better, but the never seem to.

Re:History Lesson

By memory_register • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
Uh, that is a fake quote from the movie Tora! Tora! - there is no historical evidence he said it:

Can you image...

By fish_in_the_c • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread

1) if Amazon, twitter and facebook had banned all 'conservative' Islamic sites where people incited violence against, Infidels ( show beheadings, actual wars etc.)
2) if they had done the same with all the BLM crowd , every time someone showed or talked about burning down a building or a Representative *cough Maxine* .talked about violent resistance to the government.

Reality is either one of those would have put them in A LOT more danger then this move.

*Disclaimer, no fan of Trump and all that. Just sayin.

Remember Cambridge Analytical?

By jbssm • Score: 3 • Thread

I still remember the outrage at Cambridge Analytical (and I was one of the outraged) and all the calls to heavily control, legislate what these platforms can do and even break then up. Now, a lot of those outraged, are praising those same companies and clapping that they have become judge, jury and executioner.

Since I'm not an hypocrite, I maintain my position now: these platforms must stop doing whatever they please. What about you?

With Movie Theaters in Limbo, Netflix Plans Its Biggest Year Yet

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Netflix will release 70 original movies in 2021, the company said in a statement Tuesday, touting the streaming service's most ambitious slate yet as the theatrical movie business remains stuck in limbo. From a report: Netflix's lineup of movies includes one of its most expensive to date, "Red Notice," an action movie starring Dwayne Johnson, Ryan Reynolds and Gal Gadot, as well as sequels to its hit romantic comedies "The Kissing Booth" and "To All the Boys I've Loved Before." The streaming service has also commissioned more than a dozen dramas, including the directorial debut of Halle Berry and a feature starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence. Once a naughty word among filmmakers loyal to movie theaters, Netflix is now one of the few reliable studios in town. Netflix is increasing its output as theaters remain closed in much of the world. The pandemic has made it hard for rival studios to release their projects, and many of them have delayed most of their top titles until more theaters are open.

Buh bye, Theaters

By Asynchronously • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Theaters are an outdated business model that have failed to adapt to changes in the industry. I am reminded of the music industry in the 90s/2000s. Ticket prices are sky high and the movie quality is mostly garbage. I, for one, welcome our streaming overlords.

Re:Success by random chance

By LostMyAccount • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

It's a real mixed bag. I've found that some of the best originals were produced for non-US TV networks -- Babylon Berlin and Dark were both top-notch, HBO-quality shows, German-produced and starring German talent.

I'd say Netflix originals are about a 30% success rate. At this point, I can't tell if the worst ones were commissioned by Netflix or if they were produced externally and Netflix just bought them. The Crown is good, House of Cards (at least the first 2-3 seasons), and probably a few others, but so many are just so-so.

I think Netflix buys some shows with big name casts/directors/etc because they become available cheap for some reason (which I often assume is test audiences hating them or some other problem) and then slaps their 'original' banner on them. Some seem actually produced by Netflix, but its like the whole production was done via algorithm, with some well-known cast members eating the budget and the remaining budget driving the screenplay, resulting in stories that take place in an empty room or something because that's all the rest of the budget would allow.

I don't get the idea that Netflix has successfully setup their own "studio" or production company, or if they have, it's awful. It seems more like they're just buying productions from existing production companies who may or may not be aiming for Netflix as the buyer. Even then it's not clear that Netflix has done anything besides saying "we want a science fiction program" and then providing a budget.

I'd actually be willing to dump Netflix, but its kind of popular with others in the house.

Re:Buh bye, Theaters

By tlhIngan • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Theaters are an outdated business model that have failed to adapt to changes in the industry. I am reminded of the music industry in the 90s/2000s. Ticket prices are sky high and the movie quality is mostly garbage. I, for one, welcome our streaming overlords.

The music industry is very healthy and very much alive, despite the "outdated" business model. In fact, you and I can probably agree things were better with the outdated model because you could own music. Most music today is streamed and that's it. Billions of dollars sunk into streaming services where you don't own the music, but merely rent it. So I'd say the music industry is doing really well.

And the movie industry is doing even better - streaming is killing physical disc. Great in one respect, lousy in another because now you not only don't own it, you merely rent it and it can disappear at the drop of a hat. One day you're watching a Disney movie, the next day you have to subscribe to Disney+.

Theatres aren't going anywhere, just like music concerts haven't gone anywhere, and both have the same restrictions. If anything, the desire to go out has only gotten stronger and once they return, the few that remain will experience extremely strong growth.

The economic recovery will begin in 2021 if the US doesn't screw it up, and 2022 will be the year of strong growth that was simply from pent-up demand.

Oh yeah, ticket prices will be even higher - the strongest survive and now that most of the competition has been wiped out, it paves the way to cash in.

Uganda Orders All Social Media To Be Blocked

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Uganda ordered internet service providers to block all social media platforms and messaging apps on Tuesday until further notice, a letter from the country's communications regulator seen by Reuters said. From a report: Users had complained earlier on Tuesday that they were unable to access Facebook and WhatsApp, social media platforms being widely used for campaigning ahead of Thursday's presidential election in the East African country. "Uganda Communications Commission hereby directs you to immediately suspend any access and use, direct or otherwise, of all social media platforms and online messaging applications over your network until further notice," said the letter from the commission's executive director to internet providers.

Re:Uh oh

By hey! • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

The problem with social media is the business model is about penetrating into your life so thoroughly that you're constantly available to be sold to advertisers. Look at Facebook's ridiculously intrusive mobile app. It has no respect for your privacy at all.

Most people didn't join Facebook to be proselytized politically. They certainly didn't join to be pecked to death by demands for attention. They joined to keep up with their childhood friends or share kid pictures with their cousins, but the things that *users* want don't make as much money as selling their users. Stoking fear and resentment is good for engagement metrics, and although they will occasionally take dramatic actions when its brand is in danger of tarnishment, social media companies will soon be back to their old, profitable tricks.

Social media apps like Facebook are a lot like Windows. By in large Microsoft's customer isn't the user, it's people who decide what OS to put on computers: IT departments and manufacturers. You're just along for the ride, and it shows. All of the problems with Facebook would disappear if you were the *customer*, not the product.

Re:Uh oh

By Brain-Fu • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Freedom of speech is a great idea...provided the listeners are not idiots. A stupid person will listen to the well-supported and clear reasoning of an intelligent person, and reject it all as false, and then turn around and listen to the utter-and-obvious nonsense being spouted by a fellow stupid person, and think it sounds perfectly reasonable.

Social media is giving far too much of a platform to stupid people, to motivate other stupid people to do harmful things. It also is giving a platform to smart-but-evil people, who are similarly motivating stupid people to do stupid things. The one thing that is NOT happening on social media is productive debate in which bad ideas are revealed to be bad and ultimately rejected by everyone.

The root cause is widespread stupidity. Blocking every social media outlet on the Internet is a scramble to treat the symptom, without addressing the disease. And the cure here, widespread censorship, is probably even worse than the disease.

I am feeling kind of hopeless at the moment. We need to put smart in the water. Right now, I don't see a way.

Re:Uh oh

By nightflameauto • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

We had a guy at work go full qanon conspiracy lunacy during the work day. I'm well aware that logic and facts can't penetrate the haze of stupid.

Sadly, he used to be a pretty good dude. I'm not sure where he slipped off the rails, but we're seeing way too many people sucked into that realm now. It's sad, and frightening, how many have given in to their paranoia and fear of intelligence.

Re:Uh oh

By SkonkersBeDonkers • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

The world seemed a much friendlier, cohesive and civl place before FB, Twitter, etc....

Was it really though? I mean for decades before the Internet became mainstream, talk radio was filled with hosts railing about evil democrats and call-ins where private citizens would rave about they needed to be wiped out and so on.

I remember personally overhearing conversations between extremist fundamentalist Christians when Clinton was elected talking about how this surely was the end times and they needed to be prepared to take up arms against the socialists.

My point being, is it that there is more incivility, hatred and just overall crazy now, or has it all just been dragged out into the open where everyone can see it and have a record of it preserved?

Re:Uh oh

By Mal-2 • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The root cause is the bullshit asymmetry problem. If it takes an order of magnitude more effort to debunk bullshit than to create it, only 1 person out of 11 needs to be producing bullshit before it overwhelms the remaining 10 out of 11, even presuming they're all working to oppose the bullshit.

Being able to spread bullshit at the speed of light is the unfortunate side effect of having instant communications at all.

YouTube and WhatsApp Inch Closer To Half a Billion Users in India

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An anonymous reader shares a report: WhatsApp has enjoyed unrivaled reach in India for years. By mid-2019, the Facebook-owned app had amassed over 400 million users in the country. Its closest app rival at the time was YouTube, which, according to the company's own statement and data from mobile insight firm App Annie, had about 260 million users in India then. Things have changed dramatically since. In the month of December, YouTube had 425 million monthly active users on Android phones and tablets in India, according to App Annie, the data of which an industry executive shared with TechCrunch. In comparison, WhatsApp had 422 million monthly active users on Android in India last month.

Factoring in the traction both these apps have garnered on iOS devices, WhatsApp still assumes a lead in India with 459 million active users, but YouTube is not too far behind with 452 million users. With China keeping its doors closed to U.S. tech giants, India emerged as the top market for Silicon Valley and Chinese companies looking to continue their growth in the last decade. India had about 50 million internet users in 2010, but it ended the decade with more than 600 million. Google and Facebook played their part to make this happen.

Samsung's Huge MicroLED TVs Let You Watch Four Things at Once

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An anonymous reader shares a report: Samsung's MicroLED televisions like The Wall are always some of the biggest products at CES -- literally. Last year's version was a 292-inch monster composed of individual modules that required custom installation and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The 2021 version is a MicroLED TV in fixed sizes of 110, 99 and 88 inches that costs a bit less, but is still ridiculously expensive. Launched in Korea last month, the 110-inch MicroLED costs 170 million won, or around $156,000 according to ZDNet -- the same as a Bentley Bentayga. On Tuesday at its First Look event ahead of CES, the company announced two more sizes, 99 and 88 inches, all three with 4K resolution. Samsung says the TVs will arrive in other markets later this year. For comparison's sake, Samsung's puny 98-inch 8K TV costs $60,000, but it uses standard LCD-based QLED display technology, not MicroLED. [...] The 110-inch MicroLED TV is basically the size of four 55-inch TVs stuck together, and a feature called MultiView lets you connect multiple devices simultaneously and watch up to four things at once. Lucky owners can "enjoy watching news, movies and other apps simultaneously on one screen -- so they can keep up with multiple sports at once, or stream a walkthrough while playing a video game, all in stunning quality and size," according to the release. MultiView is also available on the smaller 99- and 88-inch versions.

Their purpose is ...

By BAReFO0t • Score: 3 • Thread

... to make you believe their regular models are not a total rip-off of mostly profit with a slight dash of employee payment in there.

They will use it to surround the main display

By xack • Score: 3 • Thread
With ads, “ow my balls” style.

The only use case I see

By UnknowingFool • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Is sports bars to show more multiple games at once or one really large display for 1 game. Of course it would be way cheaper to get 4 TVs and make that work.

Full screen to each viewer with different video?

By pereric • Score: 3 • Thread

I would be more impressed by some TV or similar device that could display different content to different viewers - from the *full* screen.

Probably by having each part of the screen sending different light signals for multiple directions. Kind of like how a lighthouse project white in some directions, red or green in others. But dynamically controlled, with several LED:s per pixel, and some quite advanced optics. With narrow enough beams, this could perhaps even be used for glassless 3D.

Ideally with some software that could track the location of each viewer and calculate which sub-pixels need to transmit to reach them, even if viewers changed position. Without said tracking sensors used for any other purpose - no analyzing, no ad tracking, no DRM ...

I wonder which part is most wishful thinking - the technology or that Samsung could skip abusing it for privacy violations?

Google Sued by YouTube Rival Over Search Rankings

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Video-sharing site Rumble accused Google in a lawsuit of abusing the power of its search engine and mobile operating system to boost its YouTube video service over rivals, the latest allegation of anticompetitive conduct against the Alphabet unit. From a report: Toronto-based Rumble, which has become popular among conservative pundits, on Monday filed an antitrust suit in federal court in California arguing that Google is "unfairly rigging its search algorithms" to place YouTube above Rumble in its search results. Rumble said Google's behavior cost it significant numbers of viewers and advertising dollars. The lawsuit also argues that Google's deals to pre-install a YouTube app on mobile devices running Google's Android operating system have unfairly deprived Rumble of viewers. "Google, through its search engine, was able to wrongfully divert massive traffic to YouTube, depriving Rumble of the additional traffic, users, uploads, brand awareness and revenue it would have otherwise received," the lawsuit states. "We will defend ourselves against these baseless claims," a Google spokeswoman said.

Now watch folks fall all over themselves

By DeplorableCodeMonkey • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread

To geeksplain why Microsoft's behavior was beyond the pale in the 90s, but this is totally different (because they like Google's politics).

We wouldn't have the competitive marketplace in software and hardware today if it weren't for antitrust threat scaring Bill Gates into giving Apple an emergency cash infusion and promising to keep up with Microsoft Office. Similarly, the reason Microsoft tolerates Linux licenses now is the threat of the iron fist of the federal government, not the free market; there was a market for BeOS on Dell hardware and Microsoft killed it with fire through anticompetitive behavior.

If it weren't for Google, YouTube would be either bankrupt or behaving very differently. For example, they would very zealously guard their revenue-generating content producers from political campaigns because the alternative is bankruptcy.

Re:Not shocking.

By Luthair • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Thats an interesting conspiracy theory that we know isn't true because Google Search has previously deranked other Google products when they've tried to manipulate results.

The reality is any time I, and most people do a video search they look through the links first for YouTube because it will be the best experience. That is a pretty strong signal to Google search about the results people want. YouTube is also going to dominate any version of page rank because its linked to far more frequently than anything else.

Wait, what?

By ddtmm • Score: 3 • Thread
Funny how my concern for Rumble fell to zero as soon as I read "...popular among conservative pundits..."

Re: Wait, what?

By StarWreck • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Yeah funny how your basic nerd morality becomes irrelevant once you discover someone disagrees with you politically.

Itâ(TM)s very amusing

By wiredog • Score: 3 • Thread

hearing people who spent the last thirty years making sure every aspect of our communications infrastructure was under corporate control suddenly getting mad that corporations can control their communication.

Lost Passwords Lock Millionaires Out of Their Bitcoin Fortunes

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Stefan Thomas, a German-born programmer living in San Francisco, has two guesses left to figure out a password that is worth, as of this week, about $220 million. From a report: The password will let him unlock a small hard drive, known as an IronKey, which contains the private keys to a digital wallet that holds 7,002 Bitcoin. While the price of Bitcoin dropped sharply on Monday, it is still up more than 50 percent from just a month ago when it passed its previous all-time high around $20,000. The problem is that Mr. Thomas years ago lost the paper where he wrote down the password for his IronKey, which gives users 10 guesses before it seizes up and encrypts its contents forever. He has since tried eight of his most commonly used password formulations -- to no avail. "I would just lay in bed and think about it," Mr. Thomas said. "Then I would go to the computer with some new strategy, and it wouldn't work, and I would be desperate again."

Bitcoin, which has been on an extraordinary and volatile eight-month run, has made a lot of its holders very rich in a short period of time, even as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the world economy. But the cryptocurrency's unusual nature has also meant that there are many people who are locked out of their Bitcoin fortunes as a result of lost or forgotten keys. They have been forced to watch, helpless, as the price has risen and fallen dramatically, unable to cash in on their digital wealth. Of the existing 18.5 million Bitcoin, around 20 percent -- currently worth around $140 billion -- appear to be in lost or otherwise stranded wallets, according to the cryptocurrency data firm Chainalysis. Wallet Recovery Services, a business that helps find lost digital keys, said it has gotten 70 requests a day from people who want help recovering their riches, three times the number of a month ago. Bitcoin owners who are locked out of their wallets speak of endless days and nights of frustration as they have tried to access their fortunes. Many have owned the coins since Bitcoin's early days a decade ago, when no one had confidence that the tokens would be worth anything.

For want of a Post-It...

By trailerparkcassanova • Score: 3 • Thread
...$220M was lost.

Fake security

By Malifescent • Score: 3, Funny • Thread
The security of these hard drives are usually fake and easily cracked. No need for him to lose his millions. There are some people on the internet who research the security of these drives and they've been able to crack ALL of them so far.

Useful Public Service Announcement

By BeerMilkshake • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Ask yourself and confirm, swear on your heart and soul that:

  • you have all your private keys in your own posession (e.g. not on a website),
  • you have an encrypted backup of all your keys,
  • your backup would be safe in the event of a house-fire, burglary etc,
  • you have tested and confirmed you can decrypt your backup and restore your wallet(s), and
  • if you died suddenly, your inheritors could retrieve your coins.

Re:So you lost your key?

By thereddaikon • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Her problem is she wanted to be paranoid without taking the personal responsibility that paranoia requires.


By dnaumov • Score: 3 • Thread

Why can't he just copy the entire thing and do further attempts on the copies or in case there actually is some sort of protection against this, at the point where the thing is worth hundreds of millions, why doesn't he hire some company to literally remove the relevant nand chips and then work on copies of that?

Theranos Destroyed Crucial Subpoenaed SQL Blood Test Database, Can't Unlock Backups

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register: Failed blood-testing unicorn Theranos trashed vital incriminating evidence of its fraud, prosecutors said on Monday. The imploded startup's extensive testing data over three years, including its accuracy and failure rate, was "stored on a specially-developed SQL database called the Laboratory Information System (LIS)," according to a filing [PDF] in the fraud case against Theranos's one-time CEO Elizabeth Holmes and COO Sunny Balwani. The database "even flagged blood test results that might require immediate medical attention, and communicated this to the patient's physician," we're told.

Theranos claimed to have perfected technology that would allow industry standard blood tests to be run at great speed and with just a drop of blood, revolutionizing the health industry, and causing the business to be valued at $10bn. The reality, however, was that for one set of tests, the failure rate was 51.3 per cent. What does that mean? Prosecutors explain: "In other words, Theranos's TT3 blood test results were so inaccurate, it was essentially a coin toss whether the patient was getting the right result. The data was devastating."

So devastating that the database was subpoenaed by a grand jury digging into fraud claims against Holmes and Balwani. But when investigators turned to take a copy of the database, guess what? From the filing: "On or about August 31, 2018 -- three months after a federal grand jury issued a subpoena requesting a working copy of this database -- the LIS was destroyed. The government has never been provided with the complete records contained in the LIS, nor been given the tools, which were available within the database, to search for such critical evidence as all Theranos blood tests with validation errors. The data disappeared."

Re:Hope for the best...

By LostMyAccount • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

I was involved with a situation that involved lawyers and smart phones.

I asked the lawyer if I could erase the phone, do a factory reset and wipe on it. He told me that wasn't something he could discuss, but that phones get lost or destroyed all the time.

I think they can't advise you about destroying evidence, but they can kind of educate you on when destruction of evidence becomes presumed to be "destruction of evidence" and not just a coincidental destruction of something that is evidence.

I took the lawyer's statement as the advice that I could legally wipe the device, sell it, destroy it, etc, because the contact we had with law enforcement was extremely limited -- basically getting voicemails and us not responding to them, and we had no reason to believe we were under formal investigation and there had been no demands to examine any property, so we were free to do whatever we wanted vs. being compelled to preserve the device.

He actually said the best thing at this point was just keep ignoring them, and that it was slightly disadvantageous for us to even pay him a retainer and have him tell the cops to leave us alone and talk to him (the lawyer), as this often piques their interest and can move informal inquiries into more formal investigations because they smell blood in the water.

My involved situation ended, thankfully, with my one meeting with the lawyer but I think it becomes a more formal risk of being accused of destroying evidence once you are under some kind of formal investigation and this has been communicated to you, even if you are not charged (yet).


By backslashdot • Score: 3 • Thread

It was obvious BS that it could detect pathogens in a drop of blood. In many clinically relevant infections, the patient can have as low as one pathogen per milliliter. References: and (note: a CFU is a single viable bacteria) --and doctors need to be able to detect that. Note also, indirect methods such as checking for antibodies, which is unreliable anyway, won't reveal active infection. A drop of blood is only about 10 microliters (10 microliters is 1/100th of a milliliter). Basic math shows that the chance of Theranos detecting an infection with 1 per mL is low. So how did Theranos get $1 billion for making up shit?

Re:More precisely

By jeff4747 • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

You know - discovery opening arguments, witnesses, cross-examination, closing argument - a trial.

First, these are civil cases. Not criminal. they don't flow the way a criminal trial does.

Second, the first steps of a civil case include the plaintiff showing they have 1) standing and 2) evidence. Then you go on to discovery and such. In a few cases, Trump's lawyers could not show they had standing. In the vast majority of cases, Trump's lawyers could not show any evidence of their claim.

You don't proceed to discovery, witnesses and such when the judge asks "Do you have any evidence?" and Giuliani replies "No".

The reason they were claiming a mountain of evidence in the media you consumed is because there's no penalty for lying in the media.

Re:More precisely

By Areyoukiddingme • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Very few cases were of the "will not touch" variety

Care to point to a couple instances where they tried the case?
You know - discovery opening arguments, witnesses, cross-examination, closing argument - a trial.

I don't think you'll find a bunch of those. I've read probably half the rulings and I haven't seen any that came after trying the case.

Correct, there are none. Courts don't bother holding trials when initial arguments from the lawyers show no reason to. This is true in every court, for every kind of case. For criminal cases, if the prosecutor fails to make their case before a grand jury, there are no indictments and no trial. For civil cases (as these were), if the lawyer can't demonstrate to the judge that there's some cause for action, there is no trial. Trump's lawyers, when pinned down (in a whopping five hour hearing in one case in Pennsylvania), were forced to admit there was no real evidence. So of course there's no trial. Why would you have a trial over literally nothing? That the plaintiff's lawyers admitted, up front, in the very first hearing, was literally nothing? There's nothing to try. Guiliani himself said so. Even that raging dipshit Lin Wood admitted it in court.

When even people that delusional admit to a judge they have nothing, of course the judge throws out the case without trial. You can't hold a trial over nothing. At least, not in a functional court system. The US court system has its flaws (ask black defendants), but it's not yet at the level of banana republic courts. It doesn't hold show trials over nothing to whitewash the desired outcome. Trump thought it would.

Trump was absolutely convinced the US courts were as venal and corrupt as he is. He was outraged to discover they were not.

Re:Hope for the best...

By Zak3056 • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Aren't you generally allowed to assume deliberately destroyed evidence would have proven what you are charged with?

In state court, that is up to the state. In criminal courts, probably not. In federal civil trials specifically, yes (more or less). Rule 37(e) of the FRCP states:

(e) Failure to Preserve Electronically Stored Information. If electronically stored information that should have been preserved in the anticipation or conduct of litigation is lost because a party failed to take reasonable steps to preserve it, and it cannot be restored or replaced through additional discovery, the court:

(1) upon finding prejudice to another party from loss of the information, may order measures no greater than necessary to cure the prejudice; or

(2) only upon finding that the party acted with the intent to deprive another party of the information’s use in the litigation may:

(A) presume that the lost information was unfavorable to the party;

(B) instruct the jury that it may or must presume the information was unfavorable to the party; or

(C) dismiss the action or enter a default judgment.

Citing 'Censorship' Concerns, North Idaho ISP Blocks Facebook and Twitter

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jasonbuechler writes: A North Idaho internet provider, Your T1 WIFI, emailed customers to say customers would need to opt-in to access Facebook and Twitter from its service. They wisely seem to have changed their mind on that after it started garnering attention on social media. The ISP says it decided to restrict service this way after receiving numerous calls from customers concerned about censorship. "They could do this themselves but some do not have the technical knowledge to do so and it would be very tiresome for us to do it for them and it would be expensive to visit each customer that wants this done," the company wrote in an email.

The customers' requests for firewalls preventing access to these sites followed the tech giants' decisions to close down Donald Trump's accounts and suspend his activity. After the decision started attracting attention on social media, the owner of the company said the websites would only be blocked for customers who asked. notes that Your T1 WIFI "may violate Washington state's Net Neutrality law, which states that internet providers may not manipulate access to content."

Re:Look at their website, all you need to know..

By MachineShedFred • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Or, like many ISPs outside large urban areas, they do business in an area where there is no competition, so they get to have a de facto Internet Fiefdom where it's their way or no highway.

Re:An ISP blocking websites in the US

By tannhaus • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

No, I'm proposing that you pull your head out of your ass and understand this is no longer a "private" matter when you attempt to censor and discredit half a fucking country.

So, let me get this straight... Karen can refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, refuse to rent her wedding chapel to them, refuse to officiate their wedding or even issue them a marriage license and that's perfectly ok and acceptable, but lock the president out of twitter and you've gone a step too far?

First, you're not half the country. If half the country wanted to take part in sedition, then we'd have civil war. We don't have that regardless of what flag you think represents you. What we have is a vocal minority that attempted a failed coup and are now whining because they did fail and are facing consequences for doing so.

You better believe that there are a lot of people in the country who believe it shouldn't stop with removing the platform that helped foment the violence (Inciting violence is not protected free speech and there is legal precedent to that. Even the government can clamp down on that.) Everyone that took part in this or incited others to do so should face charges. These people attacked the seat of the US government, attempted to stop the counting of the democratic vote and instead install their leader by fiat. That is treason.

Now remember, it is the conservative movement that has pushed for corporations to be counted as people and for their actions to be counted as free speech - not to mention free speech to include denying someone else their rights or freedoms (as in issuing a marriage license). No, Twitter isn't Hobby Lobby, but it does have rights granted to individuals thanks to the conservative movement. It's ironic that the Trumpers now want to take on "Big Tech" aka big corporations in technology, when they've spent years giving them more and more rights/control ranging from individual rights to dissolving net neutrality. This doesn't even take into account the clear violations of Terms of Service.... just the fact you've put these corporations in a very enviable position then started a fight with them.

Re:An ISP blocking websites in the US

By tragedy • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Did you accidentally reply to the wrong post? I hadn't actually made any comment about the rights of private corporations to ban people from their platforms, etc. I was making a comment about how market forces don't really apply to local ISPs in underserved areas and the bizarre legal situation many of them operate in where competition ends up being forbidden.

Since you seem to want to get into this though, your point is nonsense. They are, indeed, a private corporation. However, they are a common carrier, beholden to laws governing common carriers. They actually don't get to choose these things. They provide a pipe to the Internet itself. There is a lot of grey area there, of course. Generally speaking, an ISP should not be picking and choosing for its customers.

Organizations like Facebook and Twitter are not considered common carriers, however. They aren't providing a pipe, they are providing access to their servers operating on the Internet. They grant accounts to users, who are subject to Terms of Service and users have to abide by those Terms of Service, or they could lose access to their accounts. These sites have been operating like that since they were started. People violate the terms of service, and they get banned, either temporarily or permanently.

This does seem to create an interesting quandary for free speech. At what point do services like this become a virtual public square where people have free speech rights and right of assembly, free association, etc.? An analogue to real world public spaces might be useful. Do you have free speech rights and right to assembly inside your local indoor mall? Or in the parking lot of your supermarket? Not really. Those are private spaces. If they don't like what you have to say, they can make you leave. A trickier one might be, for example, a cafe with tables out on the sidewalk. Some of them actually own the land that they put the tables out on, but others just have a permit to put their tables on the public sidewalk. What are your free speech rights in those spaces? It's actually hard to say. It would seem pretty likely though that courts would probably side with the private business in forcing you off the premises for speech the business objects to on the grounds that you have free speech on the adjacent open area of sidewalk. Ditto for a public park with, for example, a permitted private carnival, etc. In general, while some private property seems to end up treated as de facto public space in many respects, I don't think it typically becomes de jure public space where all of your rights are in effect without danger of eviction unless it's seized by eminent domain. It even seems like, over time, the public spaces where you have 1st amendment rights are actually dwindling.

Honestly, this state of affairs is less than ideal. We really do need to have standards for free speech online. Consider the real world again. As I mentioned, public spaces where you have free speech are dwindling. What happens if your town ends up selling, renting, or otherwise permitting away all of the public spaces away to a private management company. Can the management company then impose rules on your free speech in what had been a public space? Can the municipality even use this as a way to do an end run around the constitution by putting a private company in charge and then mandating rules through their contract with the private company? After all, we've seen that police can get away with violating the 4th amendment like crazy by simply contracting the violations out to private companies and individuals, so why couldn't it happen with the 1st amendment (2nd as well, for those for whom that's the only important amendment). That would leave inside their own homes as the only place people have free speech. Except that their landlord, mortgage company, HOA, etc. might be able to take those away as well through lease and mortgage agreements and whatever demonic blood pact is required by the HOA.

So, yes, we do need to have some laws that provide for people's sp

Re:An ISP blocking websites in the US

By spire3661 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
So you are suggesting that private companies should be forced to carry a fascist dictator's messages? Do you even hear yourself? Conservatism isnt being attacked, you are reaping what you have sown. The invisible hand, remember?

Stop being hateful shitbags and we can resume talks, until then DIAF.

Re:Addressing censorship concerns by... censoring

By Lisandro • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Lisandro, ISPs and website owners are both private corporations. Hence they both get to decide how their services are used.

No, not quite. There're contracts involved - and regulatory frames in place.

The comparison with the Parler/AWS scenario is actually quite apt, but not for the reasons you think: they both involve ToS violations. In the case of AWS, Parler violated the terms of service on the very contract they signed, so they got their service terminated. In this case, the ISP is the one violating terms of service. And i'm 100% certain they had no issue on charging end users the same for a crippled service.

On top of that, ISPs are, very much, still bound by FCC regulations.

As a side note, i see many people here framing this entire thing (and Parler/AWS, while we're at it) as free speech issue. It is arguably not.

LG Teases a Rollable Phone At CES 2021

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At CES 2021 today, LG unveiled the LG Rollable, a smartphone that has what the company calls a "unique resizable screen" that transforms from a phone into a small tablet. The screen slides in and out of place to extend its surface area. The Verge reports: It's merely a concept right now, as part of LG's "Explorer Project" experiments, and we still don't know exactly what technology LG is using or the size of the expandable display. LG has previously used its Explorer Project to introduce its LG Wing smartphone, with a wild rotating design and two OLED displays. It's still not clear whether LG's Rollable phone will ever make it to market, but the company has now branded this experiment so it seems more likely we'll see an LG Rollable in the future.


By jcr • Score: 3, Insightful • Thread

Like folding phones, this kind of thing still seems like just a parlor trick. What's the real benefit here? is it more comfortable to carry in my pocket when it's rolled up? Does it save weight or reduce battery draw? Anything significant at all?


LG wasn't even first with this...

By MindPrison • Score: 3 • Thread

... but since they're so well known, they'd like to pull an "Apple" on it, and present a world first, sorry LG exist:

Demoed live in November: