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Europe Must Ban Bitcoin Mining To Hit the 1.5C Paris Climate Goal, Say Swedish Regulators

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Faced with a sharp rise in energy consumption, Swedish authorities are calling on the European Union to ban "energy intensive" crypto mining. From a report: Erik Thedeen, director of the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority, and Bjorn Risinger, director of the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency, said cryptocurrency's rising energy usage is threatening Sweden's ability to meet its obligations under the Paris Climate Agreement. Between April and August this year, the energy consumption of Bitcoin mining in the Nordic country rose "several hundred per cent," and now consumes the equivalent electricity of 200,000 households, Thedeen and Risinger said.

In an open letter, the directors of Sweden's top financial and environmental regulators called for an EU-wide ban on "proof of work" cryptocurrency mining, for Sweden to "halt the establishment" of new crypto mining operations and for companies that trade and invest in crypto assets to be prohibited from describing their business activities as environmentally sustainable.

Re:You just compared Apples to butt plugs there.

By vyvepe • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

I am baffled as to how you can make that analogy, the 2 are nothing alike. Mining rigs run continuously and most operations run MANY of them.

It does not matter how little your gaming PC is running a game if there is enough gamers to compensate. If the reason for banning bitcoin is CO2 then only the overall consumption matters. Lets do some very rough estimate.

Bitcoin mining consumed about 67 TWh in 2020. There is about 1.4e9 PC gamers worldwide and an average gamer spends about 8 hours a week gaming (this sounds much to me but that is what google claims). Let's assume the average power consumption of a PC is 200 W. That leads to PC gaming consumption of 0.1 TWh. Looks like you are right!

Other big target to ban for the sake of CO2 reduction is tourism. It is responsible for about 2 % of world wide energy consumption (it is responsible for about 10% of GDP and about 1/5 of expenses is on energy). Bitcoin is responsible for about 0.5% of it. So tourism generates about 4 times as much CO2 as bitcoin.

Re: Good

By Zontar The Mindless • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

...and Bjorn Risinger, director of the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency...

You are really quite new at this, aren't you?

crypto currencies need to be destroyed

By Ambassador Kosh • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

If I had the ability to corrupt all their blockchains and render all cryptocurrencies worthless today I would do it without hesitation. The amount of waste generated by cryptocurrency is truly staggering. I would support it being illegal to mine or trade them.

This quote from the article really makes the point

"It is currently possible to drive a mid-size electric car 1.8 million kilometres using the same energy it takes to mine one single Bitcoin,” they said. “This is the equivalent of forty-four laps around the globe"

That is insane. It doesn't even count all the energy that goes into the hardware to do this stuff. There are so many wasted resources here and wasted in a truly pointless way.

Why not slap a carbon tax on transactions?

By stabiesoft • Score: 3 • Thread
and see how long crypto currencies survive. If nothing else, it would push them to more energy efficient methods of crypto currencies. We are doing for cars, why not crypto?


By groobly • Score: 3 • Thread

Also, not only must they ban bitcoin mining, they need to ban heating your house, driving a car, eating meat, turning on lights after dark, and having children. It's easy. Just do it.

Centrist Dems Sink Biden's Nominee for Top Bank Regulator

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Five Democratic senators have told the White House they won't support Saule Omarova to head the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, effectively killing her nomination for the powerful bank-regulator position. Axios: The defiant opposition from a broad coalition of senators reflects the real policy concerns they had with Omarova, a Cornell University law professor who's attracted controversy for her academic writings about hemming in big banks. Their opposition also hints at a willingness of some Democratic senators to buck the White House on an important nomination, even if it hands Republicans a political -- and symbolic -- victory.

Republicans have attacked the Kazakh-born scholar in remarkably personal terms, and turned her nomination into a proxy battle over how banks should be regulated. Driving the news: In phone call on Wednesday, Sens. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) Mark Warner (D-Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), all members of the Senate Banking Committee, told Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) -- the panel's chairman -- of their opposition. They're joined in opposing her by Sens. John Hickenlooper (D-Colo.) and Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.).

More like stuff that matters

By drnb • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

This is very nerdly news

I'd say its more stuff that matters.

I am disappointed I studied physics.

Well the focus in one narrow area does often lead to many personal blind spots.

I am unable to comment on this science.

On the bright side this does put you ahead of most other physics majors, at least you realize your skills are narrowly applied rather than broadly applied.

Re: This is very nerdly news

By Freischutz • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

You didn't get the memo. Slashdot now lumps communism into tech news. Did you see this woman's resume? We aren't talking USSR ideals here. She is the incarnation of Communist China. -C.D.R-

Seriously? She was a member of the communist girl scouts when she was a child, it was effectively mandatory. Then she grew up and made her own mind up about politics. Just to demonstrate how asinine that ancient senator's questions were, It's a bit like claiming some grown woman is a Republican because she joined American Heritage Girls as a Pathfinder when she was six. People grow up and make up their own minds about the world.

Re:Is that what she wants to do?

By monkeyxpress • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Under the current system you put your money in the bank and theoretically that's the money the bank loans out.

Unfortunately that's not how the banking system works at all.

Bank of England white paper.

Private banks do not use depositor's money to lend out. They just create money by raising loans 'secured' against assets such as housing, businesses, art, magical rocks etc. Each time they create a new loan they add money to the financial system. The only real constraint on their ability to do this is whether they can convince everyone that asset prices are justified.

This is why the price of all assets has ballooned out since deregulation. Banks have gone on a debt issuing orgy (since issuing loans is how they make money) and this has increased the money supply much faster than supply of real income producing assets (aka useful stuff in the economy). This has caused yields to keep falling, and central banks to have to keep bailing the system out by slashing interest rates and doing QE, as they have no idea how low asset prices would go if they allowed the free market to price them instead.

Re:She's a communist

By blahabl • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

She got her BA from Moscow State University, which she attended on a Lenin Scholarship, and her undergraduate thesis was titled Karl Marx’s Economic Analysis and the Theory of Revolution in The Capital.

Exactly the experience you would look for when appointing someone to (checks notes) manage US banking regulations.

This was almost 40 years ago...not long before coming to the US where she has achieved multiple degrees, worked for the George W Bush Administration, been a witness at Senate hearings on banking relations and become a Professor at Cornell Law School. You don't think that her ideas may have evolved a bit since then?

I wonder if if instead of commies it was nazis, if you'd still be okay with "but but it was 40 years ago" argument.

Re: This is very nerdly news

By ArmoredDragon • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Liberalism has already been redefined. Many, make times. What was originally called liberalism is now referred to as classical liberalism. Today's liberals (which imo progressive is a better term for them) are generally opposed individualism, generally favor the idea of having a planned economy, and generally want to place more restrictions on speech. This is very far removed from what enlightenment era liberals were.

Inside the Rise and Fall of Clubhouse, a Pandemic Poster Child of VC-backed Hype

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From a report: In May 2020, when the pandemic raged, the comedian and TV writer Marlena Rodriguez got an invite to a new app called Clubhouse that offered the homebound online masses a way to spend some of their suddenly abundant time. In the ensuing months, Rodriguez jousted in a chat room with the celebrity Ashton Kutcher, gained more than 13,000 followers, and started a party room on Fridays that frequently swelled to over 1,000 people. She wrote a play, "Once Upon a Clubhouse," and hired actors to perform it on the app. "I was in love," she said. Today, "I question why I'm even still on Clubhouse," Rodriguez said. Her Friday-night room has dwindled to about 30 people.

More than any other startup, Clubhouse epitomizes the venture-capital-backed euphoria that swept the tech industry since lockdowns shut millions of people inside and pushed them online for connection, entertainment, and information. Marc Andreessen has called the app "the Athenian agora come to life," referring to the hub of democracy in ancient Greece. It has raised more than $100m from his firm and other top VCs, garnering a $4bn valuation. But with vaccinations rising and more people returning to normal life, Clubhouse has been hit particularly hard. Daily downloads of the app have plunged more than 90% since a peak in June, while daily average users are down almost 80% since February, Apptopia data indicated. Insider interviews with creators, advertisers, VCs, and others in the tech industry show a platform struggling to build an audience and keep it. Moneymaking opportunities are also slim, which makes the app a tough sell for creators and users as there are many other options online and off.

Counterfeit capitalism

By shm • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Matt Stoller called this funding mechanism Counterfeit Capitalism in the context of WeWork, I think it applies here as well.

Apart from the mechanics of the funding, didnâ(TM)t they think even for one minute that their product would be just a feature for the big guys?

Forget something?

By systemd-anonymousd • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

How is it possible for someone to write so much and yet forget to share most basic details? Like, for example, what the fuck this app even is, what it claims to solve, and what the user experience is like.

It doesn't matter if gen-z has no idea what it is.

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 3, Informative • Thread

Never heard of it. And from talking to my 16 yo stepson he's never heard of it or the "celebrities" the summary mentions. Neither has any of my adopted siblings between the ages of 12 and 16. It's irrelevant.

Clubhouse was OK, then it sucked

By TheSync • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

At first, Clubhouse was an interesting place to hear knowledgable people talk about interesting topics.

Then as more people came on, it became a useless place where highly uninformed people were running channels full of incorrect or useless information. Even the channel titles decayed in quality over time from "How to scale your system backend" to "Look at my hot, plump [back end]".

Clubhouse's big flaw was lack of a reputation/review/quality system of some kind, especially for people running channels.

Twitter spaces get around that because you are already following competent and informative people for Tweets, so when they spawn a space, you know the quality of the moderator.

Clubhouse also was horrible in terms of accessibility for the blind.

Re:Forget something?

By bill_mcgonigle • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

What do you think this is, a printed magazine?

China Suspends Tencent From Updating Existing Apps or Launching New Apps

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China has suspended Tencent Holdings from updating its existing apps or launching any new apps as part of a "temporary administrative guidance" against the tech giant, Chinese media outlets including Shanghai-based reported. From a report: According to the report, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology has told app stores and platforms to implement the order against Tencent apps from Wednesday in a harsh administrative punishment against the tech giant, which runs dozens of apps including the super app WeChat that has 1.2 billion users. Tencent said in a statement that it is cooperating with the authorities on inspecting its apps, indirectly confirming the report.

There are more than 70 apps published by Tencent that are active and there are more than 100 games published by Tencent Mobile Games, according to app tracking firm Qimai. It is not known how long the suspension will last and the Chinese ministry has not published any information about the ban. "We are continuously working to enhance user protection features within our apps, and also have regular cooperation with relevant government agencies to ensure regulatory compliance. Our apps remain functional and available for download," Tencent said in its statement.

And people wonder why Tencent invests.

By splutty • Score: 3 • Thread

So here you see the real reason that Tencent invests in a ton of non-Chinese companies. Because the writing on the wall has always been that they'll be smacked down by the Chinese government, and at least with a spread out portfolio, that won't mean the immediate end of the company.

And for those going on about Chinese Spaiwarez in all the companies Tencent invested in... *sigh*

What next

By locater16 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
We've got China bingo folks! Video games, "big tech", and celebrities are already ticked off boxes. But what comes next? Are the banks all going to be seized, are property developers going to have "commercial commissars" placed on their boards? Or could we be in for a surprise with Mr. Pooh swinging at something completely out of left field? Stay tuned to find out!

Party vs Tech

By Dutch Gun • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

China's government appears to be targeting their own tech companies. If you look at some of the recent laws or rulings passed, like stricter interpretation of labor laws, increased consumer privacy, restrictions on videogames, etc, It has the surface appearance of protecting consumers or looking out for their welfare (in kind of a big brother way). But another way of looking at it may be the Chinese government pushing back against the increasing power and influence of their emerging high-tech industries.

Long term, maybe capitalism and totalitarian regimes simply won't be compatible. It's been a somewhat surprising match-up so far, but Xi seems determined to keep tightening his grip on society, and I guess it's now starting to show some cracks. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Re:And people wonder why Tencent invests.

By Crashmarik • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Lets See Evergrande ring a bell?
Jack Ma disappearing for months to have a chat with the party?
Hell even Fang Bing got told she retroactively owed more money than she earned in taxes and was afforded to tell the country how much she loves the party.
Lets not talk about ARM and how the CCP said sure the citizen we forced on you to do business in the country can steal the company.

Having a way to get out of dodge, is just smart business when you operate in China.

Re:What next

By chadenright • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

Tennis player accuses party official of rape, disappears for three weeks. Reappears in China, assures people "all is well" after news about her is suppressed in China.

China is evil. Free Hong Kong, may all evil be vanquished.

Congress Decimates 911's Digital Upgrade

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Public safety officials fear the nation's 911 centers will continue to languish in the analog era , after Democrats slashed proposed funding for a digital makeover in their social spending bill. From a report: The potentially life-saving ability for people to send texts, pictures or videos to 911 centers, and for centers to seamlessly share data with each other, remains out of reach for many of the country's 6,000 centers. The House Energy & Commerce Committee advanced a proposal that would have spent $10 billion on next-generation 911 centers in September, but that funding was reduced to $470 million for deployment in the final House version of the Build Back Better Act.

A cost report to Congress on next-generation 911 from 2018 estimated it would take about $12 billion to implement the networks nationwide, though advocates say $15 billion might be needed. "To say I'm disappointed is to put it mildly," Brian Fontes, CEO of NENA: The 911 Association, told Axios. "It's extraordinarily unfortunate." Next-generation 911 would allow centers to accept multimedia from those in need and let centers share data among themselves easily to ensure the best response.

Large bills are because only a few bills pass

By FeelGood314 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
We are now almost ungovernable. Our liberal media is woke (woke in the sense that in all news they will tell you how to interpret the data and that you must do so in the way that favours the perceived weaker side). So the liberal media alienates people and creates Fox news and Fox news is now too moderate for even the right. So most democracies have lost a center that is a majority because we no longer have a common news source or a common set of facts to work with. It didn't matter if some of the news before was wrong or low quality as long as it was common. But now we have the right where most facts are make believe but are willing to discuss issues and the left that might know the facts a bit better but will label you racist, sexist or some other label if you ever interpret the data in the way that doesn't align with their self-righteous goals. So now every country has a minority government or some sort of split government where every member of parliament (or the house of congress in the USA) needs to be personally bribed to pass a bill because reasoned discussion is impossible. The lack of party discipline and the subsequent horse trading means only a few bills pass so parties need to get everything into those bills. It's not just the USA, look a Sweden's budget today.

Re:And how is this a bad thing?

By AuMatar • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

I've yet to see that in any private company either. If anything they're worse- there's just an utter lack of transparency and accountability in the private world. That's not a reason to not do it, its a reason to be realistic about what it will actually cost, and assume there will be overruns and base your cost/benefit analysis on that.

after Democrats slashed proposed funding

By Lost Penguin • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Hmmm, It seems subby is not being honest. /subby might be a republican ignoring that republicans asked for the cut, bot democrats.

Multimedia is not where I'd start

By Beryllium Sphere(tm) • Score: 3 • Thread

Texting is great for the disabled and should be a priority.

Where I live, my phone's GPS information does not get uploaded to the 911 center. That's mission-critical information that should not have to rely on a human caller getting something right under stress.

I see uses for multimedia but I would need convincing it's not a luxury.

Re:Fascist anti-democrats

By zeeky boogy doog • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
It just blows my mind that after twenty years of unbroken bad faith by the GQP, that anyone, anywhere, in the Democratic party would actually, genuinely, believe that it's possible to "negotiate for their support."

Their own former majority leader, John Boehner, referred to what's now the Trumpist faction (back when they called themselves the Teabaggers) as "legislative terrorists." They have no interest at all in governing. Their only objective is to bluescreen the United States so that they can take advantage of the chaos. And if anyone hasn't noticed, that faction has completely taken over the entire party.

The Head of Instagram Agrees To Testify as Congress Probes the App's Effects on Young People

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Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram, has agreed for the first time to testify before Congress, as bipartisan anger mounts over harms to young people from the app. From a report: Mr. Mosseri is expected to appear before a Senate panel during the week of Dec. 6 as part of a series of hearings on protecting children online, said Senator Richard Blumenthal, who will lead the hearing. Mr. Mosseri's appearance follows hearings this year with Antigone Davis, the global head of safety for Meta, the parent company of Instagram and Facebook, and with Frances Haugen, a former employee turned whistle-blower. Ms. Haugen's revelations about the social networking company, particularly those about Facebook and Instagram's research into its effects on some teenagers and young girls, have spurred criticism, inquiries from politicians and investigations from regulators.

In September, Ms. Davis told Congress that the company disputed the premise that Instagram was harmful for teenagers and noted that the leaked research did not have causal data. But after Ms. Haugen's testimony last month, Mr. Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat, wrote a letter to Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Meta, suggesting that his company had "provided false or inaccurate testimony to me regarding attempts to internally conceal its research." Mr. Blumenthal asked that Mr. Zuckerberg or Mr. Mosseri testify in front of the consumer protection subcommittee of the Senate's Commerce Committee to set the record straight.

Make Social Media Adult Only: Age Restrict it...

By cayenne8 • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
This would really be a simple cure all for a lot of ills.

If no one under the age or 18 or 21yrs could get on (legally) would solve:

1. Companies gathering data on minors.

2. Teens and younger being bullied online

3. Teens and younger self esteem issues (apparently really bad with teen girls).

4. Teens not learning real, meatspace in live social skills...interacting in person, etc.

5. Young people, by virtue of interacting in person, developing long, long term friendships that are lasting and real with people you can depend on to be there when you need, etc.

And this could help solve itself...once you make it difficult for them to get on...that means less of them there, which reenforces itself in that they won't want to get on there where most people are all just boring old adults, etc.

We restrict things that are best left to adults (not that we all do that great with them) like alcohol and weed, etc.

Will gating it off work 100%? doesn't with booze either, but it does hinder and make it more difficult.

Yer doin it wrong, Zuck -

By swell • Score: 3 • Thread

Sure, you profit by knowing every pathetic detail of the lives of socially awkward people who resort to 'social' media because of their fear of real human interactions. You have power over those people and can lead them anywhere you please. But what about those pesky congresspeople? Your only power over them is to pay for their re-election but they don't really need you for that, do they?

Learn from history, Zuck. There was once another person who had information about everyone and who used that information not for profit, but for power. He was the most feared man in America. His name was J. Edgar Hoover and he created and ran the FBI. Here's an excerpt from his Wiki:

"Later in life and after his death, Hoover became a controversial figure as evidence of his secretive abuses of power began to surface. He was found to have exceeded the jurisdiction of the FBI,[2] and to have used the FBI to harass political dissenters and activists, to amass secret files on political leaders,[3] and to collect evidence using illegal methods.[4] Hoover consequently amassed a great deal of power and was in a position to intimidate and threaten others, including multiple sitting presidents of the United States.[5]"

This is the kind of information that gets you off the hook with Congress, Zuck. Sign those suckers up for your next 'social' network scam and learn about their secret perversions and insider trades. And while you're at it, throw me a few million for the good advice.

Re:Make Social Media Adult Only: Age Restrict it..

By RightSaidFred99 • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Another bullshit take. Funny how you cherry-pick all the ills of social media and ignore all the benefits (most of which are a direct corollary to your ills list).

But by all means, sure, it sounds brilliant to socially isolate people into their own little meatspace groups - that works out great for everyone ( know of).

social media

By backslashdot • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Are social media and violent video games responsible for all the problems in the world? Can someone explain how slavery was an acceptable and widespread cultural practice worldwide before either of the video games and social media existed? I mean, people .. many of whom could be considered well-balanced and even capable of empathy to people they could relate to.. thought it was ok to own another human and do whatever you wanted with them .. long before someone riled them up to it on social media. Heck we even had people who thought putting people who did no crime into gas chambers was OK. How did they get the idea for that before violent video games? How did Kristallnacht occur before social media? How did the genocidal riots in Rwanda happen before facebook, twitter or whatsapp existed? How did people get lynched? How did Klan rallies organize before twitter? Blaming human evil on social media is dumb. If anything social media has reduced these occurring because they reveal the perpetrators and also provide some sort of release for idiots.

US Blacklists Chinese Quantum Computing Companies

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The US has placed a dozen Chinese groups involved in quantum computing and other advanced technologies on an export blacklist, saying they pose a risk of gaining access to critical American technologies for the People's Liberation Army. From a report: The move, which makes it almost impossible for US companies to sell technologies to the listed companies, targeted a total of 27 entities, including 12 in China and two affiliated firms in Japan and Singapore. In addition to quantum computing, the list included companies in the semiconductor and aerospace industries. Eight of the Chinese groups were specifically targeted to prevent them from accessing sensitive quantum-related technology, the US commerce department said, arguing they could help the PLA improve counter-stealth and counter-submarine applications and facilitate efforts to break US encryption.

The actions mark the latest effort by the Biden administration to make it more difficult for China to secure cutting-edge technologies with military applications. Last month, US intelligence officials warned American companies about Chinese efforts to access technology in areas including quantum computing and artificial intelligence. "This is a sensible move and an important reminder of the scope and scale of China's efforts to achieve technological breakthroughs that erode US national security," said Martijn Rasser, a former CIA official who heads the technology and national security programme at the Center for a New American Security think-tank. In addition to the Chinese groups targeted, Washington put 13 Pakistani firms on the "entity list" for activities related to nuclear and ballistic missile programmes. It added the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology to a "military end-user" list that makes it more difficult to sell technology with military applications.

Re:Quantum Radar

By Rosco P. Coltrane • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

The US doesn't want China to beat them, period.

The problem is, China is about to overtake the US on just about every technological fronts on its own merits nowadays. This whole "we don't want China to copy our tech" thing is a strawman: it's just the US trying to cling on to the few technological advantages they still possess a bit longer.


By Dutch Gun • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

China has been essentially doing that for many years, blocking or limiting access to their markets by many foreign companies. You apparently have no idea how protectionist the Chinese economy is, or are conveniently ignoring that fact. For example, unlike in the US, a foreign-owned videogame company can't do business in China without distribution through a Chinese-owned publisher. Hollywood fights for a limited number of movies that are allowed to show each year. Etc, etc...


By Jack9 • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

> But I think the time has come for chinese to start blacklisting US companies...

The CCP make demands that the companies make everything to work with China's infrastructure or allow unfettered access.
No need for a blacklist when you can openly intrude and blackmail.


By Richard_at_work • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Blocking access to markets isnt the same as blocking access to exported goods - the US also blocks access to markets (transport for example, finance, military contracts etc) and its perfectly valid to do.

This is the equivalent of China saying that US companies cannot buy its rare earth mineral exports because of links to the US military (ie Intel chips are used in the DoD desktop computers etc) - can't imagine that causing any sort of an uproar....

Everyone is protectionist, the US is just using it in instances like these to conduct an economic war with the Chinese in an effort to try and stay top dog in the world.

QRNGs and NV diamonds?

By sonoronos • Score: 3 • Thread

Quantum Teleportation is just Bells Inequality theoretical apprati, Superdense Coding is kind of pointless as a product, QKD is hobbled by realities of detector physics. Quantum computers are basically just cryogenic plumbing and transimpedance amplifiers, nothing special. That only leaves QRNGs and NV diamond sensors?

Any other quantum products that might actually be covered under such a blacklist?

Next Windows 11 Update Brings Back Clippy

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An anonymous reader shares a report: We're nearly two months out from the public release of Windows 11, and Microsoft is still slowly updating bits and pieces of the operating system that weren't quite ready in early October. Microsoft announced redesigned emoji back in July, and the next Windows update (version 22000.348, if you're tracking this sort of thing) adds those emoji to Windows 11. The new emoji remove the bold, black outlines from the Windows 10-era designs and change the colors and shapes of a few to make them match up better with Apple's, Google's, and Samsung's glyphs -- compare the new design for Spiral Shell to the old one, for an example. There are also a few cute Microsoft-specific touches, like a Clippy design for the paperclip emoji, though Ninja Cat appears to have been removed entirely.


By fahrbot-bot • Score: 3 • Thread

An OS must be really important when one of the most exciting things about it is the included emoji set.

Sadly, I'll never know as all my Windows 10 systems are too old to meet the Windows 11 "requirements". When Win10 support expires, I'll just finally make the switch to using my Linux systems full time.


By TWX • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

I do kind of understand why the marketing faction pushed for a change, but that's mostly because for 99.9% of users, there's no real improvements to Microsoft Office after say, Office 2000. The last major change of relevance was some version in the noughties that greatly expanded the size that Excel sheets could be, which helped for those using it for scientific data analysis where there could be thousands of datapoints per second collected.

Trouble is that once enough people have a version of Office that does what they need, they now no longer have any incentive to upgrade. Microsoft's profits are based on selling the same software to the same users again and again, and if there's no changes under the hood, then changing the UI to look different might convince some users that they need to upgrade even when they don't.


By squiggleslash • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

Honestly though, they could have rolled out the ribbon as an optional feature, even made it the default, and it would have achieved that marketing goal. Where things went badly wrong was Microsoft insisting on making it required.

I regret the fact the one time I bought Office it was after that change. Pretty much the only way Microsoft could get me to spend money on Office again would be if they undid it (together with made a full featured native - Electron is fine - GNU/Linux version.) I rarely use Office because of the change - I edit in LO, and copy it to Word if a Word version is needed. I can't imagine they've benefited much in implementing it.

Re:What. The. Fuck.

By nightflameauto • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

Or, this place is no longer populated by nerds. Or anger is a righteous motivator.

His Spirit Never Died

By organgtool • Score: 3 • Thread
Every time I'm forced to log in to a Windows computer, I'm assaulted by a barrage of "helpful suggestions" to use Edge as my default browser, try out OneDrive, take this Sharepoint tutorial, etc. The animated paperclip may have been removed for a while but his spirit of useless and annoying suggestions seems to have lived on.

In addition to all of those annoying suggestions, Windows is constantly popping notifications for things that it did in the background that no one cares about. It's like an insecure child that is constantly seeking your approval by giving you an exaggerated list of all of the things it's done in the hopes that maybe you'll finally love it.

With all of these suggestions and notifications constantly distracting the user, I don't understand how anyone using Windows ever accomplishes any actual work.

A Three-Party Alliance is Set To Govern Germany

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Three German parties have reached a deal to form a new government that will end the era of longtime Chancellor Angela Merkel, according to Olaf Scholz, who is poised to replace her. From a report: Scholz, of the center-left Social Democrats, said he expects that members of the parties will give their blessing to the deal in the next 10 days. At a news conference, Scholz and other leaders gave some indications of how the coalition would govern. Among the first measures agreed: compulsory vaccinations in places where particularly vulnerable people are cared for, with the option of expanding that rule. That comes as Germany is seeing a surge in cases, and the political transition has somewhat hampered the country's response. Scholz also stressed the importance of a sovereign Europe, friendship with France and partnership with the United States as key cornerstones of the government's foreign policy -- continuing a long post-war tradition. The new government will not seek "the lowest common denominator, but the politics of big impacts," Scholz promised. Robert Habeck, co-leader of the environmentalist Green party, meanwhile, said measures planned by the government would put Germany on a path to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.

Re:How Coincidental

By AvitarX • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

So basically the typical democrat in Congress?

Re:How Coincidental

By Anonymous Coward • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

left (the squad), center (democrats and very, very, very few republicans), and right (pretty much all republi... trumpsters)

Re:Lockdwns rejected

By fazig • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
It's not that unusual in Germany though.
Helmut Kohl was in office for 16 years. Konrad Adenauer was in office for 14 years, all members of the CDU, and with no unconventional coalitions following them.

Arguably one of the worst administration Germany had in recent history was under Gerhard Schröder (Social Democrats SPD), which made the decision to phase out nuclear power and paved the path to make Germany's energy sector dependent on natural gas primarily supplied by Russia.
After leaving office, Schröder soon also became chairman of the Russian oil company Rosneft.
Not fishy at all. No siree!
At least that administration didn't lead us into the invasion of Iraq.

Re:How Coincidental

By kunwon1 • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread
This is pretty accurate
The DNC is the conservative party, the GOP is the fascist party, the progressives are just looking for the part of the swimming pool with the least urine in it

Oh, and they plan trans recognition

By Dirk Becher • Score: 3 • Thread

which is just another way of saying reality is to be disowned for hardship reasons.

Virtual Real Estate Plot Sells for Record $2.4 Million

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A patch of virtual real estate in the online world Decentraland sold for a record $2.4 million worth of cryptocurrency, the buyer crypto investor and Decentraland said on Tuesday. From a report: Decentraland is an online environment -- also called a "metaverse" -- where users can buy land, visit buildings, walk around and meet people as avatars. Such environments have grown in popularity this year, as the pandemic caused people to spend more time online. read more Interest surged last month when Facebook changed its name to Meta to reflect its focus on developing virtual reality products for the metaverse. Decentraland is a specific type of metaverse that uses blockchain. Land and other items in Decentraland are sold in the form of non-fungible tokens (NFTs), a kind of crypto asset. Crypto enthusiasts buy land there as a speculative investment, using Decentraland's cryptocurrency, MANA. A subsidiary of, called the Metaverse Group, bought a patch of real estate for 618,000 MANA on Monday, which was around $3.27 million at the time of this Slashdot post, a Decentraland spokesman and a statement by said.

Fake transaction with fake currency for fake land

By tphb • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

Can we please have a end to the "$1Zillion NFT purchase using StupidCoin" stories. There's no liquidity in whatever the heck is "MANA", so there's no real value.

Here's an ICO for "IdiotCoin", 1 of 10 quadrillion. Key: #000001. I'll buy it from myself for $1. There, now I'm a multi-quadrillionaire. Now I'll use 1 IdiotCoin to purchase virtual land on a virtual server. Wow, this is making me rich!

Selling Virtual Bridges!

By BeerFartMoron • Score: 5, Funny • Thread
For those interested, I will be selling virtual bridges to connect these digital islands for the next three hours only. By owning a bridge in the metaverse you will be able to charge a toll to any avatars hopping from island to island. Don't miss this once in a lifetime opportunity to become metaverse rich overnight! Don't delay. BUY NOW!

its a dang government monopoly

By OrangeTide • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Yet when I try to establish my own country and make my own shit coin, someone always tries to stop me. And if I make wooden nickels that aren't backed by a national bank and standing army, people don't take it seriously and it quickly falls into disuse (if the local government doesn't immediately shut it down). It's almost like there is more to a fiat currency than the paper that it is printed on.

One thing that crypto doesn't solve is a government's desire for control and exclusivity. If they aren't looped into every transaction between individuals, you can count on a government to take steps remedy that situation.

Re:Fake transaction with fake currency for fake la

By timeOday • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
Are you talking about trading crypto for US currency, or trading crypto for more crypto to obscure its ownership?

All This Has Happened Before

By cstacy • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread

From the video on their web page, this MMO looks like a low-quality version of Second Life. Where you could do all the things they advertise for this one.

Including of course, buy and selling virtual land.

In what way is all this not just a bad re-run of Second Life?

(Answer: Instead of $US it's BTC.)

It's also fascinating to me that nobody ever mentions Second Life in the metaverse-hype press?

It's not like Ready Player One. It's like Battlestar Galactica: All this has happened before, and it will happen again.

Survey Shows Europeans Not Done Quitting Jobs

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Quit a day job to do TikTok full-time? Why not, say some Europeans. From a report: About one in 10 are considering leaving their main job in the next six months and instead earning money from social media, e-commerce or trading platforms, according to a Morgan Stanley poll of 12,500 people. "The received wisdom is that as Covid subsides, and with modest extra flexibility from employers, the majority of people will re-embrace their prior routines," a team of Morgan Stanley economists and equity analysts wrote in a note. "Our data suggest otherwise." With labor shortages already weighing on Europe's economic rebound, wage inflation will persist for longer if the Great Resignation -- the post-pandemic trend of people leaving the workforce -- carries on, the bank said. "It reveals a far greater potential risk of structurally higher wages," Morgan Stanley wrote.

I did it

By Fons_de_spons • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
I am in the EU and quit my high profile tech job out of frustration with the way employees are treated. Salary was good, but there seems to be a sport to make deadlines unrealistic, in combination with too high expectations and support is zero. Shut up do your job. If you managed to do it right because of your hard work and commitment, your reward is a new job with higher requirements and tighter deadline. If you fail, you get a one way plane ticket to solve the bloody thing with a speech from the boss of how important this contract is and that we must deliver. I've had it. Now am a math teacher in highschool. I teach to classes with a language focused curriculum. Most generally hate math, but the kids are great and they do their best. One girl today mentioned she liked algebra after I gave her a compliment about the way she solved her excercises.

I still get requests for job interviews from tech firms. I do not reply. One company sent a pushy reminder that I did not respond and that they really need me. It ended with the CEO demanding to know why I was not interested. Know... your... place...

I loved my previous job, but work culture made me leave. I am maybe one of the few that took action, but a lot are seriously thinking about it.

Re:Bubble bubble toil and trouble

By jellomizer • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

This is a result of the Cheap Labor bubble popping.

We have a recession, I would any one within the past 50 years. Buts lets go with the 2008 recession

Company layoffs workers due to poor business because of the recession.
A rise in unemployment, people need money to do jobs, so they apply for jobs they are over qualified for, because they need the money.
Companies that were able to weather the recession get highly skilled employees, for a lower skilled job, so they get really good workers for less.
The company knows the employee is higher skilled, so they often give them jobs to match their skill, but keep them at their lower salary position.
Because other companies are doing this, that means the employee with their skill level cannot find an other job which they can promote up, because everyone else in their skill level is in the same boat.
So that position becomes inflated with its skill requirements, but the employee price remains low.
Employees are not being paid what they are worth, so they cut back on spending, which creates an other recession.

However when the pandemic hit, a lot of these companies were so focused on cost savings, that they didn't have the money to hold onto their employees during the hard times, so they had let them go, in large numbers. Now that business came back, they just can't bring back most of the people they had let go, because many had found an other job, or decided to go to school, or change careers. So now they either have to hire people with lower than what they are use to in skill sets, or pay more for the jobs, because the High Skilled Low Cost employee bubble had popped. Now that these companies are paying a lot more for these jobs, employees at other companies are leaving their old jobs to a new higher paid one, or trying to make it on their own.

Re:I did it

By Opportunist • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

My grandfather worked for the same company from the time he was an apprentice there to his retirement. He worked hard, and he liked working. Not because there was any kind of "special" relationship or even a sense of equality between bosses and workers, his boss was always "Herr Direktor" to him and he was always "Mr. Hislastname" to his boss.

But his boss actually did care, at least least he was good at faking it. He knew his workers. Which wasn't that big an investment in brainpower, they didn't change a lot. He knew about their family situation and he always went through the factory hall and talked to the people. Yes, there was a HUGE level difference between them in terms of status and position, and you did not question that, but at the same time the people working there felt valued and taken serious as humans, my grandfather told me he never felt like his boss considered him replaceable, he was part of the "worker family".

Today, companies try to level the "status" field, you talk informally to your boss, but in the end you feel like he doesn't give a fuck about you. You don't get to see them and frankly, I have a hunch that my boss-boss (i.e. the person two hierarchy level above me) doesn't even know I exist.

Not that I mind, because I invest as much emotion into this company as he probably invests in me. I have a contract with them. I uphold my side as long as they uphold theirs. But of course, you can't expect loyalty from your staff if you treat them like they're replaceable assets.

With an growing question mark on that "asset".

To translate...

By chill • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

"It reveals a far greater potential risk of structurally higher wages," Morgan Stanley wrote.

To me that reads "oh, shit. This whole paying people more money thing isn't just a phase and is here to stay!"

Re:More likely

By mobby_6kl • Score: 4, Informative • Thread

...or so employers hope.

Regardless of that, this is what is likely to happen. All the social media work is attractive on the surface since you theoretically can make a living making a few videos a week or streaming yourself play a game but a) it's actually work and b) the people you see making millions on this are the 0.1%.

A few people share what they make on youtube, and for example Dave of EEVBlog, had about 400k subscribers and pulled about 40k/yr. Not terrible for making videos at home of course, but it took him like 7 years to get there and he can earning way more than that as an electrical engineer. And starting out you have no idea if 7 years down the road you'll even make this.

Unless you're a hot chick who's into games, cars or other areas dominated by horny dudes that is, then it's a bit easier apparently.

Japan To Implement Bank-deposit-backed Digital Currency in 2022

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A new digital currency backed by bank deposits is set for a test run in Japan as early as this year, an effort that will involve the nation's top banks and about 70 other companies. From a report: The test run will focus on the digital currency's feasibility for business transactions, such as large payments between companies. The group aims to bring the currency into circulation as soon as the latter half of 2022. The Digital Currency Forum announced the trial on Wednesday. The Forum includes MUFG Bank, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp., Mizuho Bank, Japan Post Bank and the Nippon Telegraph and Telephone group. East Japan Railway, which operates Tokyo's busy Yamanote Line, top trading house Mitsubishi Corp., Kansai Electric Power and retail giant Seven & i Holdings are also involved. Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange service provider Decurret, a subsidiary of Internet Initiative Japan, and others will lead the trial.

It's a trap

By nagora • Score: 3 • Thread

The BoJ has spent 20+ years failing to sort out the Japanese economy. They want to try negative interest rates on normal savings (i.e., they want to tax their customers), but cash has an interest of zero percent, so if they go negative then normal savers will just take their money out to get a better rate. "deposti-backed" digital currency can't be taken out, so the banks can charge you for holding it.

Fuck them. Put the interest rates up and let the shitty zombie banks go bust like they should have done 10 years ago.

A Third of All Dark Web Domains Are Now V3 Onion Sites

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Record: Throughout 2020 and 2021, the Tor anonymity network has gone through a major change as the Tor software team has released a new version of its software that updated how .onion domains look and work. More specifically, the Tor Project has done away with 16-character-long .onion domains, also known as v2 addresses, and replaced them with 56-character-long domains, known as v3. The move, driven by a need to improve the Tor network's privacy, security, and resilience to deanonymization attacks, was announced years in advance, and the entire process took more than a year to complete.

But despite the Tor team's best efforts to announce the move in advance, new numbers compiled and released by dark web monitoring company DarkOwl show that the Tor network is still made up in large part of servers running older v2 domains. "In the last six weeks, DarkOwl's Vision platform has observed an average of 104,095 active .onion services across both address schemes of which: 62% are v2 addresses and 38% are v3 addresses," the company said last week. DarkOwl says it detected a spike in new v3 domains in July 2021, which coincided with the Tor team adding a fullscreen warning before accessing v2 domains in preparation for the browser's v11 release this fall. This resulted in more than 2,900 v3 domains being registered in the last two weeks of July alone. However, as the Tor team noted in its own v2-to-v3 analysis in September, the number of v3 domains is trending up.
The report adds that v2 sites are expected to go extinct in the coming year. "The reason is that as most Tor node operators will update their servers to versions that will not support v2 domains, there will be no Tor relays capable of routing the traffic to these old-gen domains," report The Record.

Mapping old to new

By PetiePooo • Score: 4, Interesting • Thread
Will there be a mapping service that maps the obsolete v2 domains to their new v3 domains, or does that defeat the purpose?

Governments don't want v3...

By yababom • Score: 3, Interesting • Thread

If I were a paranoid geek, I might conclude that that up to 62% of tor servers are actually run by governments that are happy with the current (traceable) security provided by v2 addresses...


By wiggles • Score: 3 • Thread

Is there anything on there besides illegal materials? What exactly is the point of this in non-authoritarian countries?


By Kokuyo • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

"Authoritarian" is a term that very much lies in the eye of the beholder ;).

"104,095 active .onion services..."

By swell • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread

More are needed. If there were a million or a billion .onion services it might be more difficult to track individual users. As it stands, Big Brother, whether government or corporate, can somewhat easily observe user activities.

Freedom loving citizens of the world should all create .onion services if for no other reason than to help protect those who desperately need a private place to store and share information. Journalists and whistleblowers, for example, are subject to torture and death worldwide.

Criminal uses of .onion are less of a concern. They deal in the real world of money, drugs, sex trade, etc and while they may do business on the dark web, they can be caught by the trail of their physical real world activities.

Look around you; is there any place you can see where you can have privacy? Your home? Your Facebook page? Your cell phone? Any place where you and I can have a private chat where nobody can intrude? And what if we were Chinese or Turkish citizens? It is a small miracle that there can be a private place on the internet- let's encourage that.

US To Require Vaccines For All Border Crossers In January

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President Joe Biden will require essential, nonresident travelers crossing U.S. land borders, such as truck drivers, government and emergency response officials, to be fully vaccinated beginning on Jan. 22, the administration planned to announce Tuesday. The Associated Press reports: A senior administration official said the requirement, which the White House previewed in October, brings the rules for essential travelers in line with those that took effect earlier this month for leisure travelers, when the U.S. reopened its borders to fully vaccinated individuals. Essential travelers entering by ferry will also be required to be fully vaccinated by the same date, the official said. The rules pertain to non-U.S. nationals. American citizens and permanent residents may still enter the U.S. regardless of their vaccination status, but face additional testing hurdles because officials believe they more easily contract and spread COVID-19 and in order to encourage them to get a shot. [...] About 47 million adults in the U.S. remain unvaccinated, according to figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Re:for the *

By Ed Tice • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
This should not have been moderated troll and I hope that meta-moderation does a better job of controlling mod points in the future.

The parent comment is clearly flamebait/troll and also poorly moderated.

There is no group of any meaningful size who wishes death upon those who disagree with them and vaccine proponents overwhelmingly do not wish death on anybody which is why they want people to get vaccinated!

Those who don't get vaccinated are not just harming themselves but passively harming others by extending the pandemic. One can argue about the morality of not getting vaccinated but not the intelligence.

Those who spread anti-vaxx propaganda are actively harming others. Nobody wants to see them dead. What is wanted is for those people to stop causing harm but renouncing anti-vaxx and making amends by promoting the vaccine. That's very reasonable.

Re: for the *

By Ed Tice • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread
The government is flying them around the country because it's hard to find something to do with them. There is no covering-up of the number of illegal entries. The data is right on the CBP website.

Now unvaccinated immigrants might be a covid issue. But no more than unvaccinated natives. And well there are way more unvaccinated natives than the total number of immigrants that come here over the course of years.

Your argument fails all logic. If unvaccinated immigrants are an issue, quarantine and vaccinate them. But that doesn't change anything else.

Re:for the *

By Ed Tice • Score: 5, Interesting • Thread
Florida has per capita death rate of 285/100k. That's not middle of the pack, that's pretty near the top. I live here in Florida so I can comment. I can't say anything about Texas. Here in FL we should be near the bottom. We have a very high population of vulnerable senior citizens but they took the pandemic very seriously, followed CDD guidelines for the most part, and got vaccinated. Right now we have a very low coronavirus case load because those who were going to die from their first infection have pretty much done so. The people dying here in FL right now are the relatively young and unvaccinated. The elderly are getting back to normal life. That's a shame.


By SuperDre • Score: 3 • Thread
The pharmaceutical companies lobbyists have done their work excellent. Getting a placebo vaccin that hardly works to be mandatory. Those companies are smiling their asses off, billions of dollars profit for some crap, so no need to actually provide a real cure, that won't make them much profit at all, just keep that behind locked doors until the need for vaccine declines.. why cure if you can make more money on treatment, that's how that business actually works.

Re: for the *

By Linux Torvalds • Score: 4, Insightful • Thread

Yeah, he should have just told the agents to slam the immigrants' heads into a police car door frame, like your Orange God did. GFY, hypocrite.

Watch NASA Crash a Spacecraft Into An Asteroid

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If all goes as planned, a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carrying the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) will launch early Wednesday morning "to test whether slamming a spacecraft into an asteroid can nudge it into a different trajectory," reports The New York Times. "Results from the test, if successful, will come in handy if NASA and other space agencies ever need to deflect an asteroid to save Earth and avert a catastrophic impact." From the report: The DART spacecraft is scheduled to lift off atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket on Wednesday at 1:20 a.m. Eastern time (or 10:20 p.m. local time) from the Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. NASA plans to host a livestream of the launch on its YouTube channel starting at 12:30 a.m. on Wednesday. If bad weather around the Vandenberg launch site prompts a delay, the next opportunity for liftoff would be about 24 hours later.

After launching to space, the spacecraft will make nearly one full orbit around the sun before it crosses paths with Dimorphos, a football-field-size asteroid that closely orbits a bigger asteroid, called Didymos, every 11 hours and 55 minutes. Astronomers call those two asteroids a binary system, where one is a mini-moon to the other. Together, the two asteroids make one full orbit around the sun every two years. Dimorphos poses no threat to Earth, and the mission is essentially target practice. DART's impact will happen in late September or early October next year, when the binary asteroids are at their closest point to Earth, roughly 6.8 million miles away.

Four hours before impact, the DART spacecraft, formally called a kinetic impactor, will autonomously steer itself straight toward Dimorphos for a head-on collision at 15,000 miles per hour. An onboard camera will capture and send back photos to Earth in real time until 20 seconds before impact. A tiny satellite from the Italian Space Agency, deployed 10 days before the impact, will come as close as 34 miles from the asteroid to snap images every six seconds in the moments before and after DART's impact.

Incorrect headline

By hackertourist • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

The mission launches today, but it won't be crashing into any asteroids until late September 2022.

Re:Is anybody else worried...

By jimtheowl • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
No, this is not something that you should be worried about. The moonlet that will be impacted (Dimorphos) will remain in orbit around Didymos only changed enough so that it can be measured. They are both quite small and have little influence over everything else out there.

It is not like everything is in a stable orbit and we are not supposed to touch anything. Something will eventually come this way, but not because we caused it.

We are better off being ready.

Re:Is anybody else worried...

By hackertourist • Score: 5, Informative • Thread

Not in 50 years. Asteroids are small enough that even if two asteroids come within 1 meter of each other, the change in their orbits would be tiny. It'll take a long time (as in, add a few zeroes to that '50 years') for that to have enough of a cumulative effect to make a collision with Earth measurably more likely.
Also, because they're altering the orbit of Didymos' moon only, the CoG of the asteroid+moon doesn't change. You'd have to make a very close pass (within a few km) to notice a difference. Dimorphos' orbital speed will be reduced by something on the order of 1 mm/s.
There are some unknowns here: we haven't found all asteroids large enough to pose a threat. But we can be certain there's no threat from this collision for a long enough time that asteroid redirection will be routine by the time it could become a problem.

[insert HHGTG Space is Big quote here]

Re: Is anybody else worried...

By VaccinesCauseAdults • Score: 5, Informative • Thread
Mostly correct, although the velocity and momentum of the asteroid/moon centre of mass WILL change, due to the impulse from the collision by the impactor probe.

Re:Best of luck to them

By Calinous • Score: 5, Insightful • Thread

While the orbital physics of this are well understood (after all, we've landed on the Moon and returned successfully several times), there are still a few questions:
-how well can we target that asteroid
-we have made very precise calculations on the results. However, how much our calculations will fit to real life results?
-there are a number of unquantifiable issues:
- with a lateral impact, how much of the energy impacted will go towards _moving_ the asteroid versus just adding more rotation
- with any kind impact, what is the result of the thrown mass? (the asteroid has basically zero gravity, any debris thrown from a 15 km/s collision will escape the asteroids)
- how will the two asteroids system move after the impact (also, compared to NASA's calculations)? Will the energy impacted affect the movement of one satellite, both of them, what is the resulted change in movement in their orbit around each other and around the sun
-will any of them get angry and want revenge?

In the end, the results might make us prepare different experiments:
-how much could we move an asteroid using a small ion drive?
-how much could we move an asteroid by stopping its rotation movement and changing its albedo? (i.e. painted in red with "Coca Cola" written on its side) - that's solar pressure at work over some years
-also related to moving asteroids away from the Earth, how much would we be able to move "precious" asteroids into Earth gravitational field? (one could use an asteroid as protection against solar radiation for a space station, even if actually mining its content or tunneling into it might not be feasible).